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    ONE tire for every bike, every trail, every condition....for all time

    Pretty simple stuff here:

    If you were forced to choose ONE model of tire that have to use for the remainder of your days, as both a front AND back tire, on whatever or every bike you own in every imaginable condition....what tire are you going to choose?

    My choice: 2.35 Schwalbe Nobby Nic's
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    Panaracer Smoke Oh yeaaaaaah!
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    I use to love Specialized Captain control tires in 2.3. I havenít found anything I like as much as them.

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    Same here. My experiences with tires aren't that extensive...but out of the ones I've tried...I'd choose the 2.35 NN as an all rounder. They are also really common and you can find them on sale somewhere for pretty cheap.

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    Maybe something like the Compass/Rene Herse Juniper Ridge (650b x 48 knobby). I need something that works well on pavement and off road.
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    Maxxis Minions.

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    29x2.4 DHR2 EXO+

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    Goma 2.4 front and Nobby Nick 2.35 rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy3220 View Post
    29x2.4 DHR2 EXO+
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    K2, I donít like the question. People are partial to what works on their local trails. Different soil conditions everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    K2, I donít like the question. People are partial to what works on their local trails. Different soil conditions everywhere.
    Enough of that DJ!! State your tire choice please.

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    DHF

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    Hmmmm...Iím torn between the following in 27.5:

    Pick: Minion DHRII 27.5 in 2.4

    Honorable mention: Minion DHF II 27.5

    I ride the east coast and have a strong bias towards gravity-esque riding endeavors. My guess is that if my riding biosphere was of the desert variety or XC-heavy Iíd probably pick something else...

    Itís hard to give up the cornering of the DHF, but the DHRII is a little more weíll rounded in the climbing/braking department. Iím glad that outside of this little excercise I can have the best of both worlds .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir kayakalot View Post
    Enough of that DJ!! State your tire choice please.
    No!

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    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    will be in the minority here, but I would go with the Continental Trail Kings if I could get them in 29x3...on my 26er, I always felt like they did great on everything here in Ohio

    i still like to ride them on the single track around here on my 26, and they are ok for when I ride the paved rec trails with my wife....they are very "Soft" even when pumped up a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    Panaracer Smoke Oh yeaaaaaah!
    I was surprised to discover that Smokes and Darts are still being manufactured...Let the 90s roll!

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    My current setup works really well for me, a WTB Trail Boss 2.4 rear tire and a Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 front. Even though the WTB tire is a 2.4, it is definitely a little smaller than the 2.35 Schwalbe which tend to run a little bigger than their listed size
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    Quote Originally Posted by str8edgMTBMXer View Post
    will be in the minority here, but I would go with the Continental Trail Kings if I could get them in 29x3...on my 26er, I always felt like they did great on everything here in Ohio

    i still like to ride them on the single track around here on my 26, and they are ok for when I ride the paved rec trails with my wife....they are very "Soft" even when pumped up a bit
    ditto on conti trail kings

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    Conti Trail Kings are great if you want to leave a trail of rubbber chunks everywhere you go an replace them after three rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    Dhf
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    That was too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shartist View Post
    Hmmmm...Iím torn between the following in 27.5:

    Pick: Minion DHRII 27.5 in 2.4

    Honorable mention: Minion DHF II 27.5

    I ride the east coast and have a strong bias towards gravity-esque riding endeavors. My guess is that if my riding biosphere was of the desert variety or XC-heavy Iíd probably pick something else...

    Itís hard to give up the cornering of the DHF, but the DHRII is a little more weíll rounded in the climbing/braking department. Iím glad that outside of this little excercise I can have the best of both worlds .
    Yeah, the DHRII clearly wins out on DH braking with its paddle like knobs. But unless I ring true DH lift assist our regular trails, while very challenging, are just not that steep. So I like the higher volume and maybe faster roll of the DHF.

    I'm about to give a DHRII a try up front though. A wt 2.4 in a 3C in a 120 tpsi casing. Theory is in this application, for a liter duty bike, the dhr is a bit less burly than the DHF and the 120 tpsi casing I think feels nicer u front. Better traction in our slimy trails. We'll see how it goes.

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    Vittoria Goma. 2.25 non tnt for the xc bikes, 2.6 TNT for the All Mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    Conti Trail Kings are great if you want to leave a trail of rubbber chunks everywhere you go an replace them after three rides.
    With the 2018 and newer compound? I have a 2.6 on the way for the front.

