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    Edmonton Spring/Summer 2014

    Hopefully the trails will be ready soon. Can't wait to start riding on dirt again and in warmer weather.

    Fat biking is ok but riding in Edmonton's cold weather honestly sucks.

    Looks like there are many trail disruptions this season due to construction. Looks like there will be a need to carve out new single track to replace ones that were lost or going to be lost.

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    Excellent. Good to see a spring/summer thread up. I've only been on my fatbike once in the past couple of weeks as I really hate riding in the mud. Road bike ride planned for this weekend out in the country. Hopefully the warming trend that we'll see this week will continue and we can get some of the packed snow melting. I'm pretty anxious for the snow to be gone seeing as how we've had for so long this past season.

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    We've had some pretty big melting spells already. If we're lucky the North side of the river should clear up soon.
    Gave the cross bike a spin to work this morning, nice to be out after a winter of skiing!

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    The cold spell of the last two weeks has actually been okay, since it's meant two weeks of firm trails and not much mud. Next week we're supposed to get rain and temperatures in the teens, which will hopefully clear things up.

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    I hope it melts quick and dries out for you. I always found Spring hard on my patience.
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    I should mention that Victoria Secret probably won't be affected by the bridge contstruction, since the second entrance is well south of the area they've cleared. And I assume the Groat Rollercoaster will probably be fine too - won't really know until they put the fences up, but I figure it will just have an extra steep drop/hike at the south end.

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    Is Victoria Secret any good? I think I've rode that trail once, based on directions I found on the Edmonton threads, but the trail wasn't very fun, and I think I ran over at least 2 homeless camps.
    Perhaps I had the wrong trail? It comes out of groat ravine on the east side and wraps around below the victoria promenade?

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    It's a pretty good trail for our river valley. Drop in / exit just south of the 102 ave / Grout road bridge. It rolls a tad on the steep side relative to the rest of the river valley trails, rooty and off camber. You will find the odd homeless camp up there, but no different than anywhere else. You've got a fair number of route choices in the middle.

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    Hey Newfangled, do you know when and where the new southside bikeworks shop will open?

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    ^ It's just a block away from the old location, in what used to be the Videodrome on 102st and 80ave. https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll...,47.31,,0,3.99



    Orientation for returning volunteers is next week, and the opening may be on Saturday April 12? But they're apparently still waiting for a permit or something from the city, so it might be delayed another week or two? If they make the official announcment I'll try to remember to repost it here. I'm eager to get back at it.

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    Excellent! Thanks for the update. I've got some miscellaneous part donations I've been accumulating and the south location is super convenient for me for drop off.

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    Took my "summer" bike out today for the first time this year, and got filthy. So much mud at the seatstay bridge that I locked up the rear wheel. Blah.

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    ^ Ya, I took my "summer" bike out a few weeks ago for a ride (the last nice spell before the latest cool/snow). Big Mistake. I probably spent more time getting mud out of/off my bike then I did riding it, and I've already put the fat bike away for the season. It's official the off season for me for the next week or two.

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    If I had looked on here before going out today, I might have stuck to a road ride. At least when things were cold, everything was relatively solid, I guess it comes with the changing of seasons. Been road ridding my new bike, thought I'd get off the concrete path a little today. Big Mistake. Slush, water and gobs and gobs of mud. This was just on the multi use gravel paths. I didn't even attempt any of the single track. Washed the new bike up and I think I'll stick to the old beater for the next couple weeks. It sure does feel good to ride in the nice weather though.

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    Not sure what to expect for the weekend, but right now things are pretty gross. Today the river suddenly has no ice left on it, though.

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    Another weekend, another road bike ride for myself. I think we're another good couple of weeks away from any good riding in the river valley.

    Saw that the river was almost ice-free this morning while crossing the low level bridge. Weird how it seems to happen all of a sudden.

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    Depends on the location though. There was still plenty of ice on the river by the zoo last night. From below, it looked like Victoria's Secret might be drying up, but I wouldn't count on anywhere else for a while yet.

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    Yeah, I walked the dog on Victoria secret this morning, and it's half dry/half mud. The couple of other northbank trails are probably similar.

    For southbank though, I was on Keillor yesterday and it's all ice and mud. And it's probably one of the sunniest of the southbank trails.

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    Millcreek = mud
    Also whatever the city is doing down there ain't helping either as they have some single track blocked off and a huge mud fest where they are driving in the HD equipment.

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    The Mill Creek work is related to drainage. Last year (or was it two years ago?), there were a bunch of sinkholes by the big culverts and the City is fixing them, albeit at the expense of some trail carnage.

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    I actually did end up going for a ride today, and things weren't bad. I took lower ewok, which was a mistake - the northeast 3/4 was good, but the last quarter was terrible. Dirty mattress has some weird frozen ponds in the middle of it, but a lot of stuff was pretty rideable.

    And it turns out I was wrong about the groat rollercoaster. The city has put their staging area at the southend, so they've blocked off a really big area. So maybe it will be out of commission until fall 2015?

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    Did another road ride yesterday. With the cool temperatures and wind, my toes were frozen by the end of the ride. Worse than winter riding.

    First Hardcore group ride goes tonight. Will report back on the trails. I suspect we will be on the north side of the river, MUT and paved for the most part.

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    ^ I hear you on the cold toes. I wore my summer socks yesterday, and was hurting by the time I got home.

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    Has anyone been to Terwilliger? I was thinking of checking it out tonight, would it be worth a look?

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    I'd pass. Terwilliger has a lot of clay, so any moisture in the ground can clog up your drivetrain right away. The open area would be fine, but any treed areas (i.e. the good parts) are likely to be wet and sticky still.

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    Ok thanks for the update.

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    North side multis and single track pretty good. Some mud and water holes here and there in the single track on the north side trails from the Queen E to Gold Park. South side of the river has snow and lots of mud, so all paved paths taken on the loop back.

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    I was at Terwilleger on the Weekend, and It was pretty bad. Most of the large open walking paths are rid-able, but any of the single track is just muck.

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    Went out at lunch hoping to try Keillor and the equine centre, but I gave up pretty quickly. There wasn't enough mud to lock my wheel up or anything, but things were already pretty badly rutted. Stuck to the pavement instead.

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    Has anyone found any trails in SW Edmonton other than those at Terwilleger? Not sure what's in the south whitemud ravine. I know the blackmud creek is a nature centre (23 ave bottom of the hill) with tones of no bike signs but I'm not sure about whitemud ravine.

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    There's a trail south of Henday bridge on along west river bank called "breathless" was good few seasons back but from what I've heard from others last season was that it was all grown in and difficult to ride without bush wacking. Probably cause no trail maintenance done. Also the fact that the trail ends on private property and sometimes met with unfriendly farmer with a sickle isn't to welcoming for fellow mtb ers.

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    Breathless was cleaned out a fair ways last summer. Last I rode it (Early November) it did end earlier than it originally did in a pile of downed trees, but it's still worth the trip from Terwillegar.

    I'm not sure if there's anything in Whitemud south of 23rd ave, or whether that's closed to biking too, but everything north of 23rd ave is closed to bikes.

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    So do you cross the Terwillegar bridge onto the Cameron Heights side to access Breathless or is the trail on the west side of the bridge still south of the river?

    This forum post is awesome. Got out on Monday and got a bit muddy but it was awesome.

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    You cross over the foot bridge underneath to the west side of the river. There's a retaining box around the pad on the west side of the bridge, and you should be able to see the trail heading south directly from the retaining box.

    Shows up pretty clearly here, and continues south along the west side of the river.

    https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/53.46...!1m0!1m0?hl=en

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    Trails were great in the river valley for my fat bike today. No mud but it's going to get worse with the warmer temps. I took my studded Dillingers off earlier in the week and put on the Bud and Lou for the first time and it was a blast. I can't believe how big those tires are.

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    Did anyone get any rides in edmonton today? Looking at driving in for a ride tomorrow night. Rode in Fort Sask red carpet trail is clear.

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    I got out today. North side of river from muttart to science Park was good. South side was decent. All of this is MUTs. Probably another two weeks for the south side ST to dry out. Group ride tomorrow night and I'm sure they'll be more exploring then. I'll post back with trail conditions.

