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    New Carbonfan Wheels

    I just received my new wheelset from Carbonfan.com. I am participating in their customer review plan and received a discount on the wheelset. That being said I'll do my best to provide as honest and impartial review. Check out the pictures below and the Youtube video I made here. This review is just for unboxing and setting up the wheelset. Ride review to come at a later date.

    Wheelset Details:
    29" Carbonfan XY Asymmetric Rims - 29mm internal/35mm external width, 28H
    DT Swiss 350 Boost, straight pull, centerlock
    Sapim CX Ray and black aluminum nipples
    Weight: 676g (F) + 782g (R) = 1458g (without tape/valves)
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    Additional Thoughts:
    I emailed with Carbonfan all of my questions and Nathan was very good about answering every question.
    Bike is a large Pivot Mach 429 Trail.
    I had a difficult time deciding between 26mm and 29mm internal width rims for my Specialized Purgatory (F) and Ground Control (R) tires, both 29"x2.3". I decided on the 29mm IW because Specialized specifies 29/30mm IW rims for their trail bikes with the same size tires. My previous wheels were DT Swiss Spline M1700 which were 22.5 IW. The increase in volume with the new rims are pretty noticable and the casing width increased from 2.2" to 2.3".
    I wasn't able to weigh the rims individually but I calculated the rims to average about 411g each using published weights of the hubs/spokes/nipples.
    Initial quality seems good. I didn't see anything that made me concerned about the riding the wheels.
    I placed my order through the Carbonfan website and provided feedback to help make the process more straightforward.
    It took some time for the wheels to finally ship and delivery time was about a week. Shipping cost was included in the price of the wheels.
    The decals on the rims are removable for those who prefer a stealth look.
    I can't speak to the durability of the rim but it seems pretty robust. No tools were necessary to put the tires on and both aired up with a floor pump. The beads clearly popped into place.

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    thank you, looking forward to see your feedback later.

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    subscribed as also keen to hear feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoao View Post
    thank you, looking forward to see your feedback later.
    Is your customer review plan still looking for additional participants? I might be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaalgorn View Post
    Is your customer review plan still looking for additional participants? I might be interested.
    hi Bhaalgorn, would you please send us mail at info@carbonfan.com .

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    First Ride Impressions

    So I was able to get a first ride on the new wheels and Iím happy to report that I was impressed with their performance. Bike setup was the same except for the new wheels and slightly reduced tire pressures. Old wheelset was DT Swiss Spline Two M1700: aluminum, 22.5mm internal width, DT Spline hubs with 28 DT Competition straight pull spokes and centerlock; New wheelset is Carbonfan XY AM: carbon, 29mm internal width, DT 350 hubs with 28 Sapim CX Ray straight pull spokes and centerlock. Wheelsets are similar except for differences in the rim and spokes.

    The ride was approximately 12 mile loop with 1800í of climbing according to my Garmin Edge 500 computer. Itís a trail Iíve ridden lots of times so Iím familiar with the sections of the trail that are challenging for me. The trail I rode was mostly dirt singletrack with some exposed roots but not really rocky. Throughout the ride, three characteristics seemed to be the most noticeable to me as described below.

    Increased traction: Just that. The combination of wider rim and lower tire pressure results in a larger contact patch between tire and trail resulting in increased traction. I had plenty of climbing traction and never felt the rear tire slip, even when I thought it might.

    Increased sidewall support: I was concerned that riding such low pressure (18 psi F, 20 psi R) would result in tire squirm but I didnít experience that. Granted my tires are Specialized Grid casing so they do offer increased sidewall support. The tires felt more stable in off-camber sections of the trail where I normally would exercise some caution. Also the bike felt like it was more stable cornering at speed.

    Increased stiffness: I noticed a more distinct transfer of power to the wheels from the cranks. DW Link bikes already exhibit this trait but I seemed more pronounced with the carbon wheelset. This could also be attributed to the decreased rotating mass of the carbon rims. I also remember some pretty brake-rutted sections of the trail where the wheels held their line admirably well, probably better than my aluminum wheelset would have. While stiffer, I didnít feel the rims were overly stiff. In fact the ride quality on the new wheelset felt pretty normal. Increased tire volume and lower pressures probably helped in this area.

    I realize my observations are probably typical when going from a narrower aluminum rim to a wider carbon. Furthermore, I donít have any quantifiable data corroborating my experiences. I am only relaying my perceptions of the differences in my bike's handling that specific day, while riding a trail I was familiar with, changing only the wheelset and tire pressures. Your mileage may vary.

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    this is the most value able review We have never seen, we have translated this and send to ours engineer team actually. hope You enjoy your riding all the time .

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    looks like auburn, thanks for the review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoao View Post
    this is the most value able review We have never seen, we have translated this and send to ours engineer team actually. hope You enjoy your riding all the time .
    Happy to hear you found my review valuable. Thank you for offering a nice product at a competitive price point! I'm enjoying the new wheels so far and am looking forward to putting more miles on them! I'll provide updates with how the wheels are holding up after more extended miles. Sorry you hadn't seen my review. I thought you might have been subscribed to the thread since you posted here prior. Let me know if you have any questions.

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    looks like auburn, thanks for the review!
    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review. Yep, Foresthill Divide.

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    This is timely as I received a set of Carbonfan wheels myself recently. Not part of the customer review plan, did not know they had that, but here's my short term review. Ordered 27.5 XY asym wheels, 34id/40od to run 2.8 tires on my Canfield EPO. Went with Hope Pro4 hubs and Pillar bladed spokes. I came up with about 1600g just ballparking weights on their website and wheelset came in actual at 1616g so that was impressive. Got regular AM layup and not the DH version.

    Delivery time was 2.5 weeks from order and arrived well packaged and undamaged. The wheel build is spot on and perfectly true. I requested 3x vs standard 2x build which they did. The included tape fit perfect and mounted up Maxxis Rekon 2.8's with zero problems, Beads seated in with a reassuring pop. Aired up to 35 PSI and rolled around to spread the sealant, checked the next day and still holding.

    I've got 100 ish miles now through rocky AZ terrain with minor jumps and drops, they have been perfect thus far. No pops, pings, flex or other unwanted stuff and still perfectly true. Very solid performance and hard to beat the price.

