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    Edmonton Riding - Winter 2010

    I waited and waited for somebody to start one and seeing as how today is the first day winter I could not wait any longer . Hope you all have a good Christmas and hopefully a good dry 2011 season of riding .
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    Someone had to do it......

    I've been hiding in the basement on the trainer......soon though....soon......

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    I'm on the trainer in the new year. My ironman streak was over when my daughter was born...or well.

    On the positive part, I am hoping to retire the signed Cake in 2011 and replace it with a very nice new-to-me bike
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    If anyone is looking to get one last ride in for 2010, there will be a few of us riding from DaCapo Cafe at 12:00 (noon) on the 31st.
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    Hooray for the warmer weather. I'll happily ride to work when it's -20, but for a fun ride I'd been waiting for things to warm up a bit. Great day for it, with lots of people out skiing, tobogganing, and saw a few other people riding. Was riding through the trees off mckinnon and a couple of kids asked their parents why someone was riding a bike?

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    I got my first ride in on new years day. Nice little street session.Sketchy dropping off ledges and stairs due to the snow.
    At the end of the day, my bike is a bike, whether its made for XC singletrack or DH, I can make it do what I want.

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    Just went for my first ride in Edmonton! The trails are in good shape at the Dog Park in Terwillegar. Some tracks but not many!

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    Woohoo...looks like papa will have a new(to me) ride this spring to hit the trails on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Mike
    Woohoo...looks like papa will have a new(to me) ride this spring to hit the trails on
    What are you getting? You should know better than to come in here and drop news like that without giving us more information
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    Yes, details please! I'm new to the city and wondering what bikes you guys use on your trails? F/S or hard tails, do your trails have lots of roots?

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    There is a bit of everything as far as trails go, but nothing I can't ride on a HT. Currently, my stable is full of 29ers and my newest addition is a rigid SS that I am currently building.
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    Speaking of, Gord you recommended a Kona Unit awhile back. I went back and forth between it and the karatemonkey a couple of times, but finally decided the unit will be my first 29er. I'll be picking it up in a few months since I didn't want to subject a shiny new bike to my winter commute (that can happen next year). Thanks for the suggestion.

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    Thanks gord962, I never thought about a 29er! Is there lots of winter riding in the river valley?

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    Some of the ST isn't rideable, but yes, there is a lot of riding in the river valley as long as the dog walkers have been out to pack the trails!
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    I've got some pictures on Flickr from a few of my rides home last winter. They give an idea of what's centralish around the university and downtown. Definitely more doubletrack than singletrack, but still plenty fun.

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    Ok...you asked

    New ride for me (though not brand new) will be a Knolly Delirium T. I'm still rounding up parts, but I'm definitely moving up from big guy XC bike to big guy AM bike

    The Cake is getting a little long in the tooth and, well, I don't want to kill a signed frame... esp. now that Fisher is gone and Trek would give me an unsigned Trek to replace it if anything ever happened.

    I'll get on with the bike porn when I get stuff together
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    Thanks for the info! The Knolly sounds like a great find! Enjoy!! Any local bike shops do group rides? Nice pics newfangled, I will have to learn where they are. Only riding will tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blyth
    Thanks for the info! The Knolly sounds like a great find! Enjoy!! Any local bike shops do group rides? Nice pics newfangled, I will have to learn where they are. Only riding will tell!
    There are some videos and pics in my blog (link is in my signature) Check out Sherijumper's blog for some pictures as well (link is in his signature).

    As for a group ride, I am not sure anything is formalized during the winter. The 'W-interbike Ride' that leaves from DaCapo Cafe on Sundays around 12:00 -12:30 is the closest thing. It is a good mix of people from all different clubs around the city but usually a very fast paced ride. 99% of the guys race Expert or Elite and with me being a mid-bottom Sport rider, they end up waiting on me quite a bit. I know United Cycle was doing a ride earlier this winter but I haven't heard much about it since mid December. I think Hardcore does an informal ride as I talked to a few of the guys and they said they were planning a few things but I haven't seen or heard much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blyth
    Thanks for the info! The Knolly sounds like a great find! Enjoy!!
    Thanks, I will. I lucked into it (after having lusted after one for ages) and I think it will be far more capable for the type of riding I've been gradually migrating towards.

