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    Maxxis Minions WT or no WT?

    Did anyone use a DHF 2.3" front with a DHR II 2.3 rear and change them to DHF 2.5" WT front with a DHR II 2.4 WT rear?

    Can you please share thoughts about:
    - rolling resistance?
    - pedalling efficiency?
    - is the bike noticeably heavier when going uphill?
    - noticeably better on turns?
    - other cons/pros?

    Thanks, Mo.

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    Yes I have done just that. Below are my thoughts

    - rolling resistance? - same
    - pedalling efficiency? same
    - is the bike noticeably heavier when going uphill? no
    - noticeably better on turns? no
    - other cons/pros? buy the tire that fits your rims best. A wide tire on a wide rim is great. A wide tire on a narrow rim sucks.

    Most noticeable is the wider tires have much less trail chatter and slip less on wet roots due to lower pressures. You can maybe run 1-2.psi less on the 2.5s and keep the same rolling resistance imo.

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    A little while back I was going to try and run a more "trail" setup, so I got a 2.5x27.5 DHF minion for my i30 front rim. I had a lot of trouble rolling the tire onto-edge. It just wouldn't go and it was a strange sensation. That really slowed me down in corners. I put the tire on the back, got an interim front tire, the problem was solved for the moment. I eventually got a 2.5wt for the front, problem fixed. Back in the day, we used to run some pretty wide tires, but the rims were never all that wide with a couple exceptions. This was an interesting wake-up call. I've been running some other tires on this rig that worked ok, but when I tried to go back to my gold-standard minions, it backfired with the DHF not being a WT. With I-30, WT feels perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mo6500 View Post
    Did anyone use a DHF 2.3" front with a DHR II 2.3 rear and change them to DHF 2.5" WT front with a DHR II 2.4 WT rear?

    Can you please share thoughts about:
    - rolling resistance?
    - pedalling efficiency?
    - is the bike noticeably heavier when going uphill?
    - noticeably better on turns?
    - other cons/pros?

    Thanks, Mo.
    What size wheel and how tall are you?

    On a 29er I went the other way, 2.5 to a 2.3. I found the wider tire sluggish in the turns and I like the way I can slash with the narrower tire. I am only 5'8" so may not have enough leverage to slash a 29er. This was on 30mm internal rims.

    On a 27.5 I like 2.6/2.5 tires. Anything narrower and the bike feels squirrelly to me. The wider tires adds stability to the bike. This was on 35mm internal rims.

    Judging from jayem response this maybe a ymmv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt View Post
    What size wheel and how tall are you?

    On a 29er I went the other way, 2.5 to a 2.3. I found the wider tire sluggish in the turns and I like the way I can slash with the narrower tire. I am only 5'8" so may not have enough leverage to slash a 29er. This was on 30mm internal rims.
    I had a 29er enduro with minion 2.5s too, that was very sluggish. I wasn't traction/turn limited by the tread like above, but the gyroscopic stability was a major issue. I too would have a hard time going more than 2.3-ish on a 29er, save for extremely unique circumstances, like some park days, but even at the park, when I was going for speed (racing), the skinnier was better on the 29. Those rims were a bit narrower though, so maybe it didn't come into play as far as the WT requirement. i30 on my 27.5 definitely did.
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    Thanks for your replies guys!

    I'm 5'8", 29er bike, 29mm internal rims.

    Ratt & Jayem - after reading your reply I'v decided to stay with the 2.3" tires, I guess these are the better option for me (and will save me a little weight too )

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