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    Colorado Cyclist-maybe It's Me, You Decide

    Let me start this by saying this is not a bash session on anyone, just my experience over the last month and a half at Colorado Cyclist.
    I have dealt with them more or less over the last year or so with pretty good results and I have even recommened them in some of my previos post on here. I have always been pleased and impressed with the customer service I have recieved after my order was placed, the speed in which my order arrived, and the accuracy of my orders after I recieved them. So far so good, right? Maybe, maybe not, you tell me. I work in a enviroment that has me kissing customers butts all day. I get paid strictly on commission, no hourly rate and no salary, just commission. So if I don't sell, my boss doesn't fire me, he just doesn't pay me. Now I don't kiss peoples butt because they are spending money with me I am kissing thier butt because I NEED them to spend money with me or I wouldn't be able to afford this expensive hobby of ours. .....enough of the mubo jumbo on to my dealings the last 2 months or so.
    I purchased a new Blur LT2 from CC online. They called to verify info all checked out. new frame on the way. While I was waiting on the frame I realized that CC offers 25% off on forks with the purchase of a frame, so I called them to see if I could still take advantage of that deal since my frame hasn't even arrived yet. A fellow by the name of Scott answered the phone and I asked him about the fork deal and he said NO followed by 10 seconds of silence so......I said really? How come? He said it has to be done at the time of purchase of the frame. I was bummed especially since it was still very close to the time I purchased the frame but I got over it, rules are rules. I was a little taken back by Scott's curtness, but hey everybody has thier own selling techniques, right? So now the frame arrives and I am trying to decide what parts to build it with. Do I swap the Hecklers parts or do I go new. What the hell, I decide. Let's go with new XTR. Back online with CC so I can pick out my new dream kit. I start to put the kit together and I realize that I can get that 25% off deal on the fork now with a build kit. Its an omen I say in my best Vincent Price voice. Nothing will stop me now from my dream build. As I am picking out all my goodies I realize they only offer easton lo-rize on the web but thier catalogue offers both hi and lo. So I decide to call. Scott answers again, and I start to tell him that I am putting together a build kit on his website and that I noticed that there aren't Easton Hi-Rize handlebars on the web and he stops me right there and says "Sir, if it is not on the web it is not available here". I didn't even get a chance to explain the whole web/catalogue deal. What a buzzkill, here I am all excited that I am about to order this kit and Scott's curtness again kills it. I didn't even know what to say, so I just said okay and hung up. So I go back online to order the kit with the lo-rize, not a big deal really. But his attitude for whatever reason really struck a nerve with me. So I said screw it and bought the kit somewhere else. Paid more for it, but what are you going to do? So now here we are 2 mos later and I decide I want to build some Chris King wheels. I want to do a custom build and some people have recommended CC on here, so I figure what the hell, third times a charm, right? I give them a call and gentleman by the name of Scott answers the phone again. I should have just asked to speak to someone else but I gave Scott a try again. I explain to him what I am trying to do and what I am looking for and I notice that Scott is being even more curt than usual. So finally I ask, Dude am I bothering you or is there something about me you don't like? He says "sir its been a rough week". I say, I can relate. But man you shouldn't convey that to your customers especially one that is looking for your help in spending about 1000.00 with you. He says "please hold". 9 minutes later I get patched to his voice mail. I leave a message and I call customer service. I get a fellow named Brandon on the phone and I could tell by his tone of voice that he was waiting on my phine call to tell me something. I explain to him what happened and he said that he was sorry but that 2 employees were killed by a drunk driver on thier bikes and that everybody was a little raw around the shop this week. i say I am sorry to hear that, which I really was. That would suck to lose 2 fellow employees in that manner at the same time. So I accept that and I ask him what about the 2 times before that? He says "sir do you still want to order the wheels? Finally I just say "Dude your clueless, you don't get it." I tell him to have a good day and I hang up. I drive 30 miles to LBS, order the wheels and move on with life. Now you tell me I am just being a Big pecker with a capital D. Keep in mind I am looking for your opinion on my spin of the story providing my details are true. Should are expectations be lower? or Higher?

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    wow, this is sssoooo long i couldn't even read it.
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    Sheesh, that came out as one big, stream-of-conciousness rant! Put some paragraph spacing in there.

    If you communicate like this over the phone, I pity whoever you spoke to at CC!

