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    Specialized Eliminator Grid Tire

    I found this tire in 29" 2.3" size at a LBS. I can't find any feedback on the internet regarding this model. It weight about 930 grams and has aggressive side knob and ramped center knobs with two knobs close to center, then two knobs equally spaced, followed by three smaller knobs the bridge the gap from side knob to side knob.

    Anybody have a chance to review this tire yet? I looks to me like it might make a decent rear tire to replace the Griffin I am currently running, which was great for about 100 miles of rocky single track before the side knobs started ripping.

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    Here is a picture of the new tire
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    very interested in this tire as well. I'm shocked to see you found it in store. I was told we wouldnt see it till February

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    what shop is this?

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    Look what showed up in the mail today. It's a little chunkier than I was hoping for but it's light. Specifically the center knobs are taller than I was expecting. It almost feels like they've thinned out the grid casing a bit to compete more directly with Maxxis EXO. Hope I don't destroy it immediately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasR6 View Post
    Look what showed up in the mail today. It's a little chunkier than I was hoping for but it's light. Specifically the center knobs are taller than I was expecting. It almost feels like they've thinned out the grid casing a bit to compete more directly with Maxxis EXO. Hope I don't destroy it immediately.

    Could you please weigh it and also measure the width when mounted?

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    I don’t have a small scale to weigh it on but I can put a caliper on it

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    Specialized Eliminator Tire Review

    The package arrived from Specialized asking me to check these out so I rode the Specialized Eliminator 29 x 2.6, w/Grid casing, as my front tire today, Sun Nov 4th (no rain for months), on an ‘18 S-Works Enduro w/Roval Carbon rims. Ride was 19 Mi 2500 vert ascend and 4400 descend in Santa Cruz from Santa Rosalia (Demo) to Soquel Village, mostly single-track, lose, dusty, off-camber turns, some with leaves and/or loamy, some rocky and quite a bit of hard pack with a fine layer of dirt on top to keep it interesting. https://www.relive.cc/view/1946525900 I ran 20 lbs pressure which is less pressure than the 2.6 Butcher it replaced because I just returned from DVille.

    I was extremely happy with the Eliminator’s cornering ability which gave me confidence to open it up a bit more during today’s dusty conditions. I could feel my rear Purgatory 2.3 breaking loose in turns while my front held true. Don’t get me wrong, I still got the Eliminator sliding a bit but it felt way more controlled compared to the Butcher which I credit the Eliminator’s cornering as a result of an increased number of shoulder knobs and more, what I call “split” knobs which essentially creates more, smaller, knobs. The Butcher it replaced was installed in early Oct, I ran Butchers all summer riding Santa Cruz and at every CA Enduro Series race, going through maybe 3 or 4 this season.

    First impression is I really like the Eliminator, especially in these dry conditions! It will be interesting to see how it holds up but I’m pretty confident it’ll do well after riding other GRIDs with the Gription compound for a few years now. I will do a follow up to this review in a month or so and especially let you know how it feels when we get some rain (hopefully soon!).
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    here is a link to my first ride impression in another thread. Spoiler alert, its good.http://forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/...l#post13874247

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    Posted this in the other thread but wondering how the rubber was going for you?

    Wondering if I shouldn't dial the 2.6 back to 2.3? If I go to this one.

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    I'm pretty interested in one of these for South African conditions - Dry n' dust or alot hard / loose over hard and rocks. I've been a fan of the Slaughter as a back tyre for years now but have been struggling with a front choice for a while now. I had a Ibex that was brilliant until it did that thing of looking like there was loads of life left in it but then trying to kill you each ride cos it was past it's sell by date.

    It's going on a set of flow mk3's for my evil.

    Next up was a butcher in grid 2.6 but i really didn't like the 'squirm' that I got from it on the front when I hit a slab, rock garden or boulder roll. Didn't inspire confidence (buzz... enduro bingo).

    I'm on a DHF and to be honest it's fine but it's not exactly speedy and I do find myself peddling in spots here I used to be thinking of maybe reaching for the panic levers. It's fine when you're railing down but for the sections in between it does feel a bit like a hand brake.

    Anyone throw any light on the squirm factor?

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    Good job!

    I haven't had a chance to ride the Eliminator on any slab surfaces yet so no real "squirming" to report. The only slabs I might hit would be in the Sierras but typically between the slabs you'll find the sierra moondust or at least loamy conditions so I assume this tire would still be a great all-around choice for any CA slab riding. As far as tire width goes to minimize squirming I do typically run a 2.3 in the rear to reduce rolling resistance, burping, and said squirm. I run the 2.6 in the front to provide more surface contact in turns and because more weight is distibuted to the rear there's less chance of all the above negative effects. With the increased side knobs on the Eliminator I predict less squirming even with a sizable knob depth but that's purely with a non-engineering background.

