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    Pssst. I have Sram 10 sp Grip Shift on my bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nino
    easy - all that you complain about
    ha ha ha, hope you do not believe that, what is that for an unreliable manufacturer.
    that is absolutely impossible only by change the dents. for the case the dents gets an acuracy index, then the freehand fitting of the twisting part is the next responsible for sketchy shift performance. i think these shifters are designed from a layman with non technical background. but we will see.

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    please no more bad quality chinese parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastback67
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    originals?
    No they're from BCB, but they are grip shifters from Sram



    First ride today was a great experience with them!

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    Pssst. I have Sram 10 sp Grip Shift on my bike!
    Sram 10sp, X0 and 9sp cassette, .....interesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1415chris
    Sram 10sp, X0 and 9sp cassette, .....interesting?
    it's a ten speed cassette!

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    Quote Originally Posted by legsrburnin
    Pssst. I have Sram 10 sp Grip Shift on my bike!
    whats the cost of BCB sram tuning ?
    and you should say theres no weight improvements

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    DeeEight, can you please post pictures of your TT shifters? That's pretty interesting and I can see the advantage of having the Return to Center feature on it. What's the weight of your shifters plus the adaptors? Thanks.

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    They're not mine, I run Paul's Thumbies mounts with DuraAce shifters, but Paul's offers their mounts in SRAM and Campy compatible versions too. So if you wanted you could have a campy drivetrain as 2 or 3x11, or SRAM as 2/3x10. SRAM offers their bar-end shifters in several versions but only 10 speed varieties last I checked. but one model self-centers to an position that points into the wind to minimize drag. Presumably the center-point is adjustable for different models of aero bars (some bend upwards at the end more than others) though.

    <img src="https://pictures.kyozou.com/pictures/_9/8675/8674555.jpg">

    The one on the left would be the SRAM setup in the pic, on the right is the Shimano.

    I have the shimano thumbies setup on one bike with an 8speed cassette, two with nines, and one with ten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legsrburnin
    No they're from BCB, but they are grip shifters from Sram



    First ride today was a great experience with them!
    let us know what you think about them once you get a few more rides.

    How long did it take for you get the shifters and did you send yours in before or just buy them direct from them?

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    nino, I repeat you the question:
    there will be also metal dents update for us with the first plastic units?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by STS
    nino, I repeat you the question:
    there will be also metal dents update for us with the first plastic units?

    thanks
    No

    And i just got the info that the new shifters still need some time. I hoped to have them in hands by now but it might take another 2-4 weeks.

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    blackcatbikes no longer tunes grip shifters, heres an email i got from them a few days ago, when i asked if i could buy some:

    Hi Jordan,

    unfortunatelly we don't produce them anymore... They were taken too long time for us and we are now involved in other projects.

    On the other hand, I don't think you will need to wait too long untill Sram launches their new GS for 10speeds... Have a search in bikerumor.com

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    SRAM 10 speed Twist Shifters?

    Gerard is a top bloke, its well worth keeping tabs on the BCB website to see what he's been up to lately : http://www.blackcatbonebikes.com/bla...Productos.html

    ................................

    http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/06/10/...new-dh-cranks/

    SRAM Press Camp Rumors #2 and #3 - Ten Speed Twisters and new DH Cranks
    posted by Tyler (Editor) - June 10, 2010 - 10am EDT

    "Ever since SRAM came out with trigger shifters, it seems they’ve been slowly putting more emphasis on them with OEM placements and now with the 10-speed systems. I asked why the new 2×10 groups went solely with trigger options, and here was the response:

    “You’ve gotta start somewhere,” says Chris Hilton, SRAM product manager. “Triggers are an extremely precise system, they integrate really nicely with the brakes, particularly with our Matchmaker set up, and the ergonomics and adjustability are really good.”

    Of course, there are those of us that long for top-level twisters to make a comeback, and there are top pros like Julien Absalon (pictured, older photo when he was still running twisters) that, as Hilton put it, have “requested, not demanded” them. So, are they coming? So far, comments around the press camp indicate so, ranging from:

    “They’re aren’t any out in the wild. Well, not any you’re going to see.”

    “It’s something that’s in the works.”

