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    Which tires are easier to slip over the rim?

    My Sun-Ringle thread has me asking this new question.
    In your experience, which UST or Tubeless-ready tires are easiest to mount over a tight rim?

    (Yes, I tried teh Google machine.)

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    Which tires are easier to slip over the rim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thatshowiroll View Post
    My Sun-Ringle thread has me asking this new question.
    In your experience, which UST or Tubeless-ready tires are easiest to mount over a tight rim?

    (Yes, I tried teh Google machine.)
    None. By design UST and TR tires have a slightly smaller BSD. Not intended to be used on Notubes type rims.

    The Black Flag rims use the Notubes rim design which has a significantly larger BSD than ISO or UST spec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    None. By design UST and TR tires have a slightly smaller BSD. Not intended to be used on Notubes type rims.

    The Black Flag rims use the Notubes rim design which has a significantly larger BSD than ISO or UST spec.
    That's a helpful point.
    So, with Stan's rims, would "normal" bead tires be best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    None. By design UST and TR tires have a slightly smaller BSD. Not intended to be used on Notubes type rims.

    The Black Flag rims use the Notubes rim design which has a significantly larger BSD than ISO or UST spec.
    Tire God Shiggy can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but, weren't NoTubes rims designed specifically to run standard (non tubeless or TLR) tires?

    Wasn't that their whole marketing thing?
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    Not an answer to the question, but I can tell you that putting on a pair of mechanics gloves (or your full fingered biking gloves) makes a world of difference when trying to mount tight tires.

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    Didn't know this (about Stans rims) but makes perfect sense. I recently tried mounting up a tubeless python tire to a stans crest and it did not go well... resulted in lots of foul language and the same tire I had before being reinstalled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatshowiroll View Post
    That's a helpful point.
    So, with Stan's rims, would "normal" bead tires be best?
    Stans BST design was/is for converting standard tires to tubeless. So yes, standard tires would be easier to mount than tubeless ready. The Sun/Ringle wheels use the first generation BST which is a little more tubeless ready tire friendly than the second generation on Stans newer rims. I ran 2Bliss tires on my Chargers with very good success, though they mount much easier on my current TCS rims. I also ran CST (Maxxis) folding bead tires on my Chargers with good success. Some standard tires seem to work well, some don't...that's the YMMV element to the Stans system.

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    Thanks for the info guys.
    I was using UST to make it easier to set up tubeless, but I think I'm going to try some normal bead tires.
    Perhaps a set of Maxxis Ikons.

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    I took your advice on the Maxxis. Got a pair of Ikons and no problem slipping over the rim.
    Hopefully they're easy to convert to tubeless.

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    I put some 26x2.35 Ikon TRs on and they held air pretty well without any sealant at all in them, on Haven carbon rims.

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    Tires that "slip easily over the rim" + tubeless doesn't seem like a desirable combination to me.

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