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    Thought you guys might enjoy this....got a reply from Ted today about the frame:




    "I actually remember that frame. I've built about 3000 now. Built in 1983 or so for Doug Day. A regional phenom who I helped with equipment for a few years until Richard Sachs decided to give him more than I could. This was built very early in my career and I'm glad it still exists.

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    Ted"


    I emailed him back to see what type of racing Doug Day did on it, and if he remembered how it was built up:


    "Back then citizen (not USCF) racing was popular. Short road races 15-50 miles. Doug won pretty much everything he entered. I was best man at his wedding and we have been long time friends, but as it happens as we get older we only are in contact from time to time now. Campy Record was the stuff to have then. I'm pretty sure that is the way it was equipped. . My wife and I attended just about every event within reasonable driving distance. Gave away a lot of money in primes. We loved bicycle racing and supported skinny tire racing big time. I've been building for 33 years now and have way more work than I can handle. Some health issues have slowed things to a crawl at times, but as my WEB site says,"I ain't dead yet". I plan to do as much as I can do as long as I can do it.

    Thanks for getting in touch. I think you will like the bike.

    Ted"




    Pretty darn cool...I doubt I'll be able to afford a vintage Record build, but I guess I might need to try, lol.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    I doubt I'll be able to afford a vintage Record build, but I guess I might need to try, lol.
    Super Record can be a little expensive, but you can generally find Nuovo Record for a little less - both would work on a early 80s frame. Where it gets fun/expensive/frustrating is getting the correct date stamps to match your frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Super Record can be a little expensive, but you can generally find Nuovo Record for a little less - both would work on a early 80s frame. Where it gets fun/expensive/frustrating is getting the correct date stamps to match your frame.

    Nuovo Record is actually quite affordable largely due to the fact that it was made for such a long time and prices for vintage stuff are a bit weak right now. Front mechs are easily had at $15 to $30 Rears for $40 to $50. But by far the least expensive way to get the kit you want is to buy a parts donor bike. Look for brands like Basso that were plentiful but not too collectible now. I did this when I built the '69 Cinelli, found a bike with all original date code matching parts for about $500. Which is a fraction of the cost if I had tried to source the parts one at a time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Love that bike. I'm a sucker for those flat crown forks. That's a beauty.
    Yeah, it's a sweet one for sure. Rides awesome too. It's got just the right melange of parts too, about 3 differing vintages, all playing nicely together.....

    Steve, yeah, I'll work on that. I have several that I need to clean and shoot some pics of, that I think ya'll will enjoy! Just continuously busy at the shop, and pics take time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    Nuovo Record is actually quite affordable largely due to the fact that it was made for such a long time and prices for vintage stuff are a bit weak right now. Front mechs are easily had at $15 to $30 Rears for $40 to $50. But by far the least expensive way to get the kit you want is to buy a parts donor bike. Look for brands like Basso that were plentiful but not too collectible now. I did this when I built the '69 Cinelli, found a bike with all original date code matching parts for about $500. Which is a fraction of the cost if I had tried to source the parts one at a time.


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    +1 PUCH, Romic and other central or Eastern European bikes are other good ones to find a parts kit.

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    ....And, of course, with the parts donor bike you get to sell the frameset to offset your costs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    ....And, of course, with the parts donor bike you get to sell the frameset to offset your costs...

    Dollars are tight for the Holidays, but last night a Takara Competition with a full Arabesque kit popped up on my local CL for $100...I've always admired the "campyesqueness" of 600 EX, so I grabbed it to build up the Ted until I can afford a nicer setup. Just need to relace the hubs to 700c rims and I'm good to go.


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    Sweet! Very cool that he remembered it and it has a solid pedigree to boot.
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    Pics or it didn't happen!

    I always liked that stuff too
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    Early Christmas present to myself, Torelli Super Strada:

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    NIce.. I like Torelli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Pics or it didn't happen!

    I always liked that stuff too


    Haha...here ya go Craig:


    TAKARA COMPETITION Road Bike- 12 speed


    Wish it had 700c's on it, but I think I have a set of 36 hole 700c rims hanging in the rafters somewhere to swap 'em out.



