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    MAXXIS Aggressor....

    I would say the volume of the Aggressor is slightly bigger, speed is about the same, but traction and casing suppleness is improved. The Purgs clear mud a little better. The Aggressor brakes better. The DHR2 is much better in wet conditions although an Aggressor is not scary when caught out in the rain unexpectedly. A Morsa rolls faster and has comparable traction but I've only run it at Sedona on the rear. Of course the Aggressor has better traction when damp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDon View Post
    I would say the volume of the Aggressor is slightly bigger, speed is about the same, but traction and casing suppleness is improved. The Purgs clear mud a little better. The Aggressor brakes better. The DHR2 is much better in wet conditions although an Aggressor is not scary when caught out in the rain unexpectedly. A Morsa rolls faster and has comparable traction but I've only run it at Sedona on the rear. Of course the Aggressor has better traction when damp.

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    Yes IMO. I wish it was as light as the Ardent 2.4 but it performs better and the heavier casing is reassuring on my Switchblade. I'll probably run the Ardent this summer on the rear when riding the east coast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDon View Post
    Yes IMO. I wish it was as light as the Ardent 2.4 but it performs better and the heavier casing is reassuring on my Switchblade. I'll probably run the Ardent this summer on the rear when riding the east coast.


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    How's the casing on the Morsa? I've been interested in trying it but thought people in another thread were saying that it tore really easily. Visually it looks perfect for a rear for me.
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    Rode Fort Ord today in NORCAL-----conditions really mixed. The aggressors are good in the dry---pitiful in the sand---and a bit iffy in the wet. I actually think with these mixed conditions the Ardents I took off would have been better. But hopefully it is not to long until we have dry conditions and then the aggressors seem to come into their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    How's the casing on the Morsa? I've been interested in trying it but thought people in another thread were saying that it tore really easily. Visually it looks perfect for a rear for me.
    It seems tough. I have a superficial cut which I suspect would of mortality wounded an Ardent.


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    How many miles are folks getting out of their Aggressors before they need to be replaced?

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    Much better than a Morsa in Arizona. I think it wears well and provides better traction than the Morsa. The Morsa is faster but I thought I remembered it had better traction although I rode it early in the season when it was less dusty. Sorry, I canít give mileage.


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    Just replaced my 2.3 dhf (3c)/aggressor combo with a 2.3 dhf(3c)/dhf (dual compound) combo, honestly the two tires combos are the closest to each other that I have ever tried. Both seem to roll about the same actually, which is weird, I felt in some spots like it might have been a tiny bit more effort to pedal the dhf uphill or on the flats but at the same time rode at my normal pace, so I think I was imagining things. The seemingly extra volume of the 2.3 dhf meant I was noticeably faster through the looser downhill terrain, and the dual dhf combo has insane cornering, so much so now with the rear that I have to be careful to not wash out the front. Luckily I only did so on a leaf-covered, slow speed, and very sharp corner. But these combined made for some awesome downhill sections and pretty good flat riding.

    I've been a huge fan of the aggressor and dhf combo but the dual dhf option was pretty much equal or even better in some ways. The aggressor holds the advantage in braking on hardpack, the dhf skids way more on hardpack during braking than the aggressor, but does pretty good in looser conditions. I felt that on hardpack, the new dhf had worse skidding under braking than a aggressor with about 20 rides on it, but the dhf was okay or good in other conditions. Also, when leaning the tire over down a hill covered with loose gravel, the gap between the side and center knobs of the dhf seems a bit sketchier than cornering with the aggressor, but there's only a few corners in any of my riding areas that are similar to this so its not a problem really. The dhf is also known to be pretty good in the wet while the aggressor is worse, though in the summer conditions I had the aggressor hit wet and muddy patches just fine with no issue to be concerned, so maybe the aggressor is better in wet than claimed.

    I feel like the dhf/aggressor is marginally better for dry, more hardpacked conditions while the dhf/dhf combo is better for looser and perhaps wetter conditions. In most conditions they should be pretty close. I'll have to see on upcoming rides but I do think the dhf/aggressor combo will pedal a tiny bit quicker on flat trails, I need to do a lot more riding though including a lot more downhill.