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    Assegai EXO+ or Magic Mary SG

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    Either DHR2 or DHF.
    I'ts funny I don't run either and have pretty much moved away from maxxis but If I had to run 1 tire both front and rear that changes things and would most likely be the DHF.

    * Just getting some SE5 time in & that's a contender too. The SE casing is phenomenal
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    who makes Bontrager's MTB tires? it's not vittoria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisgah View Post
    I was surprised to discover that Smokes and Darts are still being manufactured...Let the 90s roll!

    https://panaracerusa.com/product/smoke-dart-mtb-tire/
    well yeah, that's how I'm still rolling on them! Have a few sets... well smokes, never like the darts.

    Disclaimer, I don;t think they work as well as new tyres, I've been running my fav conti raceking racesport for afew years, but have just switched to michelin force (AM F/XC R) which I like more.

    But I like Smokes as they are rugged, they do OK everywhere, rarely get a flat of any sort, tractor like in mud, great in dirt, grippy ish on rocks and still work for gravel. Not the best by far, but I can rely on them to work the same everywhere.
    And they're cool...
    And come in 26...
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    Quote Originally Posted by distortion10 View Post
    Goma 2.4 front and Nobby Nick 2.35 rear.

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    I guess I'd just go forekaster F/REAR. They work well for me in front, so I'd just take the higher rolling resistance and gain some traction up the loose stuff. Fair trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Jeff View Post
    My current setup works really well for me, a WTB Trail Boss 2.4 rear tire and a Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 front. Even though the WTB tire is a 2.4, it is definitely a little smaller than the 2.35 Schwalbe which tend to run a little bigger than their listed size
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    Minion DHF/DHRII

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    Quote Originally Posted by matadorCE View Post
    Minion DHF/DHRII
    Which one?

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    Bonti 2.4 SE4

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    If I had to run them BOTH front and rear? I'd probably go with either the new 2.35 Hans D, a 2.4 XR4, or a 2.4 Nevegal 2. All those tires grip well while still rolling reasonably fast.

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    DHR II 29 2.4 for a trail/am bike
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    NoNi 29x2.35 Addix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
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    This would be my choice as well... all you people picking Minions are insane. Those things roll like you're stuck in peanut butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schulze View Post
    With the 2018 and newer compound? I have a 2.6 on the way for the front.
    It's been a few years, but Conti dug themselves a deep hole with their MTB tires' reputation for falling apart easily. Hopefully the new ones are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleSpeedSteven View Post
    This would be my choice as well... all you people picking Minions are insane. Those things roll like you're stuck in peanut butter.
    Barzo was the last Ďnon-plusí tire I ran before moving to 3.0s in 2017. It worked really well, but It got 2 holes in probably 150 miles. One in the tread so bad I had to tube up, but fixed at home, and another sidewall rip that retired the tire. I think it was on for 5-6 rides.

    Personally, Iíll take Ďrolling in peanut butterí over trail-side tubing every day. Some places are just not friendly to tires. Itís kinda miserable having to ride 1000g tires.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    ditto on conti trail kings

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    DHRII - I would have said Trail King but the casings never lasted very long for me.

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    Fun question.

    #1 No-brainer: 29x2.4 Maxxis DHR II.

    Honorable mentions: New Conti Trail King 2.4. Or Bontrager SE4, but that's a distant third as I don't really care for it up front.
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    Magic Mary 2.6. I can always grow bigger legs but I can't grow more traction.

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    I don't know of any tires available in 29, 20 and 700c....
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    Quite a few people here that need some lessons in Reading Comprehension!! LOL


    I will add to the Vittoria list, GOMA 2.4 TNT, been my go-to trail tire for YEARS now. Wear like iron, great grip and setup easily tubeless. Looks like Vittoria may be doing some improvements to it as they have removed it from the lineup this year. Sure that with the new Graphene 2.0 and 4C compounds it needed some rework. And I have run it in Tahoe Loam, Northern NV High Desert, Cali hardpack, sand and volcanic garbage and then Front Range of CO without any issues.

    One gripe I have about them, and really is all Vittoria tires, is they don't always play nice with certain bead seat types. My WTB i29 Asym rims were probably the best I have dealt with but Stans, DT Swiss and Bontrager rims they have always been SERIOUSLY tight.