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    Digging those Wojciks! Nice bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Haha...here ya go Craig:
    Great shape, nice pick up, bet the stuff looks a lot better on a more pedigreed frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    NIce.. I like Torelli.
    +1 , what year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley View Post
    +1 , what year?
    Wish I knew, took lock-nuts off the campy hubs but no date codes. Limited info on older Torellis but my best guess is mid 80's based on components and overall presentation. If anyone has additional info I would appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    Wish I knew, took lock-nuts off the campy hubs but no date codes. Limited info on older Torellis but my best guess is mid 80's based on components and overall presentation. If anyone has additional info I would appreciate it!
    rear hub width? 130 or 125mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    rear hub width? 130 or 125mm?
    Actually 120mm. Nuovo Tipo hubs, 990 Derailleurs and Super Record shifters. Can't find date codes or serial numbers on anything. Also has Ofmega Competizione cranks: AKA the poorman's Super Record, haha!

    Edit: Just found some info that puts the 990 components in the 1980-85 range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    Actually 120mm. Nuovo Tipo hubs, 990 Derailleurs and Super Record shifters. Can't find date codes or serial numbers on anything. Also has Ofmega Competizione cranks: AKA the poorman's Super Record, haha!

    Edit: Just found some info that puts the 990 components in the 1980-85 range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    5 speed?
    6 speed. I actually swapped out the 6 speed Regina freewheel with a 7 speed Sante to improve shifting.

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    Man there are some nice vintage steel in this thread. While mine isn't exactly road bike specific, it has Shimano 600 on it and it beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAGASAN View Post
    Man there are some nice vintage steel in this thread. While mine isn't exactly road bike specific, it has Shimano 600 on it and it beautiful.

    1982 Suteki (sold by sears) Mixte.

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    1974 Schwinn Paramount, Coppertone

    Another look inside the bike garage

    I am very sentimental about the Schwinn Paramount, it is the quintessential American racing bicycle going back to the early 20th century. It is not well known, outside of VRC that is, but bike racing, in particular the brutal 6-day races, were bigger than baseball in the 1890s and 1900s. New York's Madison Square Garden was so named because of the madison races and Schwinn was there.

    This bike frame is the culmination of years of development by the elite Schwinn lightweight team that made the Paramount at the Chicago factory from about 1959 until production was moved to Waterford in the early 1980s. By 1974 the Paramount was a sleek modern machine with a touch of the old world in the chromed Nervex lugs. The Paramount, like the Raleigh Professional, was the choice of amateur and professional racers alike and as a result Schwinn sold thousands of them. All Chicago Paramounts are collectible but this one is special because it is painted the rare and desired coppertone. The color was not popular at the time but since then it has taken on a cult like following. A Sting-Ray in coppertone will fetch hundreds of dollars more than a similar bike with a common paint. And the paint on this Paramount is almost flawless and absolutely original. The decals are another matter as the original owner chose not to have the Schwinn name on the down tube but just the Paramount. Still this is how the bike came to me and so it will stay. A sad story, the largest flaw to this bike was made by me! After I built it up (yes it is complete now) I took it out for a spin but did not affix the rear wheel properly and made a huge burn on the inside of the chain stay. I hate that.

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    Rarest of the Rare

    Name the frame builder,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    Name the frame builder
    Total hip shot, Eisentraut?
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    Nope, but a respectable guess.

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    I can't really see the details but Ritchey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    Another look inside the bike garage

    I am very sentimental about the Schwinn Paramount, it is the quintessential American racing bicycle going back to the early 20th century. It is not well known, outside of VRC that is, but bike racing, in particular the brutal 6-day races, were bigger than baseball in the 1890s and 1900s. New York's Madison Square Garden was so named because of the madison races and Schwinn was there.

    This bike frame is the culmination of years of development by the elite Schwinn lightweight team that made the Paramount at the Chicago factory from about 1959 until production was moved to Waterford in the early 1980s. By 1974 the Paramount was a sleek modern machine with a touch of the old world in the chromed Nervex lugs. The Paramount, like the Raleigh Professional, was the choice of amateur and professional racers alike and as a result Schwinn sold thousands of them. All Chicago Paramounts are collectible but this one is special because it is painted the rare and desired coppertone. The color was not popular at the time but since then it has taken on a cult like following. A Sting-Ray in coppertone will fetch hundreds of dollars more than a similar bike with a common paint. And the paint on this Paramount is almost flawless and absolutely original. The decals are another matter as the original owner chose not to have the Schwinn name on the down tube but just the Paramount. Still this is how the bike came to me and so it will stay. A sad story, the largest flaw to this bike was made by me! After I built it up (yes it is complete now) I took it out for a spin but did not affix the rear wheel properly and made a huge burn on the inside of the chain stay. I hate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    Name the frame builder,

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    Rumpfy?
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    Ritchey would be too obvious for DoubleC but from a distance it has the same attributes as mine. Thats why I am sticking to PJ. Plus, he says it's rare. One thing for sure, it is too big for him.
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    Yes, Peter Johnson with characteristic track style fork.

