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    Maxxis Tire Failure

    I have about 4 rides on a new Ardent Race EXO and today it lost air rather quickly on a rocky descent. Also kinda surprised I didn't damage the rim because I came down hard and felt a rock hit.

    It was leaking at the bead but no apparent tire damage. I removed it and attempted to reseal but it was just spraying air at the bead near the "WARNING" text. I shifted the tire on the rim and same thing, spraying air in the same location on the tire. Then I mounted an older Maxxis and it sealed instantly. I can't see any damage on the bead either.

    Any ideas? Does this sound like something Maxxis would warranty?

    I was running about 20psi, this is a 2.35 tire and in general I've never had a tire fail like this and have been running Maxxis tires for 3000+ mtb miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    I have about 4 rides on a new Ardent Race EXO and today it lost air rather quickly on a rocky descent. Also kinda surprised I didn't damage the rim because I came down hard and felt a rock hit.

    It was leaking at the bead but no apparent tire damage. I removed it and attempted to reseal but it was just spraying air at the bead near the "WARNING" text. I shifted the tire on the rim and same thing, spraying air in the same location on the tire. Then I mounted an older Maxxis and it sealed instantly. I can't see any damage on the bead either.

    Any ideas? Does this sound like something Maxxis would warranty?

    I was running about 20psi, this is a 2.35 tire and in general I've never had a tire fail like this and have been running Maxxis tires for 3000+ mtb miles.
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    Just to be clear, it sealed up find during install but at a random time during the ride it began leaking between the bead and tape at a specific point on the bead? And there is nothing visually different about that spot on the bead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schulze View Post
    Just to be clear, it sealed up find during install but at a random time during the ride it began leaking between the bead and tape at a specific point on the bead? And there is nothing visually different about that spot on the bead?
    Yes, sealed perfectly about a month ago.

    Today it failed on descent. Was unable to reseal it with fresh sealant. Gushes air at the bead (not a tape issue).

    I mounted and older tire which mounted fast and sealed perfectly so the wheel is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundrted View Post
    Call Maxxis and don't be rude. Explain what happened and that you are a loyal customer. You never know what they will do.

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    I may talk to my bike shop and see if they can warranty. I don't want to be petty but this tire is practically new and at $80 expect a bit more life

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    Yes, sealed perfectly about a month ago.

    Today it failed on descent. Was unable to reseal it with fresh sealant. Gushes air at the bead.
    There should be some defect you can see or feel then.

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    I had that challenge with a Minion FBF. It was sitting in the garage and hanging up on the wall, I came into the garage I found it like that, off the rim. I tried several attempts but it blew off the rim at a few pounds of air. I never ran it below 11 pounds or had any mishap with it; I only use the fatbike in the winter so it was was sitting 4 or 5 months before it happened really odd. It was an OEM tire but less than a year old and BikeWagon helped me out and took it back. They were really cool about it.

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    I had a double down aggressor that I ran at 26 psi. for 3 weeks. then one day sitting in the living room all of a sudden massive boom and the tire had just blow of the wheel while I was watching tv. I think my dog has PTSD cause she is scared to walk by the bike. After the fact I could find nothing wrong with the tire and did not want to air it up again because that seemed dangerous. So, I just threw it out and chaulked it up to something happen on one of the rides.

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    Hum, subscribing to this as have never experienced this with any Maxxis tyres and I've been using them for well over 10 years. I have had casings get knocked out of whack a bit easier than I'd expect when they were having casing issues a few years back, but never had one develop such a leak or just blow off the rim at such low pressures. Wondering if maybe they are having some QC issues now, as assuming these are new production tyres.

    I'd definitely contact Maxxis and let them know, see what they say. Curious OP, are you sure you didn't loose some pressure before that DH and maybe did damage to the tyre without realising it? Have to ask as it just sounds really weird for it to happen just like that without there being clear damage to the tyre bead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Hum, subscribing to this as have never experienced this with any Maxxis tyres and I've been using them for well over 10 years. I have had casings get knocked out of whack a bit easier than I'd expect when they were having casing issues a few years back, but never had one develop such a leak or just blow off the rim at such low pressures. Wondering if maybe they are having some QC issues now, as assuming these are new production tyres.