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    Learn how to get your point across. I don't see any words, just an eight inch by eleven inch black rectangle.
    The suspension of your bike sucks if it's different than mine. Really. It sucks. Big time.

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    yes

    Dude,

    If two of their coworkers were killed, then heck YES they should get a rude pass!!! I think that you should give them another chance, because that would mess up my week as well. And if the dude was a tool to you before, he STILL should get the pass, because he is obviously still thinking about his friend!!!
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    yes

    You are "being a big pecker with a capital D". I have lost a colleague to random violence. There is no feeling like it in the world. Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boulder Pilot
    Learn how to get your point across. I don't see any words, just an eight inch by eleven inch black rectangle.
    I might have to give that a reply of the year award.

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    did you mow down the bike workers yourself?

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    Not to sound cold hearted, but they have a business to run. Period. If they feel not able to cope with the losses of their coworkers then they should shut down until they can. As long as they are at work they should handle their customers professionally.

    I have lost a father and brother and returned to work and treated people like I am paid to do. While, sad inside, I am "paid" to be professional at work.

    While I feel for their loss, they do not have any excuse to treat a customer poorly. My advice, take you business elsewhere.

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    Nevermind

    Seriously - paragraphs.

    Bum deal for them, but it doesn't excuse shitty Customer Service. If you can't do the job, don't answer the phone.

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    I agree- I run a large customer service call center. If one of my techs comes to me and tells me that they have had an event like that happen, and they don't think it's going to be a good day for them - I tell em to take the day. I still have a business to run, I still have customers that have to be treated properly. If I find someone that can't do that, I take what measures are necessary.

    Now, for the one time after the loss of their co workers, yeah, Scott might get the rude pass. That has nothing to do with the other 2 times 2 months earlier that he acted like that. There are other places to buy your parts, and it appears you realize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperG
    Not to sound cold hearted, but they have a business to run. Period. If they feel not able to cope with the losses of their coworkers then they should shut down until they can. As long as they are at work they should handle their customers professionally.

    I have lost a father and brother and returned to work and treated people like I am paid to do. While, sad inside, I am "paid" to be professional at work.

    While I feel for their loss, they do not have any excuse to treat a customer poorly. My advice, take you business elsewhere.
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    tl:dr
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    1) Take you business elsewhere, sounds like poor c/s skills are a consistent theme for them, recent close loss or not.

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    Learn how to get your point across. I don't see any words, just an eight inch by eleven inch black rectangle.
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    mbernard71, I totally understand where you are coming from. Definitely go somewhere else next time.
    Myself I have not ordered anything from Colorado Cyclist as they act like they couldn't care less whether i do or not. One time I sent 6 emails to them over about a month period and not one was replied to. All I wanted was to see what shipping costs to Canada would be for wheelsets and some info on a part.

    I had to phone them to get the info and when i did the guy I talked to acted like he had a major attitude problem. He definitely could care less whether I ordered anything from him or not.
    In the end i was told (in an arrogent tone) that "We charge $75.00 USA for shipping to Canada and that we will only ship by UPS who will add another $100.00 at least for brokerage fees. You still want to order wheels from us?".

    Everywhere else shipping fees are around $50.00 to Canada and they ship by USPS so no brokerage fees.

    Maybe Colorado Cyclist just hates Canadians and this is why the guy i talked to acted like this, I don't know.
    In the end I went and bought two wheelset from somewhere else and saved at least $250.00 so I am happy.

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    Wow- some of you guys actually managed to read and understand the OP? How did you manage it- are you used to marking essays or something?

    I'm all with the "black rectangle" group.

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    Sorry about the long non-paragraphed rant. A night out with Sam Adams does that to me.

    I will apply the K.I.S.S. method nest time.

    My drunken stupidity notwithstanding, I guess my opinions weren't to far off base. Which really stinks 'cause the build are smokin' deals.

    Thanks for all the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbernard71
    Sorry about the long non-paragraphed rant. A night out with Sam Adams does that to me.
    I actually did manage to read your whole post, though it made me dizzy. The overriding theme that stuck with me is this guy Scott kept kicking you in the teeth, and you kept coming back for more.

    Colorado Cyclist has never struck me as having particularly great deals, so I've assumed they make that up through excellent service (and fancy catalogs). After the first run-in with Scott, I don't think I'd have given them a second chance. There are too many good retailers out there who, IMHO, offer better prices with no notable service issues.
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    they make good wheels.

