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    Riding in Edmonton - Fall 2010

    With all the trees looking as bald as jkirkpatri and I, I think it's time to put the Summer thread to sleep.

    Rode at Ft. Sask today. Trails are/were in great condition and it's great to see the constant trail improvements on the West end.
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    Hey guys. I live in Edmonton and and love the terwilligar trails. What are some othe local trails? I have ridden ones near McNally school and some on the west end by the museum. Any others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spadmike
    Hey guys. I live in Edmonton and and love the terwilligar trails. What are some othe local trails? I have ridden ones near McNally school and some on the west end by the museum. Any others?
    There are a lot more trails - easiest ones to find would be by the Kinsmen Field House, Old Timer's Cabin and Strathcona Science Park.
    edit: Oops - forgot to mention Mill Creek as well.
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    Been out five times since the thread was created and last night was the best riding conditions this past week. Almost all the rain puddles are gone, leaving only a few thicker mud sections.

    Mill Creek is all good, Old Timer's Cabin is all good, Kinsmen area is good, and rooty trail is good to go as well.

    LOTS of riders out last night. Looked like about 6 riders from Hardcore, at least 10 from PedalHead, and quite a few one offs including me. Trails are fast, dry, and wide open with the leaves down. Last night's weather looks to only be equalled by tonights warm conditions as well.

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    Rode Terwilliger last night from 7-9pm. There was nobody in the park. Rode with a co-worker and it was a bit spooky not seeing anybody at all. At least with Mill Creek and Kinsmen, you always manage to see somebody. There are ten times as many rabbits in Terwilliger as there are in Mill Creek.

    Terwilliger is dry and fast, but the singletrack leading into the park from the Henday bridge is potholed pretty good from riders riding when the trails were wet. The pot holes are deep enough to really kill any flow that you get. Too bad.

    Somebody put out some fresh ladder bridges in Mill Creek. They are super easy to spot at night as they have been freshly painted white. They literally glow when the lights from the bike hit them. To whomever laid out the five or so ladders, thanks!

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    How do we fix the potholes?

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    The little ladder bridges "bridge" the potholes, but to permanently fix, have to do trail work and back fill. The problem is that with our crappy weather this year, most were forced to ride trails that were wet, or not ride at all. I personally wouldn't have ridden Terwilliger wet as it's all clay and gums up the bike pretty fast. Thankfully, it only seems to be the rollcoaster single track that's messed up. To ultimatley fix, need a group of riders with shovels and start levelling out the potholes.

    If you hit Mill Creek, you'll see that the fresh ladders are to straddle areas that would turn into potholes if ridden extensively. The ladders eventually get pushed down into the soil and you've eventually end up with a pretty cool bridge to ride accross.

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    I would like to do something but I am not really sure where to start. Do you think the city would be willing to help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri
    Terwilliger is dry and fast, but the singletrack leading into the park from the Henday bridge is potholed pretty good from riders riding when the trails were wet. The pot holes are deep enough to really kill any flow that you get. Too bad.
    The problem is the trails were built poorly without proper drainage. I rode the rollercoaster and it is easy to keep momentum - you just have to rail the 3" wide ridge and you can fly. I'm sure it is a lot easier said than done during the daylight rather than trying to find a line with your lights.
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    The City's involvement would be to bobcat the trail and pave it, so that it is "accessible" to all users. Much like the City did with the single track that used to take you from the bridge all the way to the park, half of that is gone and is now a developed mulit-purpose paved path.

    It'll be local clubs, or some random people with shovels, that will fix, or not fix the problems. You can see where the singletrack is widening around these holes as riders ride around them when they are wet.

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    jkirkpatri is right . The city isn`t the greatest for trail maintenance . Throwing down a ton of woodchips is another way of maintaining the trails for them . There was a guy who posted on here who was a part of the Edmonton mountain bike alliance link to site here His mtbr name was Spacemonkey so you could alway`s try sending him a message on here . The EMBA used to do trail work this time of year and he would post on here looking for volunteers .
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    Did a 2.5 hour ride with Gord962 in Terwilliger today. The new stuff on the south west side of the Henday bridge is freakin' scary! Other than a few OMG! (okay, more than a few, but less than 15!)moments on this new stuff, the rest of the ride back in the regular park area was uneventful, but plenty fun.