    …and similar such things. No timeline so far, but we haven’t had the first real tech session yet either."

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    i am using blackcatbones X.0 tuned x 10 speeds since feb 2010

    nice work !!

    now i have a another X.0 GS ready , tuned x 10 here in Italy , ready for my next bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliflap
    i have a another X.0 GS ready , tuned x 10 here in Italy , ready for my next bike
    that's cool! - you are always first with the latest & greatest!

    do you have any more info, do they have a website?
    ... are they taking orders for converted SRAM XO twist shifters?

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    For now, I would prefer to use X0 10 speed tuned twist shifters to go with my X0 derailleurs (I have 3 of them). When the time comes for a new RD, I will most likely go with the XX, and at that time will want to XX twist shifters to go with them.

    I'm also interested in more information about your new Italian source for these modded shifters.

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    has anyone got a BCB modded gripshift for sale?

    thanks

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    here mine , modified here in Italy ... however i must wait until september for my new frame

    to test it
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SRAM XX Gripshift shifters-hpim0868.jpg  


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    who modified, do they do orders?

    thanks

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    http://www.blackcatbonebikes.com/bla...locidades.html

    like I said, I'm pretty sure they don't make it anymore
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    Dang that's heavy. I'll stick to thumbshifters. 125 grams for a pair beats 99.7 for one.

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    I switched from 970 Triggers to X0. I would love to switch to XX, but not until GS comes out. If I'm forced to go back to triggers, it will be with Shimano.
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    I know it's against forum rules but I hope they make an exemption for this one. Just saw these and looks very interesting if BCB aren't making them anymore.
    http://cgi.ebay.de/Sram-XX-10-Fach-G...ht_5237wt_1137

    Sorry, just noticed that this is what fantic26 is offering. The mods can delete this if they want to.

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    This is complety worthless , theres no weight loss BCB or fantic26 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcatax
    This is complety worthless , theres no weight loss BCB or fantic26 .
    Why worthless?? XO twisters performs great! way better than any other plastic shifters like microshift and sec. therefore they weight more!

    PS. Soon i'll get mine tuned XO GS from fantic26
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohadamirov
    Why worthless?? XO twisters performs great! way better than any other plastic shifters like microshift and sec. therefore they weight more!

    PS. Soon i'll get mine tuned XO GS from fantic26
    Theres not weight improvement over originals , this is just cheap publicity .

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcatax
    Theres not weight improvement over originals , this is just cheap publicity .
    This is not about improve the weight! is about to make them work with 0.8 ratio of the XX rear deraiileur! those tuned gs weight +/- the same as the XX triggers and gives you two important things! 1- the grip shift. 2- the mirco adjust on the front derailleur! there is no other alternatives!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohadamirov
    This is not about improve the weight! is about to make them work with 0.8 ratio of the XX rear deraiileur! those tuned gs weight +/- the same as the XX triggers and gives you two important things! 1- the grip shift. 2- the mirco adjust on the front derailleur! there is no other alternatives!
    Oh sorry thought this forum is about it
    I run 1x9 and still waiting for the sec 9v sram comp , i could go thumbie but dont like , atleast this thumbie improves x0s weight .

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    any news on the old X0 model?

    i would like to run a setup like, if not available i will buy a sram red rear mech and buy your product fron ebay.de


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    Curious, the topic of 1X9 came up earlier in this thread, and I was wondering how practical this sort of setup would be for the average guy? In the most practical sense, what are the pros and what are the cons?

    I am not 'joe technical' so your feedback provided is always appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by single speed kid
    Curious, the topic of 1X9 came up earlier in this thread, and I was wondering how practical this sort of setup would be for the average guy? In the most practical sense, what are the pros and what are the cons?

    I am not 'joe technical' so your feedback provided is always appreciated!

    1x9 pros? Well, since you are a single speed kid, 1x9 is much more practical for an average guy. About 9 times more practical!

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    The practicality, or usability will depend on your terrain and how strong you are.
    I tried 1x8 a few years back and suffered badly in a race, but that was a race and my 8spd was 11-30. (can't remember the front ring, but probably 32 or 34).