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    Do I win the bike?
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    Nice Find!
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    Win the Keyesville Stage Race.

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    I would have to convince all the other vintage racers to bring newer bikes. Then, maybe.
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    What's the underside of the shell look like?

    And what size is it..
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    Too big for you H. My size
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    A couple of my favorites from the East







    And newest project, early Serotta #577

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel29er View Post
    A couple of my favorites from the East







    And newest project, early Serotta #577

    That's killer bikes!

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    3Rensho

    The Dura-Ace AX looks great on the 3Rensho. Here is mine with less spectacular 600 ex
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    Very nice Lewis!

    Thanks Nowhere man!
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    How would I go about identifying a frameset? The lugs look extremely common, I've seen identical looking lugs on multiple makes online. The head tube has holes for a badge, no indicators on dropouts anywhere. Nearly every part on the bike was Suntour, but the bike is completely decal free and I don't believe in it's original paint. So it could have been rebuilt.
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    ^ Kick stand, stem shifters, safety brakes, big steel pie plate behind the cassette... I'm going to go out on a limb and say it is a generic 10sp bike from the bike boom of 70s and 80s in department stores under a thousand and one different brand names.

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    NOTHING WORKS LIKE CLOCKWORK

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    How are the 70's Motobecanes that were made in France regarded for quality? Department store bike, or something better? In particular reference to the Super Mirage.

    Thanks!

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    Super Mitage is a middle of the line offering, but the Grand Record, and the Le Champion were fine bicycles.

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    1960 Schwinnn Paramount

    Oh gawd, another bike!

    This came from the local Craigslist and was too good of a deal to pass. Vintage 1960 all chrome Schwinn Paramount P-12 with a mix of Campagnolo Gran Sport and French parts. The bike shows some signs of neglect but is still in remarkable condition and appears to be mostly original.

    Aside from the Campagnolo derailleurs it is an unusual build for an early Paramount with Stronglight cranks, Mafac brakes, Philippe stem and bars. Also very unusual for a early paramount to be all chrome.

    Serial number is E 63, so built sometime in the fall of 1960.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    Oh gawd, another bike!

    This came from the local Craigslist and was too good of a deal to pass. Vintage 1960 all chrome Schwinn Paramount P-12 with a mix of Campagnolo Gran Sport and French parts. The bike shows some signs of neglect but is still in remarkable condition and appears to be mostly original.

    Aside from the Campagnolo derailleurs it is an unusual build for an early Paramount with Stronglight cranks, Mafac brakes, Philippe stem and bars. Also very unusual for a early paramount to be all chrome.

    Serial number is E 63, so built sometime in the fall of 1960.
    i have seen an early track paramount w/ a curved seat tube, all chromed.
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    Just saw the 3Ren and Zunow up thread---wonderful bikes! Those are just about perfect. I've always wanted a Zunow and have for several years regretted selling my last 3Rensho. Thanks for sharing!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Holdsworth Mistral Dirt-Stache project. Still trying to decide which bar tape to use.

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    ^ That is beyond cool! If that was my bike I'd... tape the bars and ride it lots.

    Bar tape, I'd go with a leather Brooks to match the saddle. Or if you're not convinced then the cheaper option would be the faux leather looking Fizik microtex.

    What tyres are those? Clearance good or a bit close?

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    Coincidence that this thread got a bump and I just finished the Wojick build tonight.

    Can't post pics yet though, because I didn't know you need two rolls of cloth bar tape to finish a set of road bars, ugh.


    I am going to ride it tomorrow though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Grumpy View Post
    ^ That is beyond cool! If that was my bike I'd... tape the bars and ride it lots.

    Bar tape, I'd go with a leather Brooks to match the saddle. Or if you're not convinced then the cheaper option would be the faux leather looking Fizik microtex.

    What tyres are those? Clearance good or a bit close?

    Grumps
    Thanks, it's really fun and comfortable to ride. I was thinking the Brooks tape too, but 60 dollars

    I decided to go with option two, some Fizik tape someone gave me, it'll work until I can get something better.

    Clearance? Could easily fit 700x38 with fenders!

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    Holdsworth Mistral Dirt-Stache project. Still trying to decide which bar tape to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    Thanks, it's really fun and comfortable to ride. I was thinking the Brooks tape too, but 60 dollars

    I decided to go with option two, some Fizik tape someone gave me, it'll work until I can get something better.