    The only time I possibly see the Eliminator running into issues is with clay/muddy conditions because the knobs are closer together than the Butcher and Purgatory but since I haven't seen any mud or clay in nearly 9 months I have to shelve my opinions on the matter until I actually have one of substance!!
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    I use to run the 2.5 DHF 3c. Great freakin' traction but it's just such an anchor, even as a front tire.

    Swapped to a front Butcher 2.6. Clearly it rolls better (a lot!) and at first I was cool with the 10-15% loss in traction compared to the DHF but now I'm missing the traction.

    Where does the Eliminator fit in to all of this (RR & Traction) for rocky loose dry terrain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    Where does the Eliminator fit in to all of this (RR & Traction) for rocky loose dry terrain?
    Its amazing man. Rolls very well and cornering grip is unreal. What you're describing is the perfect terrain for the eliminator. Get it. You will not be sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOYOHO View Post
    Wondering if I shouldn't dial the 2.6 back to 2.3? If I go to this one.

    Anyone throw any light on the squirm factor?
    I cant really comment on the squirm factor on rock slab just yet. I only have one ride in on this tire thus far. Which casing were you running on the butcher? Are you on 27.5 or 29" wheels? The 27.5 version of Specialized's 2.6's is significantly larger than the 29er version. I measured my eliminator 29x2.6 on a 30mm internally wide rim and it measured 2.4". Your flows are 29mm internally so it would be very similar. If you're running 27.5's that big shape could be part of the squirm you're feeling. Also, if you're a heavy or especially hard rider, you might consider using the blk dmnd casing instead. It should be a fair bit stiffer. I've just installed the eliminator blk dmnd in 27.5x2.6 on the front of my park bike. I havent had a chance to ride it yet though so I cant really report on its performance just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasR6 View Post
    The 27.5 version of Specialized's 2.6's is significantly larger than the 29er version.
    nah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schulze View Post
    nah
    promise. I have both sizes. My local dealer even pointed it out to me because I told them I didnt want the huge 2.6 on my 29er that I was accustomed to on my 27.5

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    Any update on true width on the 2.6 for the 27.5 version? Looking to replace my 2.8 butcher grid and this got my eye for the rear tire

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    I’ll have it this week

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    Just ordered the 29er 2.6 and 2.3 should be in next week.

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    Has anyone mounted a 27.5x2.6 Eliminator on a 35mm rim? Curious to see if it flattens out too much

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    I just installed eliminator grid 27.5”, in both 2.3 and 2.6, on 29 mm Id rims.
    The 2.6 measures 2.49” at the casing and 2.44” tread (I hate it when tread is narrower than casing, even slightly)
    The 2.3 measures 2.31” both casing and tread. Oddly, the knobs look a hair taller on the 2.3”.
    2.6 is 920 grams
    2.3 is 890 g

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    That's typical. When the tire casing gets bigger they reduce the knob height. It's a total ripoff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    I just installed eliminator grid 27.5”, in both 2.3 and 2.6, on 29 mm Id rims.
    The 2.6 measures 2.49” at the casing and 2.44” tread (I hate it when tread is narrower than casing, even slightly)
    The 2.3 measures 2.31” both casing and tread. Oddly, the knobs look a hair taller on the 2.3”.
    2.6 is 920 grams
    2.3 is 890 g
    That's unfortunate. I was hoping it was going to be a "true" 2.6 for the 27.5. May have to a wait for a 2.8 to get that it would seem. I am running 37mm ID wheels - so that would get fairly squared off.

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    I like the 2.3" eliminator on the back, but not 2.6" the front. Side/cornering grip is sub par on a rough, off camber trail i rode, front washed out and almost sent me down on an off camber loose section where other tires (minion) gripped. May just go back to Minion but am now trying a wtb vigilante 2.6" on the front, 2.45" casing 2.66"! tread. It does have transition knobs like the Eliminator but so far side grip seems much better. Burliest tire ive ever run, almost overkill!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    I like the eliminator on the back, but not the front. Side/cornering grip is sub par on a rough, off camber trail i rode, front washed out and almost sent me down on an off camber loose section where other tires (minion) gripped. May just go back to Minion but am now trying a wtb vigilante 2.6" on the front, 2.45" casing 2.66"! tread. It does have transition knobs like the Eliminator but so far side grip seems much better. Burliest tire ive ever run, almost overkill!
    I really like the Eliminator as a rear tire. Grips well on technical climbs, brakes well, and corners fine for a rear tire. I am keeping a 2.5 DHF up front. Best combo I have had yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    trying a wtb vigilante 2.6" on the front, 2.45" casing 2.66"! tread. It does have transition knobs like the Eliminator but so far side grip seems much better. Burliest tire ive ever run, almost overkill!
    Not to derail the thread but man I'd love to try a couple of WTB tires, especially a trail boss on the rear. They are just so damn heavy! Even their famously flimsy light casing is 200-300g heavier than the SE4 I'm running on the rear now. I emailed them about this recently. Their response? (not an exact quote) Yeah we know our stuff is way heavier than anyone else. We just dont care. Pretty lame.

