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    Just got an Insider wheelset for my YT Jeffsy; unfortunately no rides yet because of weather but 1st impressions were great. The carbon looks flawless and the glossy coating makes the rims really pop. The graphics are a bit too subdued for my taste but that's not necessary a bad thing. I put one extra strip of rim tape to make sure my used tires would seal up with just a floor pump and it worked like a charm. Can't wait to get a ride in! I do have a set of Ibis carbon wheels on my other bike, so it will be interesting to compare and contrast.

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    Ordering a set of Insider 29s w 240s/28h/CX-Ray. Does anyone know if straight pull is an option and are your insiders weighing in at claimed advertised weight? Do they come taped w valves? Supposedly the setup Iím ordering should be 1481 gms. this set will go on my Scott Spark RC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar View Post
    Ordering a set of Insider 29s w 240s/28h/CX-Ray. Does anyone know if straight pull is an option and are your insiders weighing in at claimed advertised weight? Do they come taped w valves? Supposedly the setup Iím ordering should be 1481 gms. this set will go on my Scott Spark RC.
    I just got a set of these exact wheels. I think they weighed a little more than what I was expecting but they werenít weighed before the tires were mounted (2.3 DHF/DHR2).

    Red spoke nipples. I didnít know thatís what they were coming with, but they look nice, in a very subdued bling kinda way. I got the stealth decals. Maybe a little too stealth.

    First ride was tonight. I went with my daughter. Gentle terrain, and gentle pace. No complaints but I have not rocked them yet. I will report back after I have done a solo blast, likely tomorrow after work.

    Call WAO with any questions. Those guys were sooooo patient with me. They are true enthusiasts and seem to really enjoy fielding questions and providing assistance. It was a totally positive purchase experience for me.

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    Got my first ride on the Insider wheelset and they're awesome! These replaced an aluminum OE wheelset that are also 27mm internal width, and the difference was night and day. The bike turns in so much sharper and feels so responsive, plus they also feel the bike feel smoother. I definitely feels like a lot less effort to spin up the wheels and they don't lose momentum as fast as my old wheels.

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    I've got 1 week and 4 days counting before my wheels should arrive. I asked for straight spoke/hubs and WR1 does not carry those- for anyone interested in that. I'll post the actual weight on these when they come in for future reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar View Post
    I've got 1 week and 4 days counting before my wheels should arrive. I asked for straight spoke/hubs and WR1 does not carry those- for anyone interested in that. I'll post the actual weight on these when they come in for future reference.
    So Insiders with 240s and CX-Rays? If so, that is identical to mine. Not that it matters much but did they mention spoke nipple colour? I was pleasantly surprised that mine arrived with red spoke nipples. Very subtle bling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrmike View Post
    So Insiders with 240s and CX-Rays? If so, that is identical to mine. Not that it matters much but did they mention spoke nipple colour? I was pleasantly surprised that mine arrived with red spoke nipples. Very subtle bling.
    Yep 240s and CX-Rays. Did you upgrade your ratchet? I decided to go w the standard 18t because I like how quiet it is. I had the 56t in the past it was a little loud for my taste. Good call on the nipple color. I didn't specify so I just shot an e-mail to where I'm buying them from and requested red. Now that I'm thinking about it, I didn't specify spoke color. I hope standard default is black for the spokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar View Post
    Yep 240s and CX-Rays. Did you upgrade your ratchet? I decided to go w the standard 18t because I like how quiet it is. I had the 56t in the past it was a little loud for my taste. Good call on the nipple color. I didn't specify so I just shot an e-mail to where I'm buying them from and requested red. Now that I'm thinking about it, I didn't specify spoke color. I hope standard default is black for the spokes.
    I stuck with 18. This is my fourth set of standard 240s. Loved them all. I didnít want to mess with perfection.

    Spokes on mine are flat black.

    I was intending to post some pics. Just at the movies. I will take a few pics when I get home or tomorrow morning and will post them.

    I also went with the stealth decals. They may be a little too stealth but all good.

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    Ok. Just got back from Ant-Man and the Wasp. Hilarious.

    Anyway, apologies 1-bar for the absolute horrific quality of these pics but it's pitch black here. I wanted to get you some pics of the red spoke nipples ASAP, in case you didn't like them. They don't match the red 240 sticker on the hub, but they match the red anodized parts on my fork and shock.

    I like the red spoke nipples. Without them, that wheelset would be pretty ho-hum to my eye. I should have got a different decal though...

    Anyway, here they are. Feel free to ask any questions. I will try to get you some more pics tomorrow as well, in the sun.