    Clearance? Could easily fit 700x38 with fenders!
    I have a deep connection to this.. i remember bikes from my childhood sporting fat road tires and bars similar to moustaches. They were fast, bad and sexy. awesome build and i like your bontrager too.
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

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    Took the Ted out for a shakedown/fit ride around the neighborhood, and couldn't resist a pic:








    Still needs some adjustments, but man, it felt nice.



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    Looks great!

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    Right on ECS. Looks good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    I have a deep connection to this.. i remember bikes from my childhood sporting fat road tires and bars similar to moustaches. They were fast, bad and sexy. awesome build and i like your bontrager too.
    I'm glad to hear you like it. I actually began the build with spare parts and no expectations but the first ride reminded me why I like bikes.

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    For me, the answer is always Black Cinelli cork ribbon.

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    Incoming. Not rare or special, but certainly 1991 era neon awesomeness. Hopefully it's still glued together, but if it isn't I'm not out much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    I'm glad to hear you like it. I actually began the build with spare parts and no expectations but the first ride reminded me why I like bikes.

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    Pretty bike. Love the laid back angles and the bigger tires.

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    Looks like I did alright on this one. I'm not sure how you tell if the bonds are shot, but no visual evidence of it (gaps look tight), and it doesn't do anything weird in terms of noises or behavior under power, so I guess it's ok. I'm guessing if the seat tube-BB lug was loose it would be pretty obvious.

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    Replaced the gel seat with the Turbo, popped on my SPDs and there she sits. The 36cm c-c bars will have to go (they are Specialized, so were changed at some point), as was the stem (catalog shows a black stem). I'm $200 in at this point.
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    Digging the old bikes in here! Anyway, I just picked up this frame for free! Trying to make it into a commuter. Picking it up from the shop at lunch today. All I had to replace was tires, tubes, bar tape and seat. Had them go through the BB, hubs, wheels, brakes, etc as well. Haven't had a road bike in 22 years!

    It appears to be a 1977 Schwinn "Approved" Le Tour II. Guessing it was originally red.

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    Looks like a fine start to a commuter bike. I would bin the stem shifters and brake lever extensions just because I don't like the way they look. You can also save some weight with a wheel upgrade and a cheap aluminum post to replace the steel one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    Looks like a fine start to a commuter bike. I would bin the stem shifters and brake lever extensions just because I don't like the way they look. You can also save some weight with a wheel upgrade and a cheap aluminum post to replace the steel one.
    Yeah, I gotta make sure it fits first. It may be a hair small but we did measurements and I sorta sat on it (didn't have tires on, so didn't wanna really sit on bare wheels).

    Once I determine I'm keeping it, I may do a few upgrades over time (and hold onto the original parts).

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    1985 Mongoose Mangusta

    Hello everyone I bought this bike a few months ago,it's my first road bike and from what I researched not to many around.It was made by Motobecane with lightweight Columbus tubing, and sold by Mongoose Bikes as the “Mangusta”
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    1976 Strawberry Racing Cycle

    Andy Newland's company Strawberry Racing Cycles were Handbuilt Italian style frames started in 1971 in a small shop out of Portland Oregon,the racing frames were done by Mark DiNucci a well known local racer himself, SRC used mostly Prugnet lugs and Reynolds tubing this build includes Campy hubs on tubular Faimme wheels,Campagnolo Nuovo Record Components /Cinelli bar & stem/Avocet saddle and post.
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    here is my 1988 Trek 400 with and without panniers
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    You take that on Helltrack? You are Rad, Crew!
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    1998 Chris Chance

    Here's a crappy cell phone pic of my '98 Chris Chance at the Adirondak Loj.

    This is an awesome upgrade from my 1984 Cannondale (aka bone shaker).

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    1970/71 Raleigh Pro

    I just inherited this beautiful classic road bike from my Uncle. The paint matches the 1970 catalog, according to Sheldon Brown's site the serial number is from 1971. There are a few knicks in the paint on the top tube and slight surface rust on the of the components. Other than that, it is in really nice shape and rides great.

    One unique thing is the lacing on the rear wheel. My uncle is a retired engineer, he kept breaking spokes and the chain so he and one of his partners made several computer models of the best lacing pattern for his weight and strength. After rebuilding the rear wheel, his problems were solved.

    I am going to start with a basic tune up and new grip tape. We will see what all it needs from here. I have not spent much time on a road bike, but you cannot beat this one.

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    1988 Cannondale Criterium

    I imagine it is difficult to call a Cannondale a vintage road bike. In 1990 I built up a 1988 Cannondale Criterium frame that was being blown out by a bike shop due to the Klein lawsuit. It cost $100 with the CroMo fork. With he kids I gained a little weight and started riding my '86 SR400 and this one hung from the rafters for 20 years until a few weeks ago.

