Need Advice/Help ASAP Frame Build Wheelset Pick Mavic, Azonic, Sun what to pick??-
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    Need Advice/Help ASAP Frame Build Wheelset Pick Mavic, Azonic, Sun what to pick??

    First of all sorry. New member. New bike builder. Long post. In need of a lot of advice. Which would you pick?

    Hi all! Any advice would really be appreciated. I am building a 456 Carbon frame. The wheelset it the last piece I need. Having a lot of trouble deciding. Along with the bike I am building I have a 2008 SX Trail I as well.

    At the same time, I’m looking to lighten my SX Trail, so looking for advice in two areas. Have broken post up into two sections 456 Wheelset and Lightening Up SX Trail.

    Intended Use:

    1. On One 456 Carbon: Longer XC/Trail Rides, Occasional Commute Use, Lending Bike when friends visit. Fork is not the lightest…therefore this is not the lightest build, but want to keep weight down if possible.
    2. SX Trail: Do everything bike. Have taken this bike all over, from long XC to Bike parks. I am still a pretty new rider. Jumps and drops under 5 ft…I know this bike is intended for more freeride/mini downhill but I like it. I ride more AM, and would love to lighten it up a bit…as I don’t see myself doing big freeride jumps unless I process faster than expected. Would rather put $ into this bike.

    ***456 Wheelset***
    (Need 110mm front w/ 20mm thru axle and 135mm rear, I believe quick release or skewer will work)

    General thoughts. Hesitant to spend a lot on 456 wheelset, $200 is absolute max. Only considering Outlaws because they’re new. Want something in between. Not too light or heavy as want to use from XC-AM. If I switch the current SX Trail wheels (DT E540) to 456, I don’t want to spend much more than $300…

    Wheelset: #1 $175 shipped –Used condition

    Front Mavic EX721 w/ DT 340 Hub (20mm)
    Rear Mavic EX721 w/ Hope Pro 2 (135mm w/ 10mm thru)
    Included Specialized tires 2.3

    This seems like the best deal to me, long as in good condition.

    1. Too heavy?
    2. Switch to SX Trail?
    3. Just right?

    Wheelset #2 $150 shipped –Used Condition
    Front/Rear Sun Single Track (20mm & 135mm QR)

    Seems like other set would be better, but heard these are strong.

    1. Too heavy?
    2. Switch to SX Trail?
    3. Just right?

    Wheelset #3 $200-215 Local Pickup -New!
    Azonic Outlaws (20mm and 135mm 10mm thru)

    Heard good things but may be a bit heavy & wouldn’t lighten up SX Trail Either…

    1. Too heavy?
    2. Switch to SX Trail?
    3. Just right?

    Wheelset #4 AClass Revolt Set Enduro -$175 Ebay New
    Right Size

    Not Sure on these decent reviews.

    1. Too heavy?
    2. Switch to SX Trail?
    3. Just right?

    Wheelset #5 -$50 Local pickup –Used Condition
    Alex Rims & Hubs (20mm and 135mm QR)
    Not positive on model yet but right size.

    Tempted by these as local, and cheap but may not last…

    1. Too heavy?
    2. Switch to SX Trail?
    3. Just right?
    4. Too cheap/won’t last?

    Wheelset #4
    Look for a better/lighter wheelset for the SX Trail and switch DT E540 w/ Spec rims to On One 456…
    Any suggestions? ($300 or so budget probably used wheelset…)
    Other questions I have:

    1. Should I be hesitant buying used rims?
    2. Has anyone has positive experience buying used rims on pinkbike?

    Lightening up SX Trail

    1. Wheelset recommendations?

    1. Buy or Build (Assuming buy as build will likely me more and I’m trying to save.)
    2. Will X0 Shifters/Rear Der be that much lighter and should I swap them out for the X7 shifters and X9 der?
    3. Switch Juicy 7 onto the SX Trail and leave Juicy 3 for 456. (I know these aren’t best brakes, but I know how to bleed them and have a bunch of pads.)
    4. SLX Cranks vs Raceface Atlas Cranks? (I’m ditching the husselfelts)
    5. Ditch husselfelt stem?
    6. I will eventually upgrade bars but any other ideas to lighten up bike some?