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    Next decision...go nuts with a sharpie (oil based) or or not to those offensive Maxxis logos...

    PS - 1-bar - why not call Dustin directly at WAO? Dude's past Canadian DH champ. He's a beast on a bike and 10 out of 10 to deal with. The guy is totally solid. He will patiently answer any and all questions you have. Totally positive purchase experience for me dealing directly with him.

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    Sorry. I have more photos now but this site, as usual, won't let me upload them.

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    The red nipples look good! Did you spec your wheels as 32h? Also, are you rocking a SB100?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar View Post
    The red nipples look good! Did you spec your wheels as 32h? Also, are you rocking a SB100?
    They only offered 28H for the 240 as far as I know. Rockin a Norco Sight. Just got back from a solid ride.

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    Interested in hearing more reviews about the Insider wheels.

    Been looking at NOX, Carbonfan, I9, FSE wheels.....

    Looking for a 27-30mm ID carbon wheelset that comes in at 1500 grams to replace my stock aluminum 2000gr wheels on Intense Primer.

    I'm not a big fan of noisy hubs, have DT and Chris King on other bikes.

    I dig the We Are One company culture and warranty is killer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newking View Post

    I dig the We Are One company culture and warranty is killer!
    It's a shame they don't make a road rim.
    I'm a fan. Would buy another set of WAO. Would consider ordering a complete from them as well.
    I have Agent 29s on Onyx BOOST Centerlock w/Sapim CX-Ray and DT ProLock Brass nipples.

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    Just got my first legit ride in today on the Insiders. I am not a wheel guy so I donít really know what to say. They were light, and they were stiff, but not retina-detaching like my Enves. My bike felt motorized on the ups, and I railed, mobbed and danced through the downs. The best thing? How much raw energy I had for the downs after climbing for over an hour straight. I manhandled my bike on the downs like it was a rag doll. Was it the wheelset? I donít know. After a single ride, I swapped the E*13 wheelset and tires that came on my new bike, for this wheelset and a 2.3 DHF/DHR2 combo. If I am a betting man, Iíd say itís both the wheelset and the tires that resulted in the pure raw magic that I experienced today. I was getting very worried about all the decisions I made to get to where I am but yeah. This bike, and this wheelset rule. Kick. Total. Ass. Thankfully. I am now finally done with all the new bike screwing around. For this season at least...

    PS - I dropped 1.7 pounds swapping out the E*13/240 TRS wheelset and E*13 tires. Those tires almost sucked the soul from me. Thatís 1.7 pounds...with a DHF/DHR2 combo replacing them. So still pretty beefy rubber. 1.7 POUNDS!!!

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    How wide do your 2.3ís measure on the Insiders? I too took delivery on a set of Insiders a couple weeks ago, also 28h 240ís with CX-Rayís. Mounted them on my Capra with a 2.6 DHF on front and a 2.6 Rekon on rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camstyn View Post
    How wide do your 2.3ís measure on the Insiders? I too took delivery on a set of Insiders a couple weeks ago, also 28h 240ís with CX-Rayís. Mounted them on my Capra with a 2.6 DHF on front and a 2.6 Rekon on rear.
    I don't have callipers. But they are one fk of a lot wider than my 2.35s that were on my 27.5 24 id Enves. I know because I have to jam the rear wheel into this...

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    I appreciate that that info is about as useless as it can be, but that's all I got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newking View Post
    Interested in hearing more reviews about the Insider wheels.

    Been looking at NOX, Carbonfan, I9, FSE wheels.....

    Looking for a 27-30mm ID carbon wheelset that comes in at 1500 grams to replace my stock aluminum 2000gr wheels on Intense Primer.

    I'm not a big fan of noisy hubs, have DT and Chris King on other bikes.

    I dig the We Are One company culture and warranty is killer!
    I got mine with the DT 350 56T and they're the quietest hubs I've owned so far. I have Hope on another bike and the usual Novatec, Shimano, Sram on past bikes and these don't make a sound compare to those.

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    Thanks for the pic, they don't look like pizza cutters like I thought they would. I might try 2.3's next time around, this 2.6 DHF on the front is quite heavy and the 2.6 Rekon on the back doesn't roll as fast as I'd hoped.

    I also find my 54t setup very quiet, but that's coming off of the noisy TRS+ hubs, and my other bike has i9's which are stupid loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreOne_Composites View Post
    Hey folks,

    I just wanted to introduce our company to the wheel forum. We are a Canadian carbon rim manufacturer and would like to open the dialogue for any of our products, offer any insight to carbon rim manufacturing and help in any way possible with any questions what so ever.