    When I built it back then I picked up the non-aero Dura Ace brake set cheap because no one wanted non-aero. Same with the toe-clip pedals. Same with the Simplex retrofriction shifters. I found a shop selling the Dura Ace crank cheap. A shop was selling the Brooks Team Pro on sale and I bought Superbe Pro hubs and MA-40 rims and built them with DB spokes.

    I cleaned everything up and re-packed all of the bearings. In addition to new cables, housings, and tape, I swapped out the original 7400 6 speed deraileurs for some 8 speed I already had, added Bullseye piulleys that had been sitting for years, swapped out the 3ttt 36cm bars for Cinelli 64-40cm and threw on a SunRace 13-28 freewheel (I have the original 7 spd DA freewheel). I replaced the original 52/42 with a 48/39... soon to be 38.

    Almost 25 years after it originally hit the road I took it back out this morning. The crit geometry still dives into turn, it climbs like it always did and despite what people say about them, I don't find the ride that harsh.

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    Beautiful Ellison!!! He did great work out of a small shop in Houston, too bad he's no longer building frames. He used 6061 aluminum and a pizza oven for the heat treating.

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    93' Dean 650C and Vitus.....As U can see the Vitus got trashed by a 3/4 ton van....
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    This is not the best picture as the light was getting pretty low when I took it. In the front is an old frame with new(ish) components and in the back is an old frame with old components. Both frames are from about 1975.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    This is not the best picture as the light was getting pretty low when I took it. In the front is an old frame with new(ish) components and in the back is an old frame with old components. Both frames are from about 1975.
    What can I say but WOW! I would love to see more of the GC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    What can I say but WOW! I would love to see more of the GC...
    I really should take some better pics, but...

    The frame is the Italian version made by Alberto sometime in '74 or later. There's no date stamp on the frame or fork, but the details match up to the frames that he made after the Masi California split.

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    The famed Masi twin-plane crown.

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    The dropouts were milled to save weight - there are easily 8-10 grams saved right there.

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    And the chain rings received the same "M" cut-out that the BB has.

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    Stunning,

    This has been on my short list for awhile (particularly the '74 double plate.) Every time one comes up I am deep in some other project, and then I think I have too many Italian bikes. Anyway thanks for sharing.

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    The Miyata is for business and the Wizard is for fun. Mike Howard and Brian Bayliss built the Wizard frame for my dad around 1974. It's built with a combination of Campagnolo, Suntour, and Shimano (the front derailleur is an 80's vintage 105). Apparently Dad was looking for whatever parts he could get for a deal at the time. I'm not going to change a thing, it rides like a cadillac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    The Miyata is for business and the Wizard is for fun. Mike Howard and Brian Bayliss built the Wizard frame for my dad around 1974. It's built with a combination of Campagnolo, Suntour, and Shimano. Apparently Dad was looking for whatever parts he could get for a deal at the time.

    Wow Wizards are uber rare.....

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    They have a fun history given all the shenanigans that went on with the Masi alumni. In Baylis' own words,

    "At this stage of my apprenticeship, I was finally moved to
    the paint department [at Masi Carlsbad], where I was the assistant to Ron Smith
    (no relation to Roger). This is where I learned the paint sequence
    and techniques I still use today. I also was able to learn the art
    of applying varnish decals to the painted frames. I hand painted
    yellow trim in the cutouts as well.

    My time at Masi came to an end. One of my roommates
    and fellow workers at Masi, Mike Howard, who was being
    groomed as a brazer there and myself, decided to strike out
    on our own. Jumping ship was something they tried to prevent.
    But Mike had become frustrated with Mario, as they were
    trying to build forks with "twin plate" fork crowns. Mario
    was difficult to work with. The previous brazing trainee had
    left, having a difficult time with Mario over similar issues.

    Mike and I quit and we moved back to Orange County,
    and began to build the notorious Wizard Bicycles. During
    that two year period we both learned a lot about the craft
    and a little, very little, about the business of framebuilding.
    We built about 75 serial numbered frames. We built a few
    for ourselves as well. There were probably about 80
    frames or so total.