    A 9 spd cassette can offer a fairly large spread, so with appropriate ring up front it may be completely fine, and when my 8spd cassettes are pooched I'm going to try the 1x9 thing.

    Other pros though aren't (imho) of huge significance. You get to ditch a front derailleur, shifter and cables but still need a good chain guide.
    If you suffered chain suck that would be a benefit, but otherwise, I've never had much issue with front shifting. Good rings and gripshift makes for an extremely tolerant front shifting arrangment so while I'm going to try 1x9, it's not because of any perceived equipment benefit. I just think maybe 9 gears might be all I need for the riding I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kark
    You get to ditch a front derailleur, shifter and cables but still need a good chain guide.
    My chain guide weight 6g , made of ritchey carbon handlebar



    2 weeks and no problems but i will try tune rohloff and mrp chain guides .

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    How is it possible to run such a setup without marks from the chain on the chainstay (also on your other bikes)? Please tell me your secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by checky
    How is it possible to run such a setup without marks from the chain on the chainstay (also on your other bikes)? Please tell me your secret.
    he doesn't actually ride his bike. shh It's a secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by checky
    How is it possible to run such a setup without marks from the chain on the chainstay (also on your other bikes)? Please tell me your secret.
    I love chains and chains love me .
    Im sorry sergio we are full

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergio_pt
    he doesn't actually ride his bike. shh It's a secret.
    Think so too. That fits to some other experiences he wrote about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by checky
    Think so too. That fits to some other experiences he wrote about.
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    Looks like SRAM is loosing business. good job man

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    Quote Originally Posted by single speed kid
    Curious, the topic of 1X9 came up earlier in this thread, and I was wondering how practical this sort of setup would be for the average guy? In the most practical sense, what are the pros and what are the cons?

    I am not 'joe technical' so your feedback provided is always appreciated!
    It totally depends on where you ride. Personally, the trails I ride on are hilly, but nothing too ridiculous. If I was in a mountainous area, I'd probably ride 2x9, with my middle and granny gears. I rarely have a need for a large chainring on my MTB, so I replaced it with a bashguard.

    If you have enough gearing to climb your steepest hills, I'd say ride 1x9. It saves weight through elimination of parts--FD, front shifter, 2 chainrings, cable and housing--and gets rid of complexity. Also, by ditching the large ring and using a bashguard, you have more log clearance, and you never need to worry about the chainring teeth coming in contact with your calves.

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    10sp Griftshift

    If anybody from SRAM is reading this. WE WANT 10SP GRIFTSHIFT PLEASE!!!

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    Please post your request in the SRAM board. They do read that BOARD
    The subject is on going @ https://forums.mtbr.com/sram/wanted-10-speed-gripshift-xx-xo-i-e-gripshift-origins-sram-652581.html
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    I'd go 10 if grips were made available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcatax
    My chain guide weight 6g , made of ritchey carbon handlebar



    2 weeks and no problems but i will try tune rohloff and mrp chain guides .

    How is the 'stick' chainguide working out? I need to install something on my next build.

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    When do you have time to build with all the moderating ?
    I don't post to generate business for myself or make like I'm better than sliced bread

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    a new HD Video ModII 10 speed + xtr rd-m980 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17aqpBeuiM

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    Your first post is spam and only for your private business?
    I see, you expand your private business all over the world.

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    I have only found a way to solve a problem as has employed many bikers around the earth! I like this part and give it away more cost effective ... :-) Dont be worry

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    At first read.
    Then think!
    And then write.
    OK?
    The business you make is unlaw.
    That´s fact.
    You make spam. That´s also fact.
    And that there are problems with the gear indicator that´s also fact.

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    ist your opinion !
    you can also availible in a tuning shop with bill and guarantie ! but you have to pay the tax and provison !
    The indicator ? important ? no ! other shifters has no one or only high and low !
    The World team bikers are testing these mods and they are happy about that someone had make this job ! that is enough ! Sec/recon did a bad faulty shift job now it´s time for made in germany ;-)

    found it in a thread :Because Nino singled him out by name for bashing. PeterGer is ANOTHER recon dealer,....


    ah !! That´s is the reason ..loosing buisness ! Ok i understand .... i´m be quit ;-) Sorry
    Last edited by fantic26; 10-06-2010 at 01:39 PM.