    We hand lay all of our rims and build all of our wheels right here in Kamloops BC Canada. And ship directly to the consumer and through our dealer network.

    You all have a great forum going here and we would enjoy being a part of the descussion.

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    Perfect timing. I was pointed over to this thread by another mtbr member.
    I have a new Scott Genius and would like to upgrade the wheels. What do you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedkstr View Post
    Perfect timing. I was pointed over to this thread by another mtbr member.
    I have a new Scott Genius and would like to upgrade the wheels. What do you recommend?
    Maybe just call them. You will talk to the owner, Dustin. He is a past Canadian DH champion and owner of WAO. I understand he was one of the individuals who started NOBL. He is a very good guy who will patiently address all your questions and concerns. In the end, I suspect the exact wheelset I bought will be at or near the top of your best options. Scroll up a little bit...

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    Interesting comment on quite DT 350 with 56T would the 240 be the same way. I thought I read somewhere that it was loud and noisy.

    Was on a ride last night and a guy in front of me had the loudest hub I ever heard, we were going through some switchbacks -typical pedal, no pedal, brakes then pedal and the sound was so annoying, like too loud.




    Quote Originally Posted by matadorCE View Post
    I got mine with the DT 350 56T and they're the quietest hubs I've owned so far. I have Hope on another bike and the usual Novatec, Shimano, Sram on past bikes and these don't make a sound compare to those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newking View Post
    Interesting comment on quite DT 350 with 56T would the 240 be the same way. I thought I read somewhere that it was loud and noisy.

    Was on a ride last night and a guy in front of me had the loudest hub I ever heard, we were going through some switchbacks -typical pedal, no pedal, brakes then pedal and the sound was so annoying, like too loud.
    DT 350 does make some noise but it doesn't sound like a bee hive. If you guys like quiet hubs you should check out Project 321 silent pawls. I have them on my Agent's and they are awesome.

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    Writing from Down Under - pretty interested in the Insiders for my 2018 Instinct A70 so great to read some reviews. Does anyone know if there's a rider weight limit with these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juz1970 View Post
    Writing from Down Under - pretty interested in the Insiders for my 2018 Instinct A70 so great to read some reviews. Does anyone know if there's a rider weight limit with these?
    Didn't see a limit listed for these. They're pretty burly and I'm 240lbs and have no concerns about these breaking under me. I'd contact the manufacturer if you really want to be sure.

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    Thanks mate, that's great to know as i am 225 - am in conversation with them right now.

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    Insider 29 wheels

    I've been rocking my WR1C wheels for the past few months. I'm impressed with the durability, looks and performance. These are with the Insiders w Sapim X-ray spokes in 28h. We Are One Composites-img_5844-2.jpg
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    When will your product w/a 35mm +/- id premier?

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    Whats the proper tape width for Agent. Need to replace mine. Also is there a preferred brand?

    BTW I have nearly a year of fairly rugged riding on my WAOs Agents dry, wet, rocky etc... spectacular, if I get a chance I will write an (amateur) long term review.

    When I get out this AM... gonna go banging down some of this... as usual worse than it looks

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    I find that the Industry Nine tape designed for their wider rims is the best for my Agents. Gorilla and other thicker tape seem to sort of ruin the super easy installs.

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    Has anyone else been trying without success to reach WR1? I ordered my second set of Agents and sent a couple post-purchase questions and havenít gotten a response by email or Facebook. Not the end of the world, just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    Has anyone else been trying without success to reach WR1? I ordered my second set of Agents and sent a couple post-purchase questions and havenít gotten a response by email or Facebook. Not the end of the world, just curious.
    I've had no problem. They got right back to me (e-mail).

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    Same thing here. I placed an order two weeks ago and Dustin was super quick to respond initially, then since late last week I haven't gotten a response back to my last 2 emails, I'm going to give them a call when they open this AM.

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    Mustíve been some show or other delay. Theyíre back to their usual first-rate awesomeness. Been firing some emails back and forth about my order and all is well.