    At Wizard, we put a lot of time into each frame, which made
    them highly regarded. We weren't making much money though.
    In mid-1976, we received a call Masi in Carlsbad. They had
    fired all of the crew and only the shop manager, Gian Simonetti,
    remained. They wanted Mike and I to come back to Masi as
    foremen, and assemble a new crew. By then the newfangled
    "investment cast" lugs were being used. I became the painting
    foreman, head painter, and the person who trained the guys to
    shape and file lugs, as I did the painting of the Wizards and did
    all the lugwork. Mike was the brazing foreman, since he did the
    fixturing and brazing of the Wizards."
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    Of course Howard went on to build Medici bikes and Baylis covered his frames in gold leaf. Mike got in some trouble, but I actually talked to him through email a few years ago when I was cleaning this bike up and he was starting work on a batch of 35th anniversary Wizard frames with Baylis' help. Unfortunately I can't find any info on whether the frames were completed or not.

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    Any close ups of the Wizard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    Of course Howard went on to build Medici bikes and Baylis covered his frames in gold leaf. Mike got in some trouble, but I actually talked to him through email a few years ago when I was cleaning this bike up and he was starting work on a batch of 35th anniversary Wizard frames with Baylis' help. Unfortunately I can't find any info on whether the frames were completed or not.
    I attend the monthly vintage ride at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena and Mike Howard is a regular participant. I believe a couple of years ago I saw an unpainted Wizard at one of the gatherings but can't remember the details, it may have been a re-issue. Last year Mike was able to acquire, with the help of the CR list, an original Wizard that he brings out to the vintage ride on occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Any close ups of the Wizard?
    Lots of paint damage, but here you go. I love the lug work and paint. Funny that Baylis said they weren't making a lot of money off the bikes because my dad told me he picked Wizard because they were local, had the Masi reputation, and were really reasonably priced.












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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    I attend the monthly vintage ride at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena and Mike Howard is a regular participant. I believe a couple of years ago I saw an unpainted Wizard at one of the gatherings but can't remember the details, it may have been a re-issue. Last year Mike was able to acquire, with the help of the CR list, an original Wizard that he brings out to the vintage ride on occasion.
    I'm really happy to hear he's still riding. He was really helpful in answering all the questions I had about the bike. Really nice guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    Lots of paint damage, but here you go. I love the lug work and paint. Funny that Baylis said they weren't making a lot of money off the bikes because my dad told me he picked Wizard because they were local, had the Masi reputation, and were really reasonably priced.
    Nice looking bike! The lug work is very Masi-esque. I like it.
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    I'm not sure how vintage this is, or who made it, but it was way too pretty to pass up....









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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    I'm not sure how vintage this is, or who made it, but it was way too pretty to pass up....
    Neat looking fork, but I don't recognize it. Is the steerer tube 1-1/8"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Neat looking fork, but I don't recognize it. Is the steerer tube 1-1/8"?

    Yes, and threadless.


    I posted on Bike Forums too, hoping for an ID.




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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Yes, and threadless.
    That would mean that it was produced after 2000. Hope you're able to identify it.
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    What kind of ends does it have?

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    Thanks laffeaux...fingers crossed, but I know it's not going to be easy.






    Quote Originally Posted by lewisfoto View Post
    What kind of ends does it have?

    I couldn't see any writing on the dropouts, but I'll check tonight with a magnifying glass.

    No marks on the steerer, but someone wrote "souldoubt" with a marker at some point.



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    Here is my 1985 Guerciotti GLX8700. A mix of old and new components. Love this bike. It handles great and is comfortable enough to ride a double century on.
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    Maybe SoulCraft? Their stock fork is tigged but similar. Is it drilled for brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Maybe SoulCraft? Their stock fork is tigged but similar. Is it drilled for brakes?
    Thanks Jeff, that looks like a solid lead.

    My fork is undrilled.

    I sent Soulcraft a message...waiting for a reply.


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    Pro Strada

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    Something I picked up from the original owner several months ago.

    I am thinking a 1982 or 3 model. Has full campy, sew ups etc.
    Forks are for eating, Lefty's are for racing,

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    Nice! That matching pump is an awesome touch.

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    Interesting that it was converted to a flat bar but the sew ups were retained.

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    1963 Paramount P 14 Track

    Paramount track model redone by Brian Bayliss, with lug thinning re-chrome and repaint. It is mostly period correct with the exception of the chain tires, chainring and spokes. The decals are the later 60s 70s version, maybe because the correct "Disneyland" style were unavailavle I have had it for three years and the restoration was done by a previous owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    Yowza
    Yeah thanks, I will be showing this and three other road bikes at the StubHub center during the LA Grand Prix track race this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
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    What he said.

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    Looks nice, how about a better side pic

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    Looks nice, how about a better side pic
    Crappy iPhone pics, here is another. I replaced front tire with another tan side wall


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    Randonneur bars fenders and foam grips. you ues this for touring?

