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    Specialized Butcher 2.8 Measurement?

    I am considering these on 40mm internal rims, anyone measure the actual width. If they are as big as Maxxis I will probably go with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I am considering these on 40mm internal rims, anyone measure the actual width. If they are as big as Maxxis I will probably go with them.

    After 1 ride and sitting overnight at 17psi on 40mm internal rims mine is measuring only 68mm. Not very wide but a good tire so far.
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    68mm, Interesting...

    Have you tried dhrii dd 2.7" or the 2.8" version, how does this 2.8" version of the butcher compare??
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    These are my first plus tires. I went with Butchers because the are 1/2 the price of Maxxis in Canada. My BB is a little low now, but that will only help cornering.
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    2nd ride on the Butchers and I'm impressed. Loads of grip and they seem to roll very well. I PR'd a mostly descending segment today even though there was snow on quite a bit of it.
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    Travis are these 29" or 27.5" tires? Have they grown more than the 68mm you reported originally?

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    29, and they are still 68mm. Really like em so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    29, and they are still 68mm. Really like em so far.
    Thanks. I'm thinking that if they run 68mm on 40mm rim I should be able to fit one on the rear of riot with a 35mm rim without any issues.

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    Did you weight them before mounting, curious what the true weight would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    After 1 ride and sitting overnight at 17psi on 40mm internal rims mine is measuring only 68mm. Not very wide but a good tire so far.
    68mm at the casing or knobs? Do you have a pic of them on your i40mm rims?

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    After a while they stretched to 69.5mm knob to knob.
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    I just put some on mine last night - 27.5+ version. I lost almost 3/4 pound going from the 3.0 Purgatory's. Traction is unbelievable! I nicknamed them the "Chainbreakers" because your chain will break before you lose traction climbing, lol. Cornering is spooky; you just lean the bike over and it is like its on a rail. I can carry way more speed into a corner and brake much less and still not break traction.

    Had a friend of mine switch out his 29er from Minion DHF 2.5 to a Butcher 2.6 in the front, and from a Minion DHR 2.4 to a Butcher 2.3 in the rear. He also said he has way more traction with Butcher combo than with the DHF/DHR combo. We also did a test down a fire road to see how fast they rolled, and the 2.8's rolled noticeably faster than his.

    I know this thread is about measurements - I pumped mine up to 35psi and I am going to let them sit for a day or two and let you know what I come up with. I think I just wanted to confirm that these tires are flippin awesome.
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    Had them aired up to 35psi for a few days, then went for a few rides at 18psi. Just checked at 30psi, and they measure 71mm knob to knob on 38mm rims.

    Having said that, I know Specialized brought their tire making in-house and almost all the new tires measure considerably less than the old tires. I might've just gotten some older 2.8's as the 2.6's are more popular around here.


    Here they are next to a 3.0 Purgatory.
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    Can you measure the overall height of the 27.5 x 2.8 Butcher?
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    717mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    717mm.
    Thanks!
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    Wait, so a 3.0 Purgatory is like a 2.4?

    I don't get it; what do manufacturers gain by mis-labeling tires?

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    Specialized tires are undersized per the labeling and it is misleading to say the least. I just purchased a Butcher GRID 29x2.6 and they measure out to be a 2.25. I emailed them and will pass along what they say, but in my opinion they should send out a new tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schril View Post
    Specialized tires are undersized per the labeling and it is misleading to say the least. I just purchased a Butcher GRID 29x2.6 and they measure out to be a 2.25. I emailed them and will pass along what they say, but in my opinion they should send out a new tire.
    I purchased a butcher grid 29 2.6. Mounted it up on a 30mm internal width rim @ 40 psi. After 24 hours it measure 2.39" casing and 2.35" at the knobs. I am sure once I dropped the pressure down normal riding pressure it would be close to 2.25-2.3. It's annoying to say the least to be that far off. I wish they'd do away with that iso measuring stuff and just print the tire size at normal pressures people run their tires. Last year I ran the 2.6 butcher grid on my 27.5 bike out front and it was an excellent tire. It measured 2.52 @ 25psi; so it was really close. I like it almost as much as the DHF 2.5 wt. Anyway, I returned the 29 butcher and going to try a dhf 2.5wt instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMeat View Post
    I purchased a butcher grid 29 2.6. Mounted it up on a 30mm internal width rim @ 40 psi. After 24 hours it measure 2.39" casing and 2.35" at the knobs. I am sure once I dropped the pressure down normal riding pressure it would be close to 2.25-2.3. It's annoying to say the least to be that far off. I wish they'd do away with that iso measuring stuff and just print the tire size at normal pressures people run their tires. Last year I ran the 2.6 butcher grid on my 27.5 bike out front and it was an excellent tire. It measured 2.52 @ 25psi; so it was really close. I like it almost as much as the DHF 2.5 wt. Anyway, I returned the 29 butcher and going to try a dhf 2.5wt instead.
    I have spoken with two Reps at Specialized and they both fed me a line of bs. Regardless, I am going to return it and get another brand of tire.

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