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    Blablablablablablablablablablablablabla


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    http://www.p-o-s.eu/

    its your shop ? or isen´t it ?

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    OK, I see. You not understand and you are a newbie.
    Please read here: Forum rules
    I think that helps you.

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    OK i see

    The admin will deleate my faulty posts when this are bad information for the useres !

    THX
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGer
    At first read.
    Then think!
    And then write.
    OK?
    The business you make is unlaw.
    That´s fact.
    You make spam. That´s also fact.
    And that there are problems with the gear indicator that´s also fact.
    What law is being broken? I don't think there is any law against marketing the shifters the way he is.
    And I don't care if he is marketing it.
    What don't you like, the fact that he is helping people, or making money?
    Both are ok with me. But forum guidelines do have some restrictions on peddling merchandise. I'm not clear what the rules are but that's a problem for moderators, not you or me.

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    Check the sticky post from rensho on advertising, including the followup post in the thread from jake pay which references to the Nino is banned announcement thread.
    I don't post to generate business for myself or make like I'm better than sliced bread

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    Hey guys, yes, these are spam posts. Looks like the poster gets it and has modified most of his posts. I'm OK with it for now, and won't delete all the posts surrounding this.

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    THX admin !

    Actually Sabine Spitz is testing the xx mod ;-)

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    Smile Modified XO twist shifters

    Hi,

    I'm interested in bying a set of those shifters you modify.
    10 speed for XX rear derailleur.
    How to proceed?

    Best

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    send a mail to [email protected] for more informations

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    I didn't read all the posts here. Stopped when I got to the I hate Grip Shift post so I'msure there are haters but I think Grip Shift is the only way to shift and like others I will stick with 9 speed as long as 10 speed means no Grip Shift.

    I was just on the DownHill/Freeride forum where I was talking up GS yesterday.

    This is my first time on this forum and noticed all the talk of 10 speed GS and minutes ago went to the Sram site to give them a link so they could get a clue as to what lengths people are going to to avoid triggers. But I didn't see an email contact with a quick look around. Then I saw this thread.

    Sram...I think you'd make your money back on the R&D and tool up if you did 10 speed GS. Shoot I'd probably even spring for your over priced cassette to go with it
    No it never stops hurting, but if you keep at it you can go faster.

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    Is the re-engineering really anything more than the right shifter? The left would probably work as. I am even ok with a trigger on the left side as it is only "on/off" really. I'd actually like it like a pop-lock with the swing under the bar instead of over.

    The other thing I'd do if I was Sram was make 1 casing and just incorporate the model on the grip part, XX/XO/X9. I think a couple different grip shapes to chose from would be good.

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    Only the reight is mod !
    So you can also use a normal trigger for the left side !
    Regards

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    Another thing that would be nice is if you could just buy a right shifter. I'm moving to only one chain ring on all my current builds and have extra front shifters in a box. Although I have thought of trying to convert a front gripshift to a bar mount Talas shifter for my fork. Not sure if it has enough throw however.

    Sram likely wouldn't do that however since they have you as it is.

    Is there any truth to discontinuing XO grip shift? If so better stock up.
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    I just called Sram and was told that they have no plans to discontinue Gripshift. But you never know.

    They also said there has been in house talk of 10 speed GS but so far they are holding out. The problem has something to do with integration with there brake levers but I didn't inquire further on that and don't really understand how that could be an issue. Maybe the levers are too short or something and GS is too long??

    More requests would help. Particularly from manufacturers she said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier
    I just called Sram and was told that they have no plans to discontinue Gripshift. But you never know.

    They also said there has been in house talk of 10 speed GS but so far they are holding out. The problem has something to do with integration with there brake levers but I didn't inquire further on that and don't really understand how that could be an issue. Maybe the levers are too short or something and GS is too long??

    More requests would help. Particularly from manufacturers she said.

    So write your congressman.
    I think all the grip shifters should be made shorter. If that's the end result of this, I'll be happy.