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    He just picked it up. It was in the pac Northwest, so I am sure the fenders had some use (tho it doesn't look like much--what a beaut!).
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
    And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD5h3y0a9AU

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    1972 Olympia

    Campagnolo Equipped-Nisi Wheels with Tipo Hubs--3ttt stems & bars--Universal Super68 brakes
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    Wow that is amazingly clean looks unused.

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    Hi, Grove road

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    That grove is niiiiiiiice. Dura Ace bits?

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    Hi, Grove road

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    Have a excellent Zunow Ti Roadbike with complete Dura Ace group. Very very rar Bicycle frame build in Japan.

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    Wow, never seen a Ti Zunow before. That is a cool ride.

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    Be careful, they used low grade Russian titanium on this bikes.

    No, just kidding. That IS a rare bird.

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    Have a excellent Zunow Ti Roadbike with complete Dura Ace group. Very very rar Bicycle frame build in Japan.

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    Here's my Winter project.

    Almost complete. This is a bike that I have lusted for many years. Good ol' ebay.Vintage road bike thread!!-20150117_214433.jpgVintage road bike thread!!-20150117_214457.jpg

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    Ooooohhh... one of my unicorns.
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

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    Chorus 10 silver crankset. NIce.
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

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    A few detail shots from my latest road bike rebuild....


    This one has an MTB tie in too.


























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    Hanging some parts.....

























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    That c-dale is gorgeous. What group is that?

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    Here's my latest find- 96/97 NOS ControlTech road frame. Only 2 or 3 ever made from this tube set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    Only 2 or 3 ever made from this tube set.
    Oof

    I can see why.
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    Welds on this frame aren't anywhere as nice as the MTB frames but it's still nice.

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    Looks like someone restickered a Visp.

    Get yourself a CT BMX and you'll have a CT for all reasons, all seasons.

    Control Tech - BMXmuseum.com

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    Thanks for the Visp info Grumps. There are some similarities but I don't believe it is a Visp. According to Wick, it was made after a production run of frames with left over tubing.
    I just don't have it in me to buy a BMX bike. I see no appeal to them at all. If I was still 12, I might be more inclined to buy one.

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    I passionately remove rocks and corners and other stuff I find too hard to ride.

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    Would have been done the build today, but the front derailleur clamp gave up the ghost while I was snugging it down...argh.


    Best I can do til I pick up another 7400 FD:









    and the reason I wanted this one in the first place:







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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    That c-dale is gorgeous. What group is that?
    Thanks! It a 1986 SR 600.

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    Steelman does great work.
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    Finished....(better pic when the weather outside isn't crummy).










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    My '83 Trek 620 with a 650B conversion:



    It's a rider, not a collector's piece. And it rides very nicely!
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    Early 80's JPW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel29er View Post
    Early 80's JPW
    That is one sweet bike. Thanks for posting.

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    Waiting for this one to arrive:










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    10 pitch?!

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    I feel very guilty that it took me a month to get the Steelman/Destato out for a shakedown ride....(weather/work/kids/etc really aren't a good excuse)





    It rode beautifully, sharp and smooth.

    Just need a couple little adjustments (derailleurs and seat angle), other than that it felt perfect. I am very glad to have this one in the stable...it's a keeper for sure.











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    Nice 912! I haven't seen one with Suntour before.

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    T-Town trip today to finally ride this one:





















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    Nice, looks like pure speed.

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    The Steelman is so sweet. Are you sre about that short stem? Congrats.. lovely bike.

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    Otoh.. what's up w/ that climbing gearing?

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    "The Zephyr" My Japanese/Italian Frankenbike daily driver that I built last spring. Based on a 1973 Fuji Finest that the previous/original owner had paintstripped in the 80's (was chromed at the factory prior to paint).

    Other highlights: Universal Super 68 brakes, Campy Record high flange hubs, Shimano Arabesque derailleurs.

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    Still not sold on the moustache bars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    Otoh.. what's up w/ that climbing gearing?
    Ha, yeah it looks a lot lower than the 47:16 it actually is. The Dura Ace 10 pitch group does make it look small. I picked up a 49t and a 52t so I can play around with the gearing (ridiculously expensive by they way, lol)



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    1983 Dave Moulton

    Model : "Special Professional Road" with Reynolds tubing also equipped with Campagnolo, Cinelli and Brooks saddle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wacowacko View Post
    Model : "Special Professional Road" with Reynolds tubing also equipped with Campagnolo, Cinelli and Brooks saddle.
    Nice Moulton!! I like seeing his non-Fuso frames.
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    Picked up from original owner,been inside since 1990, 60cm frame , all Shimano 600,original Avocet seat to be installed soon
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    Awesome bike!