    So, I only have initial impressions to go on then, it could be that after more rides I discover that I liked the aggressor way better, but for now i'm leaning back towards dual dhf.
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    How many miles are folks getting out of their Aggressors before they need to be replaced?
    I probably had about 190-200 miles on mine before I replaced it, it first started to skid a tiny bit under braking then seemed like it was losing some cornering traction. I probably could have got quite a few more rides out of it but didn't want to end up with a highly worn dhf on the front and new dhf on the rear, so I just replaced the aggressor while the front dhf was new. The aggressor did have pretty good longevity, its just its performance was starting to decrease so at that point I usually change tires. Also it looked like the sidewall was about to start leaking sealant through some of the raised imprint on the tire (I think where it says 29x2.3 or something like that) based on the way it looked, so a few more rides and the whole casing may have started to leak. But riding at low pressures like I do on maxxis tires, this seems like it always happens , it happened at 25 rides on my original front dhf but I think only around the low 20's on a dhr2. The aggressor lasted longer than the dhr2 for sure but part of that could have been how I was riding the dhr2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agreenbike View Post
    Just replaced my 2.3 dhf (3c)/aggressor combo with a 2.3 dhf(3c)/dhf (dual compound) combo, honestly the two tires combos are the closest to each other that I have ever tried.
    Recently did the same thing and your observations seem to mirror mine.
    Dual DHF really does make the bike feel balanced and predictable. And magically like you said it doesn't seem to roll much differently than the aggressor.

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    Thanks for the responses, I love a DHF x 2, it can indeed seem magical at times, but with tires especially, the grass is always greener when new alternatives appear. Hearing from riders who have experience on both is very helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac1000 View Post
    Recently did the same thing and your observations seem to mirror mine.
    Dual DHF really does make the bike feel balanced and predictable. And magically like you said it doesn't seem to roll much differently than the aggressor.
    Awesome, I was left kind of scratching my head like "this can't be right" but good to hear i'm not alone in thinking this. If these trends hold up on other trails then the DHF/DHF will be my favorite combo ever but by just a small amount it seems. I've tried most maxxis tires (ardent race, ardent, dhf, dhr2, hr2, aggressor) and not much else, so maybe i'll find something better from other brands, but for now I think a dhf front and specialized semi slick (butcher?) would be at the top of my list to test next dry season, otherwise both dhf/dhf and dhf/aggressor are pretty good!

    Its like the dhf/dhr2 that everyone loves I thought was good but not my best option, it seems the dhf/dhf was very popular before the dhr2 came out but then is not mentioned much online since then, I've been wanting to try it though since that's what came stock on ibis hd3's which seemed good. To me the dhr2 always seemed drifty when cornerning and somewhat sketchy when you get on the side in the wet, in fact I wiped out pretty hard in the wet on one of my first rides ever with it so I never trusted it for wet since then. I like more precise cornering so the dhf or aggressor seem better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    Thanks for the responses, I love a DHF x 2, it can indeed seem magical at times, but with tires especially, the grass is always greener when new alternatives appear. Hearing from riders who have experience on both is very helpful
    I second the grass is always greener, by the time january rolls around a hr2 is better probably since I know it does so well in mud, i'll just have to find a good tire for the rear, maybe the dhf will hold up but maybe I need something else. For me the dhf/dhf has been the end of the line for awhile, i've been waiting to try it all year, now I would have no clue where to go after it. It does good but maybe something will roll faster and still corner good enough to my liking. Time will tell, for now the dhf/dhf looks like it could be the default option for most of the year riding though.

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    The 2.5 aggressor should be out soon. Im excited about that.

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    Its official, on my second ride overall with the dhf/dhf and the first with this combo on another set of trails, I was faster up and down with the dhf on the rear than the aggressor. I set my best total ride time ever of 1 hr 40 min last week (100 minutes) with a dhf/aggressor combo and now set a 1 hr 37 min (97 minutes) time with the dhf rear, I lost a minute too having to move under a tree that fell across the trail and also lost some time to a stop for photos that I did not make before, so really I could have done 1 hr 35 minutes easily. That's a 3% difference in time as it stands and it could have maybe been 5% faster. A brand new aggressor would have evened the gap some, but I still felt quicker on the dhf. I was surprised as I felt like I climbed a bit quicker with the dhf than the aggressor rear. Downhill, especially through rough terrain, I plowed through quicker with the dhf. Disclaimer is that I also added a few psi of air to the fork and rear shock, but everything else including tire pressure was the same as my previous personal record ride.