    I did have an issue getting system emails from them (no order confirmation or shipping notice) but Nathan answered my queries very promptly an apologized for the email issue. One suggestion I have is to include manufacturer instructions for whatever hub is chosen if possible. I ran into an issue mounting SRAM XD cassette and had to go to Hopeís website to figure out the end cap has to come off to tighten down. Never ran Hope hubs so wasnít aware but helpful if the instructions had come with the wheels.

    Iíll report back longer term but so far so good and would not hesitate to buy from them again.

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    Nice review. Thanks for sharing!

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    It was time for me to get another wheelset - and these intrigued me. I currently have bikes on LB carbon wheelsets, DT swiss 1501 spline wheelsets for comparison.

    The setup I went for from Carbonfan is as follows:

    27.5 XY asymmetric rims, 35mm od / 29mm id, 28 holes
    mounted up onto DT swiss 240s 100/142 6 bolt straight pull hubs
    pillar spokes and brass nipples

    Selecting the configuration on their website was fairly straightforward - except their automatic weight estimator was not functioning - not a big deal, but it warranted an email to see what their customer service was all about.

    Email sent, and Nathan responded in a timely fashion (especially considering time differences between Canada and China. He provided the approx weights of my items and was looking at 1200g total - alarm bells going off, no way it could be that light. Re-checked and only one rim had been calculated in - I need both!

    So estimated weight was then reset at 1450 (ish) g.

    Price looked good, and shipping from China to Vancouver was included.

    A few more emails, back and forth, and I was willing to place the order now button on the 16th of May. Paypal order went smooth, and then I waited.

    I knew it would take a bit of time - "custom" build and shipping, plus getting through Canadian customs.

    By the 4th of June, I still had not heard anything about the build/wheels being shipped. So I sent another email to Nathan - he responded within an hour, advising that the wheels had been shipped a few days before - and he then provided me with a tracking number. For some reason their automated system failed to send me the tracking number ahead of time - No harm, no foul, and the wheels appeared on my doorstep on the 6th of June.

    I did have to pay $60 taxes to the Canadian government - That is no fault of Carbonfan, and like death, taxes are unavoidable.

    The wheels arrived fully intact, and I am very satisfied with the initial quality of both the wheelbuild, and the apparent quality of the carbon rims. Into the truing stand - they are running true / no hopping, dished properly, and spoke tension on all spokes was checked with satisfactory results. The bladed spokes gave no indication of spoke windup during the build process.

    Wheelset weight, with no rim tape and no valves came to 770g rear, 669g front - 1439g total.


    Now for the bad news - I am going to be out of town for the next few days, and am not going to be able to test ride these until mid next week. I hate having shiny new parts waiting to be used.

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    Nice! Please provide your thoughts once you're able to ride them. I'm curious how they compare to your other wheelsets.

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    Finally had a chance to get a ride in on the carbonfans.

    Did a 15 km loop out my backyard on the hardtail with the XM1501 spline wheelset, back home, swapped the carbonfan wheelset onto the same bike , and did the same 15km loop.

    Same model / size of tires (carbonfans had brand new rubber on them). Immediately noticed the rotational mass of the carbonfan rear wheel being a bit lighter - for certain it spins up a bit easier (not huge amounts) - more noticeable on smooth surfaces then on tech climb.

    On rough decents, I notice either the carbonfan wheelset being stiffer, or maybe I need to run a bit less tire pressure as the bike seemed to skip around / deflect off stuff more then the XM1501 wheelset did. Maybe I was more tired and that was it.

    I am going to do the same thing on Sunday, except will run the carbonfan wheelset first.

    Did not hear any spokes making noises during the ride. Re-checked the tensions, and they were all where they were from when I unpacked the box. Am happy with the product so far. Next weekend I will probably migrate the wheelset to the FS bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    ...On rough decents, I notice either the carbonfan wheelset being stiffer, or maybe I need to run a bit less tire pressure as the bike seemed to skip around / deflect off stuff more then the XM1501 wheelset did. ...
    When I switched from 21mm IW rims to 29mm IW Carbonfan wheels I had to drop tire pressures a pound or two to get the same ride quality, which I attributed the the wider effective tire width with the wider rims.
    Do the math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Rager View Post
    When I switched from 21mm IW rims to 29mm IW Carbonfan wheels I had to drop tire pressures a pound or two to get the same ride quality, which I attributed the the wider effective tire width with the wider rims.
    I am not entirely convinced on this as I have done a comparison between the XM1501 wheelset and a easton arc30 wheelset - and did not have the same experience that I have had between the xm1501 and the carbonfans.

    It could be that the lighter wheelset does not plow through stuff the same way (gets deflected off of objects more) or it could be that the carbon wheelset is stiffer and instead of absorbing the impacts it is deflecting slightly?

    Either way, it is not a deal breaker - more a matter of adjusting tire pressure and / or suspension settings slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmanxj View Post
    This is timely as I received a set of Carbonfan wheels myself recently. Not part of the customer review plan, did not know they had that, but here's my short term review. Ordered 27.5 XY asym wheels, 34id/40od to run 2.8 tires on my Canfield EPO. Went with Hope Pro4 hubs and Pillar bladed spokes. I came up with about 1600g just ballparking weights on their website and wheelset came in actual at 1616g so that was impressive. Got regular AM layup and not the DH version.

    Delivery time was 2.5 weeks from order and arrived well packaged and undamaged. The wheel build is spot on and perfectly true. I requested 3x vs standard 2x build which they did. The included tape fit perfect and mounted up Maxxis Rekon 2.8's with zero problems, Beads seated in with a reassuring pop. Aired up to 35 PSI and rolled around to spread the sealant, checked the next day and still holding.

    I've got 100 ish miles now through rocky AZ terrain with minor jumps and drops, they have been perfect thus far. No pops, pings, flex or other unwanted stuff and still perfectly true. Very solid performance and hard to beat the price.

    I did have an issue getting system emails from them (no order confirmation or shipping notice) but Nathan answered my queries very promptly an apologized for the email issue. One suggestion I have is to include manufacturer instructions for whatever hub is chosen if possible. I ran into an issue mounting SRAM XD cassette and had to go to Hopeís website to figure out the end cap has to come off to tighten down. Never ran Hope hubs so wasnít aware but helpful if the instructions had come with the wheels.