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    The current Goma 2.4 iteration is the perfect rear tire for my bike. I just bought one TNT and two e-goma TNT G+ to stock up for a while. If they make it a better front tire, I'll use that too!

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    Ikon 2.35.

    Fast enough to enjoy smooth trails, grippy enough for scary trails.
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    Bontrager xr2. Comes in sizes that work on my cross check, 1x1, and stache. I prefer something more aggro up front on the mtbs but compromises must be made.
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    Haven't actually tried them in the front, but probably Minion DHR II WTs.

    If I lived somewhere wetter, Magic Mary. I ran that F/R over the winter and it was fantastic.

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    DHF. I can deal with different tires in the rear, but I will not give up my DHF in the front.
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    We should include where/what part of the country we're riding. Would give the tire choice thing more context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    We should include where/what part of the country we're riding. Would give the tire choice thing more context.
    This. Otherwise it's an exercise in futility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltspd1 View Post
    This. Otherwise it's an exercise in futility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykel View Post
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    That was too easy.
    Agreed
    Agreed again!
    They just work so well for a variety of situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    We should include where/what part of the country we're riding. Would give the tire choice thing more context.
    Isn't the idea of this thread is a single tire that works any where? A tire that has the versatility to be adequate on any trail type, fast and flowy, slippey and wet, to dry and loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    A tire that has the versatility to be adequate on any trail type, fast and flowy, slippey and wet, to dry and loose.
    What tire is that?

    No, you're right & I like the concept/this thread. It's just reading the responses my curiosity of what works for some posters becomes location/conditions dependent. It's fun to read through and think...crikey, that tire wouldn't last 5 miles here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    We should include where/what part of the country we're riding. Would give the tire choice thing more context.
    Everywhere.
    XC/Gravel/Enduro/Trekking on all surfaces.

    Still Ikon 2.35

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post

    Still Ikon 2.35
    Enduro? I think not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    Enduro? I think not.
    DHR for XC, gravel, trekking? I think not.

    I've done Enduro on them and won the climbs.

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    If I had to pick one it would be the Maxxis HR2 in 3C. It has great traction everywhere and I'll just pedal more on the smooth stuff.

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    DHF or Magic Mary. Butcher or DHR2 would probably work for me too, but I don't have trail time on them.

    Despite riding quite a bit on roads and fireroads to get to the trails, I'd rather have the traction when I need it. I can cope with slow rolling if I have to, I can't cope with being unable to ride a challenging part of the trail because I don't trust my tyres.

    My actual current setup is MM front, trail boss rear. It's a happy compromise that only sucks on very steep & loose terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    We should include where/what part of the country we're riding. Would give the tire choice thing more context.
    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    Isn't the idea of this thread is a single tire that works any where? A tire that has the versatility to be adequate on any trail type, fast and flowy, slippey and wet, to dry and loose.
    That's why I would choose Kenda Nevegals in this case. Not the best for all of those conditions, but in my opinion the best jack of all trades. It's not my choice these days for daily riding, but I don't ride all of those conditions every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    Enduro? I think not.
    I too am still on a Ikon 2.35.

    Not saying it is the best tire made. But as a single tire, I can ride it anywhere and not really feel that I am at a significant disadvantage.

    I haven't ridden them yet, but I think the Recon 2.4s might even be a better all around tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post

    I haven't ridden them yet, but I think the Recon 2.4s might even be a better all around tire.
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    I haven't ridden them either but would second that. I have ridden icons and they are just a tire that's not on my radar, same with NN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    I haven't ridden them either but would second that. I have ridden icons and they are just a tire that's not on my radar, same with NN.
    What kind of bike are you on?

    I think bike type makes a big difference. On an XC bike a 2.35 Ikon is a grippy tire, on a trail bike not so much.
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    DHF...I can't wait until they make a 700cX33c dhf ....ever?

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    I think I would do 2.6 Forekasters F/R

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    What kind of bike are you on?

    I think bike type makes a big difference. On an XC bike a 2.35 Ikon is a grippy tire, on a trail bike not so much.
    Exactly. The ikon on an xc bike is a great all rounder. Big volume, flat protection, strong sidewalls, grip, and rolls well. If you buy one set of tires for everything, which includes racing, training, or just riding along this is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMatt View Post
    who makes Bontrager's MTB tires? it's not vittoria.
    Remember how there was a delay on some of them in 2017 due to a "fire at the plant"?