    The first ride with the dhf/dhf was on some general trailbike trails with some decents, today was down a pretty rocky and twisty downhill trail, then a fireroad, then a twisty singletrack which was fairly smooth. That usually is about 30 minutes total, followed by the rest of the ride being several very steep climbs and a lot of twisty, undulatory singletrack (so not specifically dh or climbing).

    It still holds true that the aggressor has better climbing and braking traction especially on hardpack and not very lose conditions, I felt the dhf skidded quite a bit more when standing on the pedals uphill and also when laying on the brakes. But I felt more confident on the dhf and carried more speed, I did have some drifty cornering incidents that I didn't have before but I think its due to the extra speed I was carrying. That gap between the side and center knobs on the dhf also is a bit more sketchy than the aggressor I still think, but that could be because I am running narrower 23.4 mm internal width rims. So the aggressor tread does seem to work a bit better in some ways yet I still like the dhf more and did better with it. Also, the aggressor will probably have better longevity as the skidding with the dhf has seemed to already start to wear the center knobs slightly (after 2 rides!) but the aggressor took awhile before any wear at all was seen.

    Obviously this is all imo, you could argue those times are close enough that other factors potentially had an effect, including the other changes to my setup or maybe i'm just in better shape this week than last, but for now I like the dhf rear better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agreenbike View Post
    Its official, on my second ride overall with the dhf/dhf and the first with this combo on another set of trails, I was faster up and down with the dhf on the rear than the aggressor. I set my best total ride time ever of 1 hr 40 min last week (100 minutes) with a dhf/aggressor combo and now set a 1 hr 37 min (97 minutes) time with the dhf rear, I lost a minute too having to move under a tree that fell across the trail and also lost some time to a stop for photos that I did not make before, so really I could have done 1 hr 35 minutes easily. That's a 3% difference in time as it stands and it could have maybe been 5% faster. A brand new aggressor would have evened the gap some, but I still felt quicker on the dhf. I was surprised as I felt like I climbed a bit quicker with the dhf than the aggressor rear. Downhill, especially through rough terrain, I plowed through quicker with the dhf. Disclaimer is that I also added a few psi of air to the fork and rear shock, but everything else including tire pressure was the same as my previous personal record ride.

    The first ride with the dhf/dhf was on some general trailbike trails with some decents, today was down a pretty rocky and twisty downhill trail, then a fireroad, then a twisty singletrack which was fairly smooth. That usually is about 30 minutes total, followed by the rest of the ride being several very steep climbs and a lot of twisty, undulatory singletrack (so not specifically dh or climbing).

    It still holds true that the aggressor has better climbing and braking traction especially on hardpack and not very lose conditions, I felt the dhf skidded quite a bit more when standing on the pedals uphill and also when laying on the brakes. But I felt more confident on the dhf and carried more speed, I did have some drifty cornering incidents that I didn't have before but I think its due to the extra speed I was carrying. That gap between the side and center knobs on the dhf also is a bit more sketchy than the aggressor I still think, but that could be because I am running narrower 23.4 mm internal width rims. So the aggressor tread does seem to work a bit better in some ways yet I still like the dhf more and did better with it. Also, the aggressor will probably have better longevity as the skidding with the dhf has seemed to already start to wear the center knobs slightly (after 2 rides!) but the aggressor took awhile before any wear at all was seen.

    Obviously this is all imo, you could argue those times are close enough that other factors potentially had an effect, including the other changes to my setup or maybe i'm just in better shape this week than last, but for now I like the dhf rear better.
    What size rear dhf? Maxterra? Be interesting to see how you would like the new 2.5WT aggressor when it comes out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti575inCA View Post
    What size rear dhf? Maxterra? Be interesting to see how you would like the new 2.5WT aggressor when it comes out..