    Iíll report back longer term but so far so good and would not hesitate to buy from them again.
    What size was the perfect fitting included tape?

    I ordered wheels with the same same OD40/ID34 rims but didn't order the tubeless tape.
    I have 24 mm tape at home but wonder if I should get something wider or get the tape from Carbonfan....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    I am not entirely convinced on this as I have done a comparison between the XM1501 wheelset and a easton arc30 wheelset - and did not have the same experience that I have had between the xm1501 and the carbonfans.

    It could be that the lighter wheelset does not plow through stuff the same way (gets deflected off of objects more) or it could be that the carbon wheelset is stiffer and instead of absorbing the impacts it is deflecting slightly?

    Either way, it is not a deal breaker - more a matter of adjusting tire pressure and / or suspension settings slightly.
    Going to a 29mm iw rim gives your tires sidewalls more support so they don't foldover anymore when you hit a rock in a corner. The sidewall just crinkles. This means you can run less air pressure and get more traction and more bump compliance. You can go down to just above where the worst spot on your ride creates rim hits.

    So the point is you should forget how your old wheelset felt. Push the new one farther and you'll still be ok. But with a lot more traction and slower slide-out with time to recover. You can use that traction better with a faster rolling smaller shorter knob tire.

    Try 16 front and 19-20 rear. Get a gauge and pack a hand pump for testing. My front was still holding at 11psi by mistake. In fact it had the best cornering traction but the rim hits were the limiting factor.

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    On the site I see the description of rims available includes 65mm, 55mm, 50mm outer width I presume. So likely 59mm, 49mm and 44mm. I can't find those sizes. 29 preferably. 27.5 and 26 for others.
    In the wheel build section I'd like to see Sapim Laser spokes instead of or in addition to the CX Rays. Lasers could be used at no extra cost instead of $120 upcharge and they are the same specs as the CX Rays, just not flattened. I'd like to see Sapim brass Polyax nipples. Aluminum for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjaakoo View Post
    What size was the perfect fitting included tape?

    I ordered wheels with the same same OD40/ID34 rims but didn't order the tubeless tape.
    I have 24 mm tape at home but wonder if I should get something wider or get the tape from Carbonfan....
    I believe their tape is 25mm, but I'm not near home right now to confirm. Just has to cover the spoke holes and sit down in the middle channel so if yours does that should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmanxj View Post
    I believe their tape is 25mm, but I'm not near home right now to confirm. Just has to cover the spoke holes and sit down in the middle channel so if yours does that should be good.
    So their tape doesn't cover the whole inside of the rim, only the middle channel?

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    IDK about their tape, but that's what I do with my tape, just cover the holes.
    Do the math.

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    I was also planning just to cover the holes but was told by some people to cover the whole inside of the rim if nessecary with two layers..

    When you are waiting for your new wheels you think to much about these things.

    I mailed Nathan info@carbonfan.com and he said they use 27mm for the 34ID rim

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    Sorry our store www.carbonfan.com need to make the description more specific.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoao View Post
    Sorry our store www.carbonfan.com need to make the description more specific.
    So what's the answer for the 65mm, 55mm, 50mm rims. Which I assume are 59mm, 49mm and 44mm inner rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    So what's the answer for the 65mm, 55mm, 50mm rims. Which I assume are 59mm, 49mm and 44mm inner rims.
    yes you are right . The inner width is 6mm less then outer width .

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    So what's the answer for the 65mm, 55mm, 50mm rims. Which I assume are 59mm, 49mm and 44mm inner rims.
    I could't find any 65mm, 55mm, 50mm rims on the carbonfan website,

    Can you give us a link?

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    You mean the out wider is 65mm,55mm,50mm rims? that would be fat wheels. right? We will update fat wheel soon

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    Actually those sizes work for 29 and 27.5 Plus tires 2.8" to 3.25" wide that are available now with other new tires coming out often. And 2.6" 29 tires are now coming to market that could use a 49 or 44mm inner width rim depending on the tire roundness profile. Asymmetrical rims like the versions you now offer only wider would be the way to go.

    This is from your website.-

    "Talking about MTB carbon rims, we cannot imagine where on earth in the world, or in China if to be somehow modest, can make out such a lots rims with different size (29er, 650B, 26er), and with different width (65mm, 55mm, 50mm, 45mm, 40mm, 38mm, 35mm, 27mm...), and with normal and asymmetric shapes. Here, itís just the real origin of carbon mountain rims. Believe us, people can find every size and every shape in this city, except that you wanna find a "square" rim instead of round one. It's called CITY OF RIMS. Every month, more than 20,000 rims (mountain and road ones) come out of this city. CARBONFAN rims are in them, too, of course.

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    Any update on those wider rims on your site, Shoao? That's the listed 65, 60 and 55mm rims.

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    @eb1888 hi, We did update our system now we have

    https://www.carbonfan.com/2017-carbo...mm-height-25mm


    https://www.carbonfan.com/2017-carbo...mm-height-25mm

    those two designs available for MTB biker

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    I received my Carbonfan wheelset 2 days after they sent me an email that it was shipped.
    It took 23 days from ordering till receiving my new wheels, not bad.
    I ordered :
    DtSwiss 350 Straight Pull Front not Boost 15x100 back boost 148x12 SramXX1
    Front and back 28 spokes Pillar aero x-tba 1420
    Asymmetric XY 29er rims outer width 40mm internal width 34 mm
    Internal nipples
    No decals
    The wheels look great , internal nipples,no decals and straight pull hubs makes them look very clean.
    Front wheel is 730gr the back one 830gr so 1560gr for the set
    I believe that is 3,44 lbs, not bad for an 29er 34 IW wheelset!

    I taped the spoke holes with 19 mm TESA 4287 and used tune valves

    In the front I put a Maxxis Minion DHF+ 3C MaxxTerra TR EXO 29+ , it didn't loose any air in 24 hours without any milk. Very confidence inspiring. Only thing I donít like about this tire is the size and color of MAXXIS, perhaps use a permanent marker?
    On the rear I have a used Nobby Nic 29x2.6 that was flat in an hour without milk
    Perhaps I have to get another tire for the rear , the new 29x2.6 Addix Nobby Nic is still a bit more expensive.. but it fits so very nice in the back of my Jeffsy
    I didnít put any milk in because:
    -I am injured so I can take my time
    -Perhaps I should use more tape, I have also got 25 mm TESA 4287
    -I just want to know if a tire works without any milk or not , I hate these sweating tires.
    It was no problem putting both tires on by hand without tools and with just a floor pump both tires settled with a bang at 1.8 bar(26Psi) but I didnít manage to get the tires off by hand and that is a good thing I think.
    I will come back with pictures and ride impressions!