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    I just built an X9 2X10 for a customer, and I did not care for the X9 shifters. I loved the 2X10, but I think I would have been happier with ShimaNo shifters, and I hate ShimaNo. However, after a look at the XX shifters, I think the ergos are much different, and AM/DH would like the X9 shifters, and I might be happier with XX shifters. So why not make GS for X0 and below? It seems they would be cheaper to make lighter, and if you make just one model, productions costs might be reduced, unless each RD has a different pull ratio.

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    SRAM Gripshift XX? NOT!

    Quote Originally Posted by ron4130
    How would you feel if Sram launched XX Gripshifter?
    Would you like it?
    Would you not?

    Let me know what you think about the idea.
    Sorry SRAM... if you cannot take care of someone like me, who has bought 5 different pairs of gripshifts for 4 different bikes in the last 7 years (Blur, Yeti, Mojo, Trek), then I will not be running SRAM on next years bike (either a new Mojo or Pivot). Your triggers shift is not nearly as good as Shimano, so you lose me and my SRAM gripshift buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregoryb02
    Sorry SRAM... if you cannot take care of someone like me, who has bought 5 different pairs of gripshifts for 4 different bikes in the last 7 years (Blur, Yeti, Mojo, Trek), then I will not be running SRAM on next years bike (either a new Mojo or Pivot). Your triggers shift is not nearly as good as Shimano, so you lose me and my SRAM gripshift buddies.

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    SRAM... losing long time customers!

    COOL! I am dead serious... I'll drop SRAM like a hot potato for a Shimano Trigger IF SRAM cannot provide me with a gripshift. I am a SRAM fan BECAUSE of gripshift, but their triggers take a big back seat to Shimano.

    You don't have to read between the lines here SRAM.. no gripshift, no future business from me. I am personally responsible for getting three of my riding buddies to convert to gripshift, but they won't be hanging with you on their next purchase if you don't include the grip in your XX lineup!

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    Sram are not loosing costumers

    here in Italy lots of us are using X.0 modified fro XX from fantic26 ...

    so they are selling lots of X.0 gripshifters again

    ..so ..stop crying like women ! and go with tuned ones ...

    still wait for factory ones ???? ok , heaven can wait, me not....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliflap
    Sram are not loosing costumers

    here in Italy lots of us are using X.0 modified fro XX from fantic26 ...

    so they are selling lots of X.0 gripshifters again

    ..so ..stop crying like women ! and go with tuned ones ...

    still wait for factory ones ???? ok , heaven can wait, me not....
    agreed. hopefully the ones i ordered work great. only ordered one set though, so i will only have them on my race bike (not on training bike)
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Live
    Is the re-engineering really anything more than the right shifter? The left would probably work as. I am even ok with a trigger on the left side as it is only "on/off" really. I'd actually like it like a pop-lock with the swing under the bar instead of over.

    The other thing I'd do if I was Sram was make 1 casing and just incorporate the model on the grip part, XX/XO/X9. I think a couple different grip shapes to chose from would be good.

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    Currently running a 2x10 with a XO twist shift on the left set-up 2 speed and a X9 trigger 10speed on the right.

    Just waiting on Sram to make 10 speed twist. I would buy them the 1st day available.

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    Why do you prefer the SRAM X.0 grip shifters modified for XX 10 speeds instead of the Recon grip shifters? Is it a matter of weight or reliability?
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    Recon is liter some g

    Sram xx mod

    The Funktion is better

    No chaine jumping

    The spring force is higher so not so early faulty shifts in offroad area

    The grips has more comfort lower shore hardness

    Better optic more quallity

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantic26
    Recon is liter some g
    Sram xx mod
    The Funktion is better
    No chaine jumping
    The spring force is higher so not so early faulty shifts in offroad area
    The grips has more comfort lower shore hardness
    Better optic more quallity
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    Your advice is to opt in for the X.0 modified. I will buy the Sven's modified.
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    Anybody modifying these stateside yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppower
    Why do you prefer the SRAM X.0 grip shifters modified for XX 10 speeds instead of the Recon grip shifters? Is it a matter of weight or reliability?
    I have used both
    Recon is half the weight of the X0, but is unusable, lot of ghost shifts, and chain and parts are always in danger
    X0 modified with my new X9 2011 RD works perfectly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    Dang that's heavy. I'll stick to thumbshifters. 125 grams for a pair beats 99.7 for one.
    are you on crack , may you please referd med to a PAIR of shifters that may weight less than 99g a piece... please do. srammies XX's are 91.5 a piece.... but where can you find the SET for 125G