    And if you need an explination for my screen name...I'll probably use the DT for the Ride to Conquer Cancer this year too
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    hehehe...I'm going to put up the first bit of bike porn regarding the nekkid frame (and fork) that arrived today


    Here's the birthday cake...



    and here's what jumped out...



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    That looks great! Where are you going to ride that, now I can't wait to get out on the bikes!! Thanks for all your info and pics! It's looking like it will be a great year on the Bike! Any of you do any Road Trips, if so where do you go? Thanks again!

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    Sweet looking rig! What are you planning to use for a wheelset?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blyth
    That looks great! Where are you going to ride that, now I can't wait to get out on the bikes!! Thanks for all your info and pics! It's looking like it will be a great year on the Bike! Any of you do any Road Trips, if so where do you go? Thanks again!
    Once I build it up, I'll ride it pretty much anywhere and everywhere. It'll be a little heavy for a XC bike, but it'll do everything else for me

    I did a fundraiser road trip...Ride to Conquer Cancer in 2010. Calgary - Okotoks - Nanton - Chain Lakes Park - Longview - Calgary. 220+ km over the two days. It was fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    Sweet looking rig! What are you planning to use for a wheelset?
    For now, I'll transfer my Pro II / 819 wheelset I hand built a couple years ago. If I do more park stuff, I'll want to get a wider rim, but for the 2.2-2.35 tires I expect to use for now, they'll do fine. I took the Cake to Rabbit Hill and the wheels took it fine...the Cake was a little less than ideal, but the wheels did well.

    Right now, the build looks like:

    '09 Knolly DT frame, large
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    Solid looking build. Are you stripping all the parts from the Cake or just robbing a couple pieces?
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    Hey Mike, that Knolly should serve you well ! I noticed there are pictures next to the Christmas tree . Was it a gift ? If so Holy SH$T ! That`s a good way to get spoiled !
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    Has anyone been out riding? Are there any trails passable with all this snow? Might have to do some trail walking wih the shovel next weekend to get the trails in riding condition
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    Solid looking build. Are you stripping all the parts from the Cake or just robbing a couple pieces?
    Well, I could rebuild the Cake to stock....but because it is a signed frame and Trek would give me a Trek if I broke it (un-signed, of course), I'm going to retire it. It's served me well, but I don't think I want to risk a Gary Fisher signed Gary Fisher bike now that the latter are no longer produced.

    My upgraded parts are making the switch over to the Knolly
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherijumper
    Hey Mike, that Knolly should serve you well ! I noticed there are pictures next to the Christmas tree . Was it a gift ? If so Holy SH$T ! That`s a good way to get spoiled !
    Sorta. I saved some and had a little designated from a Christmas bonus...and then I found the frame at a good price. I consider it a Christmas / Birthday gift to me (with my wife's blessing and the caveat that I be willing to use it to haul the kidlet around a bit when she's old enough (Knolly says a trailer is fine)).

    Btw...I plan on living up to my screen name and using it for the RtCC this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    Has anyone been out riding? Are there any trails passable with all this snow? Might have to do some trail walking wih the shovel next weekend to get the trails in riding condition
    If they are, I'd assume the "dog walk" ones are more passable than anything...Mill Creek Ravine MUT, that sort of thing. Everything else is probably under a couple feet of snow
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    Just boring commutes for me until it warms up a bit.

    Nice vid in the other thread, btw. Is the last minute or two around the canada cup course between the old timers' and walterdale, or somewhere else? With the edits I can't get my bearings.