    Keep posting...thx

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    As in my first post, the rear is a 2.3 non-3c model (should be dual compound) tubeless ready exo model. I never mentioned before that I have a 29er though. The front that I had with both the aggressor and dhf is pretty much the same tire but 3c (so maxterra I think? I have to see). The aggressor was a 2.3 exo tr model, so pretty much the same casing.

    Anyways, still all imo, i'd need to use strava on a new version of each tire on the same bike to scientifically conclude i'm faster I guess, but so far I had the most fun and quickest times ever on dhf/ dhf. I took note of the time I left the car and when I got back each time, so the times I posted were the entire ride length. Before the quick aggressor time, I think I set 1 hr 45 min time on a new hr2/ardent combo, so the dhf/dhf with a whole ton of other changes to my bike means this was the quickest time for me ever. Although i've weighed less in the past I think I have more muscle now than ever, so perhaps I'm just getting that much more fit each week to keep setting personal records.

    edit: and I don't think I could ever fit a 2.5 on my rear as it is a modded xc/trailbike that's been turned more AM over time, I don't think i'd run a 2.5 on the front either due to my narrower rim width.

    Would be cool to see if others experienced the same as I did, I do think some might like the aggressor better due to the less sliding under braking and climbing for example.

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    If you can use a dual compound both front and rear, it'll be perfect so u can move the older one to the back to about the back having more grip than the front.

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    If I could further clarify, I guess the point of my original post was that I was a big fan of the aggressor like so many are becoming,
    but I was pretty surprised to find that a dhf with the same size and options rolled about the same and with some benefits,
    and I was further surprised that this combo really isn't used much or talked about much anymore. Today I was surprised that I had a personal record for one of my local trails by quite a bit of time on just my first ride there with the new tire, when it usually takes time to adjust to the tire. I still think the conclusion in my first post holds true at the very least, that a new aggressor and new dhf with the same options are going to give you surprisingly similar times. In fact the dhf rear may be quite a bit quicker, but there are perhaps too many other factors for me to state that for sure.

    And for other record times, I started riding the route I did today back when I had a hr2/ardent combo, I got anywhere from 2 hours to 1:45 at the quickest. Going hr2/dhr2 for a few rides was about the same or slower since it was hard to get that dhr2 uphill with my gearing. DHF/dhr2 was similar with me averaging 1:45 to 1:50 I think. DHf/aggressor I think I maxed out at 1:43 before my ride last week, I had changed pedals bout 10 rides ago after old ones broke and also finally went 11 speed which made me way quicker on the climbs. So with further improvements I got about 1 hour 40 minutes for a quick time. Now with the same setup a week later but with the dhf rear, the time decreased a few minutes and could have had a few minutes shaved off that if there wasn't a downed tree and I didn't stop for pictures at one point.

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    If you can use a dual compound both front and rear, it'll be perfect so u can move the older one to the back to about the back having more grip than the front.

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    That's what i've heard, I'm used to using 3c fronts and already had it on there but maybe next time i'll try that.

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    DHF front and rear is still pretty common, I know a few friends that run it.
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    Third ride at a 3rd totally different place with DHF front and rear, pretty much the same findings as before, it is faster than having an aggressor in the back and the only downside to this combo still is that the DHF rear skids quite a bit under braking, especially in hardpack conditions. Up the paved road to the trailhead, I pretty much flew up the climb. Again, maybe its the extra 0.5 psi im running in the rear on the 2.3 dhf, which also looks a tiny bit bigger than the 2.3 aggressor, or maybe its just me, but whatever it is I climbed pretty fast. What used to be somewhat tiring with me slowly turning the aggressor and old 36t rear on my 1x10 was me turning the 37t on the new 11 speed at a decent rate, so instead of somewhat surging forward like before in some spots I kept a pretty quick speed and even jumped up the the next smallest cog (34t? I forget) on the road. At the trailhead, the hardpack climb with switchbacks was also pretty quick, though maybe not as noticeable as the road. Getting to the real trails (relatively flat hardpack with plenty of rocks, roots, and sharp corners to keep things interesting), I also rode quickly again, pedaling pretty quick and also enjoying the rear dhf's amazing cornering. Hitting the insanely rocky areas of the trail, the dhf plowed through things nicely. Despite it being a hot day, I did not take a water break at my first usual stopping point, I took only a quick breather and kept riding, so I felt less tired than normal at certain parts of the ride. Hitting a flow trail section, the dhf helped me take corners more aggressively than before. There were some areas of the trails with loose dust and others that were forested with loose debris on them, the dhf definitely cut through these loose conditions nicely.

