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    Suggestions for my 22lb FS build?

    Just got my build list together for next season's bike. Should come out at about 22.0 lbs (10kgs). Any suggestions on further reduction? I ordered a Boone ti 20 tooth ring so I may get a Dura-Ace 12-27 but I'd much rather use an all Ti 11-28 or 11-30 cassette that is friendly to Al hub bodies (no cogsets, thank you), but I can't find one.

    Frame: Dean Ace Xlite XL ~2450g
    Fork: Manitou R7 Platinum ~1500g (250mm steerer)
    Wheels: Stan's Olympic 1341g
    Skewers: FRM 68g
    Pedals: Egg Beater 2Ti 221g
    Crankset: FRM Integral 3x9 736g
    Cassette: XTR 11-34 Ti 248g
    F. Der: XTR 132
    R. Der: SRAM X.0 Long Cage 210g
    Brakes: Formula Oro Puro with 1 Stan's Rotor 639g
    Shifters: SRAM X.0 gripshift 175g
    Chain: SRAM PC-99 Hollowpoint 267g
    Bar: Easton EC70 OS low riser 160g (had to go with EC70 because of OS stem choice)
    Stem: Ritchey 4-Axis OS 130mm 17rise 135g (I need that much rise)
    Seatpost: Extralite 27.2 400mm 182g (I need that length)
    Seatpost clamp: Extralite 14g
    Saddle: Koobi Xenon 245g (I have a fat a$$ so I need a wide saddle. anyone tried the 143mm Specialized Toupe???)
    Headset: FRM Team with expander plug 105g
    Tires: Kenda Karma 2.0 ~900g for both
    Grips: Titec Pork Rinds cut 17g
    Chainstay protector: Lizard Skin 12g
    Bottle cage: King Ti 40g
    Headset spacers: Carbon 10g
    Cables: Nokon shift ~50g
    Misc: Dirt, Stan's liquid, etc. ~100g

    Thanks for your input guys (and gals)!
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    pseudo?

    very funny. You have a very, very light spec. However I think your weights are optimistic and you will not get below 22.25lb. Nevertheless -

    - There are some frames which are lighter, but people tend to be rather attached to their frame choice.

    - I'd think you could get away with an 11-32 cassette. Also you should keep your rings as small as possible to reduce chain length. I like 22/29/42. I run a custom 12-28 ti cogset and love it - yes it did dig into my Ti freehub body a bit, but so what. Note it is 20g heavier that DA 12-27.

    - A 10 speed chain or KMX x9sl would be lighter.

    - with the smaller cassette you can run a medium or short cage RD

    - looks to me like you can save 50g or so with other bar/stem. I'm 185lb and use a 130mm WCS 25.4mm dia stem and EC90SL monkey bar and find it to be extremely stiff.

    - the m2 racer seatpost clamp is 8g.



    Quote Originally Posted by williford
    Just got my build list together for next season's bike. Should come out at about 22.0 lbs (10kgs). Any suggestions on further reduction? I ordered a Boone ti 20 tooth ring so I may get a Dura-Ace 12-27 but I'd much rather use an all Ti 11-28 or 11-30 cassette that is friendly to Al hub bodies (no cogsets, thank you), but I can't find one.

    Frame: Dean Ace Xlite XL ~2450g
    Fork: Manitou R7 Platinum ~1500g (250mm steerer)
    Wheels: Stan's Olympic 1341g
    Skewers: FRM 68g
    Pedals: Egg Beater 2Ti 221g
    Crankset: FRM Integral 3x9 736g
    Cassette: XTR 11-34 Ti 248g
    F. Der: XTR 132
    R. Der: SRAM X.0 Long Cage 210g
    Brakes: Formula Oro Puro with 1 Stan's Rotor 639g
    Shifters: SRAM X.0 gripshift 175g
    Chain: SRAM PC-99 Hollowpoint 267g
    Bar: Easton EC70 OS low riser 160g (had to go with EC70 because of OS stem choice)
    Stem: Ritchey 4-Axis OS 130mm 17rise 135g (I need that much rise)
    Seatpost: Extralite 27.2 400mm 182g (I need that length)
    Seatpost clamp: Extralite 14g
    Saddle: Koobi Xenon 245g (I have a fat a$$ so I need a wide saddle. anyone tried the 143mm Specialized Toupe???)
    Headset: FRM Team with expander plug 105g
    Tires: Kenda Karma 2.0 ~900g for both
    Grips: Titec Pork Rinds cut 17g
    Chainstay protector: Lizard Skin 12g
    Bottle cage: King Ti 40g
    Headset spacers: Carbon 10g
    Cables: Nokon shift ~50g
    Misc: Dirt, Stan's liquid, etc. ~100g

    Thanks for your input guys (and gals)!
    M

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    The stem/bar choice came down to needing a 130mm 17deg stem. The only one I can find is the Ritchey 4-axis, which happens to only be OS. Anyone know of a 130 x 17 stem that is 25.4mm?

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    Looks like a very nice bike.

    Sounds like you're a huge dude... XL frame, 130mm stem, 400mm seatpost, etc... In that case make sure you are observing the weight limit on the crank bro's ti pedals. Isn't the 2ti pedal weight limit like 180 pounds or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turdburgle
    Looks like a very nice bike.

    Sounds like you're a huge dude... XL frame, 130mm stem, 400mm seatpost, etc... In that case make sure you are observing the weight limit on the crank bro's ti pedals. Isn't the 2ti pedal weight limit like 180 pounds or something?
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    Ti spindles

    Quote Originally Posted by turdburgle
    Looks like a very nice bike.

    Sounds like you're a huge dude... XL frame, 130mm stem, 400mm seatpost, etc... In that case make sure you are observing the weight limit on the crank bro's ti pedals. Isn't the 2ti pedal weight limit like 180 pounds or something?
    I'm about 175-180lbs which is borderline for ti spindles (3Ti or 4Ti egg beaters), that's why I went with the 2Ti egg beaters.

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    The cranks seem like a slightly heavy choice, why not some Extralite or Storck.

    Also the KMC SL chain will save some good grams, and though the king cages are nice, the BTP 15g MTB cages are lighter and don't drop bottles.
    Add an alloy/ti bolt tuning and get another 50grams or so off.

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