    And as I was riding the impromptu mogul runs on the streets to work, I was wondering if there are any pump tracks in town? Is rabbit hill it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled
    Nice vid in the other thread, btw. Is the last minute or two around the canada cup course between the old timers' and walterdale, or somewhere else? With the edits I can't get my bearings.
    Here is the post newfangled is referring to: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=679520

    I started at DaCapo, headed down to the Kinsmen, took what ST was available to the Riverboat, then MUT/pave to the Dawson and then Ewok on the way back.
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    Ah, I should have recognized the two downed trees just before the police. One you headed back through ewok it looks like the snow was mostly untouched, but rideable? I've never been through there in the winter, but figured it could be a bad place to get stuck?

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    Ewok in the winter can be bad (esp. lower Ewok near the river). Considering how much snow we've had in the last 2 weeks, don't bother....they won't be passable for a while.
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    Ewok is a very well travelled trail and usually the first ST trail to be packed and rideable. It was hard to see the trail due to a combination of the camera being pointed too high and poor lighting. There is a chance it could be rideable by this weekend. You will know by how well the trail up is packed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    Ewok is a very well travelled trail and usually the first ST trail to be packed and rideable. It was hard to see the trail due to a combination of the camera being pointed too high and poor lighting. There is a chance it could be rideable by this weekend. You will know by how well the trail up is packed.
    Which part? Upper, lower or MUT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Mike
    Which part? Upper, lower or MUT?
    Sorry, upper and MUT. I generally stay away from the lower trail. Not much but mud there all summer and not enough traffic to be relied upon as passable in the winter. The mid-lower trail has been rideable previously in the winter but I didn't see much for signs of traffic prior to the storm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    Sorry, upper and MUT. I generally stay away from the lower trail. Not much but mud there all summer and not enough traffic to be relied upon as passable in the winter. The mid-lower trail has been rideable previously in the winter but I didn't see much for signs of traffic prior to the storm.
    Kinda what I figured.

    The MUT is like the Mill Creek MUT...popular enough with the dog walkers that it gets travelled pretty well and is passable most of the year. The stuff above the MUT I'd think may be a while....we've had ~50cm of snow and, although they are nice trails, I don't see many slogging along them by this point.

    Lower isn't bad in the spring, summer and fall...as long as we don't have tons of rain to feed the springs (that's why it's almost always muddy in a couple spots).

    Can't wait to get on them in the spring on the DT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Mike
    The MUT is like the Mill Creek MUT...popular enough with the dog walkers that it gets travelled pretty well and is passable most of the year. The stuff above the MUT I'd think may be a while....we've had ~50cm of snow and, although they are nice trails, I don't see many slogging along them by this point.
    It is surprising how much upper Ewok is travelled by foot. Judging by the snow pack prior to the storm, I would say it gets approxiamtely as much traffic as the path along the trees at the Kinsmen that comes out at the Walterdale bridge.
    As for the Forrest Heights MUT, they may as well be scraping it for how hard packed and wide that trail is during the winter. Like you mention - similar to Mill Creek. There are very few other MUTs in the city with as much traffic as those two.
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    Is there a reason the city is always closing the middle trail through there? The barricades never seem to last, but I've always wondered what the problem is supposed to be. Is it because of the one big drop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled
    Is there a reason the city is always closing the middle trail through there? The barricades never seem to last, but I've always wondered what the problem is supposed to be. Is it because of the one big drop?
    The slope is very active and slides regularly. They fixed it up a couple years ago (it was pretty nice) and then the slope failed (hence that big drop). Officially, that MUT has been closed for almost 2 years now, but so many people go by anyway that the barricades "mysertiously disappear" on a regular basis.
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    Thanks. I've only ever seen it in it's collapsed form.

    My unofficial trail report: probably crappy.

    The city is doing a good job with the MUTs, but it's still hit&miss. The cleared ones are fine. The uncleared ones are sortof packed down, but really soft so there's no firm base. If you can find unbroken snow to plow through you're good, but otherwise it's a huge slog.

    I went to the dogpark above the Equine centre today just to check things out, and it's not very packed down. With the cold temperatures I figure that's probably pretty typical?

    Then I tried some of the singletrack that goes down to Keillor road, thinking that gravity would get me to the bottom. It didn't. I couldn't get enough momentum to get more than 3 or 4 feet at a time. I couldn't have gone OTB if I'd wanted to.