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    Thanks for the update! We're probably 2 weeks for the rest of the singletrack in the fort.

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    I was out of town on the weekend, but got out for a ride on Monday morning. I did almost all of my usual summer loop - down to Goldbar, and then west through mckinnon.

    I skipped rowland because it looked too snowy, but everything else was pretty good. Mostly snow-free, pretty dry, no big ruts or mudholes, and generally nicely rideable. The trail in the worst shape was the natural pumptrack by the mickinney bridge, and even it was in decent shape. I took the ss and stayed pretty clean, but it was first thing in the morning, so things were still chilly.

    I wonder what's with the homeless camps this year? There are a lot of them which isn't unusual, but so many of them have garbage strewn for 100' in every direction. It's not just the dirty mattress guy, because I saw 3 others that were comparable to that. The amount of filth this year is really depressing.

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    So were you on the south side of the river?

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    Yeah, the 2-part goldbar trail, cadillac, upper ewok, birdhouse, the pumptrack, oldtimers, dirtymattress, that trail off 90ave below QE hill, kinsmen, and around the uofa. I skipped Rowland and completely forgot about skyline.

    I started around 8:30 and finished by 11, so things were warming up by the time I got home. I didn't really have any issues, beyond the fact that I was trying a bigger gear on my singlespeed this year, and it turns out it's too big for a couple of those trails.

    There's one big puddle in the middle of dirty mattress, random snow here and there, a couple of greasy sections, and lots of downed trees.

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    Cool I think we'll head that way tonight then. Thanks again.

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    I hear you on the homeless camps. Dawson area is pretty bad, so bad that the Edmonton Sun has a couple of write ups on it. Our group ride last Monday ended up going through an abandoned homeless camp that had garbage everywhere.

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    ^ I started at dawson today, and that's what blew me away. Dropping in at Alex Taylor road it's pretty much solid garbage for the next km.

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    I did a loop around some of the single track out at sunridge this afternoon. With how open it is out there things are nice and dry. You still have to avoid some of the wetter low lying areas, but was quite impressed with the conditions overall. Still a few water holes along the multi-use south of the river in Goldbar. It's nice to see things drying up.

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    Trails were all good yesterday. Stuck to the north side of the river between Queen E and Goldbar Park and all ST was good. South side of the river on the way back was pretty good as well. Old Timer's Cabin area is not too bad, but still some snow/ice sections in some of the ST areas. Mill Creek on the upper east bank is all good, but the trail is very soft. Mill Creek trails down by the pool are a bit muddy still.

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    Southside of the river from Goldstick to QE Park was ridable. We needed to be mindful of some of the lower covered trails as they were still greasy. I don't know the trail names but did check a few singletacks and they were in good shape. Needs a few weeks to dry out completely (especially after the rain tomorrow) and most of EDM trails will be good.

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    Rode from Leg to Henrietta Louise Park and found that conditions were pretty solid on Monday, better on the N side of the river than S in my opinion. First time I had been though so please correct me if I am wrong.

    As I am a newbie, I was trying to figure out something: someone built a table top ramp over a tree on the trail at Irene Parlby Park (Rossdale) just before the 98 ave bridge. I really like that trail as I am a novice rider, but how to do I navigate the ramp? It looks too steep to simply jump, and I tore my shins up good and proper making a few passes at it Monday.

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    Rode the southside from Capilano to downtown, and everything was in great shape. Birdhouse was pretty slimy, and a couple of climbs were a little slippy, but hey, that's Edmonton.

    First real ride on the summerbike, and it came home pretty clean which is nice. Now that everyone is on fatbikes in the winter, does anyone else find it weird to go back to suspension? I ride my rigid bikes all winter, and in the spring it usually takes me quite awhile - like a couple of weeks - to really get the hang of my hardtail again.

    bodmanza, I'd like to help, and I know what trail you're talking about, but I don't know the tabletop. You say you're a newbie, but how much of a newbie are you? If you're completely new to this, there's some simple stuff like standing up, leveling your pedals, leaning your butt back, popping up the front and unweighting the rear...but if you already know all that I'm not sure what to say.
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    There were lots of people out on the trails today. Rode through all the single track just east of Walterdale. I don't know what this area is called (the singletrack that runs between the multi-Use gravel and the paved path?) No kidding about the homeless camps. There has to be 3 or 4 of them in this area. Then I swung over and did what I think everyone calls canada cup? (the singletrack loops between Emily Murphy park kinsmen. A little slippery, but not a lot of deep much. Good day for a ride

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    Has anyone been on the trail along the West side of Groat Rd up the ravine (roller coaster)? I was there today on my road bike and the south end is pretty much completely inaccessible without trespassing. I was hoping we could still drop in up there, but doesn't look good. From the bridge I could see orange fencing blocking off sections of the trail further north.

    I'm sure access is still good at the north end, but haven't tried it yet. Also, anyone know what the city's plans are for the rehab of this area? Will they incorporate the trail into their bridge/landscape design?

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    ^ at the northend of it the city has actually stuck a sign in the singletrack saying the trail is closed, but I haven't had a chance to ride it yet. Since the bridge is going to take 2 years I'm sure eventually someone (maybe just a dogwalker) will cut a new south entrance, but it'll be tricky since so much of it is blocked off at 102ave.

    Speaking of dogwalking, I walked Victoria Secret today and it's in good shape. Not sure how many riders it will see while the bridge is closed, since it doesn't really connect to anything anymore.

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    Upper and mid Ewok are all good. TNT is good. All trails on the north side of the river were good last night. All trails on the south side were good too. Went up to the pump house from Gold Bar park towards Cambodia and all was good. Pump house area was wet, so turned around as it'll just get worse the further you go in.

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    How do you know trail names? Is there a map of this somewhere?

    Rode north side of river from Leg to Rowland Road, then a bit on the north side. All seemed fairly dry save for a few minor muddy depressions.

    Haven't found any really interesting terrain outside of the little 100 m stretch next to Irene Parlby Park in Rossdale.

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    The easiest way to learn the trails (and trail names) is to join a bike club. The clubs have different names for different trails, but EMBA is working with the clubs to get signs up on the trails.

    Victoria's secret is still a great way to get into (or out of) McKinnon, just drop in behind the museum.

    We hit Old timers, the east Canada cup loop, Victoria's Secret, Root Canal and the top half of back breaker, and a bunch of the new fat bike trails in the dog parks. Everything was in great shape. The only place we found mud was Emily Murphy. The single track in there was still pretty wet, so we stuck to the multi use, which still has some snow.

    I've been itching to go check out Cambodia (and tea cup etc). Good to know it's still wet. Hopefully it'll clear up this weekend.

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    Did a quick ride around the equine centre at lunch. The area above it in the trees is in pretty good shape, and there's a bridge gap jump that I've never noticed before and will never, ever ride.

    The riverside trail along the equine centre is in the worst conditions of anything I've ridden recently - really badly rutted in spots, and still really muddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    ...and a bunch of the new fat bike trails in the dog parks.
    I'd been meaning to ask about this. Are "official" group rides using Buena Vista now? As far as I know this is still the city's stance.

    My dog doesn't like bikes, so I take her there specifically because the area between the zoo and the pedestrian bridge is the only offleash park where it should be possible to avoid bikes. But I've been seeing plenty of groups of 3 or 5 riders going through the west side of the park.

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    One of our riders called the city for clarification, and it's multi-use. The city has been planning to renovate / remove the old signs for a while.

    http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...y_13092013.pdf shows the trails as multi-use.

    Obviously it's still a dog park, so riders should be respectful of the dog walkers.

    That bridge gap has been there for a while and is pretty dilapidated.

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    ^ thanks, but that map still only shows the gravel freeway that's in the middleish of the park, and which is easy enough to avoid with a dog. It doesn't show anything on the west side of the park, even though there is singletrack there. And that's where I've been frequently seeing groups of bikes.

    There's also this map which shows the trail heading north towards mckinnon as being no-bikes, but that can't be right since it's not even in the dogpark anymore.