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    I just received my new wheelset from Carbonfan.com. I am participating in their customer review plan and received a discount on the wheelset. That being said I'll do my best to provide as honest and impartial review. In my initial review, I will be touching on my experience with the ordering process, delivery time, and the product I received.
    Wheelset:
    29" Carbonfan XY Asymmetric Rims - 24mm internal/30mm external width, 28H
    DT Swiss 350 Boost, straight pull, centerlock
    Pillar Aero X-tba 1420
    Weight: 651g (F) + 780g (R) = 1431g (without tape/valves)

    The Ordering process is very simple and easy to use. The only thing that would make it a little better is if there was a wheelset weight calculator that updated as you made changes within the wheelset configuration. That being said I used other means to come up with an expected weight for these wheels. I expected them to come in around 1488g and as you can see above in the wheel detail they came in 57g lower. So iím happy with that.
    Next, I will touch on delivery time. My wheels took about 45 days to get to me but we have to consider the rimís needed to be manufactured, all the components of the wheel need to be gathered up and built. The last factor is actual shipping which was surprisingly short once I got the notification. All in all you have to take into fact that the shipping was free.
    Last, I will touch on the wheelset and build of the wheelset. Once I opened the box I was immediately impressed with the weight. The rimís looked clean, had no blemishes in the carbon or anything that made me second guess the purchase. The rest of the wheelset was the just as clean as the rims.
    Before I got to transferring tires, cassettes and rotors I checked the build of the wheels. I found the front wheel to be slightly out of true in one place and out of round just slightly. The rear also had one small spot that was not perfectly true. However, the spoke tension was very consistent from side to side on both front and rear.
    I used Gorilla tape for my rimstrip because I have allways had good luck with it. I mounted a pair of Bontrager XR3 TLR tires to the wheels without Stans to see how the rim, rim strip, and tire worked together. No problem, great seal between the tire and rim.
    In conclusion, I am happy with what I purchased and find them to be a great value at $688 shipped compared to other brands that are several hundred more or name brand Aluminum wheelsets that can not touch the weight. I will update once I have some ride time on them with hopefully more insight for everyone.

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    Thanks for your guy's review, We are looking for more feedbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoao View Post
    @eb1888 hi, We did update our system now we have

    https://www.carbonfan.com/2017-carbo...mm-height-25mm


    https://www.carbonfan.com/2017-carbo...mm-height-25mm

    those two designs available for MTB biker
    Those are good additions. Asym versions would be attractive with 5mm wider rims as a second option a further bonus.
    Keep up the good development work.

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    Hi guys, After months work, we released super light version carbon rims, (also called T800 carbon rims ) check the details https://www.carbonfan.com/mountain-b...ght-mtb-wheels

    You may heard about it before, for now we only has cross county version, and UD matte skin,

    the Light bicycle , our neighbour seeling it at 269, We do it at only 185 for first 2 months!
    totally same, guaranteed .

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    Just placed an order for a set of the new T800 mix 30mm wide (24 internal) with DT240s.
    The carbonfan website is getting updated so just email them for pricing/build details. Extremely helpful and knowledgeable!.
    I'm psyched. As far as I can tell they are first to market with the newest ultralight wider versions. LB and Stan's are narrower. I've held off on carbon until now because, honestly, the weight vs width vs alu just wasn't there for me. I had built up a set of Pacenti TL28s (450g rim, 24 internal) that were good for what they are and at 1580g with BHS lightish hubs and Laser spokes not bad given the performance. Still, things could get a little flexy and needed frequent truing on the rear. I'm definitely looking forward to the (purported) stiffness the carbon hoops add to the equation and at less weight.
    i'm in the midwest so no massive downhills, just lots of gravel roads and twisty single track with roots and trees. Mostly 2.25/2.35 tire combo, sometimes 2.1 so figured a weight weenie build would suit my situation. I definitely don't want to go narrower than I already have though. So, Carbonfan to the rescue with width. Based on preliminary calculations with DT240s/Pillar bladed (same weight as CX Ray)/alu nips this set should fall around 1301-1350grams. I'll post pics, weights, and review once they get here. These are going on a Lynskey Pro 29 rigid.

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    With T800 carbon material as 20% into the rim manufacture, the weight of one pair of 29er 30mm wide wheels comes to around 1287g now (including about 10g of decal's weight), many engineers in this city are in research now if we can put more T800 for it.
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    Nice. I'd love to see 30mm internal width 27.5s made with t800!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikePilot1 View Post
    Nice. I'd love to see 30mm internal width 27.5s made with t800!
    30mm internal width means 35 & 36mm external width, then. To be noticed, the performance of T800 carbon is rather for XC use, NOT for extremely aggressive use. So, wider rim manufacture is very difficult to accept T800.
    Well, the news is that 27er 30mm external width is on the way. It will come out next month October. With 35mm depth, it is designed for both light MTB and Cyclocross.

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    Thanks! I like 30mm internal for xc. Happy to hear that the 275 30 external rims are coming out. Also a great option!

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    New design of 650B rims

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    This is the one we were talking about. It is supposed to be in the market next month October.
    It is for both MTB XC and Cyclo-cross use.
    If anyone would like to offer some ideas to optimize this design and participate in our Customer Review Plan, we are pleased to offer a certain percentage of discount for our rims and wheels.
    Many thanks.

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    Got them in today

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    Thanks to the Carbonfan crew for putting these together.New T800 mix. 1290 grams on my uncalibrated scale. 30mm outer/24mm inner (verified with my digital caliper), DT240s XD driver, 28 spoke 3x Pillar bladed spokes straightpull. I don't have a tensionometer but feel very equal and threw them on my truing stand and they are trued very well. Have a 2.25/2.35 Racing Ralph set that mounted up quick and easy.
    Raining for a couple days here so will be a bit before I'll have any non-pavement riding impressions but I'll post a review soon. Fit and finish of these rims look great and weight is awesome.

