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    Roval Control Carbon vs. Control SL - Same Rim?

    Hello,

    I am currently riding a 2019 Specialized Epic Pro, and am considering a lighter weight wheelset. As measured, the Roval Control wheels that come on the bike are ~1690 grams - not featherweights. Of course, the spokes and hubs that come with that wheelset aren't exactly the lightest.

    One wheelset I am looking at is the Roval Control SL. From what I can tell, the rim profiles are identical, however I am wondering if the two wheelsets actually use the same rim (with the exception of the drilling, which is 28/28 on the Carbon's vs. 24/28 on the SL's).

    Before I tear down my existing Control Carbon wheels and lace the rims to lighter hubs/spokes, does anyone know if the rim is the same as the SL? Any experience with these would be helpful.

    For reference, here are links to the two wheelsets:

    Control Carbon: https://rovalcomponents.com/collecti...ontrol-carbon#

    Control SL: https://rovalcomponents.com/collecti...ol-sl-29-2017#

    Thanks!

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    [CITA = BTO10; 14420135]

    Hola,

    actualmente estoy montando una Epic Pro Specialized 2019 y estoy actualmente un juego de ruedas más liviano. Según lo medido, las ruedas Roval Control que vienen en la bicicleta son ~ 1690 gramos, sin pesas de plumas. Por supuesto, los radios y los cubos que vienen con ese juego de ruedas no son exactamente los más livianos.

    Un juego de ruedas que estoy viendo es el Roval Control SL. Por lo que puedo decir, los perfiles de las llantas son idénticos, sin embargo, me pregunto si los dos juegos de ruedas realmente usan la misma llanta (con la excepción de la perforación, que es 28/28 en el Carbon vs. 24 / 28 en el SL). .

    Antes de desmontar mis ruedas usadas de Control Carbon y encajar las llantas en cubos / radios más ligeros, ¿alguien sabe si la llanta es la misma que la SL? Cualquier experiencia con estos sería útil.

    Como referencia, aquí hay enlaces a los dos juegos de ruedas:

    Control Carbon: https://rovalcomponents.com/collecti...ontrol-carbon#

    Control SL: https://rovalcomponents.com/collections/xc/products / control -sl-29-2017 #

    ¡Gracias! [/ CITA]
    Hola, creo que es el mismo neumático, no especifica ningún tipo diferente de material, solo la diferencia de radios en el neumático delantero.
    ¿Qué radios y cubos montaste al final? ¿Qué peso se quedó?


    Tengo un Epic Expert 2020, que trae los mismos neumáticos que el Pro, pero con diferentes bujes. Pesan 940gr. la trasera, y 830gr. frente, total 1.770gr. Estaba hablando con un mecánico para irradiar los neumáticos, y él me dijo que colocaría un buje trasero DT Swiss 240, un buje delantero Extralite, radios Sapim CX Ray y cinta sin cámara, permanecerían por debajo de 1.400gr.


    Perdona mi pronunciación, pero uso el traductor de Google.
    Gracias

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    This is a great question. How much would it cost to rebuild the Roval Control Carbon rims with DT 240 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray spokes? And if you did, would the finished product really be under 1500 grams?

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    [CITA=Stonerider;14487513]Esta es una gran pregunta. ¿Cuánto costaría reconstruir las llantas Roval Control Carbon con bujes DT 240 y radios Sapim CX-Ray? Y si lo hiciera, ¿el producto final realmente estaría por debajo de los 1500 gramos?[/CITA]

    Le pedí a mi mecánico una cotización, y él me dijo que con los cubos DT Swiss delante y detrás, y las radios Sapim CX Ray, serían € 550. (610 $) y alrededor de 1,400gr.
    U otra opción seria, el buje trasero DT Swiss 240, el buje delantero Extralite y los radios Sapim CX Ray, serían € 650. (720 $) y menos de 1,400gr.
    Es la próxima mejora que quiero hacer a Epic, pero quiero asegurarme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonerider View Post
    This is a great question. How much would it cost to rebuild the Roval Control Carbon rims with DT 240 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray spokes? And if you did, would the finished product really be under 1500 grams?
    Sapim Lasers are a lot less expensive than the Rays($2/spoke) with the same specs.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPIM-LASER...o5mV9L71jJCUqg

    https://www.bikehubstore.com/product-p/force.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTO10 View Post
    Hola,

    actualmente estoy montando una Epic Pro Specialized 2019 y estoy considerando un juego de ruedas más liviano. Según lo medido, las ruedas Roval Control que vienen en la bicicleta son ~ 1690 gramos, no pesas de plumas. Por supuesto, los radios y los cubos que vienen con ese juego de ruedas no son exactamente los más livianos.

    Un juego de ruedas que estoy viendo es el Roval Control SL. Por lo que puedo decir, los perfiles de las llantas son idénticos, sin embargo, me pregunto si los dos juegos de ruedas realmente usan la misma llanta (con la excepción de la perforación, que es 28/28 en el Carbon vs. 24/28 en el SL). .

    Antes de desmontar mis ruedas existentes de Control Carbon y anclar las llantas a bujes / radios más ligeros, ¿alguien sabe si la llanta es la misma que la SL? Cualquier experiencia con estos sería útil.

    Como referencia, aquí hay enlaces a los dos juegos de ruedas:

    Control Carbon: https://rovalcomponents.com/collecti...ontrol-carbon#

    Control SL: https://rovalcomponents.com/collections/xc/products/control -sl-29-2017 #

    ¡Gracias!

    Did you change the wheels in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTO10 View Post
    Hello,

    I am currently riding a 2019 Specialized Epic Pro, and am considering a lighter weight wheelset. As measured, the Roval Control wheels that come on the bike are ~1690 grams - not featherweights. Of course, the spokes and hubs that come with that wheelset aren't exactly the lightest.

    One wheelset I am looking at is the Roval Control SL. From what I can tell, the rim profiles are identical, however I am wondering if the two wheelsets actually use the same rim (with the exception of the drilling, which is 28/28 on the Carbon's vs. 24/28 on the SL's).

    Before I tear down my existing Control Carbon wheels and lace the rims to lighter hubs/spokes, does anyone know if the rim is the same as the SL? Any experience with these would be helpful.

    For reference, here are links to the two wheelsets:

    Control Carbon: https://rovalcomponents.com/collecti...ontrol-carbon#

    Control SL: https://rovalcomponents.com/collecti...ol-sl-29-2017#

    Thanks!
    The rims are about the same weight with the front Control Carbon rim being a few grams heavier than the front Control SL rim.

    -SD

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    What is the weight of the Roval Carbon rim (not SL)? I have the stock set from an Epic Expert and am thinking about having them rebuilt with DT Swiss 240s or 350s and lighter double-butted spokes. Wondering if I can get the weight down to around 1500g.

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    Just switching from DT Swiss Competition spokes to Sapim CX-Ray spokes will save you 47 grams per wheel...or 94 grams for the wheelset. if you also switch the hub to DT Swiss 240 you'll be at 1500 grams or just slightly below it if the stock Roval Carbon's are 1610 grams.

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    Sorry, major delay on my response! After doing some calculations, I figured getting to the 1500gram mark would be tough - even with DT Swiss 240 hubs and Sapim Laser spokes. So, I ended up buying Light Bicycle 25mm internal Flyweight rims and building them. They came out to about 1270grams w/ DT Swiss hubs and Sapim spokes. Some pictures here:

    https://www.instagram.com/bto1010/

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