    Again, on the more hardpacked DH sections, the rear dhf did seem to skid quite a bit when you hit the brakes, I can see why the dhr2 is so popular for very steep downhills as it brakes great. But for me, the DHF beats other maxxis treads I have tried at everything else, so i'm very happy with the combo.

    I will have to see how it handles the wet, and maybe its all up to the rider (me), but I am riding quicker and more boldly than ever before with this combo. I wish I recorded times before and after at this riding area like the other area, but I never did, still I just feel fast.
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
    DHF front and rear is still pretty common, I know a few friends that run it.
    That's good at least, I never see them where I ride except for on ibis demo bikes like the hd3 or hd4. I'm definitely getting along well with this combo!

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    I recently put 2.3 DHF front and 2.3 Aggressor rear. These replaced the stock Nobby Nic 2.35 front 2.25 rear that came on the bike.

    Maybe it was in my head but I gripped better through turns, climbed better (never spun out over roots, etc.) and everything felt awesome!

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    Yah, that wouldn't be in your head cause those tires are on different planets as far as traction goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    Yah, that wouldn't be in your head cause those tires are on different planets as far as traction goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    Thanks for the responses, I love a DHF x 2, it can indeed seem magical at times, but with tires especially, the grass is always greener when new alternatives appear. Hearing from riders who have experience on both is very helpful
    Iíve tried both, and many others...I donít like rear tires that have ramped center knobs, no traction when climbing out of the saddle. Minion dhf up front, and an aggressor in the rear is my go to set up for most conditions. The Aggressor isnít good in the wet/mud...knobs are to close together, the tread packs up. Everyone has their own preference...

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    Go to a 3C in the back and braking will get better.. I am sure you realize this though.

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    Destroyed my record-destroying time again this week, got 1 hour 30- 1 hour 31 minutes on the same loop now with another ride on the dhf/dhf. That's 9-10 minutes shaved off of my best dhf/ aggressor time. Last time was 1 hr 37 minutes with dhf/dhf. That's what, a 9% improvement at least (over the aggressor)? I really think for that big of a jump, most of it is improvements in the rider (me) and fitness, but the dhf/dhf combo just lets me be so aggressive in the corners while still pedaling fast everywhere else. No tree down this time and no stopping for photos, so that helped the time, but still a few stops. I was pretty dang tired before the ride and not exactly "feeling it," but once I got on I roared up the first hill and absolutely ripped down. My new intensity though has caused some brand new and quite significant losses of paint near my bb though as I now can blow through some very rocky stuff with confidence.

    And still, aggressor had better braking and climbing traction, but the dhf just gives so much confidence. Definitely my favorite combo yet, need to try a semi-slick tire next dry season but the dhf/dhf rocks for now! I think the rain is going to arrive again very soon, so I likely won't be able to smash any more records from now on, but we shall see...

    Quote Originally Posted by agreenbike View Post
    Its official, on my second ride overall with the dhf/dhf and the first with this combo on another set of trails, I was faster up and down with the dhf on the rear than the aggressor. I set my best total ride time ever of 1 hr 40 min last week (100 minutes) with a dhf/aggressor combo and now set a 1 hr 37 min (97 minutes) time with the dhf rear, I lost a minute too having to move under a tree that fell across the trail and also lost some time to a stop for photos that I did not make before, so really I could have done 1 hr 35 minutes easily. That's a 3% difference in time as it stands and it could have maybe been 5% faster. A brand new aggressor would have evened the gap some, but I still felt quicker on the dhf. I was surprised as I felt like I climbed a bit quicker with the dhf than the aggressor rear. Downhill, especially through rough terrain, I plowed through quicker with the dhf. Disclaimer is that I also added a few psi of air to the fork and rear shock, but everything else including tire pressure was the same as my previous personal record ride.