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    So I've finally put my new wheels through some decent rides, here's my review..

    -- Spent a lot of time going back and forth every night speaking with Nathan in China - he responded just about every night - was able to catch him before I went to bed some times - pacific time 10pm .
    -- I ended up picking the 400 gram all mountain rim - 29 inner width - 29 wheel - and the cool thing is - I asked them if they could add 10-15 grams per rim to beef it up. I didn't want the whole 450 gram enduro version - Nate sent me a pic after manufacturing of the rim on a digital scale - it was 409.5 - he also mentioned, before then built - that they generally are within 2-3 grams of spec - because I asked if they had any heavier one laying around -so I like the custom option. It costs me $50 more for the rim set.
    - Build was 350 with ratchet up grade, sapim cx 32 hole, 3x lacing, I calculated the wheelset to come out to 1590, and when they came in I weighed them myself - 1592
    -Although I didn't check tension of the spokes, I trusted these guys after talking to them enough - so I took some pics, mounted my tires, and went out riding. The finish looked great - right on track with any other carbon rim I've seen.
    - My 2.2 non tubeless nevegals mounted right up - felt like a tigher fit than the stock rovals with 29mm on my stumpjumper. 2.3 ground control in the back - same thing mounted easily - but didn't feel flimsy or a weak bead seal
    - Did a few local neighborhood rides and now I have 4 hard big mountain rides on these - my setup is 22psi front, 24psi rear
    - I noticed during several rock gardens that the front end would track straighter when hitting rocks in fast succession - square 4-6 inch lips. I'm a plow it hard fast and straight rider, but I don't jump much more than chest or head high on this bike. It's my first real amount of riding on carbon wheels - so I can't really compare to other carbon wheels. But what I noticed was the bike held off camber lines better, and didn't deflect as much in the rocks. I was able to keep a line better through the chunk. Also the cornering was a little less noticeable, kind of similar to the off camber line thing- it would just roll around the turns smoother.
    - The BIG difference I noticed was when I smashed incredibly hard with my rear tire onto a square lip - put a big hole in my tire - and I heard it hit the rim bead hard. FOR SURE- these wheels encouraged me to ride hard and more confident than the stockers. So I took a gnarly line and cased it. thought for sure I smashed the rim - I know on my 1 month old specialized rovals, I would have flat spotted it - any probably would have had to replace the rim. The situation with the new carbon rim - UN SCATHED- plugged the tire - pumped it back up - and rode out. The only way I could find the tiny - and I mean tiny - liek the size of a ball point pen mark- dot on the hoop - what by looking for the plug in the tire to sight it. No dents, flat spots anything. -these rims are way stronger than aluminum - probably any - and I'd put this wheelset up against any other carbon brand out there - enve included.
    - You cannot beat the value - Light Bicycle charges $100 for assymetric rims - these are only 170 each - and for sure - the same quality if not better, than LB, nextie, all of them.
    - In the pics - I added the tape and valves myself - make sure to discuss if you want the tape included (thing it comes loose for self install)

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    over 3 months of use on mine now - holding up perfectly. Even sucked a stick into the spokes, and it didnt even bend a spoke (in fairness as soon as I heard it start I locked the brake to prevent rotation / wheel / derailleur damage).

    Rims have had a few rock strikes from narrow routes, hasnt really left a mark on the rims.

    Have not bottomed the rims out - I still run conservative tire pressures (24 f & r) currently using continental MK tires. Will probably switch to minions when it starts to get wet.

    Super happy with my rims. Always been happy with DT hubs.

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    I purchased a set of Carbonfan xy asym 27.5 35mm rims and volunteered to participate in their customer review program. Delivery took 25 days from the date order was placed. The rims arrived packed well and in good condition. The quality of the finish was good with only some very slight imperfections only noticeable upon close inspection. Weight was spot on the advertised 380 grams, one was 380 and the other was 382.

    I built the wheels myself using Bitex BX211 boost hubs, Sapim D-Light spokes, and Polyax aluminum nipples. The ERD measurement listed on Carbonfan's website was 551mm, I measured 550.5mm for both rims.

    The rims built up very nice and are true both radially and laterally. This was my first set of asymmetric rims and the only difference is calculating the spoke length and making sure the offset is on the correct side . Final tension was 100kgf front and 110kgf rear. Wheel weight was 688 front and 818 rear. I will post a followup with riding impressions once I have taken them out for a few rides.



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    Thank you for your initial review for our wheels, Merlin01. And tks for the riders who had already participated in our Customer Review Plan and who will participate in it soon. This Plan is not only about a specially interesting price of our Carbonfan rims and wheels for your effort, but also with the certain gifts at different time.
    One message: All riders who were already involved in our Customer Review Plan, can now write to our Customer Service Email (info@carbonfan.com) telling us to which address we should post the carbon bottle cage to you. From time to time you may receive our cute carbon gifts.
    Thank you again.

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    Carbonfan T800 29er & 27.5er 33mm wide rims (and other widths)

    Carbonfan T800 29er & 27.5er 33mm wide rims of Skyweight
    29er : 380g +/-10g
    27.5er (650B) : 365g +/-10g
    If for your Christmas gifts, please send an email to "info@carbonfan.com", and we'll have a special quote for that.

    Refer to this link below for other widths (27mm, 28mm, 35mm)
    https://www.carbonfan.com/t800-tubel...28mm-33mm-35mm

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    I like the looks of these T800 Skyweight Hookless rims for XC racing.

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    Any plans on a light wide gravel rim? Similar to light bikes new rg922. 29mm wide 22mm ID ? 380gr disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global View Post
    Any plans on a light wide gravel rim? Similar to light bikes new rg922. 29mm wide 22mm ID ? 380gr disc.
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    Only one mm less wide (28mm) is ok? Asymmetrical one (offset 2.6mm) !
    Two versions available, 360Ī10g for gravel (or heavier like 380g, for more strength), and 290Ī10g for XC racing.
    The weight and strength of rims depend on your idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonerider View Post
    I like the looks of these T800 Skyweight Hookless rims for XC racing.
    Thank you.
    Yes, we think 30mm depth is pretty special to some extent for MTB use, even if some one said 25mm is ideal depth for MTB rim.