    Since the city has tried to pawn everything off on google their mapping has gone downhill.

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    So the north end of the Groat Rollercoaster is blocked with a sign and snowfence, although there is the second entry just a little further down.

    At the south end there's a series of snowfences. They start about 150' from the bridge, and then there's another just north of the ladderbridge, and another just south of it, and another one south of that. A new entry will be tough, because once you're north of the ladderbridge the trail and road are pretty far apart. Best bet will probably just be to drop down to the groat road mup since it's right there, or just skip it for a few years.

    Only one homeless guy in there today, who was nice enough to tell me the trail was closed.

    They were also doing some bobcat work right at the backup entry to Victoria Secret, but hopefully they're not making a mess of it.

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    ^ The Groat Road path next to the road is now closed until August. There are a series of signs in Glenora directing people to take Ramsay ravine trail (paved) or the "natural" trail that drops down on the east side of the museum to get down to the river valley.

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    Duh, I should have figured that would happen. I must have even seen one of those big signs in govt house park, but turned up Ramsay ravine before I could read it.

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    Im living in sherwood park right now and wondering if there are any good cross country trails around. preferably singletrack.
    thanks

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    Your best bet is Sunridge. I haven't been out there yet to see how it's drying out.

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    I really hope they take the Groat Rollercoaster trail into consideration when replanting the bridge area. That entry by the bridge on the south end was super fun to drop into, and a nice final push at the end of an already awesome trail. Kinda sucks that it's unrideable for the foreseeable future, but hopefully the fact that they are well aware of it means they'll restore it.

    I always thought Victoria's Secret was the trail that started on the southeast side of that bridge (across from Original Joes) and curved back east along the victoria golf course? It is actually the one that heads west under the museum into Mackinnon?

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    The city seriously has to clean up the squatters setting up camp in the river valley trail system. It's become rampant and the trash is spilling out all over the place. If the city has already committed to dumping loads of money into the beautifying the river valley w building bridges etc I don't think enforcing some no camp laws would be to much to ask.
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    I was wondering if anyone around here has reported the dirtymattress guy to the city? The garbage is bad enough, but the number of bikeparts in that area has exploded since he moved in. Just down from the camp there's a pile of wheels, and some niceish folding tires. EBC was saying that they've been hearing that bike thefts are up around the university, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's got something to to with it. I've never done that before, but am thinking it might be time.

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    I know there have been some complaints made to the city and the police. I don't know if there have been enough. I don't think they can just kick them out with out a pretty good reason, although it looks horrific. I can kind of understand the dirty matress one, as it's a bit out of the way, but the camp above the Glenora club is a little mind boggling. It seems to grow every week, again with bike parts all over the place right in the middle of a fairly high traffic area. It's too bad they're down on their luck, and there isn't a better system to help them out, or cleaner place for them to go.

    Also, word is Cambodia is open now!

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    Got out for my first real extended ride of the season last night. Conditions were great overall, ran into quite a few groups out riding.
    What's the name of the trail on the south side of the river between Capilano bridge west to Riverside golf course? I've only been on it a half-dozen times but it's one of my new favourites. It was the only trail with any significant amount of mud.

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    I think that's Cadillac, but it could be Rolling through Rowland. I always get the two mixed up. The skinny bridge that goes up and over the small chasm is the definite highlight of that trail! I prefer riding it east to west, but west to east is fun too.

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    Cadillac is the west trail, north of the MUP. Once you drop in at the top of the Rowland bridge heading east, there's a bit of a bump up after the first descent. There's an old Cadillac rim on the tree there. It isn't really in your natural eye line riding the trail, but easy to see if you look for it.

    The east trail, south of the MUP with the bridge has too many names, we've been calling it A-bomb. We'll see what EMBA calls it when the trail signs go up.

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    I had today off, and went for a nice ride down to Cadillac and Rowland/A-bomb/etc. I'd actually only intended to go to skyline and back, but it was so nice that I just kept going. It seemed like everyone else had the day off too, because I saw a tonne of other bikes.

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    Not a trail update, but a weather update so that when we're looking back on this year next year, or in 2016, we'll have a record. Saturday May 3rd, cold (near zero degrees for most of the day, but dry). Light snow on the ground Sunday am with light snow and sleet falling all day. Wet and crappy. Light snow on ground Monday am as well with heavy fog and drizzle in spots. Another wet and cold day.

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    More fun with the Walterdale Bridge.
    http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...p_10042014.pdf

    They've got the MUP on the South East side of Queen Elizabeth closed, which means in order to cross East / West you've got to use the new sidewalk running along Queen Elizabeth, then zig zagging along onto the multi use.

    The best way across is the old Brewery Trail, but that that's been slashed in preparation for a new MUP there, so you're zig zagging a bit between the slashed trail and the old trail. And I'll assume soon enough that'll be closed to construct that trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    More fun with the Walterdale Bridge.
    http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...p_10042014.pdf

    They've got the MUP on the South East side of Queen Elizabeth closed, which means in order to cross East / West you've got to use the new sidewalk running along Queen Elizabeth, then zig zagging along onto the multi use.

    The best way across is the old Brewery Trail, but that that's been slashed in preparation for a new MUP there, so you're zig zagging a bit between the slashed trail and the old trail. And I'll assume soon enough that'll be closed to construct that trail.
    haven't been on here in a while.

    But went for my first mtb ride in a while on saturday and did a few laps of the canada cup course (from a few years back) and the trails were in great shape. But ya it was tricky crossing. I was able to stay on the east side of the road and then cross over to the city of edmonton building and cut underneath it and get over to the east. But they may close that off too.

    And ya, I looped all through the trails around old timers cabin and saw at least 6 different tent cities some of which had insane amounts of garbage.

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    Yeah the garbage in the river valley associated with the homeless camps is ridiculous this year, no idea why.

    Best idea is to call 311 with the location of the camps. Not sure if anything will get done but I would like to hope so. Kind of hard for volunteers to go in there to clean up when they might be faced with an angry resident.

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    Peace Officers or EPS handing out citations and repeat offenders get brought to remand centre is a start - besides the new remand is huge there's no need to set up camp in river valley when remand has nice cozy beds and hot showers.

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    Ride report from last night's group ride: Old Timers, Kinsmen, Kiellor Road area, McKinnon ravine are all good. Hardly any mud and no standing water puddles that I saw. Trails were in great shape, weather, not so much

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    ya i got rained on pretty good last night. But trails were in pretty good condition.

    The gravel train between emily murphy and kinsmen on the south side still has patches of snow/ice.

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    I just signed up so I could post especially in this thread!

    I've been riding Cambodia since last Tuesday, it's in pretty good shape with a couple inundated low spots (I've just been picking my bike up and walking around them to avoid rutting the place up). The trail between Cambodia and the Rundle Park bridge is pretty iffy though. Cadillac and A-Bomb(?) have been great and there's some single track that runs in between Goldbar and Wayne Gretzky drive that was a little rutted but generally in pretty good condition. On the north side of the river the single track in Kinnaird Park is dry and suuuuper fast.

    2014 is shaping up to be pretty great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd View Post
    ...and there's some single track that runs in between Goldbar and Wayne Gretzky drive that was a little rutted but generally in pretty good condition.
    Oh wise group riders, does that 2-part trail have an "official" name?

    This morning I saw the new Victoria Secret sign that's up at the east end of the trail near the stairs. Nicely done, EMBA (presumably?)

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    I'm not sure if that one has a name.
    The Dirt Girls have all their signs up, they look pretty awesome! They're usually up moderately high and a few yards into the trail.

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    I saw the sign for Bobsled and then proceeded to get totally hammered as I tried to keep up with the Revo guys on their group ride. It was my first time riding the McKinnon ravine trails. I had no idea how intense some of them would be. I definitely bottomed out my fork for the first time (and second and third...).

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    I was out for a short ride today, and I have to say that those signs are a great addition. They've even put them on trails I'd never have thought of naming - purple haze and wonder woman by the museum, and crazy maria and coaster in mckinnon?