    I'd definitely contact Maxxis and let them know, see what they say. Curious OP, are you sure you didn't loose some pressure before that DH and maybe did damage to the tyre without realising it? Have to ask as it just sounds really weird for it to happen just like that without there being clear damage to the tyre bead.
    I've had nothing but great experience with Maxxis as well. I know I hit a rock but I don't know if that was the cause or the effect of losing air. It's entirely possible that it burped but two things:

    1 I couldn't have hit it too hard since the rim (carbon) did not chip.
    2. I can't feel or see any damage on the tire where it is leaking

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    I had a similar experience earlier this summer ... after the tire bottomed out (nothing violent, just felt rim touching rock). Nothing would seal the air leak, and I couldn't see any hole either. It seemed like it was coming from underneath the stitches at the bead/side-casing junction. I glued a patch on the inside of the tire to about where the leak was coming from. This fixed the problem (over 1 month of riding since then) ... touching wood.

    Sometime, I feel the necessity to add some stiches using dental floss to reinforce the puncture area, but it this case, all seem to be ok without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I had a double down aggressor that I ran at 26 psi. for 3 weeks. then one day sitting in the living room all of a sudden massive boom and the tire had just blow of the wheel while I was watching tv. I think my dog has PTSD cause she is scared to walk by the bike. After the fact I could find nothing wrong with the tire and did not want to air it up again because that seemed dangerous. So, I just threw it out and chaulked it up to something happen on one of the rides.
    I would at least contact Maxxis to see what they'll do for you. Their tires are way too expensive to only last 3 weeks. It's our duty to hold these companies accountable for their high-priced products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I had a double down aggressor that I ran at 26 psi. for 3 weeks. then one day sitting in the living room all of a sudden massive boom and the tire had just blow of the wheel while I was watching tv. I think my dog has PTSD cause she is scared to walk by the bike. After the fact I could find nothing wrong with the tire and did not want to air it up again because that seemed dangerous. So, I just threw it out and chaulked it up to something happen on one of the rides.
    Had a DD agress do same thing, defective/broken bead. You should have warrantied it, had to ship the defective one back to them but they seemed good about warrantying it.

    https://www.maxxis.com/warranty/bicycle-warranty
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    I should have! I am running another one and just figured I hurt the first one out riding somehow. Even after that and a few other knocking them into a wobble and a pinch flat or two I still run Maxxis tires. Just DD front and rear with Cushcore. I tend to be hard on wheels and tires. Kinda plow with wreckless abandon as my friend calls it. So i figured that sh!t happens and i will just buy another and move on. But IF it ever happens again I will make sure I get a warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2falling View Post
    Has a DD agress do same thing, damaged/broken bead. You should have warrantied it, had to ship the damaged one back to them but they seemed good about warrantying it.

    https://www.maxxis.com/warranty/bicycle-warranty
    So you're suggesting companies warranty items damaged by the user? Neato. That's why stuff costs so much (ok, that's part of it). smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by noapathy View Post
    So you're suggesting companies warranty items damaged by the user? Neato. That's why stuff costs so much (ok, that's part of it). smh
    Fixed it for you.

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    Your rim can puncture/damage the tire at the bead with a hard rim strike. Usually there's two punctures. Sounds like user error (not enough air/tire/finess for the particular trail).

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    Reminds me of the "carbon rim failure" thread recently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2falling View Post
    Fixed it for you.
    It's early and I haven't had coffee yet, but I'm a bit perplexed. Usually when someone "fixes" something, there's some sort of...I don't know...change? I don't think words mean what you think they mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElwoodT View Post
    Your rim can puncture/damage the tire at the bead with a hard rim strike. Usually there's two punctures. Sounds like user error (not enough air/tire/finess for the particular trail).
    Last time I did it, only the puncture along the bead wouldn't seal. There was no way to make that seal on the trail short of a side-of-bacon plug. We had and tried an extra bottle of sealant. It would seal for a while, then let go and blow out all the air.
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    ^^I've done it twice this year...Have had good luck with after ride repair using super glue.