    On a thread related note: I just installed a blk dmnd casing eliminator on the front of my park bike. That thing has some LEGIT side walls. The tread area of the casing seems pretty supple though. Very interesting build. Again, mounted very tight but I removed my valve core to get a straight shot of air into the tire and it mounted right up with no issue. Not even a bubble. This is replacing a 2017 model Butcher grid 27.5x2.6. Even though that tire was only about 18 months old, you can see how much the grid casing has been thinned out on the latest tires. The old butcher grid was noticeably heavier on my hand scale than the grid eliminator I installed recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasR6 View Post
    Not to derail the thread but man I'd love to try a couple of WTB tires, especially a trail boss on the rear. They are just so damn heavy! Even their famously flimsy light casing is 200-300g heavier than the SE4 I'm running on the rear now. I emailed them about this recently. Their response? (not an exact quote) Yeah we know our stuff is way heavier than anyone else. We just dont care. Pretty lame.

    On a thread related note: I just installed a blk dmnd casing eliminator on the front of my park bike. That thing has some LEGIT side walls. The tread area of the casing seems pretty supple though. Very interesting build. Again, mounted very tight but I removed my valve core to get a straight shot of air into the tire and it mounted right up with no issue. Not even a bubble. This is replacing a 2017 model Butcher grid 27.5x2.6. Even though that tire was only about 18 months old, you can see how much the grid casing has been thinned out on the latest tires. The old butcher grid was noticeably heavier on my hand scale than the grid eliminator I installed recently.
    Do you happen to have measurements on the BLK dmnd casing 2.6 27.5 tire? Really curious.

    I have a 2.6" WTB Trail boss "light casing" on the rear right now. It's definitely 2.6+ at the knobs and ~ 2.5ish at the casing. Pretty quick rolling and supportive sidewalls, though I have already had non-sealing puncture on the tread. Talking with the support team about it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmonty View Post
    Do you happen to have measurements on the BLK dmnd casing 2.6 27.5 tire? Really curious.

    I have a 2.6" WTB Trail boss "light casing" on the rear right now. It's definitely 2.6+ at the knobs and ~ 2.5ish at the casing. Pretty quick rolling and supportive sidewalls, though I have already had non-sealing puncture on the tread. Talking with the support team about it now.
    Clean and sand the inside of the tire real good and install a vtr tubeless car tire patch
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmonty View Post
    Do you happen to have measurements on the BLK dmnd casing 2.6 27.5 tire? Really curious.
    I did not get a chance to measure or weigh it. I will measure before I take it out for a ride though. To me it also seems narrower than the butcher it replaced. Its definitely a tall tire

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_trail_biker View Post
    I really like the Eliminator as a rear tire. Grips well on technical climbs, brakes well, and corners fine for a rear tire. I am keeping a 2.5 DHF up front. Best combo I have had yet.
    That's good to hear. I just put a 2.6/27.5 Eliminator on the back of my bike with a 2.5 Vigilante in front. I can't wait to try it out on PNW slop.
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    Good job! Eliminator mud review update

    Quote Originally Posted by JMorvs View Post
    The only time I possibly see the Eliminator running into issues is with clay/muddy conditions because the knobs are closer together than the Butcher and Purgatory but since I haven't seen any mud or clay in nearly 9 months I have to shelve my opinions on the matter until I actually have one of substance!!
    I'm taking my muddy conditions prediction back... I installed a 2.6 29" BLK DMND Eliminator on the rear so now I've had almost two months riding in semi-muddy conditions and some wet terrain Oct-Nov. I'm pleasantly surprised at its ability to shed mud and the BLK DMND casing seems to grip better on wet roots and rocks as well!! While my companion was running tires with knob spacing considerably wider his tires didn't seem to have the grip I had w/the Eliminators, especially when side hilling slippery stuff. I thought I would have to put the Butcher back on for the winter but I'm sticking with the Eliminator until I find a reason to swap it out.
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