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    hi,

    i've been thinking about upgrading from my race face arc 27 (27mm internal width) aluminum rims with dt swiss 350 hubs to the we are one agents.

    i have no experience with carbon rims at all.

    before i spend 1500 bucks, can anyone who has done this type of upgrade give me some insight on the benefits and if it really makes a valid difference compared to, let's say, an upgrade from a 150mm pike to a 36 fox?

    i have a 2017 bronson c,

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by stepping-razor View Post
    hi,

    i've been thinking about upgrading from my race face arc 27 (27mm internal width) aluminum rims with dt swiss 350 hubs to the we are one agents.

    i have no experience with carbon rims at all.

    before i spend 1500 bucks, can anyone who has done this type of upgrade give me some insight on the benefits and if it really makes a valid difference compared to, let's say, an upgrade from a 150mm pike to a 36 fox?

    i have a 2017 bronson c,

    thanks
    I actually had the Heist 30s a while back (ARC rims) as a backup set for my Enve M70s. The Enves were STIFF, great for smashing tough lines but not the most comfortable. ARCs are OK depending on how you build them but youíll definitely notice an increase in lateral stiffness/acceleration with carbon. Where We Are One really hits the sweet spot is in the combo of stiffness and ride comfort. I know Enve released a new line (after being left behind on the comfort front) but the Agent absolutely kills the M70HV in all around performance.

    Going to top-notch Carbon wheels is more like putting a custom damper in your Pike rather than switching to a Fox 36. To quote Ferris Bueller, if you have the means I highly recommend picking some up. My Evil Insurgent is already rocking Agents and the choice was easy for my new build, a Yeti SB130. Although the Yeti is getting some Onyx hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    I actually had the Heist 30s a while back (ARC rims) as a backup set for my Enve M70s. The Enves were STIFF, great for smashing tough lines but not the most comfortable. ARCs are OK depending on how you build them but youíll definitely notice an increase in lateral stiffness/acceleration with carbon. Where We Are One really hits the sweet spot is in the combo of stiffness and ride comfort. I know Enve released a new line (after being left behind on the comfort front) but the Agent absolutely kills the M70HV in all around performance.

    Going to top-notch Carbon wheels is more like putting a custom damper in your Pike rather than switching to a Fox 36. To quote Ferris Bueller, if you have the means I highly recommend picking some up. My Evil Insurgent is already rocking Agents and the choice was easy for my new build, a Yeti SB130. Although the Yeti is getting some Onyx hubs.
    thank you DrPete.

    did you notice any difference on tech climbs or climbs in general with the carbon rims? i don't know if there is a weight difference between the two wheelsets, but i imagine the general feel of the Agents would be beneficial uphill.

    btw, i'm looking at the Agents with dt swiss 350 hubs with the 54 tooth ratchet upgrade. i now have 36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepping-razor View Post
    thank you DrPete.

    did you notice any difference on tech climbs or climbs in general with the carbon rims? i don't know if there is a weight difference between the two wheelsets, but i imagine the general feel of the Agents would be beneficial uphill.

    btw, i'm looking at the Agents with dt swiss 350 hubs with the 54 tooth ratchet upgrade. i now have 36.

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    Iíll be honest, dropping the weight didnít cause the sky to open up and shine a light from heaven on my climbs but where I did notice a difference was the surefootedness on the punchy climbs and tech stuff.

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    Running a set of XM481/DT350s on my bike right now...i think the weight is right around 1900 grams for the setup.

    I am a bigger guy, about 240lbs fully geared up....dont necessarily want to go super light weight...i want strong and sturdy and stiff. But i would figure a good carbon wheelset would also be lighter than my OEM setup....what do you all recommend here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek1387 View Post
    Running a set of XM481/DT350s on my bike right now...i think the weight is right around 1900 grams for the setup.

    I am a bigger guy, about 240lbs fully geared up....dont necessarily want to go super light weight...i want strong and sturdy and stiff. But i would figure a good carbon wheelset would also be lighter than my OEM setup....what do you all recommend here?
    Agents, all day long. Iím the same weight as you on my heaviest days and my Agents have just shrugged off everything. Rock gardens, cased jumps, you name it. They are just totally point and shoot, stiff in the right ways but compliant where they need to be. Best wheels Iíve ever owned, and that includes wheels like I9 Enduro 305 and Enve M70HV. Pick your favorite hubs and enjoy. You wonít regret it. Iím building up a 29er and thought briefly about trying SC Reserves before coming back for a second set. I9 hubs for the 27.5s, Onyx for the new 29ers.

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    Agent 29 w/240s and CX-Ray spokes are claimed @1631g.

    I'm ~165-170lbs and use Agent 29s. Weight isn't a concern for myself as I run burly tyres and the bike is also a beast. Can't say I've ever weighed my bikes. Put performance, durability and enjoyment before all that. If I want my light bike with quick acceleration I take out the road bike.

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    Can anyone speak to how long the shipping takes coming from Kamloops to the west coast? Waiting anxiously on some Agent's w/ Onyx as the last part of my new build...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    Can anyone speak to how long the shipping takes coming from Kamloops to the west coast? Waiting anxiously on some Agent's w/ Onyx as the last part of my new build...
    My Agents arrived in WA the next day after they shipped. Had them within a week. The real limiter is hub choice and what they have on hand, in the sense that if you order a less common color or something it may take a while to get hubs in. They had plain black Onyx hubs on hand when I ordered. Shipping is crazy fast.