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    What new stuff!

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    Cameron Heights side, south side of the bridge. It's on the opposite bank accross from the golf course. Once you ride into the area, you'll see the trail. Access it by taking the paved path up to the south west side of the bridge and go over the retaining wall that's about a foot and half tall. Ride straight towards the trees - can't miss it.

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    I didn't even see this thread, I thought everyone died off in the summer edition. Anyways, Been off the XC bike since august when I rode out to spruce grove, just have to get my cranks and BB back in and a few small things, I'll be back on it.

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    Rode terwillieger today and it was a blast. Lot of people out! Lots of dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spadmike
    Rode terwillieger today and it was a blast. Lot of people out! Lots of dogs.
    I'll say there were a lot of people/dogs out. Some mutt had his dog running wild and the dog bit the guy I was riding with. The dog bit him hard enough to break the skin. What does the owner say? "Hmmmm - he's never done that before. It doesn't look too bad, I think you'll be fine."

    Nice friggin' attitude. It's not like we were going fast, we were climbing out of the park after 2.5 hrs of riding and there was a ton of traffic on the path - no room to go fast even if we had the gas to sprint up the hill.

    I have 2 dogs who can have questionable behavior at times, but thankfully they limit their poor choices to other dogs (not ideal, but dogs can handle it.) If they EVER even nipped at someone, let alone bite a person, (cyclist, jogger, walker, etc.) I would have aplogoized profusely, given my cotact info and the dog would be leashed for the rest of the walk. This person didn't even apologize for the actions of his dog. Probably the same guy who refuses to pick up after his dog when it drops a duece in the middle of the trail. It made me ashamed to be a dog owner. It's an off leash park, not an out of control park!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri
    Cameron Heights side, south side of the bridge. It's on the opposite bank accross from the golf course. Once you ride into the area, you'll see the trail. Access it by taking the paved path up to the south west side of the bridge and go over the retaining wall that's about a foot and half tall. Ride straight towards the trees - can't miss it.
    The trail is called 'Breathless'. Here is a video from earlier this year riding it from the end point back to the start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z12IvrUN0pE. This video significanly hides the actual steepness of the climbs and descents.
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    thanks for the vid! Looks like fun.

    Going to have to hit that ride up. So I'm confused though, it's on the south side? But opposite bank from the golf course (Windermere GCC)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil
    thanks for the vid! Looks like fun.

    Going to have to hit that ride up. So I'm confused though, it's on the south side? But opposite bank from the golf course (Windermere GCC)?
    The bridge runs east to west, so yes, it's on the south side of the bridge. So long as you're on the opposite side of the golf course, you're good to go.

    Mill Creek ladder bridges have all vanished except for one. Not sure if the builder took them away, or someobdy just hawked them. Mill Creek is dry, and a lot of the trails are pretty dusty right now.

    Saw two bats on last night's ride, which is a first for me. Only saw a handful of riders, even though it was a good night to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri
    The bridge runs east to west, so yes, it's on the south side of the bridge. So long as you're on the opposite side of the golf course, you're good to go.

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    Yeah, this is the part that confuses me.....the golf course is on the south side, so opposite that would be the north side. Unless you are talking about the golf course that is further east?

    I'm really not familiar with the area (aside from riding to terw. from the University) so bear with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri
    The bridge runs east to west, so yes, it's on the south side of the bridge. So long as you're on the opposite side of the golf course, you're good to go.
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    Yeah, this is the part that confuses me.....the golf course is on the south side, so opposite that would be the north side. Unless you are talking about the golf course that is further east?
    That portion on the river runs more N/S, the bridge runs E/W. The golf course is on the east bank, Breathless is on the West bank, South of the bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by civil
    thanks for the vid! Looks like fun.

    Going to have to hit that ride up. So I'm confused though, it's on the south side? But opposite bank from the golf course (Windermere GCC)?
    Opposite River Ridge golf course
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    Opposite River Ridge golf course

    Ahhh, got it.

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    No activity in this thread for a while. Are you snowed in?