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    I couldn't see this originally but yeah it's punctured near the bead. Ok so ran pressure too low and probably pinched it. Got it
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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    I couldn't see this originally but yeah it's punctured near the bead. Ok so ran pressure too low and probably pinched it. Got it
    I did the same thing on the same tire. Repaired it with a slice of bacon when I got home and rode it until it wore out.

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    Yup, did that to 3 different Maxxis tyres when I switched to an i29 rear rim, think all in the same spot or there abouts on the same trail, switched back to an i25 and haven't had it happen since. Maybe I was running a bit too low pressures and bottoming out on the rim, not sure, but it was 3 different tyres, a Forekaster, DHR2 and MinionSS, all EXO casing. I personal thought it was more because the casing was further out and more exposed, hence getting snagged.cut on a piece of rock or something. Never could get them to hold tubeless with patches, never did try a plug, might give that a go and see if it works.

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    I couldn't see this originally but yeah it's punctured near the bead. Ok so ran pressure too low and probably pinched it. Got it
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    Got another wobbly casing Maxxis Maxx grip EXO DHF. slapped it on the night before leaving to moab. Went ahead and rode it for the weekend, not I need to go to LBS and see if they can call maxxis and see if I can get a warranty. It has some very strange wear as well like air bubbles in the rubber from the mold. I have perfectly round craters in the center of about 5 lugs.

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    Well it happen again...... Maxxis Aggressor 2.3 on specialized wheels at 26psi sitting in the living room blew off the rim while I was at work today. This is the only tire have ever done this. Not sure what is going on with the 2.3 DD aggressors and my bike but you can see where the bead just flat out failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Well it happen again...... Maxxis Aggressor 2.3 on specialized wheels at 26psi sitting in the living room blew off the rim while I was at work today. This is the only tire have ever done this. Not sure what is going on with the 2.3 DD aggressors and my bike but you can see where the bead just flat out failed.
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    Talk about some bad luck, hope there were no pets involved, that would have scared the bejebus out of one. Curious what, if any other tyres and/or brands you've run on those wheels and if by chance there's any rims damage? In all my years running Maxxis, I've never had a tyre blow off, have had casing get deformed when they've been landed crooked from a jump by friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Well it happen again...... Maxxis Aggressor 2.3 on specialized wheels at 26psi sitting in the living room blew off the rim while I was at work today. This is the only tire have ever done this. Not sure what is going on with the 2.3 DD aggressors and my bike but you can see where the bead just flat out failed.
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    It's not his rim. The tire just failed. It happens. I had a bunch of Challenge gravel tires that would explode off the rim at random times.

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    My experience this year - one Aggressor 2.5, one Minion 2.3, and one Shorty 2.5 (all double down) were blowing off of Stans Flow MK3 - violently. Waiting on the warranty claim through my shop. One of the mechanics had one do the same on his ride too.

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    This is sounding like an issue with the DD casings. I find that interesting as they're the heavier, tougher casings and one would think they would be even les prone to this than the regular or EXO casings.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiebruster View Post
    My experience this year - one Aggressor 2.5, one Minion 2.3, and one Shorty 2.5 (all double down) were blowing off of Stans Flow MK3 - violently. Waiting on the warranty claim through my shop. One of the mechanics had one do the same on his ride too.
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    For sure! Each tire was a bear to mount with generous amounts of soap and water. Once mounted - it would stay inflated for a bit and then an explosion would go off in the garage. Seems like the bead wires are tearing or something.