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    They used 2 day shipping when they sent mine. Shipped on Thursday, arrived in TN on Monday.

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    Mine arrived to Victoria day after leaving Kamloops; took a while to get out the door though...

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    The GF had a wine shipment from Kelowna delayed this week due to crappy weather on the Coquihalla.
    So if everything is good to go that would be an issue.

    WAO is well worth the wait.

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    Iím assuming that Dustin is not using Canada Post butnifbhe is, that could be the cause of the delay as Canadaís a post is presently having rotational strikes across Canada.
    The wheels are worth the wait as has been mentioned.
    Call and ask, Dustin almost always answers the phone and will call you back if he doesnít answer.
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    I am 95% of the way towards throwing down on my second set of wheels from We Are One. I already have Insiders with DT 240s and CX-Rays. I am going for Agents this time. Just deciding on the hubs. 90% of the way towards 350s with the 36 tooth ratchet ďupgradeĒ. I just need to get those Onyx hubs out of my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrmike View Post
    I am 95% of the way towards throwing down on my second set of wheels from We Are One. I already have Insiders with DT 240s and CX-Rays. I am going for Agents this time. Just deciding on the hubs. 90% of the way towards 350s with the 36 tooth ratchet ďupgradeĒ. I just need to get those Onyx hubs out of my mind.
    I have 350/Agents on my Fugitive and love em. I have I9 hubs on my HT and have not missed the engagement. I am now thinking of a pair for my HT. Do you have details on the sale?
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    I ordered Agents with I9s, was hoping to get them before Thanksgiving but sounds like they will be shipped at the end of next week. I'm excited, first carbon rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I have 350/Agents on my Fugitive and love em. I have I9 hubs on my HT and have not missed the engagement. I am now thinking of a pair for my HT. Do you have details on the sale?
    TB - PM sent.

    Also - did you opt for the 36 or 54 tooth ratchet upgrade for your 350s? If not, will you on your next set?

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    I went with the 36 tooth for more reliability. It's enough POE for me and I love reliability.
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    Iíve got the first few rides on my Agent 29s with Onyx hubs. The eerie awesomeness of silently bombing a descent is worth the extra grams. And the engagement is insane. Love em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    Iíve got the first few rides on my Agent 29s with Onyx hubs. The eerie awesomeness of silently bombing a descent is worth the extra grams. And the engagement is insane. Love em.
    Aaarrrggghhh. I need to decide today. Onyx vs DT.

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    Iíve had 240s and 350s on wheels and you really canít go wrong, but Onyx is a whole new and very cool experience, and they let you support another little guy company thatís making awesome stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    Iíve had 240s and 350s on wheels and you really canít go wrong, but Onyx is a whole new and very cool experience, and they let you support another little guy company thatís making awesome stuff.
    If my trail dog wasn't so used to the sound of I9s I'd have probably given the Onyx a try. But I9 is local to me so I gotta support them, I got a tour from the owner last weekend.We Are One Composites-72b477a3-d3f9-4fce-af09-093f8648138d.jpgWe Are One Composites-img_3265.jpg
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    Iíve got I9s on my other set of Agents so Iíve got the full noise spectrum covered. Haha.

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    Im still waiting on a response from Dustin so I can get mine ordered up. Hope all is well up there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek1387 View Post
    Im still waiting on a response from Dustin so I can get mine ordered up. Hope all is well up there....
    I am ALL OVER those guys right now. Sorry if I took time away from you. LOL. If you are emailing, best to pick the phone up and call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrmike View Post
    I am ALL OVER those guys right now. Sorry if I took time away from you. LOL. If you are emailing, best to pick the phone up and call.
    So what hubs did you decide on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    So what hubs did you decide on?
    I want to be able to swap wheel sets between my SRAM equipped FS, and my Shimano equipped HT. I am running Insiders with DT 240s on my FS. I am going to get Agents with 350s for the HT so I can swap drivers and cassettes between wheel sets and run them interchangeably between the 2 bikes. I can't do that unless the drivers are interchangeable, which is only possible if I go with DT Swiss again.

    Or at least I think so. Hopefully all of this is correct. Lots of moving pieces for my simple little mind...