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    Yes.......it'll be a while before I get brave enough to start snow riding again.....

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    Hi folks, I'm new here but have been lurking for a bit. This will be my second winter commuting, and some of my favourite riding was last jan/feb. This was the trip home on monday:



    I'm still pretty new to this, but I'm starting to be bitten by the single-speed bug (kindof planning what my next bike will be...if I can find space for it) So a question for the single-speeders - are there some hills that you just never get good enough to beat? I'm not thinking of the long climbs where you just stand up and plug away. I'm thinking about those trails where you climb a bit, into a few tight turns, and then right into another steep, steep hill. Once you get good enough is it all doable, or are there still a few hills that you can tackle when geared but you avoid while ss?

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    I think it depends on how you want your bike geared and where you do most of your riding. I am currently building a 29er rigid SS and I am planning on gearing it so there are certain climbs that I can make (first climb on the Edmonton Canada Cup course is going to be my measuring stick) and if there are others I can't make then they will be hike-a-bike sections. What I don't want to happen is be spinning too fast in the single track. I will probably start with a 32-18 combo and see how that works, making small adjustments from there. I think there will always be climbs that you just can't do on a SS but I don't think you need to avoid them. I would still try to climb them and see how far I can make it up and try to improve on that the next time you get to that climb.
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    It is supposed to warm up for the weekend. It may be muddy. I like the idea of a rigid 29er

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    Thanks Gord.

    I guess specifically I'm thinking of a couple of the short but steep hills on the Groat Road Roller coaster. For the last little while I've been trying them in 32 and 18~22, and they are just not happening. I'm just goofing around so I'm sure I've got lots of room for improvement, but right now they sure don't seem possible.

    And a rigid 29er is what I'm thinking too. The Karate Monkey is what I've got my eye on because it's also got a derailleur hanger, but I've heard the short chainstays make it tough to use a rack. If I got one I'd be using it as a (slow) commuter in the mornings, and hitting the trails on the way home. So I've got to do some more research, and spend the next 6 months irreparably trashing my winter bike so I've got an excuse to get something new.

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    If you are looking for one off the shelf, the Kona Units are a great deal, and the 2011s look awesome!
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    Thanks. You can get the Karate Monkey off the shelf too, but the kona's msrp is definitely a little bit cheaper (I think the KM has come down in price for 2011, but no idea what it goes for locally). I was just taking a look at the kona, and I like how they've made the hanger/dropouts modular.

    This thread sure makes them seem versatile, which is why I'm so tempted...but...must...wait.

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    Here is another good thread on the Unit: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=643001
    edit: and a ride report here: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...56135#poststop
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    Anyone know the history of terwilliger trails and how they got there? I am curious about the broken concrete bits. Was just a dumping ground in the past? Did they have anything to do with the gold rush (My imagination getting the best of me)?

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    I've been told that it's an old rock crushing site.

    Edit: start here and research the references: http://www.rivervalley.ab.ca/media/u...al-history.pdf

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    4.5 hrs on the trails today. Trails are slick in a lot of places with either frost or a light layer of greasy mud which made it tough to keep the rubber down. Good times!
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    I was out on saturday morning, and was slipping all over the place on invisible frost. Fun, but my rear wheel tried to take off on me a couple of times. Today was mostly the greasy mud. My bike is filthy, but the drivetrain stayed spotless.

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    Rode today and it was amazing. Lots of guys and it was especially nice to see the group of five cute ladies riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spadmike
    Rode today and it was amazing. Lots of guys and it was especially nice to see the group of five cute ladies riding.
    I'll bet you were riding in Terwillegar in the afternoon. My buddy I was riding with in the morning said his g/f and her friends were heading out there later in the day. Those girls can shred...
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    Terwillegar on Sunday was awesome. Some of the best conditions of the year. Great sightlines with the leaves down too. Best thing about riding now is that they are all bonus days. Not a bad season when you can ride in Edmonton from March - Nov with dirt under your tires.

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    Yep, was out last night. Terw. was great. Fingers crossed for another week

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    Actually got out for a ride in Terwillegar today! Great conditions, fairly quiet, but the main access route into the park was super busy with dogs and walkers.