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    Yes 28mm is ok. What is model number of these rims. Want to request build price with dt 350 centerock hubs and confirm max psi. This would be my third carbon fan wheelset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global View Post
    Yes 28mm is ok. What is model number of these rims. Want to request build price with dt 350 centerock hubs and confirm max psi. This would be my third carbon fan wheelset.
    Would you please send us a mail (info@carbonfan.com) telling us your name? as, you know, "Global" is a little bit mysterious in our client list.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Quote Originally Posted by Carbonfan View Post
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    Only one mm less wide (28mm) is ok? Asymmetrical one (offset 2.6mm) !
    Two versions available, 360Ī10g for gravel (or heavier like 380g, for more strength), and 290Ī10g for XC racing.
    The weight and strength of rims depend on your idea.
    Those rims look great. I have been riding on your rims for two years and they have been fantastic.

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    Placed an order
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    New Carbonfan Wheels

    The 27.5 32mm ID asymmetrical rims here https://www.carbonfan.com/asymmetric...mm-25mm-27-5er

    Lacing to Hope pro4 15x100 and 12x142. What spoke lengths do I need for 3x?

    What's the lead time on two rims?
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    Just ordered a wheelset for my wifeís new specialized crux. Dt 350 centerlock straight pull disc hubs. 29 outside diameter 21 inside diameter clinchers. Going to run with 38 tubeless panaracer gravel king slicks. Will keep you posted with weights when they arrive. Have 29id caronfan rims on my ibis Ridley with dt 240 hubs for over two years now trouble free. And my riding friend has carbonfan 22 Id wheelset on his jet9 rdo that he is super happy with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by link1896 View Post
    The 27.5 32mm ID asymmetrical rims here https://www.carbonfan.com/asymmetric...mm-25mm-27-5er

    Lacing to Hope pro4 15x100 and 12x142. What spoke lengths do I need for 3x?

    What's the lead time on two rims?
    Hi, the lead time for buildng these two rims is 7-9 days, plus about 5-7 days shipping time. User Review Program interests you, or not? You can email us for that.
    To have the exact lengths of spokes, we need more info about the hubs and the spokes. If you have all the necessary info, you can get the calculation result of spoke lengths easily, by using the following spoke calculator : Freespoke
    Thank you.

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    I'm stoked to see the wide T800 xc rims. Just sent you an email about them! Just about everything but the rims on my bike are carbon. Time to fix that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbonfan View Post
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    This is the one we were talking about. It is supposed to be in the market next month October.
    It is for both MTB XC and Cyclo-cross use.
    If anyone would like to offer some ideas to optimize this design and participate in our Customer Review Plan, we are pleased to offer a certain percentage of discount for our rims and wheels.
    Many thanks.
    Too wide for cx and too deep for mtb, and a little narrow.

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    Carbonfan T800 29er / 28mm wide Skyweight Rims

    Here is what we purchased...

    https://www.carbonfan.com/t800-tubel...28mm-33mm-35mm

    Let me start that these were built for XC race days only. 32H 2 cross laced on DT Swiss 240's with Sapim race spokes. Came in at 1,270 grams.

    These are for my son who races in the NICA High School series. Replaced some older Light Bicycle Carbon "hook" rims. 27mm wide and 400g each!

    The previous "race" wheelset (same hubs and DT Swiss comp spokes) weighed 1,600g.

    The wheels were very easy to build due to the incredibly stiff rims. My son is blown away......... The bike tracks so much better and the reduction in rotating weight was very noticeable.

    More to come after his 1st race at the end of Feb.
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    Carbonfan Wheelset TB-3

    Received my new wheel-set from carbonfan.com this past week and I was able to get them out this weekend. I ordered the wheel set back on 12/30/17 using Carbonfanís website. Prior to ordering I communicated with one of the their reps, Arthur, a few times, through email and was offered the opportunity to be part of their customer review plan. Communication with Carbonfan was great, I would send them an email and always received a prompt reply, even with time difference. The wheel set took about 23 days to get to the house.

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    Wheel-set Details:
    29Ē Carbonfan XY Asymmetric Rims (Reinforced): 29mm internal/ 35mm external width; 32H.
    DT Swiss 350 Boost, J-Bend; 6-bolt
    Pilar aero x-tba spokes
    weight : 798 fr+889 re = 1687g


    Tires:
    I have been running this comb for a bit now I did up grade the front a 2.5 with the new wheel set.
    Front- 2.5 Maxxis Minion DHF
    Rear- 2.4 Maxxis Minion DHR ii

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    Pre-Ride
    After taping up and mounting the tires, I took the bike out around the house. We live on a hill and I definitely noticed how the rolling resistance decreased due to these rims - which will definitely help out when Iím lugging my weight back up the hill. The new hubs are a huge plus as well. My old OEM rims have Novate hubs and the new DT Swiss felt really smooth when I spun them on the bike stand.


    First Ride:
    I was able to get out on the wheel set this weekend, took them out on one of my favorite local trail loops. The trail is mostly packed dirt with rocks, climbing switchbacks and rock drops to negotiate. The most noticeable difference between the new wheels and my old OEM was how much the traction increased, which I would attribute to the wider rims and running a lower tire pressure. One section on the trail is loose gravel and I definitely noticed the wider rims allowed the tires to do their job. I also noticed the reduction in rolling resistance when climbing and the increased stiffness of the rims improved the power transfer from the cranks to the wheels.
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    I look forward to continued rides on the new rims. I will try to keep everyone updated on how the rims handle and hold up. So far, I would like to say the upgrade on the new Carbonfan wheelset is working out!