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    so who else does that private label make tires for i wonder. specialized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Exactly. The ikon on an xc bike is a great all rounder. Big volume, flat protection, strong sidewalls, grip, and rolls well. If you buy one set of tires for everything, which includes racing, training, or just riding along this is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Everywhere.
    XC/Gravel/Enduro/Trekking on all surfaces.

    Still Ikon 2.35
    The Ikon is a good tire for XC, I have used them for that and they work well. But as the OP has stated, for EVERY bike and condition, the Ikon is not durable enough. I tried running one in the rear of my Nomad 3 and destroyed it when I got to a fast gnarly section of the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danny.mendes View Post
    The Ikon is a good tire for XC, I have used them for that and they work well. But as the OP has stated, for EVERY bike and condition, the Ikon is not durable enough. I tried running one in the rear of my Nomad 3 and destroyed it when I got to a fast gnarly section of the trail.
    Well they do make it in Double Down.
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    Vittoria Morsa = incredible

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnybex View Post
    Vittoria Morsa = incredible
    Morsa is good, fast rollling, long-lasting, durable , but nowhere near as confidence-inspiring as DHF. especially with moisture. it simply does not work on wet surfaces.

    durometer and casing are harddd. as a daily, do-everything, it's not a bad option though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    Well they do make it in Double Down.
    Yeahbut why?
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    If the Morsa had a bit more volume and something like Barzo center tread it would be a KILLER tire and a quiver killer indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    Yeahbut why?
    I have one on the back of my XC bike, I kept killing exo's in the rocks.

    No way in hell I'd run an Ikon on my enduro bike though, that's crazy talk.

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    Michelin Wild AM 2.35". Rolls decently fast, grips well in everything from wet slop to hardpack, and the casings don't get wobbles in them when I do stupid stuff like landing my bike sideways or slamming into ruts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Train Wreck View Post
    DHF...I can't wait until they make a 700cX33c dhf ....ever?
    I would scoop that up in a heartbeat in a 700x40ish - Love it in 2.3 flavor on my trail bike.

    In serious response to the OP, I would go WTB Resolute 700x42c. I like doing things the hard way. Super fast on every surface I've ridden on, comfy for a "skinnish" tire, and grip like no-ones business. If they made a 2.4 I would have them on my trail bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Train Wreck View Post
    DHF...I can't wait until they make a 700cX33c dhf ....ever?

    Maxxis 2.5 DHF. ALL THE WAY. Makes a beginner feel like a pro. And it's not even that bad on pavement. I still have it on the back, frigging tire is lasting forever. Probably 1500 miles on it by now. Knobs that don't quit. Bullet proof.

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    In my case one tire would include winter riding in the snow. I've always felt that if I could only have one bike it would be fat, so probably 26x4 45NRTH VanHelga.
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    I'd say the DHF is winning by a long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    Yeahbut why?
    Personally, if I am doing a pedal heavy enduro I would take an Ikon on the Rear over a Minion SS. To be honest, I do not find a lot of grip difference on the rear between an Ikon and an Aggressor but the Ikon is a fair bit faster.
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    I'd probably run Forekaster 2.35. I might be the only person who finds the Ikons don't actually roll faster than the Forekasters - it's probably in my head but I feel slow on the Ikons. I have a 2.2 Ikon on the back right now and it's ok, but doesn't feel great. I have a set of 2.35 Ikons that I put on from time to time, and they just feel so slow to me - I'm sure it's just in my head, but I can't get it out of my head. I'm gonna put them back on right away simply because I need to wear them out somehow - I think they are shockingly good on the DH for a low profile tire though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    I'd say the DHF is winning by a long shot.
    Maxxis figured it out, just look at all the copy cats

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    Have to go overkill for some areas. The NobbyNics donít cut it in parts of the mountain west and Appalachia.

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    I thought of this while riding today; while thinking about how I'm looking forward to having another wheelset soon, I realized Ive only been able to afford one wheelset and set of tires. So by default, I have lived this thread - which is why my choice has been DHF 3C.

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    Two rides in and maybe its newphoria, but the XR4s are phenomenal without being too draggy.

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