    My girlfriend and I rode Breathless up until the clearing, then turned around and cut back on the edge of the field. It feels like it would flow MUCH better riding it back towards the bridge, and it definitely needs to be ridden in some more.

    It looks like the trail is flagged and is being worked on past the clearing. Has anyone ridden it right to the end?
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    Gord and I have ridden it to the end a couple of times now. I actually like the part past the meadow much better...and you're right, it rides WAY better heading back to the bridge. It's pretty loose in some sections on the way back to the bridge, but it's still a lot more fun heading back than heading out.

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    The breathless trail, if I do the roller coaster towards the Henday Bridge and cross the bridge, do I turn left at the end of the bridge and just go until I find it?

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    Yes, go to the end of the bridge (Cameron Height side) and turn off the bike path, jump the foot retaining wall, and head straight towards the trees. You'll see the trail easily. As a confirmation, there are two log hops (or is it one) right at the beginning of the trail.

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    Did the Breathless Trail. It was a nice extension to the regular trails I do in Terwillegar. Tons of dog walkers and fair bit of riders. There was a group of about 5 XC riders ripping it. I did two solid rides yesterday and 2.5 hour one today! I love riding the trails here. I think we are quite lucky to have what we do considering where we are! Hopefully this is not the last one. The time change kills the daylight before I will be able to go throughout the week and weather seems to be getting cold. Maybe it is time to get into night riding with a light!

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    Terwilliger at night is VERY cool! Try it out.

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    As above. Night riding is lots of fun, adds excitement to trails that you may have memorized (IMO).

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    Couldn`t agree more with you guys ! Night riding adds a whole new "awesome" element to riding .
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    Did two hours today. Snow Valley to Fox Drive. Rode the trails below Sask Drive over to Hawrelak Park. Over to McKinnon Ravine. Trails are the best I've seen all year. Hope we get a couple more days! www.ridethe780.wordpress.com

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    I thought that the trails in Snow Valley were off limits to bikes. Has this changed, or am I wrong? I've never ridden down there due to my impressions of it being a restricted area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri
    I thought that the trails in Snow Valley were off limits to bikes. Has this changed, or am I wrong? I've never ridden down there due to my impressions of it being a restricted area.
    You are correct, those trails are restricted. It is unfortunate as there is a ton of potential for great ST in there.
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    Please let me give some more information. The Whitemud Nature Reserve is closed to bicycles. This area is on the south side of the Whitemud. It is signed as such. I ride what was called Rainbow Valley back in the day. This is directly east of Snow Valley. There are some trails in there that you can ride. Mostly climbs and short descents. From there I ride across to the University farm. You can then link up to Fox Drive. Sorry if I gave the impression that I was riding the Whitemud Nature Reserve (what most MTB'ers call Snow Valley.) As part of getting more trails to ride (as Edmonton opened more singletrack and multi-use) it's a small price to pay to have that area closed. It is an ON LEASH area as well. Nice place to take a walk and enjoy park.

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    Good ride today at Terwillegar with jkirkpatri and sherijumper. A review of the trail as well as some pics can be found on my blog (see signature link) Here are a few other pics that didn't make the cut:
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    Nice, trails are in great condition.....hoping to get out tonight.......

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    Looks like our extended Autumn is coming to an abrupt end as the forecast shows us getting snow this week. Does anyone else continue to ride the trails in the snow? I am actually looking forward to snow riding this year. It adds a whole new level of difficulty to trails that seem quite easy.
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    I usually wait for abit until the trails get packed down, but I like to hit some of the main ones in the kinsman/millcreek and terw. areas. Last (winter) season I rode on a rigid bike which I recently took apart......not sure what I will ride this winter.....maybe my fixie

    Yeah, I'm hoping for maybe one more ride before the snow falls and someone starts that damned winter riding thread

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    I'll still be riding the trails through the winter. Mostly the central stuff from Buena Vista park down to Millcreek. The dog parks are great, because they get good and packed down. My studded 1.9's aren't wide enough to open up any singletrack, though.