    The Onyx though...I dreamt about them. I would love to experience the zen like feeling of maching the downs, only to hear my tires scratching against the dirt. It must be an incredible sensation. Not to mention the infinite POEs and beautiful industrial art that they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrmike View Post
    I want to be able to swap wheel sets between my SRAM equipped FS, and my Shimano equipped HT. I am running Insiders with DT 240s on my FS. I am going to get Agents with 350s for the HT so I can swap drivers and cassettes between wheel sets and run them interchangeably between the 2 bikes. I can't do that unless the drivers are interchangeable, which is only possible if I go with DT Swiss again.

    Or at least I think so. Hopefully all of this is correct. Lots of moving pieces for my simple little mind...

    The Onyx though...I dreamt about them. I would love to experience the zen like feeling of maching the downs, only to hear my tires scratching against the dirt. It must be an incredible sensation. Not to mention the infinite POEs and beautiful industrial art that they are.
    You are correct, in fact with dt hubs you can just take the wheel off, grab the cassette, and yank. The end cap should stay in place which is the only other part that needs to go with the new driver so your swaps should be quick if there's no contamination.

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    The boss (wife) gave approval to get a set of the Insiders if they ever go on sale. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrubicon550 View Post
    The boss (wife) gave approval to get a set of the Insiders if they ever go on sale. lol.
    I hear they are having a Black Friday sale.
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    Has that started yet? I've been waiting to pull the trigger to see if they're gonna do a sale. I see nothing on their website about a sale though.
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    They are having a Black Friday sale. 20% off
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    Me too. I've been watching like a hawk. I haven't received an e-mail from their newsletter or seen anything on their facebook page.

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    It's announced on Instagram, goes live tomorrow.
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    ^^^^ 20% off everything...November 21óNovember 26

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    Awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwapik View Post
    ^^^^ 20% off everything...November 21óNovember 26
    Yep, ordered mine last Tuesday, can't wait to get them!
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    Do these come taped? Or what tape did everyone use to convert to tubeless?

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    Ordered and paid. Agents with 350s with the 36 tooth upgrade and custom decals.

    Second wheel set from We are One.

    Totally stoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrubicon550 View Post
    Do these come taped? Or what tape did everyone use to convert to tubeless?
    They come taped, tubeless ready.
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    Ordered Agent/DT350s for my hardtail.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Ordered 29er Agents with Onyx hubs for my Fuel EX. I just couldn't pass up the 20% off deal.

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    Perfect. Thanks!

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    Thinking of the insider wheels in 27.5. Thoughts on running 2.6Ē tires?

    Or is Agent wheel more appropriate???

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsklrdr View Post
    Thinking of the insider wheels in 27.5. Thoughts on running 2.6Ē tires?

    Or is Agent wheel more appropriate???
    IMHO, Agent 100% if you plan on running 2.6s. It will vary with the specific tire, but for a 2.6? I would go Agent. Why wouldn't you? The weight saving is likely negligible.

    I have 29er Insiders. The tire profile is perfect for 2.3 DHF/DHR2s. I just ordered a set of Agents to run 2.5/2.6s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsklrdr View Post
    Thinking of the insider wheels in 27.5. Thoughts on running 2.6Ē tires?

    Or is Agent wheel more appropriate???
    Agents are the perfect match for 2.6" wide tires. That what I'm running on mine - one set each of 27.5 and 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbine_275 View Post
    Agents are the perfect match for 2.6" wide tires. That what I'm running on mine - one set each of 27.5 and 29.
    I was leaning toward running 2.3 normally but may want to run 2.5-2.6 in future and was originally leaning toward insider. Especially if i run 2.3 most of time... BUT before i pull trigger considering the agents even though heavier but may give me more tire options...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsklrdr View Post
    I was leaning toward running 2.3 normally but may want to run 2.5-2.6 in future and was originally leaning toward insider. Especially if i run 2.3 most of time... BUT before i pull trigger considering the agents even though heavier but may give me more tire options...
    That is a gloss on what you said originally.

    If you are unsure (or even if you think you are sure), why not just call Dustin at We Are One? Dude picks up the phone himself. Why not take advantage of that? Not only is he the owner and a really decent guy, he is a former CDN DH champ and Giant team rider who shared the WC DH podium with Steve Peat and the like.

    That said, of course you can run 2.6s on the Insider. The Agents would be preferable. You will have to run a higher psi with the narrower id of the Insider and even then, you may get quite a bit of flop on hard cornering. The tire profile may be more lightbulb-ish and with some tires (Minions), you may feel a tendency to wash out on cornering before the side lugs kick in. But holy eff were they fast. Possibly because the side lugs were never near the dirt. That was my experience with my old 24 id Enve rims and Minions. But that was with MY riding style. You may be fine.