    It means I'm going to have to ride millcreek again. Whenever I go exploring in there it seems like 3/4 of the singletrack deadends, and it gets worse every year. So it'll be nice to have a way to know what other people are actually riding.

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    I agree. Millcreek does definitely need some work as lots of trails that use to be awesome kinda eroded away especially trails near 76 ave there's a single track that's become impassable.

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    Purple Haze? I saw that tonight. Kind of funny. I appreciate all the work that is being put into the signs. Who is doing that?

    BTW which one is Wonder Woman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canbmw View Post
    BTW which one is Wonder Woman?
    Just west of the museum parking lot there's a drop in, and a short, twisty trail that leads down to the mup. It's short enough that I'd barely consider it a trail, but having those little trails signed is nice because at least it lets people know that "yes, this actually goes somewhere."

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    Hopefully with the new signage of trails it will lead to development of more single track trails so the entire river valley becomes a maze of trails .

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    The city doesn't like us building new trails. So it'll be interesting to see what happens with the plans for a new single track to replace the golf course trail. (I guess we can't call it roller coaster anymore, since that's the east bobsled drop in!)

    Some kind soul took out most of the trees on back breaker. There's just one left at the end.

    EMBA is spear heading the trail signage, along with the club who's responsible for each area. The Dirt Girls got all the McKinnon / Victoria's Secret signs up. I -think- they're the only club with signs up so far, although the crews that do Cambodia and the Refinery trails have had signs up out there for a while.

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    Rode many of the trails in the west end yesterday. Trails are in excellent shape. The roller coaster in Terwillegar is as a good as it was last fall, no muddy bottoms at all. Some of the best spring riding I've seen in years.

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    The top of Victoria's secret is completely fenced off now, no way to get out with out some serious bush whacking. So you've got to commit to the museum trails for their own sake now.

    There were 25 people doing laps of Pogey / Pot luck on Saturday afternoon, a mix of small groups, the largest being maybe 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    There were 25 people doing laps of Pogey / Pot luck on Saturday afternoon, a mix of small groups, the largest being maybe 8.
    Which trails are these?

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    The green trails in the image in this post.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/western-canad...l#post10948349

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    Ah yes. Forgot those had signs up. Thanks!

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    Well Congrats to any of you locals and non locals that raced out at Terwilligar this weekend. The lack of rain lately kept the trails in nice shape for sure.

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    Race today was great! We (sport class) got some rain that turned the course pretty slick in spots. Legs covered in mud at the end of the race. Course was very good and flowed really well.

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    I raced sport as well. The rain did slick up the course a little during the second lap, but I did appreciated the cool off it brought. I had no idea that Terwilligar had such great trails. I'll definitely be ridding there more in the future. I was talking with a couple from Calgary in the parking lot after the race. They were also quite impressed that we have such great trails right within Edmonton. It doesn't sound like they have similar down south.

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    ^Riding Terwilliger at night in the autumn is pretty nice. Cool temperatures, no dog walkers, lots of rabbits.

    Agreed on the cooler temperatures with the rain. That was a god send. The only sections I found slick were the first half of the loop. Some of the sections down in the trees were clay and were pretty slick. The trails on the second half of the loop up in the trees and on the hillside were sheltered pretty good, so they didn't seem as slick.

    All the results here if anybody is interested: Alberta Bicycle Association | Registration

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    I was out of town for the last week and a bit, but managed to get one good ride in yesterday before what is apparently going to be a week of rain. It was so nice to see that the garbage has been cleaned up - I don't know if that was the volunteers from River Valley Cleanup, or if the city crews had to step in, but the dirty mattress and royal glenora camps are gone basically without a trace.

    Saw this the strava heatmap on another thread: Strava Global Heatmap

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    Early am ride from Mill Creek to science park. Surprisingly, ST in mid ewok and all of science park is good! Mill Creek ST greasy, and Pot Luck section greasy and a bit nerve wracking. Did not do Cambodia as likely greasy as well.

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    ^ I forgot to mention that Bikeworks South had their grand reopening last saturday in the new shop at 8001 102 St.

    And also, June is bikemonth, so Bikeology Festival · Bike Month, June 2014: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. has a bunch of stuff going on all month (although it seems like fewer things than in previous years)
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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ I forgot to mention that Bikeworks South had their grand reopening last saturday in the new shop at 8001 102 St.
    Excellent. I have a bunch of stuff for donating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post

    Saw this the strava heatmap on another thread: Strava Global Heatmap
    Thanks for this - this will help me find some new trails. Most of them I know now, but I can some that I haven't been on before.

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    I joined mostly just to ask this question. Is there a map or maps that display where the single track mountain bike trails around edmonton are? trails like bobsled, wonder woman, etc. I'm not from here and go by myself most the time. Its hard to find these trails based on word of mouth. Somebody posted this https://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?msid=...00371,0.004823 which was extremely helpful and helped me find that trail. I just wish there were more maps like this. If I can get instructions on how to get to the trails in Edmonton I would be happy to pin point them like that guy did and put them all in one place to make it easy for others like me. Pictures can even be linked to the entrances for both winter and summer to make it super easy.

    I have seen the strava map but its not very helpful to me since it includes all trails. Please share any resources that you have. Thanks!

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    It's really not that hard to find trails, but it takes a bit of going out and searching. I once too didn't know any of the single track, and this was the time before smartphones/gps and group rides. The way I've found things is to just look off in to the bushes from the multi-use trail, and find it. Sometimes you'll end up in a hobo trail, or in a dead end, but sometimes you find gold. With the aid of a smartphone/gps and going on group rides, its probably the best way to find stuff now.

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    The best way to find new trails is to join up with a bike club and get out on some group rides. There are some pretty groovy trails that you really need to know a thing or two to find.

    Cambodia was a little sloppy in places, especially some of the climbs heading west. There's been some pretty bad erosion / slumping above the dirt jumps in lower ewok. The two steeper descents into that area are both pretty sketchy now. It looks like the bridge fairies are about to put some new stuff into old timers, and a new bridge fairy built a sketchy A-frame over the tree in Gnomes Trail. It's not too bad riding east to west, but in reverse it's pretty steep and off camber. I don't think any of the interclub ride made it over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G1ngerBear View Post
    I joined mostly just to ask this question. Is there a map or maps that display where the single track mountain bike trails around edmonton are? trails like bobsled, wonder woman, etc. I'm not from here and go by myself most the time. Its hard to find these trails based on word of mouth. Somebody posted this https://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?msid=...00371,0.004823 which was extremely helpful and helped me find that trail. I just wish there were more maps like this. If I can get instructions on how to get to the trails in Edmonton I would be happy to pin point them like that guy did and put them all in one place to make it easy for others like me. Pictures can even be linked to the entrances for both winter and summer to make it super easy.

    I have seen the strava map but its not very helpful to me since it includes all trails. Please share any resources that you have. Thanks!

    Edmonton's trails are pretty dynamic. With all the erosion we have with our annual monsoon seasons, the trails see some significant changes during the course of a summer or two. The main staple trails are fairly static, and relatively easy to find, but all the newer trails that pop up to circumvent old washed out trails, etc, are a bit harder to find. That's where a club comes in handy as you have a collective of a bunch of explorers who have first hand knowledge of the river valley.

    I'm still surprised to see myself on new trails with the club rides that I didn't know existed. I consider myself fairly knowledgeable of the river valley, but the benefit of a club for finding new trails can't be ignored.

    A few years back there was a local trail book that River Valley Cycle had (and other shops I'm sure). The problem with these books is that they get outdated so quickly. The book itself was a series of hand drawn maps, so if you didn't know the river valley, it was a bit of a crap shot if you could actually find these trails.

    If I start bringing my camera I can start posting up some entrances to some of the single track trails with a bit of a reference point in those pictures.

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    I will certainly look into a bike club. That sounds like a good time. Thanks for the tip. I used to group ride in B.C. but they all worked at local bike shops and eventually the group got a little too skilled for me and all bought high end bikes so I started going with friends instead.