    The first ride with the dhf/dhf was on some general trailbike trails with some decents, today was down a pretty rocky and twisty downhill trail, then a fireroad, then a twisty singletrack which was fairly smooth. That usually is about 30 minutes total, followed by the rest of the ride being several very steep climbs and a lot of twisty, undulatory singletrack (so not specifically dh or climbing).

    It still holds true that the aggressor has better climbing and braking traction especially on hardpack and not very lose conditions, I felt the dhf skidded quite a bit more when standing on the pedals uphill and also when laying on the brakes. But I felt more confident on the dhf and carried more speed, I did have some drifty cornering incidents that I didn't have before but I think its due to the extra speed I was carrying. That gap between the side and center knobs on the dhf also is a bit more sketchy than the aggressor I still think, but that could be because I am running narrower 23.4 mm internal width rims. So the aggressor tread does seem to work a bit better in some ways yet I still like the dhf more and did better with it. Also, the aggressor will probably have better longevity as the skidding with the dhf has seemed to already start to wear the center knobs slightly (after 2 rides!) but the aggressor took awhile before any wear at all was seen.

    Obviously this is all imo, you could argue those times are close enough that other factors potentially had an effect, including the other changes to my setup or maybe i'm just in better shape this week than last, but for now I like the dhf rear better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    The 2.5 aggressor should be out soon. Im excited about that.

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    Anybody know how this comoares to the 2.5WT DHF in size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_joe View Post
    Anybody know how this comoares to the 2.5WT DHF in size?
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    Anybody else think the Aggressor is squirmy on hardpack? Running the 2.5 WT on back Hitting hardpack berms not liking the squirminess at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_joe View Post
    Anybody know how this comoares to the 2.5WT DHF in size?
    Uses the same casings and once stretched has the same height +-1mm
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    I ran a DHR II EXO Dual Compound 2.3" 29er for the last year and recently blew out the sidewall. The tire still held air, but was stretched and had a significant wobble to it.

    My LBS had a replacement DHR II in stock but it was the 3C Maxx Terra Double Down Casing. I'm expecting the DD to wear a little faster than the Dual Compound, but how do you think the sidewalls will hold up to New England's rocky terrain compared to the EXO?
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    Hi Arebee,

    I assume you're asking if the 3C will wear faster than the dual compound. Yet it will AND it will have higher rolling resistance. Many people hear run a dual compound rear to avoid this issue.

    I suggest you ask the questions about the casing in the New England sub-forum.



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    I ran a DHR II EXO Dual Compound 2.3" 29er for the last year and recently blew out the sidewall. The tire still held air, but was stretched and had a significant wobble to it.


    My LBS had a replacement DHR II in stock but it was the 3C Maxx Terra Double Down Casing. I'm expecting the DD to wear a little faster than the Dual Compound, but how do you think the sidewalls will hold up to New England's rocky terrain compared to the EXO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuddleDuck View Post
    Hi Arebee,

    I assume you're asking if the 3C will wear faster than the dual compound. Yet it will AND it will have higher rolling resistance. Many people hear run a dual compound rear to avoid this issue.

    I suggest you ask the questions about the casing in the New England sub-forum.
    No, I understand that it will wear faster, but I'm concerned about sidewall protection against cuts. I had my first ride on it yesterday. I didn't think I would feel the higher rolling resistance, but I really did notice a difference. Kind of a humid greasy day, so I couldn't get a good gauge on the difference in grip on the roots and rocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushPilot View Post
    Anybody else think the Aggressor is squirmy on hardpack? Running the 2.5 WT on back Hitting hardpack berms not liking the squirminess at all.
    Didn't notice this at all for me. Only negative I have is this tire likes to pick up small rocks and either toss them into my linkage or frame. Some bad enough that it wore through 3m tape already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arebee View Post
    I ran a DHR II EXO Dual Compound 2.3" 29er for the last year and recently blew out the sidewall. The tire still held air, but was stretched and had a significant wobble to it.