    Hopefully the warmer temperatures will get more people out, and some freeze/thaws will firm things up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled
    Thanks. I've only ever seen it in it's collapsed form.

    My unofficial trail report: probably crappy.

    The city is doing a good job with the MUTs, but it's still hit&miss. The cleared ones are fine. The uncleared ones are sortof packed down, but really soft so there's no firm base. If you can find unbroken snow to plow through you're good, but otherwise it's a huge slog.

    I went to the dogpark above the Equine centre today just to check things out, and it's not very packed down. With the cold temperatures I figure that's probably pretty typical?

    Then I tried some of the singletrack that goes down to Keillor road, thinking that gravity would get me to the bottom. It didn't. I couldn't get enough momentum to get more than 3 or 4 feet at a time. I couldn't have gone OTB if I'd wanted to.

    Hopefully the warmer temperatures will get more people out, and some freeze/thaws will firm things up a bit.
    There will be lots of bike traffic over the next week. There is a group ride going out tonight and another on Sunday (that I am aware of) and I will be doing some prescouting for what is rideable on Saturday. All it takes is for about 10 guys to go through those trails on their bikes each way and it is good to go. The problem is finding the 10 guys who want to be the first group to slog through.

    I would say that the Forrest Heights MUT has been closed for at least 3 years - it was closed when I started riding...
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    The city forgot to clear the High Level on the weekend and didn't get around to it again until this morning. The bridge got a tonne of foot and bike traffic over those 4 days, but even with all of that it was only starting to get packed down by last night. This latest snow was really light, and with the cold temperatures it's been like sand.

    So I wish you good luck, and try to be at either the front or the back of the pack.

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    4hr ride yesterday from DaCapo to the far end of Hermitage and back. With the weather so warm it was tough going along any that was getting direct sun as my tires would dig into the snow but in the shade the trails were great. We mainly stuck to the paved trails but the MUT on the north side of the river, east of 50th st bridge as well as the Gold Bar and Capilano MUT are in excellent condition for riding.
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    Gotta' get my ass in gear and replace my front derailleur cable, man up, and join the Sunday ride. I'm getting lazy by just sitting inside and spining on a trainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri
    Gotta' get my ass in gear and replace my front derailleur cable, man up, and join the Sunday ride. I'm getting lazy by just sitting inside and spining on a trainer
    You won't use your FD - it will be iced up most of the time. Put it in your middle ring and leave it there for the next 2 months.
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    That actually makes sense. I'll work on some clothing this week and <hope> to make next Sunday.

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    A little bit off topic

    A picture from my Father in laws barn which collapsed this week under the weight of all the snow . I just got 4 days off, I guess this will keep me busy ....Crazy
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    Yikes! Hopefully the boat didn't take much damage.
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    Damn. That's too bad.

    Crazy icy out there today. I had a hard time walking my daughter to daycare.

    Should have taken the bike with studs

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    Ya, it`s been a rough couple of days. They were in Arizona and are now on their way home. He was storing boats and vehicles in there for the winter. The last couple days we were doing "damage control" by getting snow off other buildings and clearing paths to get access to the collapsed barn. It`s crazy how many roofs have collapsed this week. Thank God nobody got seriously hurt yet !

    Oh, well . My arms are now killing me but I`m going riding
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    Some pretty nice winter riding out there right now.

    Lots of stuff is packed-down, so you can really fly. And the not-quite-packed-down stuff on the sides of the trails is pretty good too. With the thawing and freezing it's good and solid, so if you do go off your line your wheel doesn't suddenly nose down into a foot of snow and stop you dead. It's more like a berm that bounces you back onto the trail. Not too much ice yet either.

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    Great to hear! I've been busy doing renos in the house so I haven't been out for a couple weeks. I am going out on Sunday as I am starting to feel a bit 'soft' and glad to hear how good of shape the trails are in!
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    Yeah, and it's not just the MUTs and doubletrack. A lot of the singletrack is in good shape too.