    I'm going to start recording the GPS locations of the trail heads and tails and taking pictures of the entrances and any signage that is up. That way I can put together a trail map with google map maker. With that people can submit edits or additions. We can update trail conditions and closures. Have pictures, and special details like: wear bells, damage to builds, erosion, don't ride wet, etc.

    If nobody wants to pitch in its all good but I'd be happy to take any contributions. Once its complete I'll share it with websites with connections to local riding. Here, EBC, Pink Bike, Local Shops, etc. It will be easy to pop it up on your phone, etc. to check details before hitting the trail so that everyone is in the know and stays safe.

    If anyone wants to send me info my email is [email protected] You can easily get GPS co-ordinance with your smart phone by standing at the trail head and tail and checking your map application. Please send me the name of the trail if you do send me info.

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    Terwillegar Park Footbridge :: City of Edmonton

    City of Edmonton survey on Terwillegar Park/Oleskiw trail routings. Takes about 10-15 minutes to have your voice heard!

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    ^ good stuff. It sounds like the City hadn't really considered the Option 5 trail through the meadow, and were surprised that some people wanted it. To me that seems like a no-brainer - provide a direct, high-speed route for commuting, and leave the singletrack for everyone else.

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    Cambodia last night was very slippery on the slope edges. The rolling single track areas were all good. Pot Luck and Poggie was a bit greasy, but nothing too crazy. Science Park trails were all dry and in great shape.

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    I know it's summer when I finally take the emergency chemical finger/toe warmers out of my toolpack, and replace them with the emergency deepwoods off. I didn't have problems on the weekend, but today at lunch and after work they were swarming just because I'd slowed down to climb a hill.

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    Rode Canada Cup -> Old Timers -> Ewok -> Cadillac and return last night (before the rain). Trails were in near perfect condition with a few dry-ish mud holes in the usual spots. Couple of trees down on the trail across from the paddleboat with the small wooden bridge.

    Mid-Ewok has some crazy new slide action - starting from the big mudslide on the doubletrack to about 200m further East, there are large cracks in the mud, and some resulting soft sections from the disturbed earth. It's nothing that will really impact your ride, but it sure makes it look like a giant section of the valley is going to tumble in the river in the next 50 years.

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    Rode Terwilliger Park to the Science Centre.

    Trail conditions - Terwilliger Park, good. Some mud from the Henday to the park, but nothing major. Patricia Ravine/Wolf Willow - skipped, but the one trail that was done was a bit greasy. Whitemud Equine Center - stuck to the lower path by the river and it was in excellent shape, but some of the trail is eroding away pretty good. Trail all the way to the Hawerlak bridge was good.

    Mikinon Ravine and dog park area on other side of Hawerlak - all good. Kinsmen area - all good. Mill Creek - skipped, but Mill Creek is one of the last spots to dry up so you know it's still going to be greasy in there. Mid Ewok - good with some mud spots. Trail that goes right along the river before the Ewok entrance, running parallel to the paved path and 98 avenue will be gone this year. Large sections have land slide cracks and land movement. Lots of the trail is going to wash into the river. Ride it before it's gone!

    Dawson Park area - all good, not too much mud or water either. Sometimes these trails take a while to clear out, but they were in pretty good shape considering our weather for the past week. A Bomb or Andre's Trail just after Capilano bridge - greasy, but in all fairness, had a torrential down pour for a good ten minutes that we hid from under Capilano bridge. Probably all dry by tomorrow.

    Cambodia - all good except for one greasy section on the steep climb along the embankment. Did not do Wally, Pogie, or Pot Luck, but some guys that did said it was pretty muddy. Science Park trails - all good, but not surprising as these trails here dry up pretty fast given how much rock is in the trails versus mud and clay.

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    jkirkpatri, did you do that as a loop? How long does it take? I swear that would take me 6 hours or more.

    I got out down to goldbar and back, and things were in nice shape. Birdhouse was the only thing in bad shape, and I skipped lower ewok because I figured it would be the same. That new slide-action of middle ewok is kindof crazy. And that sketchy, new a-frame off of sask drive & 90ave (Gnome's trail?) has been torn out.

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    Can someone describe to me where the Ewok trails are? Is it the section of riverbank between Rowland Road and 98th?

    I did Pogey today and it was alright. There were some really muddy chunks and the trail was a little slick, but it was certainly rideable. The Science Park was really nice, as was Cambodia (a little slick in some spots), whatever trail is between Goldbar and Wayne Gretzky Dr. and, A-Bomb. The single track on the north side of the river just down from Ada is dry and wonderful.

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    ^ ewok is below Mcnally highschool, between the dawson bridge and 98ave. It's the stuff in the centre of: Strava Global Heatmap - Ewok Area

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    jkirkpatri, did you do that as a loop? How long does it take? I swear that would take me 6 hours or more.
    This was only a end to end run. Sometime this summer I'll do it as a loop. Not by myself, but with sherijumper again. The lone biker: Two Bridges Shy

    Hardcore's first trail maintenance day was today. New ladder bridge at the end of west coast trail, old timer's cabin area cut back, skyline cut back and replaced a missing board in the ladder bridge that gaps the washed out span. I think some work was done on Gnomes trail, but I'm not sure what was done with the A frame area. Just more of a general clear out.

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    On Gnomes the 'new' A frame over the downed tree was broken up when we got there. We were going to try and put some shingles on it to see if we could make it ridable, but no dice. So we took the tree out. There was a low hanging tree down near the top of the hill at the east entrance, so we turned that into a log bridge that rides pretty smoothly.

    Also cleaned up the downed trees around Walterdale, and it looks like someone unaffiliated with the Hardcore trail day cleaned up the downed trees near the A-frame south of the River Queen.

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    Fat bikes a big hit with cyclists feeling the pain of Edmonton?s rough terrain (with video)

    Is anyone riding their fatbikes? In the winter I was probably seeing almost one a day, but in the last two months I think I've only seen one, period.

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    I'll see one out every now and then. Most of them are United guys though, maybe they've got a little group think going on. With all the rain lately, they'd be a good choice to get some trail riding in with out doing too much damage to the soft trails.

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    I have no plans on riding mine when there's no snow. My thoughts are that if I use my fat bike only for winter riding, I should get years and years out of it as the wear and tear is minimal. If I start riding in the summer, dirt, mud, etc will wear out my drivetrain and tires quicker. Replacing tires on these bikes is freaking insanely expensive. I took the fat bike out earlier on this year on one ride that was half snow, have MUT, and yes, crazy traction on the MUT, but not worth it from my perspective.

    If I didn't already have a mountain bike to ride in the summer, than I would ride my fatbike.



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    Fat bikes a big hit with cyclists feeling the pain of Edmonton?s rough terrain (with video)

    Is anyone riding their fatbikes? In the winter I was probably seeing almost one a day, but in the last two months I think I've only seen one, period.

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    ^ I hadn't thought about the tire wear, but that's a pretty good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post

    Is anyone riding their fatbikes? In the winter I was probably seeing almost one a day, but in the last two months I think I've only seen one, period.
    I ride my fattie to work a few times just to see what it would be like... I wouldn't mind getting some beach action with it... but beach + alberta? Ya...

    As for trails in the summer? I'll stick with my FS for now. Much more fun.

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    Trail Care tonight if anyone wants to pitch in. 6:15 at Mill Creek Outdoor pool upper parking lot.

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    I have been riding my fat bike some with my wife and kids (7/4) and for going to the park etc. I can't believe how fun it is to ride. Mostly, I ride my 29er otherwise.

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    Found a 'new to me' trail thanks to the Strava heat map. In Patricia ravine, I never realized the single track when almost all the way back to 170th street... wow that was fun. So many times I've rode near there, but never all the way to that end...

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    ^ Funny you mention that trail. My friend told me just last week that he and some other buddies widened that trail so they could ride their bikes in there when they were in jr. high - around 30 years ago... I have to go in there and check it out for myself. Does the trail cut off from the one that leads to Westridge from Rio Terrace?

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    This is the trail head here. https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5112...TpiW9G14OA!2e0

    You can ride it the other direction, but it flows better when started from here,you pass by the stairs and then later the half paved half gravel path and then down the rest of patricia ravine.

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    Greasy single track and green worms everywhere!