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    Quote Originally Posted by juankast26 View Post
    are you on crack , may you please referd med to a PAIR of shifters that may weight less than 99g a piece... please do. srammies XX's are 91.5 a piece.... but where can you find the SET for 125G

    Ummmm, same as any of the rest of us do it... I said THUMBSHIFTERS... take DuraAce Bar-end shifters, fit to paul's thumbies mounts and presto, 125g shifter set available depending on which series bar-end shifter you use, 8 to 10 speed indexed rear end. The weight is I gave was for my tuned (with Ti and Al hardware) set without cables. With cables and stock steel hardware that comes with the pauls mounts, a pair I just put on a scale was 158g and that's still lighter than XX shifters.

    Of course if bulletproof reliability and being compatible with all non dyna-sys rear shimano derailleurs isn't good enough for you, then you're too much of a pansy for my time.

    These are a set of mine on one of my bikes, its a 2x9 setup on the bike with a titanium 11-32 cassette.

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    The time is ripe.

    This morning I found a photo on a Facebook post and I posted it on my own blog:

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    i like the new low profile view of it. but still not a fan of the rubber grip.
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    I got mine from Sven, now waiting for parts to finish my 29er build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a2gtinut View Post
    I got mine from Sven, now waiting for parts to finish my 29er build.
    You have a set? Pics?

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    it is just X0 with new guts. I delivered my X0 right shifter only and few days later he shipped it US.

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    A close up pic, I just wonder if the housing is plastic or actual Carbon Fiber?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SRAM XX Gripshift shifters-sramxx_twist_10sp.jpg  

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    so what about weights prices and selling places?

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    NicE!!! I want a set!
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    When will the new X.X Twisters available?? Really wanna get a set!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergio_pt View Post
    so what about weights prices and selling places?
    No more information about that. I'm looking forward to getting a set before April.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdaysunrise View Post
    A close up pic, I just wonder if the housing is plastic or actual Carbon Fiber?
    You don't need carbon fiber for such component. Strong plastic is enough, as the previous XO twist shifters 9 speeds.
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    Yeah, I was just wondering about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STS View Post
    I have used both
    Recon is half the weight of the X0, but is unusable, lot of ghost shifts, and chain and parts are always in danger
    So the 'Recon' 9/10 grip shifter is no good????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdaysunrise View Post
    A close up pic, I just wonder if the housing is plastic or actual Carbon Fiber?
    Im sure that is UD carbon fiber.

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    The XX GS is SICK!!!

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    Hopefully Sram doesn't smack us with the price on these. Regardless of the price though, these will be a necessity for me once they fully hit the market.

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    Cant disclose any info but Sram will be releasing X0 10 speed shifters as well. Saw the pics of the silver edition.

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    What the hell sram, hurry up and release these things already!

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    Finally!!!

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    On SRAM website now: SRAM | SRAM

    So what is the weight of these things??

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    Available in April......Such a good news!!!

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    Msrp

    from a guy at SRAM today.
    MSRP
    xx 295$
    xo 225$

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgar380 View Post
    from a guy at SRAM today.
    MSRP
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    xo 225$
    Plenty discussion on another thread about the joke SRAM is playing on us. It is one of the worst possible corporate-style scams in recent bicycle history. $225-295 for a shifter that probably will weight more than XTR when current 9 speed grip shift are around $50? Don't think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post
    Plenty discussion on another thread about the joke SRAM is playing on us. It is one of the worst possible corporate-style scams in recent bicycle history. $225-295 for a shifter
    But weight weenies would pay that much for a stem, a cassette, a pair of rotors, a hub, a rear derailleur, a saddle, a seat post, etc... .

    BB (still planning on running 9 speed as long as I can)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown View Post
    But weight weenies would pay that much for a stem, a cassette, a pair of rotors, a hub, a rear derailleur, a saddle, a seat post, etc... .