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    No dogs were harmed in the explosion of this tire. This is my 2nd 2.3 DD aggressor to do this to me. I have run pretty much every maxxis tire combo under the sun from exo to dh casing on these wheels. The 2.3 dd aggressor is the only tire to do this. 2 different tires. Sadly I do no think I can get any warranty on this since I won the tire at a race this year. So I slapped my 2.5 assguy on the rear and am now welcoming winter slop weather. Guess I know what tire not to buy in spring.

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    Interesting! I was going to give the DD's a try when my SG's are dead. I had to run over 30 psi to keep pinch flats away on MK3's with normal sidewalls.

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    You should they feel much better than SG. I just have had no luck with the 2.3 aggressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Well it happen again...... Maxxis Aggressor 2.3 on specialized wheels at 26psi sitting in the living room blew off the rim while I was at work today. This is the only tire have ever done this. Not sure what is going on with the 2.3 DD aggressors and my bike but you can see where the bead just flat out failed.
    Are you having a hard time putting these on you rim and using a tire tool with a lot of pressure? You could be stretching/damaging the bead putting them on?

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    It is hard to say if that is the case or not. I do not think they are hard to get on. I actually do use a lever to get the last few inches on, but they are maxxis brand tire levers and it is never a real big fight. I have in the past fought with some DH casing tires while running cushcore and without back in the day when it was wire bead. I am starting to think maxxis is starting to have QC issues with some of the newer tires coming out. I have seen a few blow outs, and warped casings real easy compared to before , some even freash out the box. Some bubbles under treads. It is a shame because they have always been to go to for tires. If I want tires that the casing gives up before the tread I will go buy a Conti cause at least I will have black chili compound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    I couldn't see this originally but yeah it's punctured near the bead. Ok so ran pressure too low and probably pinched it. Got it
    That's what I figured happened, which is why I typed my "just to be clear" post, which you answered completely wrong.

    And here we have another thread in the Wheels forum where everyone trying to help is baffled because the OP has no clue what is going on or how to describe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    It is hard to say if that is the case or not. I do not think they are hard to get on. I actually do use a lever to get the last few inches on, but they are maxxis brand tire levers and it is never a real big fight. I have in the past fought with some DH casing tires while running cushcore and without back in the day when it was wire bead. I am starting to think maxxis is starting to have QC issues with some of the newer tires coming out. I have seen a few blow outs, and warped casings real easy compared to before , some even freash out the box. Some bubbles under treads. It is a shame because they have always been to go to for tires. If I want tires that the casing gives up before the tread I will go buy a Conti cause at least I will have black chili compound.
    Ya I think it would be hard to actually damage/stretch the bead with a tool, think they are made of kevlar.

    Sounds like there is definitively some sort of issues with the DD, I had aggressor DD so the same thing earlier this year.

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    Op, seems to be a normal pinch flat. I work on all my crap at home so itís a lot of trial and error with my experiences. Stans has the worst tire beads. If you go a couple psi over with your crap pump gauge itís going to blow. Temp change from the garage in the winter and bringing the wheels inside has blown my tire. I would check your rim Arin, maybe a soft spot from your hucking everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INF216 View Post
    Op, seems to be a normal pinch flat. I work on all my crap at home so itís a lot of trial and error with my experiences. Stans has the worst tire beads. If you go a couple psi over with your crap pump gauge itís going to blow. Temp change from the garage in the winter and bringing the wheels inside has blown my tire. I would check your rim Arin, maybe a soft spot from your hucking everything.
    Its the carbon ones and I checked to make sure it was not broken or cracked. Just bad luck I am guessing. The Assegai I replaced it with is holding just fine.

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    How are you liking them so far? Iím hoping Maxxis makes the exo and exo+ in 2.4 with a dhr cassing for the assguy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INF216 View Post
    How are you liking them so far? Iím hoping Maxxis makes the exo and exo+ in 2.4 with a dhr cassing for the assguy.
    Slow rolling front and rear but traction for days. Ass guy front and something faster in the rear really gets the job done around here. I cant wait to see how the EXO does compared to the DH casing.

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    I just got a box of warranty replacement tires from Maxxis - an aggressor, DHF, and a shorty.

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