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    Hi all,

    How are Carbonfan rims any better than light bicycle or are they much of a muchness?
    Thanks

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    Carbonfan 27.5" Asymmetric 40mm (34mm internal) rims review

    A few weeks ago I picked up some Carbonfan 27.5Ē asymmetric 40mm wide (34mm internal) rims. These fit my criteria of being asymmetric (for more inform spoke tension) and having ~35mm internal width (these are 34mm), which seems to be ideal for wider (2.5Ē-2.8Ē) tires. Having completed the build, I wanted to share some notes and observations. I should mention that I am participating in their customer review program, but honestly, this was going up regardless

    Wheel build notes

    • Internal rim (nipple bed) uniformity
      • What is this and why is this important? On double-wall carbon rims, the rim bed surface is not controlled by a mold. Typically an inflatable bladder is used, which is flexible and conforms to the carbon layup. Given the traditional wheel building methods, a variation in the wall uniformity can impact the wheel build by varying the location (depth) and angle of the nipples. Iíve encountered this in other carbon rims and it not only looks bad, it makes for a weaker, compromised wheel. I measured the uniformity to be +/- 0.25mm, which quite good, with no angled spoke holes.

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    • Effective Rim Diameter (ERD)
      • Each rim was measured in three spots (552mm, 550mm, 550mm, and 551mm, 550mm, 550mm) for an average of 550.5mm. Thatís pretty close to the claimed 551mm.


    • Weights: 403g, 402g (410g advertized)

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    • Fit and finish
      • The rims are finished with a uniform matte coating that (mostly) covers the unidirectional carbon underneath. The decals are stickers and can be peeled off if one so desires. I opted for the stealth decal color, which I would describe as light grey (I knew this prior to ordering). Personally, I would like to see black decals as the Ďstealthí option, but grey isnít bad.


    • Wheel build
    • I ended up using DT Swiss 350 series hubs (centerlock, j-bend) along with DT Swiss Revolution spokes and brass nipples for the wheelset. Itís hard to go wrong with the 350s. I find them to be relatively inexpensive, quiet (with the standard 18pt ratchet), easy to maintain and reliable. The only downside being points of engagement (POE), which can be somewhat remedied by replacing the ratchet with 36 or 54 tooth one. I say somewhat, because these higher POE ratchets are loud and to me at least, not pleasant sounding.


    • The build itself was uneventful. The wheels came up to tension without any unusual hops or wobbles. The only observation worth noting is these rims seemed to be relatively Ďpliableí. What I mean by this is, typically, carbon rims are stiff and not as easy to persuade when building. These almost reminded me of building with aluminum rims. As a side note, get yourself one of these:

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    Greatly speeds up the build and no more dropped nipples!
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    • Wheel weights
      • Front: 727g with tape and valve (716g without)
      • Rear: 833g with tape and valve (822g without)


    • I toyed with the idea of going with the UST option (no external hole), but went with the regular 4.5mm drilling. The height of the inner channel turned out to be 13.5mm, so likely enough to do the internal nipple routing, but only if using 12mm nipples. Still, it would have been tight. Maybe next time...

    Tire mounting and tubeless performance

    • Tire mounting
      • Maxxis Rekon 2.6Ē and 2.8Ē tires mounted with little effort and I was able to seat both tires (several times) with a floor pump. Spread tire evenly around the rim, give it a few quick pumps and bam! Done. The Schwalbe 2.6Ē Nobby Nic was a different story. After a half an hour of messing around, I gave up and just used the compressor. Surprisingly, even this was challenging. I think this is partially due to the stiffer, less pliable tire construction. However, the same Schwalbe tire mounted easily on a set of ARC 30 rims, so there is that.


    • Air retention
      • I tried both strapping and powder coat tapes, with about equal results. After cleaning the rim surface with isopropyl alcohol, both tapes adhered well. The tires maintained pressure for days without sealant. Iíve had issues with other carbon rims, where these tapes would not stick and had to resort to something more tenacious, like Gorilla tape. I should note that the 1Ē wide tape does not look to be ideal for these rims. The tape edges end up near the top of the bead retainer and will likely get pulled up eventually. A 30mm or possibly a 19mm (ĺĒ) tape will likely work better.

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    Performance and reliability

    • Iíll have to re-visit this in late spring or summer. There are still a couple of months left of the fat bike season and I want to spend some time on these before I can comment on performance and reliability.

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    Strange your stealth decals showed up grey. Recently received my stealth decals/wheelset and they are black. The grey looks good though.
    Very impressed with the product from Carbonfan. Arthur was fantastic to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xc71 View Post
    Strange your stealth decals showed up grey. Recently received my stealth decals/wheelset and they are black. The grey looks good though.
    Very impressed with the product from Carbonfan. Arthur was fantastic to deal with.
    Arthur sent me pictures of the decals before I ordered, so I knew what I was getting. I wanted something not too flashy and they work fine for that. Just wanted to point it out, since stealth usually means something more...stealthy

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    My Carbonfan Stealth showed up grey also. Would have preferred to have black but I was expecting grey. I'll be taking them on their maiden voyage next weekend in Moab and Sedona. Looking forward to sharing my thoughts here soon 😎.

    Quote Originally Posted by xc71 View Post
    Strange your stealth decals showed up grey. Recently received my stealth decals/wheelset and they are black. The grey looks good though.
    Very impressed with the product from Carbonfan. Arthur was fantastic to deal with.

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    Whats that thinger called and where'd you get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiss2 View Post
    Whats that thinger called and where'd you get it?
    It's a pin vise (with an old spoke end and nipple) that I use as a nipple guide. You can get them at Amazon or a hardware store. In hindsight, I should have picked up a collet style vise, (they clamp better, but have a more limited range), but it does the job.

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    I now have 6 rides on my 29" Carbonfan rims (29mm inner). All of my rides were in Sedona & Moab so they certainly represent a true test to any wheels.

    In a nutshell, they ride great. The bike definitely feels lighter. Compengr did a great job showing weights, etc so I will not expand on that. Their standard weights are 400g/rim. I did request that they build them slightly more stout (410-420g each) since I want to ride them at Trestle this summer. They came in at 416 & 417g each. Pretty incredible that they can accommodate special requests like that 😎.

    I have another 29er with Stans Arch rims and I was able to ride the bikes back-to-back for a comparison. For the front wheels, it is hard for me to tell the difference between the Carbonfan and the Stans wheels. I can tell the difference on the rears. On the Stans, I can feel a subtle flex occasionally when turning or going over rocks. The Carbonfan rims definitely roll straight and true and I have yet to feel any of the subtle flexing I feel on the alloy rims.

