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    OHVs allowed in parks...could your riding place be next?

    So there is a big push to get the CRD to change their bylaws and allow OHV's at Harbourview (and Broomhill to a lesser extent). This movement has the support of the Sooke mayor and the mayor of Metchosin. After a few years of
    fighting and going through the process, we were weeks away from getting this designated a bike park (like the dump
    but with hiking too). Now the OHV group with support from some CRD staff have tabled it and are looking to "review"
    the park, which could mean a few more years of going through the "process".

    Then end result will be quads and MX's on mtb trails. Even now with the gate closed and posted "no motorized vehicles"
    OHVs have been ripping up quite a bit of our trails. If the gates are open, you can say goodbye to these trails. We need
    the support of anyone, and if you guys could find the time to write a letter, it would help. Of importance is mentioning
    that you would no longer want to come to our city to ride bike and SPEND MONEY in Sooke if there's no place to ride without
    OHVs.

    This is the groups FB page:http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...d=236921441704

    Some of the destruction they cause:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZQm...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA2ri...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzops...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5nHS...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=918wf...eature=related



    If you need talking points:

    FOR MTBing:
    *Health benefits of MTBing
    *Low impact/footprint
    -http://www.imba.com/resources/science/trail_shock.html
    -http://www.imba.com/resources/scienc...mpey_2007.html
    *History of trail maintenance volunteering
    *Involving youngsters will help reduce drug use
    -http://www.ehow.com/way_5325092_drug...-children.html

    AGAINST OHV's:
    *Habitat destruction
    -http://www.glorietamesa.org/ohv-orv-facts-sheet.php
    -http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/ohvdamageaccount/index.html (it's so bad in Minnesota they have a state fund to pay land owners for damage).
    -http://www.glorietamesa.org/in-the-news.php
    *Noise (many OHV's don't have good muffler systems)
    *Dangerous to hikers and bikers (high speeds, vehicle traffic where people are hiking)
    *Displace wildlife
    *If they open the HV road, how much will it cost to maintain it with all the extra
    traffic?


    Contact information (BE POLITE, CURSING AND ANGER WILL NOT HELP):
    (CRD staff) http://www.crd.bc.ca/about/board/directors/index.htm
    (Sooke council and mayor) http://www.sooke.ca/EN/main/contacts/feedback.php

    The OHV people argue that they have no place to ride...not true, they have WAY more places
    to OHV than we do to ride a bike or hike.

    Examples:
    Stamp Mountain
    Boneyard main
    Butler main
    Neild road motorbike club property
    Jordan River trials trails
    Olifant lk
    Burnt bridge
    Bamberton
    Emerald forest (west Shawnigan)
    Western Speedway dirt bike track
    ...these are just the ones I know about, I don't OHV.

    If the CRD allows OHVs in parks, this could have implications throughout the province.
    This would set a precedent for other local, federal and provincial land managers.

    Please help.
    Last edited by kauaibullit; 03-21-2010 at 11:26 AM.

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    I definitely don't want quads and motorbikes and 4X4s messing up Broom Hill and HV. Thanks for raising this on MTBR.

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    That won't be happening in Alberta...I'll bet you a million bucks.

    OHV are more likely to be banned from the areas they have now before they get granted any more freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokes
    That won't be happening in Alberta...I'll bet you a million bucks.

    OHV are more likely to be banned from the areas they have now before they get granted any more freedom.

    We thought that too.

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    Your Facebook link doesn't work. What's the name of the group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySmoke
    Your Facebook link doesn't work. What's the name of the group?
    Try and cut/paste this:
    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=236921441704

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    Quote Originally Posted by kauaibullit
    We thought that too.
    We know it. It won't happen around here, OHV s are under big scrutiny right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokes
    We know it. It won't happen around here, OHV s are under big scrutiny right now.

    We have a CRD PARK, no motorized vehicles allowed. I'm pretty sure there's no motorized vehicles
    allowed in any government designated park in Canada. So we "knew it" as well. Alls it takes is
    some politicians, money and a bunch of rednecks. I hope you're right, but Harbourview is an example
    that ANYTHING can happen when you didn't even think it was an option.

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    It won't happen. The horse riding groups wouldn't allow it they're the one with the cash in Alberta. The dirt bag quad and BST (big stupid truck) owners all live in the trailer park.

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