    Gotta say, I'm looking forward to the snow. I've got some cheap lights that worked fine for me all last winter, but since the end of daylight-savings-time it's seemed awfully dark out there. I realized I need some of the white stuff on the ground to brighten things up a bit.

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    Oh, and anyone ridden Victoria Secret recently? I think that a whole bunch of the trees have recently been cut down between the trail and the top of the bank? (although it may have always been like that, and I just never noticed before? Not 100% sure). It's on the big curve, between a few of the "campsites." I'm wondering if maybe the city will be putting a stairwell in there, although it would be a weird place for one.

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    I was there a few weeks ago and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, We started from the staircase all the way to overpass over Groat Road and didn't notice anything...
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    I just noticed it on the weekend. It's right downhill from the lots that are fenced off at the corner of 125st. On google maps there are trees there, so I know I'm not completely crazy. But I don't know how many times I rode past without noticing.

    The city is just finishing adding a stairs from the empty lot on 114st down to the paved path that runs along the golfcourse. That's what got me wondering about the 125st spot, because that condo won't be happening anytime soon either.

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    That was just about perfect winter riding.

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    Just stopping by to say it looks like we need a "Riding in Edmonton - Winter 2010" thread and to say hi.

    Have been really busy with the riding and building thing here...
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    Here's my 2010 winter ride... 1988 Kuwahara Shasta with a Sturmey Archer AG (3 speed w/ generator).

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    Where exactly was the picture taken Sixtyfiver ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherijumper
    Where exactly was the picture taken Sixtyfiver ?
    Down by the river just a stone's throw from Laurier park... looking behind me I could see the Quesnell bridge.



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    ^ during the summer, you could ride the river bank from the pedistrian bridge all the way to the edmonton boaters building.

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    I got my first snow ride of the year in today. Went on the intergroup ride from DeCapo and headed out to Terwillegar. I could feel my toes starting to get cold just before Ft. Edmonton park so I headed back with a few other guys decided to bail before my feet turned to a block of ice. Trails were still a bit soft - some more foot traffic over the next week will help. It was a bit more work than I remember keeping the rubber side down due to the snow being loose.
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    A good strategy for cold toes is to get off and hike and bike for a bit... it is supposed to drop to -31C tonight and for the first time in a very long time I drove this evening and was reminded how much I hate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
    A good strategy for cold toes is to get off and hike and bike for a bit... it is supposed to drop to -31C tonight and for the first time in a very long time I drove this evening and was reminded how much I hate it.
    That's what started the problem. I don't have winter shoes yet so I am using those useless friggin' booties. On the hike-a-bike through the bottom the toes came up and I got snow in my vents.
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    Have sealed the bottoms of my shoes and added a felt insole which makes my winter shoes good to about -15 with covers... after that it is winter boots all the way.
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    Killer ride yesterday and the temperature was perfect. We went on a new trail just off the new foot bridge over by Fort Edmonton Park. The trail is SW of the bridge, I'm sure it can link to Breathless. 8 guys plowing through untouched powder sure makes for some tough slogging when you are the 7th guy. It was especially hard since 6/8 were Expert/Elite and they were hauling ass and I was struggling to keep up when trail conditions were good. Anyone else get out this weekend?
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    After the deepfreeze ended last week I started detouring on my commute home again. The path around the Mayfair golfcourse was the choppiest place I rode and had me wishing for a Pugsley. I bet I barely averaged a walking pace the whole way along there.

    Then on saturday I did a central loop on my "summer" bike. Wanted to see how fairly pudgy kenda 2.1s handled compared to my skinny 1.9 studs, and it went pretty well. I had some challenges on bits of the canadacup trail by the Kinsmen, but based on all of the other sets of footprints through there I wasn't the only one.

    Also rode down a couple of tempting toboggan hills. Is there etiquette for winter riding in places like Hawrelak and Victoria golfcourse? There's something fun about pedaling through a giant field of powder, but I never know if I should or not.

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    The UC ride on Sat rode the entire Canada Cup course. I think it would be frowned upon if you rode on the golf course but the rest of the open fields should be fine (Terwillegar for example)
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    I might have beaten the UC ride through. There had been riders through before me, but I don't think it was a big group.