    I just rode the stretch along the river that's just off Keilor road, and it was crazy-bumpy but lots of fun. Pretty much everything north of there through to Hawrelak is open thanks to the dog walkers. And I took a peak at the groat road rollercoater on monday, and even it was probably rideable (but it was dark out and I was cold.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled
    Pretty much everything north of there through to Hawrelak is open thanks to the dog walkers.

    I guess the dog walkers are actually good for something eh
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    Ehhh...they're also leaving plenty of presents behind, but at least they show up well against the snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled
    And I took a peak at the groat road rollercoater on monday, and even it was probably rideable (but it was dark out and I was cold.)
    Warning on that - it gets very icy. I have had a few near death experiences on it during the winter.
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    Yeah, the first time I rode it was last spring when it was still icy, and it scared the crap out of me. So I didn't ride it on Monday because it was dark out, I was cold, and because I recognized that "probably rideable" for the grrc means having to hike half of it.

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    Found this on the City's website regarding the Scona Road closure (Old Timer's Cabin) starting May 1. Not sure how much the widened road will encroach on the existing ravine, but hopefully, not too much.

    http://www.edmonton.ca/city_governme...animation.aspx

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    If you are looking for me on the trails this year, you may find me on top of this: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=690961
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    Just thought I would drop a line on these forums and Say hi. It's been a while and I am trying to get reconnected.

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    Not sure how many of you use the Rabbit Hill bike park, but it's officially closed.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...490/story.html

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    Passing on this meeting invite to spread the word

    This is an invitation to a Very Special Meeting being held on Friday April 1, 2011 @ 6:30pm @ 118 Ave 92 St Alberta Avenue Community League to plan a Bike Skills Training Facility that will be showcased at Bikeology this June. This is not an April fools joke...fun, but not funny! The bike skills training will involve people from many communities sharing in a project that will bring people to 118 Avenue and promote the areaís revitalization and encourage community. I will be sharing my ideas with the group, and encouraging you all to seek as many people on all levels to get involved in this truly outstanding opportunity!

    THIS IS HUGE!!! I canít say enough about how much I NEED YOUR SUPPORT!!! each and everyone of you play an integral role in this Community, youíre respected members of our City, and can give in ways you may not even see yet? Sponsors, sponsors, sponsors!!!??? if you have ANYONE thatís willing to get advertisement space, we will be asking for word-of-mouth on connecting us with some Choice Vendors/Shops that can be involved in something that will benefit our City, and in turn us!

    This is a Dream of mine......the benefit, a Safe Place to Learn, Play, and Grow as Human Beings!
    Lowering crime, particularly Bike Crime, well this will continue to do so...as has The Spoke!

    I Will be serving FREE PIZZA/DRINKS, so please bring people out, this is a family event, feel free to bring Kids!

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    So what do you guys think? One more week till most stuff is in ok condition?

    I've seen a few spots that are pretty solid already but there is still a little snow (well mainly ice) in the shaded parts.

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    I'm guessing it'll be a while yet on the south side of the river. North side looks okay in most spots, but looks and actual can be very different.

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    Canada Cup trails are a mess still. Some of the upper trails in Mill Creek might be ready soon but the lower trails are several weeks away. Victoria Secret may be good to go until you head North but I have been on it. Ewok is usually one of the first areas to dry up so it shouldn't be too long before it is ready. Terwillegar is usually one of the last places to be able to ride.
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    Down near Fort Edmonton and Patricia Ravine were in really poor shape last weekend....some stuff may dry out a bit, but if we keep getting rain (and possible flurries), I wouldn't expect the ST to be in good riding shape for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Mike
    Down near Fort Edmonton and Patricia Ravine were in really poor shape last weekend....some stuff may dry out a bit, but if we keep getting rain (and possible flurries), I wouldn't expect the ST to be in good riding shape for a while.
    I went for a jog around there today. It's not too bad actually. Some ice in spots but the ground is still pretty dry beneath it. Based on the forecast, i'd think it should be good by next weekend. However, the trails around that area are way overdue for some trimming. If I get a chance this week i'll try to do some.

    Too bad about the other stuff.

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