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    Yeah, I'd planned to take today off to go for a nice long ride. And looking out the window right now I kindof wish that I had, but then I remember how miserable the conditions were last night. I'm sure there will be nicer fridays for me to play hooky.

    Edited to add: trails were actually in really nice condition on the way home
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    Annual Solstice ride for Hardcore was last night. Trails are in great shape, and if anything, it's getting a bit dusty out there (soon to be rectified according to the forecast). Nothing of note - still plenty of green worms hanging about, mosquitos are out in full force as well.

    Mid Ewok - the slop that slid a few years back on the steep section is slipping even more. What used to be a smooth roller (albeit steep) is now a smooth roller with what looked to be a foot drop near the end. The turn off to the right that takes you into the jump area is getting super sketchy with a few air moments rolling down in with the bank slipping even more. Definite behind the saddle riding.

    Dawson Park area single track areas appear to have been trimmed back, so riding through there is much better. Some tree'd sections that required a dismount, though.

    Sun Ridge/Cambodia area - all good and dry. Wally was fun and it looks like there's a new section in the middle of Wally that takes you over to the right to hookup with another trail (Pot Luck?) that wasn't there before. They all come to the same ending chute so it doesn't really matter what line you take.

    West Coast Trail all dry and good. Old Timers, same thing, dry, no mud spots or standing water.

    Skyline Trail - the go around section that diverts around the tree at the edge of the path has some erosion in it making it a bit challenging. I think once that tree goes, it's root system is going to tear away into this go around section. I can see a new go around path getting cut in at this section of the trail in the next year or so as when that tree goes, I think it's going to take the go around section with it.

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    Early Thursday am ride - all single track from Mill Creek to Science Park is dry and water free. Lots of worms still.


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    Millcreek had major swarms of fruit flies that made the ride rather unpleasant. Appreciated trail work as above however I question the need for so many vertical branch stakes to support the log barriers. Seems like a setup that could seriously impale a rider who takes the unfortunate spill. I do realize there's tones of other stuff on trail that could injure a rider and the fact that mtb in general has inherent risks. I'm no trail building expert so just correct me if I'm wrong.

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    That does seem excessive, but pictures can be deceiving. I'll swing by this morning and have a look to see what this all about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjr View Post
    Rode through this area this morning and the intentions are good, but it's too much. I can see doing this on the wash out areas to keep riders out of the more sensitive parts of the trail, but this "wall" goes on for too long. The biggest issue is that there's not enough room for two riders riding opposite directions to pass one another, whereas without the barrier, there is enough room. I'd say to keep the corridors around the sensitive parts, but the regular trail area should have been left as is.

    Having said that, the trail maintenance done on this trail section is great! The logs at the north end to keep the mud hole at bay is super, and the go arounds have been done really nicely as well. Overall, the trail is in much better shape than what it was last year.

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    Pretty sticky and slimy today. Took the fixie for a mup ride all the way down to the end of hermitage park and back. On the gravel mups I kept picking crap up, and actually locked up the wheels a few times and had to stop to clean things out. 70km day on a new handlebar setup, which wasn't too bad.

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    where is this trail? I'm from Regina and I coming to Edmonton in a week. Want to ride there and would like some directions to get there. thanks.

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    ^ Millcreek ravine ... kinda hard to give directions to... I would look at the strava heatmaps linked earlier in this thread.

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    Those trees along the trails in Mill Creek are a little silly. Someone went to a fair amount of effort to accomplish... what?

    The ride around on skyline has slumped a fair bit. It's still rideable heading east, but you've got to muscle through a bit.

    Also the trail along the river at 98th ave is almost gone at it's narrowest point. Not really ridable any more for a section. Any rerouting there should probably wait until the rest of that trail that's cracking has slumped away, and be rerouted quite far from the river.

    One of the deer trails up to Rowland Road from the Riverside Golf Course MUP has been ridden in, and connects into the west side of A-bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    Those trees along the trails in Mill Creek are a little silly. Someone went to a fair amount of effort to accomplish... what? ...
    Rode this area again this morning and it's even worse now. More trees, more logs, and now some of the previous trail liners have been hit and moved, putting little pointy things (sticks) in towards the path. Some bark has been used as trail material for low lying areas, which is okay except on the off camber sections. Bark tends to move around quite a bit.

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    ^ yeah, what's with all the bark? That's weird.

    So for that past few years, when I've ridden Millcreek I've always just started at Argyle and headed north. And I've generally been disappointed, because yeah, there's some singletrack, but it's mostly doubletrack, deadends, and pinkbike dropoffs.

    But this weekend I started at the north end for once, and explored a bit and found the trails in the picture. And now I know what people are talking about. I'd always stayed down near the creek where there's not much going on, but I'll have to add the upper stuff to my usual route.

    Also went to Patricia Ravine for the first time. Nice trails, but too far out of the way to work into a regular loop. It was 10km of pavement from downtown, and ft.ed/hawrelak on the way back. A lot of work for not much singletrack.

    Also did my annual-ish check-in on Treasure Island. After the third major slide I gave up and turned around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ yeah, what's with all the bark? That's weird...
    Also went to Patricia Ravine for the first time. Nice trails, but too far out of the way to work into a regular loop. It was 10km of pavement from downtown, and ft.ed/hawrelak on the way back. A lot of work for not much singletrack...
    There's quite a bit of single track at Patricia, but it's hard to find.

    With your experience in Mill Creek and finding this (new to you) single track, it's makes me think that we should try to map the various trails in and around the river valley using pictures, so that if you know the general area, it's just a matter of finding the trail head as shown in the picture. This would be time consuming and take a long time, but it's something worth thinking about. Should probably devote a new thread to it as well. After the 24 Hours in Canmore, I'll get it started. I live near Mill Creek, so mapping out Mill Creek using pictures should give the thread a decent start.

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    ^ I think that Strava heatmap is a great resource.

    I wouldn't have even gone looking for the Millcreek stuff if I hadn't noticed a loop on there, and realized that I'd never been on the upper mup before. Once I was there, poking around was easy.

    And same with Patricia Ravine. I think I found most of it including the trail out to 170st. And it was a nice long ride. I'm just grumbling because I couldn't really connect it to anything other than Keillor (it's not even very close to Terwillegar, although the new bridge will certainly help).

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    There's no need to ride too much single track / double track to work in a Patricia loop. It's probably better ridden clockwise. There's plenty of of fun stuff to ride past Hawrelack, either along Saskatchewan drive, or along the river. So it's just Fort Edmonton double track. And to finish, there are the fun lines from Laurier Drive into Laurier park, a dog park cruise, some pavement, and then you're into McKinnon.

    If you want to come into it from the North side, at the east end of Rio Park Road there's a trail head past the brick house that'll take you to the start of the Wolf Willow climb.

    J - The Dirt Girls are running a pilot program with NAIT students to get some mapping done of their area. I'm not sure how it's been progressing.

    The heat map is great, but some of the best trails are so faint they're hard to see. Especially when you compare them to how well some of the 1 day cyclocross courses are burned in! Or they're close enough to other trails or main routes that they're hard to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ I think that Strava heatmap is a great resource.

    I wouldn't have even gone looking for the Millcreek stuff if I hadn't noticed a loop on there, and realized that I'd never been on the upper mup before. Once I was there, poking around was easy.

    And same with Patricia Ravine. I think I found most of it including the trail out to 170st. And it was a nice long ride. I'm just grumbling because I couldn't really connect it to anything other than Keillor (it's not even very close to Terwillegar, although the new bridge will certainly help).
    When I do patricia ravine, I usually start near revolution cycle, hit the rooty trail through mackinnion, slide over towards the fun downhill part into laurier, ride behind the zoo, and then over to Patricia ravine, ride patricia ravine to you get to the river (not the stairs), and then ride the single track to the footbridge. Will be nice when the next footbridge is in place, but theres still some nice single track that takes you to where that footbridge is... nice turn around point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    If you want to come into it from the North side, at the east end of Rio Park Road there's a trail head past the brick house that'll take you to the start of the Wolf Willow climb.
    I guess I have to retract my love of the heatmap, since the satellite photos clearly show that trail running from Rio park, but I had no idea it was there since it's barely visible on the heatmap. I'll have to look for it next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
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    J - The Dirt Girls are running a pilot program with NAIT students to get some mapping done of their area. I'm not sure how it's been progressing....
    Next Monday night I'll ask them about this.