    If you order a set, you should be aware of the following regarding the DT Swiss 54t ratchet upgrade. The 54t gears are not DT Swiss OEM. They are Chinese made knock offs. I decided to order anyways and hope for the best. Unfortunately, I did shear these after about 25 miles of use. I happened to be at the Sedona Mtb Festival and DT Swiss had a booth at the venue. The DT Swiss mechanic onsite was super cool and replaced the 54t set free of charge (he didn't notice they were not OEM). He did say that he suspected that the damaged set was 'over greased' and that was why they failed. I informed Carbonfan that they shouldn't be using so much grease and they were appreciative of my feedback. If you order a set with this upgrade, you may want to take apart and check that the amount of grease is appropriate (check YouTube videos for the appropriate amount).

    Bottom line -- if you want to try Carbon Rims, this is a great way to do so. They are barely more $$$ that Stans, etc and do offer a performance/weight advantage. Carbonfan is awesome to work with and are very responsive to emails. Count on at least 3-4 weeks after you place your order to receive them here in the US. You will also need to be home to receive or trek to the post office to pick up.


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    My Carbonfan Stealth showed up grey also. Would have preferred to have black but I was expecting grey. I'll be taking them on their maiden voyage next weekend in Moab and Sedona. Looking forward to sharing my thoughts here soon 😎.

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    If you order a set, you should be aware of the following regarding the DT Swiss 54t ratchet upgrade. The 54t gears are not DT Swiss OEM. They are Chinese made knock offs. I decided to order anyways and hope for the best. Unfortunately, I did shear these after about 25 miles of use. I happened to be at the Sedona Mtb Festival and DT Swiss had a booth at the venue. The DT Swiss mechanic onsite was super cool and replaced the 54t set free of charge (he didn't notice they were not OEM). He did say that he suspected that the damaged set was 'over greased' and that was why they failed. I informed Carbonfan that they shouldn't be using so much grease and they were appreciative of my feedback. If you order a set with this upgrade, you may want to take apart and check that the amount of grease is appropriate (check YouTube videos for the appropriate amount).

    Bottom line -- if you want to try Carbon Rims, this is a great way to do so. They are barely more $$$ that Stans, etc and do offer a performance/weight advantage. Carbonfan is awesome to work with and are very responsive to emails. Count on at least 3-4 weeks after you place your order to receive them here in the US. You will also need to be home to receive or trek to the post office to pick up.[/QUOTE]

    Interesting. I got an upgrade to the 54 tooth as well and I got skipping pretty bad early on. Cleaned them up and it still happens sometimes so there are some chipped teeth. Do the legit DT ratchets hold up a lot better? I assumed mine were legit and have been pretty mad about the skipping with so few miles on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumblytumbly View Post
    Interesting. I got an upgrade to the 54 tooth as well and I got skipping pretty bad early on. Cleaned them up and it still happens sometimes so there are some chipped teeth. Do the legit DT ratchets hold up a lot better? I assumed mine were legit and have been pretty mad about the skipping with so few miles on it.
    Yes, the real DT 54 tooth sets are great. Have a set of LB wheels w DT240 hubs'. Got the upgraded ratchets locally and installed myself. After 2+ years they are still working flawlessly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumblytumbly View Post
    Interesting. I got an upgrade to the 54 tooth as well and I got skipping pretty bad early on. Cleaned them up and it still happens sometimes so there are some chipped teeth. Do the legit DT ratchets hold up a lot better? I assumed mine were legit and have been pretty mad about the skipping with so few miles on it.
    Once they start to skip, they are pretty much done and need to be replaced. You mentioned that you cleaned them up. According to the DT Swiss rep that fixed my hub, he claimed that the excess grease actually caused slight gapping between the two ratchets. This gapping allowed enough space, that under stress, some of the teeth sheared, causing the skipping. Did you notice excess grease in yours that could have been the cause of the issues ? If so, I'm guessing that this is a Carbonfan assembly issue that could be avoided in the future with some proper training and QA. If the grease is over applied, this could also occur on the DT Swiss OEM ratchets ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by puckcoach3 View Post
    Did you notice excess grease in yours that could have been the cause of the issues ? If so, I'm guessing that this is a Carbonfan assembly issue that could be avoided in the future with some proper training and QA. If the grease is over applied, this could also occur on the DT Swiss OEM ratchets ...
    The DT upgrade ratchet set came with a small can of their grease (enough for several services) and concise instructions on how much grease to apply. The kit is more expensive than the upgrade through carbonfan (I think about $30 more) but you get to keep the 18 tooth set as a backup. I'm planning to order some carbonfan wheels for my 27.5 soon, and will be going with 350s, but will get the kit locally again.

    Thanks to those of you who have reviewed these wheels. I was a bit dismayed to see how much LB had raised prices in the past two years, and am glad to see it looks like I still have an option to get a good set of wheels with DT hubs for under $800.

    C'mon Spring!

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    Yeah, taking them apart they did not seem overgreased from the factory - just a thin coating with tiny chunks of sheered teeth! Outside of this issue these wheels are fantastic and worth every penny. Just pick up the tooth upgrade locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumblytumbly View Post
    Yeah, taking them apart they did not seem overgreased from the factory - just a thin coating with tiny chunks of sheered teeth! Outside of this issue these wheels are fantastic and worth every penny. Just pick up the tooth upgrade locally.
    Sounds like good advise. Especially since you get to keep the 18t as a backup. Wish I would have done it that way ...
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    I just ordered these:

    The ERD is stated to be 551. Every thread I've read says that Carbonfan specs for ERD are as stated. Roger Munson's Wheel Builder book says to never trust any manufacturers ERD specs and to measure them yourself. I have the hubs and am tempted to order spokes to get going on the wheels asap. What do you all think? Wait and measure or order now???
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    ERDs on the set I got was right on. I suspect this is due to how they are manufactured; which I believe is molded, the rim bed holes drilled, and nipple seats machined to ERD inside the rim. The clearance holes in the rim bed on my rims were not coaxial with the nipple bores and not indicative of the DS/NDS angling of the nipple bores. Typical aluminum rims are extruded, rolled into a coil, cut, pinned or welded and the nipple holes drilled without facing for the nipple heads, which can lead to some variance in ERD, but it seems in recent years, Al rim manufacturers have gotten much better at controlling this.
    Do the math.

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    You are taking a little chance with ERD, but I agree, this is all much better controlled these days. It's in their best interest to be accurate.
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