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    Sorry about the hint that you were perhaps involved in a drunken motor vehicle altercation.

    I DO agree with other posters that you were treated poorly, and mitigating circumstances aside, it IS a business, and should they not have the ability to run that business in a professional customer oriented manner, then it should close until such time as they can!

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    Support your LBS! If CC or Scott doesn't want your business take it elsewhere.

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    That Scott guy sounds like a real douchebag.
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    Sad if it's true about the coworkers, though when you want a customer off your back and you know they're going to give you hell, you tell them anything.

    It could be true, might not be. Either way, this customer has now told several thousand people his story, which should not have existed in the first place.

    Professionalism.

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    everyone has a bad day but i would of been done with with them after the secound time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Sad if it's true about the coworkers, though when you want a customer off your back and you know they're going to give you hell, you tell them anything.

    It could be true, might not be. Either way, this customer has now told several thousand people his story, which should not have existed in the first place.

    Professionalism.
    The co worker story was true - I remember reading about it somewhere here recently.

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    It's not you. I ordered a $900 Chris King Wheelset from them back in may. I didn't hear from them for a week and a half so I called to check. The person answering the phone sounded like he couldn't care less about me or my order.

    He asked me for my customer number-----to this day I have no idea where this number is or what mine is---it's not on my receipt and it's nowhere to be found if I log in. Of course I didn't have this phantom number and the shop guy seemed extremely put off by having to look me up in their system. He tells me that the wheels are ready and are shipping that day.

    Another 4-5 days pass (I had 2 or 3 day shipping) and still no wheels. Call up again about the wheels, same guy answers---same I could give a crap attitude. Same asking for my customer number---same put off attitude when I don't have. He tells me that there is a backlog in the shop and my wheels have not been built. Huh? Didn't you tell me last week they were ready to ship???? Long story short, got the manager on, explained the situtation. He eventually overnighted my wheels and refunded my shipping.

    I really appreciate what the manager did since it was the right thing to do. I didn't even ask him to overnight it. Will I order from them again? Maybe---a little conflicted. The manager did make it right but the run around from the employee just burns me. I don't think you have to worry about getting ripped off from CC but their Customer Service needs a little polishing.

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    This makes me think of a recent experience I had with MRP. I ordered a XCG guard from them and selected USPS shipping which their site claims will take 3-5 days. So a week after getting their shipping notification email, I email them back and ask about the status. They tell me to wait another week and if I don't get it email them again. So a little more than a week goes by and still no part so I call them, and the customer service person tells me the owner of the company says to just keep waiting. I ask how long and she says another week. I ask "then what if the part still hasn't arrived" and she says to call back in a week. I ask to speak to a supervisor, and they put me on with a guy named Paul. I don't know if he's the owner or not, but his answer to me was "What do you expect me to do about it?" What kind of response if that to give a customer?! He tells me to wait another week and if I still havent' received it then they'll decide what to do. That set me off and after a few heated exchanges I tell him I'm gonna dispute the charge with my cc company and hang up. This was the worst customer service I have ever gotten, and as a sales rep myself I would never treat my customers that way. Needless to say that MRP will never get any business from me again. I'm gonna stick with e13 and blackspire from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    Colorado Cyclist has never struck me as having particularly great deals, so I've assumed they make that up through excellent service (and fancy catalogs). .
    Sales deal may not be great but blowouts are sick. I scored a Manitou 150 Travis for $99. Last year they a had a Santa Cruz V10 frame for around $1,100. I really want to buy it but just bought a new DH frame so I couldn't justify it.

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    damn, did anybody read the whole thing or just the end where two people passed away. They were asses the FIRST and SECOND time he called also. They're is never an excuse to be rude if your business is customer service.

    On a side note. While i was in Little Rock a few months ago i stopped by the shop and got a whole tour of the building. Everyone was super cool. I don't know how many mail order shops would give a tour and explain the whole thing. Afterwards i sat in the guys cubicle and we shot the **** for a little. Cool guy.

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    I think you are confusing Competitive Cyclist (Little Rock) with the Colorado Cyclist (Colorado Springs). Maybe you need to read the whole thing!


    Quote Originally Posted by ejasonm
    damn, did anybody read the whole thing or just the end where two people passed away. They were asses the FIRST and SECOND time he called also. They're is never an excuse to be rude if your business is customer service.