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    Tree down on the western, more gradual downhill from 110 St/Sask Drive to the MUP.

    Use the eastern, steep trail or the paved path to get down or up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneGretzky View Post
    Tree down on the western, more gradual downhill from 110 St/Sask Drive to the MUP.

    Use the eastern, steep trail or the paved path to get down or up.
    Make sure your brakes are functioning if taking the steep trail down as it intersects with the paved and could be t bone disaster for newbies that blast down without realizing what I just mentioned.... I honestly don't even think it's possible to come to dead stop as the bottom of steep is right at where it meets paved.

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    Looking to service my 36 TALAS (or convert it to a 150mm FLOAT) - does anyone know where I can get a service/conversion kit for one and DIY it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvestri View Post
    Looking to service my 36 TALAS (or convert it to a 150mm FLOAT) - does anyone know where I can get a service/conversion kit for one and DIY it?
    Not sure about the conversion kit. I just serviced mine a few months ago. There are some decent walkthroughs on YouTube. You will need some fork oil, Fox float fluid and new wipers/seals which include new crush washers. I picked all that up at Revolution. Good luck

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    Hello everyone, getting back into riding after a few years. Have never been on any of the trails aroumd edmonton but have heard some good things. Looking for someone or a few someones to show me around. Looked into joining a riding group but the ones I have found meet on weeknights and I work untill after midnight but am off Friday-Sunday. Anyone willing to let me tag along? I am located in the north west of the city close to 127st and 127ave

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    thanks canbmw.

    Another totally unrelated question.. in 2009 I foolishly listened to a guy that knows better (co-owner(?) of Knolly Bikes) and bought a Large Endorphin. Upon building it up, I found the cockpit too cramped and very nose-light. I had test ridden Dr.Brad's XL before that (and loved the way it fit) but Knolly insisted I'm for sure a Large. I'm 6'4", 36" inseam, 225 lbs riding weight.

    Fast forward to summer 2013, I tried to get to adjust the cockpit so I'd like the bike but just couldn't get it to a level where I was enjoying riding it. I tried everything from moving the seat back to a 120mm stem, and riding with the TALAS at 140mm.

    So I'm thinking what choices I have.. I've sunk huge dollars into this rig already, so my choices seem to be:

    a) Do I go with an XL 2014 Endorphin for $2k, move parts over, and hope that works?
    2) Sell the 2010 Endorphin, get something else for the $2k plus whatever I get for the Endo (maybe some 650b or 29'er)
    xiv. Ride the hardtail (see below) and leave with some extra bills in my wallet for my next addiction?

    The other bikes in my stable are a 21" Kona Kiluaea hardtail for winter and a 61cm Hakkalugi which is pretty much my go-to bike unless I find myself doing the river valley trails with friends.. We just had our first kid so money's a bit tight.. I haven't been able to ride too far into the valley since her arrival, so maybe I don't need a third bike at all...

    Thanks for reading.

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    ^ that's rough. I'd think that selling the frame and moving the parts to an XL would usually be the cheapest way to handle it. But so many standards have changed in the last 4 years - front & rear through axles, tapered headsets, 27.5, 1x - that you might end up needing to change (or wanting to change) a bunch of stuff anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Lec View Post
    Hello everyone, getting back into riding after a few years. Have never been on any of the trails aroumd edmonton but have heard some good things. Looking for someone or a few someones to show me around. Looked into joining a riding group but the ones I have found meet on weeknights and I work untill after midnight but am off Friday-Sunday. Anyone willing to let me tag along? I am located in the north west of the city close to 127st and 127ave
    Give us a little more information on your riding skill level, fitness, and current bike setup. Will help determine what areas would be appropriate to ride in around Edmonton

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    I've got an open spot on my 24 Hour team this year due to a member crash last Monday that will see him off the bike for a few weeks. Private message me if you're interested. Non-competitive 5 person team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Give us a little more information on your riding skill level, fitness, and current bike setup. Will help determine what areas would be appropriate to ride in around Edmonton
    I'm 33, I used to do a lot of single track and downhill riding as well as some competitive bmx riding in the kamloops area of BC when I lived there, however I haven't done any riding off paved paths in about 10 yrs. My current bike os a brand new Schwinn Graft pro. It has full suspension and disc brakes.

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    You could come out Monday night for the Hardcore group ride. Rides leave from the shop at 6:30pm. Take the slow social paced ride and you'll get a taste of what's out there. First ride is free, but you will have to sign a waiver. Your bike might be the limiting factor as some areas of Edmonton would be pretty hard on it. For the Monday ride, your bike would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ that's rough. I'd think that selling the frame and moving the parts to an XL would usually be the cheapest way to handle it. But so many standards have changed in the last 4 years - front & rear through axles, tapered headsets, 27.5, 1x - that you might end up needing to change (or wanting to change) a bunch of stuff anyway.
    yeah.. I've priced out a new headset, rear axle conversion, and a new front derailleur.. doesn't add that much to the conversion price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    You could come out Monday night for the Hardcore group ride. Rides leave from the shop at 6:30pm. Take the slow social paced ride and you'll get a taste of what's out there. First ride is free, but you will have to sign a waiver. Your bike might be the limiting factor as some areas of Edmonton would be pretty hard on it. For the Monday ride, your bike would be fine.
    As I said in my first post I work untill after midnight Monday-thursday but am off Friday - Sunday

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    Ah, sorry, reading comprehension oversight.

    I'd take you out for a bit on a weekend, but it'd have to be in August as I'm gone on vacation.

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    Hello everyone, getting back into riding after a few years. Have never been on any of the trails aroumd edmonton but have heard some good things. Looking for someone or a few someones to show me around. Looked into joining a riding group but the ones I have found meet on weeknights and I work untill after midnight but am off Friday-Sunday. Anyone willing to let me tag along? I am located in the north west of the city close to 127st and 127ave

    I'll be out riding Friday/Saturday if you want to tag along. I usually start at Sask Drive and 109.
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    Do you guys have any recommendations for a local bike shop with a good service department? I've moved recently and my old standby is now across the city - I'm in the southeast so somewhere east or central is most convenient.
    Does anyone from Sherwood Park know if Park Cycle is still open? It's on my way to work but their number is out of service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankMcCoy View Post
    Do you guys have any recommendations for a local bike shop with a good service department? I've moved recently and my old standby is now across the city - I'm in the southeast so somewhere east or central is most convenient.
    Does anyone from Sherwood Park know if Park Cycle is still open? It's on my way to work but their number is out of service.
    What service do you need done?

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    I've got a metallic clanging/rubbing noise coming from the front-end of my 2014 Specialized Crave Pro with every wheel rotation. No noise if you just spin the wheel but gets real loud when riding for a while. I still have free service at the shop I bought it from but they weren't able to find the source (I have a feeling that they were so busy that they didn't spend a whole lot of time investigating).
    My service knowledge isn't the best but I suspect it's coming from the front rotor or spokes.

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    Try Mud Sweat & Gears in Sherwood Park. I didn't buy my bike there but I still find myself using their service department quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankMcCoy View Post
    I've got a metallic clanging/rubbing noise coming from the front-end
    Probably rotor rub? Is it like a "ching-ching-ching" like a cymbal or highhat? Sometimes I'll have it happen just when I'm turning, because the flex in the fork or hub is enough to cause some contact.

    First step is probably to take a look at how close the rotor is getting to the pads. The easiest way is to shine a flashlight into the caliper from one end, look in from the other, and give the wheel a spin and watch for wobbles in the rotor.

    If that's the problem, the easiest solution is to back the offending pad off a bit, or nudge the caliper over. You can also try truing the rotor, but that sucks (it does work, but can also go horribly, frustratingly wrong.)

