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    Just got a set of Lupine Nightmare

    And do they light up. They offer 25W for 2 hours and 10 minutes. They light up my whole backyard. Was wondering if I should buy the Edison 5, but thats the double in price, but it's about 400g lighter and the batterypackage is just so little you could loose it and then you can use your waterbottle.
    The quality is just perfect. When you switch between high and low setting that light just fades slowly, very cool. You can also program the light, to suit your personal taste.

    I have made a catagory on The Machinist, so if you have any picture send them my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders
    Was wondering if I should buy the Edison 5, but thats the double in price, but it's about 400g lighter and the batterypackage is just so little you could loose it and then you can use your waterbottle
    I have the Edison 5/10...I have the small battery and large water bottle battery, but only 1 light. Incredible light! Here are my comments: http://forums13.consumerreview.com/[email protected]/5
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    Mike, I looked at Lupines website, where they write that the Edison 5 weigh 480, but you say yours weigh 699g?
    They also state that the Nightmare weigh 830g, but mine is 948g.
    I have send them a mail to hear what they have to say about it.
    I had decided to get the Edison 5, but that was when I thought it weighed 480g, now I'm not so sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders
    Mike, I looked at Lupines website, where they write that the Edison 5 weigh 480, but you say yours weigh 699g?
    They also state that the Nightmare weigh 830g, but mine is 948g.
    I have send them a mail to hear what they have to say about it.
    I had decided to get the Edison 5, but that was when I thought it weighed 480g, now I'm not so sure.
    Anders,

    Oops...I had accidentally written the 11.0 Ah battery weight as the 5.5 Ah.

    I just re-weighed my system:
    1. 5.5 Ah Li-Ion battery pack = 281g
    2. 11.0 Ah Li-Ion water bottle battery pack (w/ battery inside) = 631g...battery alone = 533g
    3. Edison light unit = 168g

    So, the total weight for the Edison 5 = 449g. Total weight for the Edison 10 = 799g (or 699g with the large battery without the water bottle casing)
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    Thanks, I'm going got the Edison 5 then. It's about 540g lighter than the nightmare, that's a cheap weightsaving.

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    i have the Babylu...840g

    mine is the Babylu although besides the colour it looks almost identical to yours.if i remember right my set weigh 840g.worth every gram! i prefer the bigger batterypack as it allows you to go with full beam for about 2 hours or up to 5-6 hours in low mode. two of my friends have the smaller,handier batterypack and they are always trying to avoid to use the higher setting to save energy...and on longer rides they have to bring along a second set just to be sure.hey, it's night and in the darkness it's not the grams that count, it's about having good lights at all time.

    my Lupine Babylu:
    <img src="http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/Lupine(7).jpg">

    on really epic rides i even ad the much heavier Sigma Mirage X to the handlebar.it has 2 beams and going downhills with all 3 set at maximum you have more lights than any car..way cool!the Sigma adds another 1000g but then again who cares.it's about having fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders
    Thanks, I'm going got the Edison 5 then. It's about 540g lighter than the nightmare, that's a cheap weightsaving.
    Don't go by weight alone. You must consider how long you'll actually be riding. If 2.5 hrs on High and 4.0 hrs on Low is adequate for you, then go with the 5.5 Ah battery.

    For me, I bought the small battery plus the large battery because I race in 24 Hr solo races and need long burntimes. The burntimes are as follows:

    Small 5.5 Ah Li-Ion:
    - low = 4 hrs
    - high = 2.5 hrs

    Large 11.0 Ah Li-Ion:
    - low = 8 hrs
    - high = 5 hrs

    For a 24 Hr race, I begin with the smaller battery and plan on approximately 3 hrs of burntime. I like to err on the conservative side. I generally ride on Low, but like to be able to switch to High for certain technical areas.

    Then, I swap to the larger battery...which has been removed from the water bottle casing and can easily be stored in a jersey pocket. This will give me 6 hrs. While I'm out with the large battery, I'm charging the small battery. After ~6 hrs, I swap back to the smaller battery to finish out the night laps. This worked perfectly for me last summer!

    Enjoy your Lupine!
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    Just ordered the Edison 5...

    Nino, that doesn't sound like you. If you do these 24H races 540g must mean something. I'm not cutting down on runtime, when changing from the Nightmare to the Edison 5, nor light output.

    The Nightmare runs for 2h 10min on 25W setting, and 3h on 16W.

    The Edison 5 runs 2h 30min on 10W xenon (equals 65W halogen), and 4h on 10W xenon (equals 40W halogen).

    Going with the Edison 5 I save at least 500g, and get my bottle cage free. I was thinking of just getting the Passubio XC, to save weight and get the botte cage free, but then I would only have 16W halogen for 2h, which I think is to little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders
    Going with the Edison 5 I save at least 500g, and get my bottle cage free. I was thinking of just getting the Passubio XC, to save weight and get the botte cage free, but then I would only have 16W halogen for 2h, which I think is to little.
    Keep in mind that the Edison is a bar-mounted light. You will need a helmet-mount kit:



    For 99% of the riding/racing I do, I use the Edison as a helmet light.
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    I was going to mount it on the bar. Isn't the beam wide enough, so you can see what is on both sides of you, when it's mounted on the bar? Can't the light shake so much, that you get tired in your head and where do you put the battery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders
    I was going to mount it on the bar. Isn't the beam wide enough, so you can see what is on both sides of you, when it's mounted on the bar? Can't the light shake so much, that you get tired in your head and where do you put the battery?
    Bar or helmet, it's all a personal preference. Some prefer bar, others prefer helmet. I prefer helmet since the light is always shining where you are looking. But, when conditions dictate, I'll use the Edison as a bar light. This is typically for foggy, snowy, dusty, rainy, etc. nights where using a helmet light is like using high-beams on your car.

    The Edison is meant to be mounted on the bar, so you'll have no issues.

    The Edison is light enough that I've never noticed it on my head.
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    i recommend helmet mounted....

    just as described above it's in misty/foggy conditions that helmet mount isn't good.other than that the helmet adapter is making best use of lights in the dark.
    in offroad riding the bar mounted lights will shake too much.too many vibrations...the helmet mount is far better and allows you to et a look into corners where with the handlebar monted lights you can't go around sharper bends.

    i don't race in the night. that's why i don't care about the weight too much.i use the lights because during winter it allows you to go riding after work...

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