    BB (still planning on running 9 speed as long as I can)
    And it this case they would be paying 4 times as much for something that weights MORE than last year products. 10 speed cassette vs 9 has a penalty of at least 40-60 grams, and the 10 speed grip-shift will get very close to XTR (the 9 is already just 20 grams lighter).

    So, yes, I will too run 9 speed as long as I can

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    Are they out YET? Need to know the weights, to decide if I'll update to 2x10 or not....

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    Here is the best update that I have found for the new XX and XO 10 speed gripshift.

    //bikemagic.com/gear/sram-grip-shift-is-back-and-goes-10-speed.html]SRAM Grip Shift is back, and goes 10-speed » Bike Magic

    rumors around town is these might be available in July.

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    They are already delayed until May

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    why the delay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergio_pt View Post
    why the delay?
    Don't know but that is the date from QBP, no more details or more accurate date.

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    Gore did it too. delayed... maybe May.

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    You wouldn't think they would be having so much trouble adding just one click and changing the spacing a bit. We put a man on the moon in less time.

    Personally I think when they went from 9 to 10 speeds they should have just jumped up to 150mm hub spacing on everything and added another cog at the same index. This inching up a few millimeters every few years crap is stupid. 135 to 142 or 150 what's the dif? Personally I design bikes around 170mm rear hubs so they can accommodate any tires/ wheels on the market. But that takes way to much foresight for the bike industry to wrap their little brains around, so at least give us 150mm. And who cares what road bikes are doing. That is a whole separate world with little cross over.

    I'm going to have to think long an hard and probably wear out all my 9 speed stuff before I spend that kind of money on a shifter. It may even force me to go trigger which I haven't used for at least 10 years. Sram you may be loosing a loyal advocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    You wouldn't think they would be having so much trouble adding just one click and changing the spacing a bit. We put a man on the moon in less time.

    Personally I think when they went from 9 to 10 speeds they should have just jumped up to 150mm hub spacing on everything and added another cog at the same index. This inching up a few millimeters every few years crap is stupid. 135 to 142 or 150 what's the dif? Personally I design bikes around 170mm rear hubs so they can accommodate any tires/ wheels on the market. But that takes way to much foresight for the bike industry to wrap their little brains around, so at least give us 150mm. And who cares what road bikes are doing. That is a whole separate world with little cross over.

    I'm going to have to think long an hard and probably wear out all my 9 speed stuff before I spend that kind of money on a shifter. It may even force me to go trigger which I haven't used for at least 10 years. Sram you may be loosing a loyal advocate.
    it is called "planned obsolescence". it is a great strategy as long as you have the marketing/demand to sell your current product. Microsoft perfected the model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    You wouldn't think they would be having so much trouble adding just one click and changing the spacing a bit. We put a man on the moon in less time.

    Personally I think when they went from 9 to 10 speeds they should have just jumped up to 150mm hub spacing on everything and added another cog at the same index. This inching up a few millimeters every few years crap is stupid. 135 to 142 or 150 what's the dif? Personally I design bikes around 170mm rear hubs so they can accommodate any tires/ wheels on the market. But that takes way to much foresight for the bike industry to wrap their little brains around, so at least give us 150mm. And who cares what road bikes are doing. That is a whole separate world with little cross over.

    I'm going to have to think long an hard and probably wear out all my 9 speed stuff before I spend that kind of money on a shifter. It may even force me to go trigger which I haven't used for at least 10 years. Sram you may be loosing a loyal advocate.


    Give us 135mm front hubs while your at it, enough with the road bike standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Give us 135mm front hubs while your at it, enough with the road bike standard.
    Yep. 170 rear 135 front. Make for stronger wheels and better side load triangulation on frames and forks. Plus more room to do what ever you want with rotors and clusters. No more trying to squeeze too much stuff in too little space. Give em 15 years and it will likely be the standard.

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    Hey guys, I put them up on our site for pre-order:

    SRAM XX Gripshift - 2x10 in Tree Fort Bikes Shifters (cat96)
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    Jesus H Christ....those things cost an arm, leg and nutsack now!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    Jesus H Christ....those things cost an arm, leg and nutsack now!!!!
    Yep. You can get 2011 X0s for $63 at Pricepoint. Or for 4.7 times the price you can get XX. I mean 10 speed is cool but is it that cool? I think things have gotten out of hand.

