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    Maxxis recommendations DHF/DHR2/Aggressor, widths, 27.5"/30mm rims, wooden trails

    Hi mtbr guys!
    I already read hundreds of threads comparing all relevant Maxxis models. The HR2 2.4s on my Jeffsy 27 begin to show some heavy wear on the edges of the knobs which made me think about what to get next.

    I'm almost exclusively riding the trails in my home (woods of Rhineland-Palatine in Germany), which means mostly "loose over hard" I guess, namely leafs and wooden debris on stone, roots and sometimes sandy forest grounds. Most tours I do in the realm of 10-20km/250-500hm, no bikepark/lift. I'm in principle happy with the Highrollers, but hope to optimize my riding experience even further. I love the "on rails" feeling they give me when cornering on the sides (awesome squared compared to the XC-ish Kenda tires on my Orbea hardtail that I now only use for touring with wife and kid) but really had some problems here and there with washing out of the front tire in technical sections. Especially in steeper switchbacks with sandy ground. I'm not saying it's only the fault of the tire, but I'm not having problems when cornering fast (will also do my first MTB-technique course next month).

    As I'm not really able to ride and train more than say 1h a week on average, I'm also a little bit hesitant to put on the potentially draggy WT tires especially on the back. Thus, I'm very interested in the practical experience of you guys that can really speak about the real world differences of the setups. I have DT Swiss M1900 30mm rims btw. For simplicity of choice and looks I'm only considering Maxxis.

    My preselection so far:
    Front tire:
    DHF 3C MaxTerra in 2.3/WT 2.5
    DHR2 3C MaxTerra in 2.3/WT 2.4
    (tendency DHF WT, DHR2 WT second place)
    Rear tire:
    DHR2 Dual 2.3/WT 2.4
    Aggressor Dual 2.3/WT 2.5
    (tendency DHR2 2.3, Aggressor WT second place)

    Thank you for helping me with your knowledge!

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    Riding in simmilar terrain you descibe, happy with DHF 3C MaxTerra 2.3 and Agressor 2.3 in the back (faster than DHR2 2.3 i had before).
    I have 25mm rims, so WT is not my thing, in your place maybe go DHF WT front, Agressor without WT in the back.

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    The terrain you described isn't really a good fit for the DHF or the Aggressor. Both of these tires have a higher land/ sea ratio meaning they put a lot of rubber on the ground. This works great in hard pack and large rocks, but doesn't dig in which is what you need.

    I'd go with a Schwalbe Magic Mary (rolls killer and really bites in loose grass/ sand/ bark) up front and the newest Hans Dampf up front. They are very good tires for looser conditions, and I assume being in Germany you can purchase them at a more reasonable price than we get here in the States.

    Based on what you described, if I had to have Maxxis, Probably a Shortie up front and a DHRII in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbfree View Post
    Riding in simmilar terrain you descibe, happy with DHF 3C MaxTerra 2.3 and Agressor 2.3 in the back (faster than DHR2 2.3 i had before).
    I have 25mm rims, so WT is not my thing, in your place maybe go DHF WT front, Agressor without WT in the back.
    Slower speeds and not too techy I would go with a Hans front, Nic rear if itís not really rocky. The Minions and Aggressor are more suited for higher wear areas IMHO.


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    If you like the High rollers, any one of the choices you gave will be good. The HRs are more drifty than those selections. My favorites are dhf & Agressor in dry dhr2 front and rear wet.

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    Something to keep in mind about the HR...

    Consider it an alternate tire for the DHF/DHR2 for when trails get sticky. The HRs primary benefit over those two tires is that due to its more open tread design it resists "packing", or filling with sticky mud. Short of those sticky conditions the DHF/R combo will perform better in every other aspect, including cornering and rolling resistance.

    IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    If you like the High rollers, any one of the choices you gave will be good. The HRs are more drifty than those selections. My favorites are dhf & Agressor in dry dhr2 front and rear wet.
    The above are my fav combos, unless Iím in the Midwest. 2.3 on my trail bike and 2.5 on my AM.


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    Given the profile I would assume (with my limited knowledge that) the DHR2 could also be slightly drifty in the front compared to the DHR; this is what I want to get rid of with the HR2. Also, with 30mm rims are 2.3 tires really helpful for rolling resistance or is the tradeoff worse because the slightly bigger but also more rounded WT tires give a better profile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edeltoaster View Post
    Given the profile I would assume (with my limited knowledge that) the DHR2 could also be slightly drifty in the front compared to the DHR; this is what I want to get rid of with the HR2. Also, with 30mm rims are 2.3 tires really helpful for rolling resistance or is the tradeoff worse because the slightly bigger but also more rounded WT tires give a better profile?
    On a 30i rim the 2.5 DHF is drifts more since it takes more lean angle to engage the side nobs, . The 2.4 DHR2 is better suited for 30i. I find them to grip very well, The 2.3 tires are not suited for 30i and you're almost riding the side knobs going strait.