    And thinking about it a bit more, I guess what I was really wondering was how to deal with x-country routes. The skiers have already taken over the multi-use trail that runs around Hawrelak/Mayfair. The other trail along there is horses/no-bikes, but that's where I'll be riding all winter since I don't really want to mess up their tracks. But they also crisscross the open section of Hawrelak, and running parallel through there could be fun.

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    The UC ride had only 3 or 4 so it was mostly likely them.

    We always use the horse trail around Hawrelak - I have never seen a horse on that trail in two years and never even seen horse tracks in the winter. Considering we use it every week, I am certain there isn't any horses that use the trail all winter.
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    Yeah, I've never seen horses (or any evidence of horses) along there, so I'm not worried. But it made me realize that the parkland bylaw never anticipated winter cycling, or that skiers and cyclists might coexist.

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    A few weeks ago I mentioned that I thought some trees were cut down off of Victoria Secret. Finally went back with a camera today:



    It must be pretty recent, since it doesn't show on google's 2010 imagery. It's a utility ROW though, and at the top of the hill there's a bunker for a City pumping station.

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    I wonder if they cut the trees to do some work on the power lines?
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    You can't really tell in that first pic, but there's a switchback path running down the hill:



    I wouldn't really want to move any equipment down it though. But who knows.

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    Nope. Not if that is where I think it is....future end of pipe stormwater treatment facility going in along Groat Road just north of Gov't House Park. Probably running power down for when it is built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spadmike
    Anyone know the history of terwilliger trails and how they got there? I am curious about the broken concrete bits. Was just a dumping ground in the past? Did they have anything to do with the gold rush (My imagination getting the best of me)?
    Hi I'm new to this forum but old for the biking community.

    So you asked.

    The park was a gravel pit until the early 80's. Mostly used by motoX

    The wide hill trails were cut for X-skiing while the lower multi track were cut slightly after. The park was not officially off leash until the 90's

    The single track has a much more eclectic past.

    I was a member of one of the first mountain bike groups in Edmonton in the early 80's. We had be looking for local trails quite abit and Terwilligar was one of the best untouched areas outside the city parks system . Yes there were few house back then.

    One year Two Wheel Resource won the bid for the Provincial championships, Pissed Calgary of big time.

    Most of the single track were animal or beaver tracks back then, your arms would be whipped after a day crashing through the under brush. Anyway, there was a team of about 10 that cleared and prepped the trails. The sewer line on the east entrance to the park was the first major descent in the race.

    The upper single tracks were created by running a lawnmower through the grass. Again there were double tracks already but most of those have since grown over and are now single tracks. There were also alot of gravel mounds which are now treed over.

    2wheel had races after, (Mudpuppy) as well Uventus hosted a couple. I think one was call the Nightmare in Terwilligar. Also the Police and Firefighters Games hosted a MTB race. The firefighters trail was expanded by them, specifically Greg Menard. And yes Roller coaster was around back then as well.

    The original Brirky was run on those double track trails from Devon.

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    Yuppers... The nice, wide trail from Whitemud Road down to the parking area is the old gravel truck access road. Some of the concrete bits are part of the fill they used to fill in the holes (the little lakes in the northwest part are the result of some areas not being completely backfilled).

    Surprisingly, a lot of the areas we like for parks and biking are former gravel pits (Hawrelak Park, Rundle Park) or railway areas (Mill Creek).
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    Overall I think it took 5 years to develop the trails in Terwilligar. That and 10 stitches in the foot from the axe.

    Rundel was both a gravel pit and a dump. At least the golf course section was. The great meadow north of Beauna Vista was a dumping site as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augerin
    Overall I think it took 5 years to develop the trails in Terwilligar. That and 10 stitches in the foot from the axe.

    Rundel was both a gravel pit and a dump. At least the golf course section was. The great meadow north of Beauna Vista was a dumping site as well.
    Yup,

    Back in the day, the easiest way to fill in a gravel pit was to put garbage into it. Heck, Louise McKinney park was a former dump, Muttart had the old City Incinerator...lots of old gravel pits, dumps, railways and coal mines in Edmonton. Heck, if you're ever on the Riverside golf course, you can blame the former coal mine for all the hummocks.
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