    On a side note. While i was in Little Rock a few months ago i stopped by the shop and got a whole tour of the building. Everyone was super cool. I don't know how many mail order shops would give a tour and explain the whole thing. Afterwards i sat in the guys cubicle and we shot the **** for a little. Cool guy.

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    Wow, bad customer service. I say forget them. Find some good local shops and if their prices are high, ask them if there's any flexibility in the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Stu
    I think you are confusing Competitive Cyclist (Little Rock) with the Colorado Cyclist (Colorado Springs). Maybe you need to read the whole thing!
    LOL True that i have the wrong bike shop, my bad.

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    Well, the story about the 2 coworkers being killed is, unfortunately, very true. A group of 5 riders were coming down 26th Street here in Colo. Springs when a woman in her 60's, that was doped up on prescription drugs and not wearing her corrective lenses that she needed to operate a vehicle, turned her big Ford pickup right into the group, killing the two riders that worked at the 'Cyclist.

    That being said, if they couldn't deal with it, they should not have been taking orders. But that still doesn't excuse/explain the crappy service they gave prior to this happening.

    As someone said, they DO build sweet wheels, but their customer service STINKS. When you go into their "showroom", unless you are a roadie wannabe with less than 1.15% percent body fat and Briko sunglasses on they don't give you the time of day. Honestly, I live here and when people ask where to go I NEVER, EVER recommend CC.

    I'd call 'em back, ask for the manager, and cancel my order for my frame. I call BS on CC!

    But, you know, why is this the prevailing attitude in a lot of shops? Not just mail order, but even LBS. I don't get how you can walk into someone's shop and they don't even say hi, much less offer to assist you. And shops wonder why people shop mail order/internet...

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    I've had a couple experiences with Colorado Cyclist. I went in to the shop several years ago when mtb shopping and was impressed with their selection. But the 3 employees were all roadies and couldn't tell me anything about their Santa Cruz or other bikes. I left and bought elsewhere.

    Last year, I went in to buy a road bike. There were a lot of customers and the only employee that could break free to talk to me was totally mountain. I left. Then I got a catalog with a great deal on a Titus Modena road bike advertised in it. I called the mail order department and the guy I talked to was extremely knowledgeable and helpful. I bought one.

    I had a lot of trouble with Sore Butt Syndrome and numb hands on the road bike. Took it down to the shop. The guys in front didn't seem to have a clue. After an hour or so of dissatisfactory muttering and mumbling, they got a mechanic from the back. The guy was AMAZING. Put me on a trainer, moved my seat forward, swapped the stem, then swapped the bars, then swapped the seat. I went from hating road riding to truly enjoying it, from regretting buying a road bike to being very pleased with my purchase.

    I called them to buy a set of race tires for my mtb recently. The guy was very knowledgeable and helpful, but once I'd made my decision he wouldn't price match anyone else and then he wouldn't tell me it would ship that day (10am conversation) and in fact wouldn't guarantee anything other than "ship within 48 hours". Well, I was in a hurry to get the tires for a race that weekend, so I called BlueSky and got a slightly better price and a guarantee they'd ship that day. The tire arrived on Thursday in time to be installed and tested before Saturday's race.

    So . . . kind of hit and miss for me.

    Certainly understandable that having collegues and friends killed (I remember those headlines and that story in the paper) would make it a "rough week". But, as others said, no excuse for the prior curtness. Perhaps Scott is in the wrong line of work.

    Some of the Colorado Cyclist folks are very knowledgeable and very helpful. Some are not.

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    I keep staring at it wondering if I'll see a figure or something in the background.

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    You're not being too sensitive, and I did not mind reading the detailed description of the experience. As the customer, you deserve to be treated better.

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    nothing wrong with your post, and thanks for sharing.

    for those that cannot read, just move on and chill...life is too short

    if the service sucks, just vote with your feet and remember to tell us about it :-)

    and yes, i dispensed with capitals and some punctuation

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    Quote Originally Posted by raceer2
    nothing wrong with your post, and thanks for sharing.
    Exactly, how long do people think they are going to get milage out of the block post? Feel like I am being told the same joke by my 3 year old over....and over....and over....and somehow expected to smile.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble
    Wow- some of you guys actually managed to read and understand the OP? How did you manage it- are you used to marking essays or something?

    I'm all with the "black rectangle" group.
    I tried, but it's like reading a wall made of 10 pt font.

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