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    DHRIIs don't lean very well at all. It's a straight up and down tire. It works well for heavy front braking but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    The 2.3 tires are not suited for 30i and you're almost riding the side knobs going strait.
    Is it so bad? I would guess many people use them in that scenario. I would have hoped to shed a little bit of weight and rolling resistance in the back. But I think, also from some input of other Germans, DHR2 WT 2.4 3C front and DHR2 WT 2.4 or 2.3 as dual compound would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edeltoaster View Post
    Is it so bad? I would guess many people use them in that scenario. I would have hoped to shed a little bit of weight and rolling resistance in the back. But I think, also from some input of other Germans, DHR2 WT 2.4 3C front and DHR2 WT 2.4 or 2.3 as dual compound would be awesome.
    In the rear isnt so bad, but the front yoi can lean past the side knobs.

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    I'm btw riding DHF WT 2.5 Maxterra on the front and a DHR2 WT 2.4 Dual in the back since some weeks because I got them quite cheap and they are classics.

    The DHF is all I hoped for: sideways grip works way better for me than the HR2 ever did! Also, it clearly filters a little bit more trail chatter. 10/10 would put on again!

    The DHR2 on the back may roll SLIGHTLY better than the HR2 (but same league) but clearly breaks better and I had less F*CK moments on the back with wet roots (admittedly, the HR2 was also in the MaxPro compound, so no softer side knobs). Let's see how I like the DHR2 over the saison, I may put it on again or may try the 2.3 or go into the direction of an Aggressor.

    Thanks again for your feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    DHRIIs don't lean very well at all. It's a straight up and down tire. It works well for heavy front braking but that's about it.
    That comment baffles me... the DHR2 is one of the best cornering tires ever made when really laid over because the L shaped side knobs are actually bigger/stronger than on the DHF which they are patterned after. Aggressive riders really appreciate them.

    OP - I would keep the WT DHF 2.5 MaxTerra front and go with a 2.3 Aggressor rear for a 27.5" Jeffsy if it were me... you won't have to worry about the front washing (as you now know) and the rear will have some nice speed for trail use that a DHR2 cannot match. And don't worry about rim width, you won't notice a diff as 30mm rims work really well with most tire widths and isn't really the compromise that some make it out to be (which is also why that width is coming standard on most new bikes these dayz).

    Have FUN!

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    I run a 2.4wt dhr2 max Tera front with a 2.3 aggressor dual on the back, mounted to 26mm I9 1st gen enduro rims on my Stanton switchback, one of the best combos Iíve run and I ride them on just about everything


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086 View Post
    OP - I would keep the WT DHF 2.5 MaxTerra front and go with a 2.3 Aggressor rear for a 27.5" Jeffsy if it were me... you won't have to worry about the front washing (as you now know) and the rear will have some nice speed for trail use that a DHR2 cannot match. And don't worry about rim width, you won't notice a diff as 30mm rims work really well with most tire widths and isn't really the compromise that some make it out to be (which is also why that width is coming standard on most new bikes these dayz).
    Thought about that! But I guess I'd try the 2.3 DHR2 first to not compromise breaking power too much.

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    ^^75% of your braking (NOT breaking) power comes from the front brake/tire so... if you really think you need a better braking rear tire then you really just need to improve your technique (I'm guessing you use the rear brake as a "security" measure on the really steep trails?). One of the biggest advances you can make in this sport is to learn to brake properly (get on them hard and short BEFORE corners; don't use them on straights!). For mainly DH and park, then yeah but NOT for trail on a 27.5 Jeffsy! They also make a 2.5 Aggressor which might be a good compromise for you.

    Have FUN!

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    My HD3 had DHF and DHR tires on it, my Ripmo has a DHF up front and and Agressor on the rear. This weekend our trails were a little wet and on loose over hard (with some clay) I can tell you the Agressors do get a little bit slippery. The front end just sticks, the rear slides. Not horribly, but you can feel it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086 View Post
    ^^75% of your braking (NOT breaking) power comes from the front brake/tire so... if you really think you need a better braking rear tire then you really just need to improve your technique (I'm guessing you use the rear brake as a "security" measure on the really steep trails?). One of the biggest advances you can make in this sport is to learn to brake properly (get on them hard and short BEFORE corners; don't use them on straights!). For mainly DH and park, then yeah but NOT for trail on a 27.5 Jeffsy! They also make a 2.5 Aggressor which might be a good compromise for you.

    Have FUN!

    G MAN
    I am totally aware of that! Still, when there is a major discrepancy between front and rear breaking traction the rear becomes finicky and too drifty imho.

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