    As with most things in life, you can't have everything. That's why WAO makes both rims, and why some of us have both wheel sets.

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    I just ordered a set of 27.5 Insiders -- took advantage of the 20% off.
    I wanted to try other hubs (went in intending to get CK or Onyx) but ended up with 240s again -- my third wheelset with them. They just seem to tick off all the boxes: light, reliable, strong, smooth bearing, centerlock, easy to service, easy to switch between quiet (18T) and CK-like buzz (54T).
    With CX Rays comes out to about 1450 grams.
    To answer some questions asked above:
    Phone Dustin. He is great. Period. I dealt with him years ago when he was at NOBL and he was the same there.
    For those in Canada, We Are One does NOT ship Canada Post so don't worry about the strike.
    Dustin says they all are running Maxxis WT on their Insiders. He says it's a perfect fit. He says they tested 2.6 and even 2.8 and in his words "found them to be more than fine. They were a round profile but rolled really nice."
    IMO, I think if you're going 2.6 then go for The Agents. But I run Minion 2.3 and Ardent 2.4 in the summer and going for WT this winter, so The Insider is a great one wheelset solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon123 View Post
    I just ordered a set of 27.5 Insiders -- took advantage of the 20% off.
    I wanted to try other hubs (went in intending to get CK or Onyx) but ended up with 240s again -- my third wheelset with them. They just seem to tick off all the boxes: light, reliable, strong, smooth bearing, centerlock, easy to service, easy to switch between quiet (18T) and CK-like buzz (54T).
    With CX Rays comes out to about 1450 grams.
    To answer some questions asked above:
    Phone Dustin. He is great. Period. I dealt with him years ago when he was at NOBL and he was the same there.
    For those in Canada, We Are One does NOT ship Canada Post so don't worry about the strike.
    Dustin says they all are running Maxxis WT on their Insiders. He says it's a perfect fit. He says they tested 2.6 and even 2.8 and in his words "found them to be more than fine. They were a round profile but rolled really nice."
    IMO, I think if you're going 2.6 then go for The Agents. But I run Minion 2.3 and Ardent 2.4 in the summer and going for WT this winter, so The Insider is a great one wheelset solution.
    Im leaning toward insiders with the i9ís as i really plan on running 2.3 and/or 2.4 sizing. I am a big fan of conti tires but i love maxxis too as i know you cant run contis on We Are Ones.

    The 2.6 idea was more of future proofing i guess...

    I want to take advantage of the sale as this set is for a bike i will build beginning of next year.

    Ill think about it some more while i am in my post turkey coma!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon123 View Post
    I just ordered a set of 27.5 Insiders -- took advantage of the 20% off.
    I wanted to try other hubs (went in intending to get CK or Onyx) but ended up with 240s again -- my third wheelset with them. They just seem to tick off all the boxes: light, reliable, strong, smooth bearing, centerlock, easy to service, easy to switch between quiet (18T) and CK-like buzz (54T).
    With CX Rays comes out to about 1450 grams.
    To answer some questions asked above:
    Phone Dustin. He is great. Period. I dealt with him years ago when he was at NOBL and he was the same there.
    For those in Canada, We Are One does NOT ship Canada Post so don't worry about the strike.
    Dustin says they all are running Maxxis WT on their Insiders. He says it's a perfect fit. He says they tested 2.6 and even 2.8 and in his words "found them to be more than fine. They were a round profile but rolled really nice."
    IMO, I think if you're going 2.6 then go for The Agents. But I run Minion 2.3 and Ardent 2.4 in the summer and going for WT this winter, so The Insider is a great one wheelset solution.
    I want to get a carbon wheelset for my new Ibis Ripmo (I'll get it in February). I've never ridden anything larger than 2.4 on my personal bike. I ride a wide variety of trail even during the same day: Lots of slow climbing followed by steep rocky technical descent, some flowy descent with jumps and berms, lots of technical rocky xc trails as well... Given the capability of my future bike, I was getting an agent wheelset with dt 240 or 350 (not sure yet). But reading comment about how insiders still performed ok with 2.6 and probably better with smaller tires, I think I might go that route... I have an Intense Spider comp with Easton 19mm inner width rims so even going with the insider wheelset should be a major improvement for me...

    How about running a 2.35 on Agent wheels? Are they performing ok? Thanks for any input I'm getting into analysis paralysis a bit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsklrdr View Post
    Thinking of the insider wheels in 27.5. Thoughts on running 2.6Ē tires?

    Or is Agent wheel more appropriate???
    Depends on tire. Something w/round profile like HansDampf looks ok but Minion DHF needs wider to square it off.