    My LBS had a replacement DHR II in stock but it was the 3C Maxx Terra Double Down Casing. I'm expecting the DD to wear a little faster than the Dual Compound, but how do you think the sidewalls will hold up to New England's rocky terrain compared to the EXO?
    the double down casing is quite a bit tougher than the EXO so if you didnt kill the EXO super fast with cuts and holes then the DD will be fine since it is stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    the double down casing is quite a bit tougher than the EXO so if you didnt kill the EXO super fast with cuts and holes then the DD will be fine since it is stronger.
    That's great to hear! The EXO survived nearly two years so I feel a big sense of relief.

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    Can anyone show me or tell me if the aggressor 2.5 is taller or wider then the 2.4wt DHR2 in 29er? Thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenDobson View Post
    Can anyone show me or tell me if the aggressor 2.5 is taller or wider then the 2.4wt DHR2 in 29er? Thanks in advance
    Dude, came here to ask that same question. Nice!
    Wanting to get a DD Aggressor to have if I ever travel to a super rocky area.

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    Okay, I took some measurements, I have on front the DHR2 2.4" WT and Aggressor 2.5" WT on back, both with EXO casing and on Arch mk3 rims.

    - DHR2, tire body is 58mm wide, tread(widest knobs) is 60mm wide, and tire height 73mm from inside of the rim to outside of the tread.
    - Aggressor, Tire body is 60mm wide, tread is 62mm wide, and tire height 74mm from inside of the rim to outside of the tread.

    So the 2.5" Aggressor seems to be slightly bigger than 2.4" DHR2, but not too much. Both tires have been installed about a month ago, so both well "burned in", but not yet worn out. Visual impression matches the measured values... This is a great combo of tires for good variety of terrain and conditions, only thing I haven't tried with this combo so far is proper mud and slimy roots, I expect the combo to be at least decent on those too...

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    Bumping this thread, I went from DHF/DHF about a year ago to DHF/Aggressor, all tires are 2.3's. The single biggest bonus that I've liked about using this combo for the past year is that the aggressor will lose grip before the front DHF does, meaning that its easier to approach the limit without going over when you ride with the aggressor. If you push too hard, the rear will skid out and you can correct for it instead of crashing, and the aggressor is pretty predictable as to when you are at its limit. In contrast, having the front wash out one time on the DHF/DHF combo was enough for me to consider changing my rear tire. Even though I had different compound front and rear on the DHF, they were still so closely matched that I went from doing great to suddenly going over the limit.

    The minions seem to have a bit more volume than the aggressor does so they should carry a bit more speed through the rough stuff, but the aggressor has nice climbing traction, brakes good, works well in wetter conditions than I expected, and so on. If I had a 2.5 front tire i'd probably try a 2.3 minion rear before the 2.3 aggressor though due to the benefits listed above. But really whether you pick a dhf, dhr2, or aggressor, there is no bad choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushPilot View Post
    Anybody else think the Aggressor is squirmy on hardpack? Running the 2.5 WT on back Hitting hardpack berms not liking the squirminess at all.
    I feel similar things with my 2.5 Exo Aggressor... i.e. when side loading into berms etc. I can feel the tyre folding.

    I'm running it on a 30mm ID rim, on a 160mm FS 29er.

    It's paired up with a 2.6 Bontrager XR5.

    I've got a ding'ed rim on the back w/ the Aggressor. It's still holding air though.

    When I bought the 2.5 Aggressor, I was hoping it would measure up like other Maxxis offerings i.e. undersized. However, mine measures 64mm across.

    I wanted a 2.4 wide tyre to go with my 2.6 Specialized Butcher.

    I feel the squirminess comes from the tires height. Besides being very wide, it's also very tall.

    I'm assuming in DD casing it'd be a more stout option.

    Still, when bombing down single track in a straightish line. It works fine (apart from a rim ding).

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    Currently run a 29 DHF 2.5WT front and 27.5 Aggressor 2.5WT rear. It's the dry season where I ride (very hot and dusty) and the tires have been generally ok.