    Sram needs to speak up and educate us on why these shifters are such a vast improvement over XOs. They gotta be a vast improvement for that price, right? Just adding a gear can't cost that much. I've never had any issues with XOs.

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    you have already seen this right?
    New SRAM Grip Shift – Tech Details, Photos, Weights & First Impressions - Bike Rumor

    Looks cool Could be lighter though...

    What do you guys think?

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    I think they failed, no front derailleur micro trimming, and they over engineered everything to jack up the price, the old plastic ones seem to outlive every other bike component, worked flawlessly and are cheap, these things are the same but super pricey because they used a bunch of nonsensical high price parts to build it.
    The only thing I like about the new ones are the integrated grip, though I don't like how it is propitiatory. I used to like sram, but now I think they suck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willymcd View Post
    I think they failed, no front derailleur micro trimming, and they over engineered everything to jack up the price, the old plastic ones seem to outlive every other bike component, worked flawlessly and are cheap, these things are the same but super pricey because they used a bunch of nonsensical high price parts to build it.
    The only thing I like about the new ones are the integrated grip, though I don't like how it is propitiatory. I used to like sram, but now I think they suck!
    Agree. SRAM is turning into Shimano. Very arrogant and trying to empty our wallets with fancy advertising. SRAM gained market share on Shimano because shimano got expensive and arrogant. Now they've opened the door for Shimano to do the same.

    The XX twist are a joke. If my new bike didn't come with 10-speed I'd be running 9 still. There is no benefit with 10 for me. I had similar gearing set up with my 9 speed plus 9 is half maintenance cost.

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    apart from the whole $ argument and frustration (wich I understand), I,d have 2 questions for you guys

    1-Will the XO new grip shift be compatible with a full sram XX drivetrain?

    2-Anyone here is gonna buy them as soon as they are out? (think I am going to...)

    thanks

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    1. Yes

    2. If I have the money.

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    I have checked into the guy who does the old gripshift conversion. To buy a new set from him is $170 U.S. To send in your existing shifters, it's $100. He is charging more for the conversion than the actual shifters cost. Looks like SRAM isn't really that bad after all. I still think they are ripping us off though

    The old design is just so simple, I think I would rather have my 9spd converted to 10spd instead if buying the new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devincicx View Post
    apart from the whole $ argument and frustration (wich I understand), I,d have 2 questions for you guys

    1-Will the XO new grip shift be compatible with a full sram XX drivetrain?

    2-Anyone here is gonna buy them as soon as they are out? (think I am going to...)

    thanks
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    yes!

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    now WHEN will these babies be available in the bike shops?

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    got to test them out today at Sea Otter. I dont like the feel of the new shifter grips. They feel like the have smaller knobs compared to my 9 speed XO grip shifts. And seem more slippery. Hopefully they will be able to be replaced. The shifting on the other hand feels good, shifting up front from small ring to big with one click.

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    did you happen to have a hint as to when they will be available for purchase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devincicx View Post
    did you happen to have a hint as to when they will be available for purchase?
    yes i asked them and they said next month. Went back to try them today with gloves on and the grip feels better with my gloves on than bare handed.

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    I noticed that Absalon used them in Pietermaritzburg, but went back to trigger shifters in Houffalize. I guess he didn't like them.

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    yep noticed exactly the same thing.

    Someone knows if its gonna save a little bit of weight over a XX trigger match maker combo?

    I am temped to buy them, think id prefer the shifting and the cockpit looks a lot cleaner.

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    I will try them, the only reason im not riding my 2x10 group is because it didnt have gripshift.
    ONCE YOU RIDE FAT U WONT GO BACK!

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    Now they just need to offer a shimano dynasys derailleur compatible version for the following model year as well as the x9 and x7 versions.
    I don't post to generate business for myself or make like I'm better than sliced bread

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    Now they just need to offer a shimano dynasys derailleur compatible version for the following model year as well as the x9 and x7 versions.
    SRAM is coming out with their own type 2 rear derailleur

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