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    Thanks for the response. Rotor rub was what I assumed the issue was before I took the bike in but they didn't find anything and I would assume that this would be the first thing they'd check. There is a distinct chance that they didn't actually take the bike out on a long enough ride to hear the noise and just wrote it off.
    No noticeable wobble from the rotor but I'll try the flashlight trick to see if that shows anything different - thanks for the tip.

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    ^ yeah, any wobble will be minuscule, and even a brandnew rotor won't be perfectly true. You're basically using the flashlight to watch the very tiny gap between the pads and rotor, and see if there are any spots where it gets really, really tiny.

    I run mechanical discs, where it's easy to just adjust the pads out a click. Hydros are smarter and selfadjust, but someone at Brake Time could probably tell you how to fix it (or what to tell the shop)

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    Where are the Pictures YEG thread?

    Been incapacitated from riding, so I come on here looking for some good Edmonton riding/ trail shots and I know you have them..

    Come on people! Post em up!
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    Thanks to Feepa for showing me around the terwillegar trails this morning. Quick to realize that I need to work on getting my wind back. Had a great time. It felt good to be back on a bike cruising some trails.
    An open faced helmet and maybe some gloves on the list for next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherijumper View Post
    Come on people! Post em up!


    Warm one today. Normally in the summer I ride with a merino beanie under my helmet to theoretically keep me cool, and to keep me from getting a weird suntan on the top of my head.

    But today I was dying. On cadillac(or caddytrack apparently?) I felt like my brain was melting. Took it off, and the rest of the ride was much more pleasant.

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    I was melting on my 9pm ride today... Usually cools down by then ... Not today. Someone doing some trail work on his own and patching up the skyline trail ride around where the tree section is on brink of collapsing into river, kudos to you buddy.

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    Looks like the city was nice enough to have the bridge guys cut a new, south entrance for the Groat Road Rollercoaster. It's pretty steep, and currently very loose, but you can't miss it. Now I'm going to have to take the dog to see whether or not they also put in a new one for Victoria Secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    Looks like the city was nice enough to have the bridge guys cut a new, south entrance for the Groat Road Rollercoaster. It's pretty steep, and currently very loose, but you can't miss it. Now I'm going to have to take the dog to see whether or not they also put in a new one for Victoria Secret.
    This is amazing!

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    Unfortunately without the bridge it makes it difficult to connect a worthwhile loop from Vic secret over to roller coaster and vice versa.

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    ^ assuming Victoria Secret is open again (and last time I checked the second entrance was only blocked by about 6' of fencing) then the Museum>Rollercoaster>Secret loop is doable. Have to detour to the 104ave bridge anyway, and taking the rollercoaster is better than toodling through glenora like I've been doing.

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    So the city has also cut a new entry to Victoria Secret. You obviously have to take the 104ave bridge, and detour behind the shops, but it's nice that it's not closed all year.

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    What type of trails are available for bikes out at cooking lake provincial park? Looking on the strava heat map there looks like there might be an impressive trail system out there, but then again, it might just be a horse trail.

    Anyone know?

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    You're seeing the xc ski trails. And around Wanisan and Islet lake the Kettle-cross race course section of the ski trails.

    It's all wide open rolling double track with no features. Fine enough for a pedal with the kids, or a flat out rip on a cyclocross bike, but not interesting for a mountain bike.

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    The bridge to cambodia is repaired again. And someone put some serious shovel time into the skyline ride around where it was slumping. Rides nice!

    The A-bomb access has been linked up to an old trail, just across the street and about 10m east of the Caddy Track west entrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    The A-bomb access has been linked up to an old trail, just across the street and about 10m east of the Caddy Track west entrance.
    Does that mean no more climbing the killer MUP up from A-bomb to Caddytrack? That stretch of pavement is awful on my singlespeed.

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    ^^^ that climb sure does bite. Yes that climb is avoided but obviously you give up that last downhill switchback section from A bomb that spits you out bottom of MUP. And I hate Caddytrack east to west.

    Whomever is carving these trails big thanks cause really loving these great trails within the city. My hope is that there are more and more trail networks to come within river valley.
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    Anyone been out on the trails recently? I'm trying to decide if it's worth taking a mountain bike out this afternoon, or if I should just stick to the fixie.

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    ^ I'm going out later this afternoon. I will stick to trails that tend to dry out the first, likely to be some pretty muddy low points, especially on the lower trails, or trails that don't see much sun.
    If the trail is muddy and I'm leaving a track, I'll just turn around. No point wrecking the single track trails.

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    I just walked around laurier with the dog, and things were pretty dry. A few soft spots, and a few slightly greasy spots, but it should be a decent trail day.

    Edited to add:

    So things were in pretty good shape today. A few places like dirty mattress were a little slimy. The only really bad area I found was low down in millcreek - I guess the creek must have overflowed a bit on friday, because where the trails are right down by the water things are still completely soaked.
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    Tried to ride from the science park to gold bar yesterday, noticed on the western end toward gold bar is now fenced off, and looks like a slide has happened, so had to either double back to the science park, or take the trail where the bridge washed out last year in the monsoon season. The bridge has been replaced by a sketchy looking setup, so I doubled back, and went around through rundle park. The rest of the trail(s) are looking pretty good.

    Location of the fence/slide https://www.google.com/maps/place/53...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

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    Since it sounds like there's a reasonable chance Edmonton might host the 2022 Commonwealth Games, I figured people might find this interesting:

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/vUDOXj7zQ3E?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    (the first 7 minutes or so are highlights of the women's run)

    If we did host it, I wonder where they'd put the course? Use the old Canada Cup course, but with some extra tv-friendly features by walterdale and the old pool? Or terwillegar with maybe a sprint over the future pedestrian bridge into Oleskiw?

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    ^^ are you talking about running or mtb event?

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    Sorry, mtb. By "highlights of the women's run" I actually meant "highlights of Catharine Pendrel and Emily Batty taking Gold & Silver in women's mountain biking." The video of the men's "run" didn't show the course very well, but the women's coverage gives a pretty good sense of the course layout.

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    Would love to see them bomb through Cadillac and A bomb trails although it would be tough put an actual loop course in those areas. It's also 8 yrs away so hopefully our river valley will be more infested with singletrack. Also bikes, gear will be a lot different in 8 yrs. power assisted drive trains, electronic everything including on the fly geometry adjustments and I'm sure by then there will be a new wheel size ..... 28.2 inch I'm guessing. 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    The bridge to cambodia is repaired again...
    This bridge? Pictures from last weekend.



    Fenced off slump area by the pump station:


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    Ya that's what I ran into, and that plank bridge looks sketchy and coming from the east is pretty gnarly just to get down to it.

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    This trail is good to go again after a minor bench cut and a lot of pruning.

    Edmonton Spring/Summer 2014-trail.jpg

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    I walked that plank on the Cambodia trail last weekend and didn't fall into the creek, so I'll attest to the fact that it was at least somewhat safe to use if you weigh 160 pounds and are me last week. I'm about to go do it again though, so I'll report back if I fall in or if there's a better route to get around that part of the trail.

    Also, out of curiosity, where is the entrance for the Groat Road Roller Coaster and Victoria's Secret? I do most of my riding on the east side of the city and don't make it out around McKinnon too regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd View Post
    Also, out of curiosity, where is the entrance for the Groat Road Roller Coaster and Victoria's Secret? I do most of my riding on the east side of the city and don't make it out around McKinnon too regularly.



    The groat roller coaster is in orange, and victoria secret in yellow.

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    Also, if you are planning on hitting the mckinnion ravine, you may want to consider hitting the rooty trail and pinball alley/bobsled.
    Rooty:
    Entrance

    trail


    Bobsled/PBA.

    The orange trail (in this map) is a tough climb ... but worth it.

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    do any of these three trails have a common name?


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    1 is cadillac/caddytrack
    2 is the route that I call upper ewok, although there are a million entrances/exits
    3 is what I'd call middle ewok, although it also has a bunch of branches including the mup.

    And yesterday was the first time I'd noticed the sign for "Risky Business" which is apparently the name for the trail on the southside of the river, that's just east of the capilano bridge, and on the southside of the mup.

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