    These are definitely not as grippy as my old 2.35 Magic Mary SG front and rear combo but roll much faster, even if the Maxxis pair is wider.

    The problem lies when I ride down really steep tracks with little grip. This is where the Schwalbe pair allows me to be aggressive and fast. The DHF and Aggressor combo is just too sketchy to get any control whatsoever.

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    I've just finished setting up Aggressor 29 2.5 WT DD on EX511 rims... the tire is ridiculously stiff and tight. Getting it on the rim was a 30 minutes fight. Taking it off was even worse. It just didn't want to get off, even when half of the tire was off the rim.

    However it sealed tubeless without sealant and with a cheap floor pump just like inflating a tube.

    I don't have a caliper to measure, but it looks to have more volume than DHF 2.5 DD. It's a really big tire, it barely fits Ibis Ripmo. Also the knobs are bigger than those on 2.3 EXO 29er.

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    This tire was a let down for me. It just doesn't cut the cheese in mixed conditions, nor is it trustworthy in the dry. First I had the 2.3 on my 650b bike, and now the 2.5WT on my 29. Both show the same somewhat unpredictable squirm/drift while cornering, and lack of climbing traction on technical stuff. I'll be switching back to a DHR2 or DHF asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoS View Post
    This tire was a let down for me. It just doesn't cut the cheese in mixed conditions, nor is it trustworthy in the dry. First I had the 2.3 on my 650b bike, and now the 2.5WT on my 29. Both show the same somewhat unpredictable squirm/drift while cornering, and lack of climbing traction on technical stuff. I'll be switching back a to a DHR2 or DHF asap.
    Agreed.

    2.3 Aggressor DD gets worn out very quickly as the knobs squirm/fold over easily. 2.5WT DD is much better and lasts several times longer for me, but the dual compound is not great on some surfaces. Climbing traction on technical terrain is poor, especially if any moisture is involved.

    On the front, the DHF 2.5WT EXO MaxxTerra is also a bit disappointing as far as sideknob wear and center knob grip on some surfaces, basically the same surfaces the Aggressor dual compound struggles on. It's a good cornering tire of course but the DHF MaxxTerra/Aggressor combo simply has poor grip on some surfaces.

    I'm going back to Schwalbe Addix Soft Hans Dampf in SuperGravity casing for the rear and Magic Mary Snakeskin for the front.

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    Been rocking a old school trailstar MM with a 2.5 WT on back. Stuff is moist here but not really super wet or some places dry loose over hard. Not really been having issues but I do think the rear squirms if I'm railing it. I do believe the 2.5WT is better than the 2.3 I ran though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davec113 View Post
    Agreed.

    On the front, the DHF 2.5WT EXO MaxxTerra is also a bit disappointing as far as sideknob wear and center knob grip on some surfaces, basically the same surfaces the Aggressor dual compound struggles on. It's a good cornering tire of course but the DHF MaxxTerra/Aggressor combo simply has poor grip on some surfaces.

    I'm going back to Schwalbe Addix Soft Hans Dampf in SuperGravity casing for the rear and Magic Mary Snakeskin for the front.
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
    Been rocking a old school trailstar MM with a 2.5 WT on back. Stuff is moist here but not really super wet or some places dry loose over hard. Not really been having issues but I do think the rear squirms if I'm railing it. I do believe the 2.5WT is better than the 2.3 I ran though.
    The 2.5WT was a bit better for me too. The profile has a better shape with a little more side knob it dig in. I run double DHR2 on my DH bike and I actually think I prefer it over a DHF up front. Also considering giving the minion SS a go this summer. I ran MM/RR for good while and loved it. The MM gives up a bit on loose over hardpack but it's amazing everywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoS View Post
    The 2.5WT was a bit better for me too. The profile has a better shape with a little more side knob it dig in. I run double DHR2 on my DH bike and I actually think I prefer it over a DHF up front. Also considering giving the minion SS a go this summer. I ran MM/RR for good while and loved it. The MM gives up a bit on loose over hardpack but it's amazing everywhere else.
    DHR2 was well liked on the front of my bike in the past. I also preferred it to the DHF.
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