    Frame: On -One Carbon 456 Black/Grey 18inch
    Forks: Marzocchi TST2 Reduced from 160mm to 140mm 20mm thru axle
    Bars: Black 710mm
    Stem: Gravity 50-60mm black
    Headset: On-One Smoothie taper
    Headset spacers: FSA
    Headset Cap: FSA
    Grips: Used no name

    Brake Adapters: 160mm IS Rear
    Front Brake assy: Juicy 7
    Front disc: Avid 160mm
    Rear Brake assy: Juicy 7
    Rear Disc: Avid 160mm
    Hoses: Unknown

    Front Shifter: n/a (have X0 if needed)
    Rear Shifter: X0 9 speed
    Cables: jagwire set
    Front Mech: n/a
    Rear Mech: X0 Med

    Seat: Selle Italia
    Seat Post: 31.6mm Syncros 345mm
    Seat Post Clamp: On One

    Cranks: RaceFace Atlas or SLX
    Chainring(s): Black spire 32t
    Chainring Bolts:
    Chain: $10-15 (still need to research what will work with xt cassette best)
    Cassette: XT 9 Speed
    Pedals: Cranfield Crampon Ultimate (used)
    Bottom Bracket: SLX
    Chain device: Origin8 Torqlite Ul Chain Guide

    Wheelset 26inch $100max
    Front Wheel: 20mm thru
    Back Wheel: 10mm thru or skewer 135mm (maybe you have a suggestion, would just use skewers on both but used fork I have has the 20 thru.)
    Tires: Not sure

    Frame: 2008 SX Trail I Medium
    Forks: 2010 Fox 36 Van R 160mm
    Rear Shock: Fox DHX 4.0 coil shock 9.0×2.75″ w/ TI 350 lb spring
    Bars: Specialized Enduro 6066 alloy mid rise bar. 660mm wide 31.8mm.
    Stem: 2008 Truvativ Holzfeller forged/CNC with a 31.8mm
    Headset: 3 1/8" threadless. 7050 alloy cups
    Headset spacers: Carbon
    Headset Cap: FSA
    Grips: Specialized thin lock on dual density

    Front Brake Adapter: 203mm IS
    Front Brake assy: Juicy 3
    Front disc: Avid 203mm
    Rear Brake Adapter: 203mm
    Rear Brake assy: Juicy 3
    Rear Disc: Avid 203mm
    Hoses: Unknown

    Front Shifter: Scram X7
    Rear Shifter: Sram X7
    Cables: jagwire set
    Front Mech: Shimano M581 LX dual pull, top swing with a 34.9mm
    Rear Mech: X9 9 Speed (Apparently short cage from website but looks like med)

    Seat: Specialized Enduro
    Seat Post: 30.6mm Hilo Strate Dropper with OYKLO remote
    Seat Post Clamp: Specialized

    Cranks: Truvativ Holzfeller with BlackSpirt Stinger shift guide
    Chainring(s): 36t/26t
    Bashguard: Specialized Alloy
    Chainring Bolts:
    Chain: SRAM PC-971 with power link
    Cassette: Shimano HG-50 9 speed with a 11-34 tooth range
    Pedals: Specialized Lo-Pro alloy (I absolutely love these pedals. Can in no way remove them due to previous owner/bike shop so sadly may have to go)
    Bottom Bracket: Truvativ Howitzer -Outboard bearing w/ 51mm chainline/73mm shell
    Chain device: Blackspire

    Rims: DT Swiss/Specialized E540 28mm with eyelets.
    Front Hub: Specialized Stout disc 36 hole hub with sealed cartridge bearing. 20mm thru-axle and high/low flange.
    Rear Hub: Specialized bolt-on 135mm hub. Solid 10mm 7075 alloy axle with RD guard.
    Spokes: DT Swiss 2.0mm stainless with brass nipples.

    Front Tire: X-King 2.4
    Rear Tire: Hutchinson Toro 2.35

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    Alexrims are ESD25 w/ DH Diatech Hubs. Come with Moto raptor tires.

    Any help is appreciated!

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