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    Anyone riding these able to give comparison to either nobl or sc reserve wheels? I have a pair of nobl on my Bronson (Dustin was one of the big reasons I went with nobl st the time.. that dude is great, super knowledgeable and patient with questions).

    Iím thinking about picking up a pair during their Black Friday sale for a 29er Iím going to build up early Jan, but Iím curious about their ride quality. Iíve ridden nobl and demod sc reserves and was going to go with reserves for the warranty, but hand laid in NA by a small company with an amazing warranty is something Iíd like to support if the ride quality fits my preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    Anyone riding these able to give comparison to either nobl or sc reserve wheels? I have a pair of nobl on my Bronson (Dustin was one of the big reasons I went with nobl st the time.. that dude is great, super knowledgeable and patient with questions).

    Iím thinking about picking up a pair during their Black Friday sale for a 29er Iím going to build up early Jan, but Iím curious about their ride quality. Iíve ridden nobl and demod sc reserves and was going to go with reserves for the warranty, but hand laid in NA by a small company with an amazing warranty is something Iíd like to support if the ride quality fits my preference.
    I have not ridden NOBL or Reserves. That said, I am coming off a set of very expensive Enves.

    FWIW, I just ordered my second wheel set from Dustin. So did Travis Bickle above. The co-inventor of the VPP suspension linkage design (who I know) also owns 2 sets of WAOs. I expect to be buying a third set in April.

    I have not seen a single bad word said about WAO. The purchased experience is 100% positive (as you know, having dealt with Dustin at NOBL). I know of no reason to not go with them.

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    My Agents with I9s should be shipping Monday! Hope to get my first ride on them next weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bannerman View Post
    My Agents with I9s should be shipping Monday! Hope to get my first ride on them next weekend.
    Congrats. Trusting you will properly celebrate this tonight.

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    Picked up a set of We Are One Agent 29 wheels, laced to Onyx hubs back in October, and I've had a good monthís worth of riding on them since. Just thought I'd give my impressions for anybody considering these, or on the fence.

    This is my first time spending any considerable time riding on carbon rims, but compared to the aluminum Bontrager Line Comp 30 rims (28 mm internal diameter) I was on, these wheels feel amazing. They track incredibly well, and cornering feels noticeably more precise. It's not a "harsh" ride at all, something I've commonly heard applied to overly stiff carbon rims. I'm running 2.6" Nobby Nic's front and rear, and the traction with the slightly added tire volume is awesome. The overall ride feel is a dramatic improvement from what I was used to. The bike handles better on the trail, and in the air.

    Now for the Onyx hubs. Holy shit. First off, they look old-school awesome, but the bike pedals like a completely new machine. I know people complain about the added hub weight, and admittedly, when I picked up the rear wheel after mounting the tires (tubeless), they felt disconcertingly heavy, but once I was on the trail, I couldn't notice the weight at all. Because of how relatively light these rims are, the bulk of that weight is at the wheel's center, and for what you get performance and feel-wise, any increase in weight is, in my mind, totally worth it. The hubs are completely silent, roll completely smooth, and engage instantly. I spend a lot of my time riding on some fairly technical trails around Victoria and Duncan, BC, and I've now cleared climbing sections that in the past have always resulted in pedal strikes and failed attempts. Descending is even better. Thereís no buzz or vibration from the rear hub, and it feels like I can ďfeelĒ the tires on the ground, in a way Iíve never noticed before. Its hard to describe, but it needs to be experienced. Pedaling feels smooth, there is no clunk of engagement, power just starts going to the wheel. A solo night ride down a flowy trail might be my favorite experience on a bike to date, and it was because the only thing I could see was the trail in front of me, and the only thing I could hear were my tires on the ground. If youíre put off by the weight, donít be. Simple as that.

    Back to We Are One, they were super good to deal with. I ordered the Agent 29 Rims with the Sapim Race spokes, Onyx antifreeze green hubs, with the custom decal option. I placed the order online on a Sunday, and the wheels were delivered on the Wednesday, almost suspiciously fast (in fairness, they were shipped from Kamloops to Penticton BC, about a 2.5 hour drive, so its not like it was a long way to go). Dustin was in touch with me about the decals, and they did a very nice job on an orange and green colour theme on their stock decals. The decals were delivered about a week later, but were fairly straightforward to apply.

    Overall, Iím very happy with these wheels. Itís by far the most expensive bike related purchase (aside from the actual bike) that Iíve ever made, or likely to make in the future, and Iím very glad I did.

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    These are just superb Dustin!

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