    Just your size.

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    Awesome bike!

    Just your size.[/QUOTE]

    My size,but passed on to my older brother Tom today,who worked at PA Bikes in the late 70's(LeMond era) for my next 50 yrs Xmas present...
    Threw in the Factory Pilots for accuracy in outfit needs..
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    My 1955 Jack Taylor Super Tourist

    Pretty rare to find one in chrome. The Taylor's didn't like to use it thinking it'd rust faster. Maybe so, but this one is rust free. I love this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssulljm View Post
    Awesome bike!

    Just your size.
    My size,but passed on to my older brother Tom today,who worked at PA Bikes in the late 70's(LeMond era) for my next 50 yrs Xmas present...
    Threw in the Factory Pilots for accuracy in outfit needs..[/QUOTE]

    That's looking like one happy brother!

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    1987 'Dave Moulton" Fuso

    Columbus tubing along with a bunch of "hodge podge' hill killer parts !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wacowacko View Post
    Columbus tubing along with a bunch of "hodge podge' hill killer parts !
    Love it. I would go w/ down tube shifters on this one. It's a race bike.

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    Got this frame from a BMX buddy who picked it up in a thrift shop (complete with a Shimano 600 Tri-Color group..except for a cheap replacement rear wheel)
    Was bummed to see it has evidence of a front end collision, but it should still ride fine (but maybe steer a bit quicker than original)








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    So my "winter project" pretty much wrapped up...

    I found this mostly complete Merckx bike on eBay last fall. In the auction pics the frame was really dirty and the parts looked pretty filthy as well. I took a chance and thought the paint would clean up nicely as there weren't a lot of chips. When the bike arrived it looked like it has spent much of the past 30 years sitting in a shed collecting dust.

    The paint came back to life after cleaning it with Simple Green and then coating it with Turtle Wax. There are a few rough spots, but most of it looks good. The components were all oxidized (aluminum surfaces) and I spent a lot of time using steel wool to clean up each component to make it look presentable.

    I had to buy a few things to get it running again: a new saddle, tires, cables/housing, bar tape, cog set, and rear deraileur. To make the bike a little more "hill friendly" I opt to go with a SunTour Cyclone GT derailleur and a 12-32 freewheel - this combined with the 52/42 chain rings should work out alright.

    The frame is from '85 or '86 and was Merckx's first attempt at re-creating his own version of the bikes that he raced for Team Molteni in the 1970s. The original team frames were made by De Rosa, Colnago, Kessels, and Pela. Several builders had offered Molteni frames with Eddy's name on them - most notably Falcon who had produce a full-line of Molteni-orange frames from gas-pipe tubes all the way to Reynolds 531. Prior to opening his own frame business in 1980, Eddy ended all of the contracts with other builders that produced frames with his name on them. After 1980 Eddy controlled the bikes that would bear his name.

    In about 1984 Merckx released three "Team Issue" frames: one painted in Team Faema colors, one in Team Molteni colors, and one in Team Fiat colors. These were the teams that Eddy raced for during his career (he also raced for Peugeot, but he did not offer a Peugeot frame). The frame was the same as the "Professional" model, but the Team Issue frames came with a flat crown fork (earlier Professional models had some with the same fork) instead of the newer more "aero" work that was used at the time.

    Anyway... here's my mid '80s Eddy Merckx Professional in Team Molteni paint.

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    Beautiful bike and nice history lesson laffeaux! Sometimes (for me anyway), doing the research and gathering the information is half the fun of refurbishing the bike.

    Did you get the matching jersey yet?

    That's going to be fun for you once the weather gets better up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    So my "winter project" pretty much wrapped up...

    I found this mostly complete Merckx bike on eBay last fall. In the auction pics the frame was really dirty and the parts looked pretty filthy as well. I took a chance and thought the paint would clean up nicely as there weren't a lot of chips. When the bike arrived it looked like it has spent much of the past 30 years sitting in a shed collecting dust.

    The paint came back to life after cleaning it with Simple Green and then coating it with Turtle Wax. There are a few rough spots, but most of it looks good. The components were all oxidized (aluminum surfaces) and I spent a lot of time using steel wool to clean up each component to make it look presentable.

    I had to buy a few things to get it running again: a new saddle, tires, cables/housing, bar tape, cog set, and rear deraileur. To make the bike a little more "hill friendly" I opt to go with a SunTour Cyclone GT derailleur and a 12-32 freewheel - this combined with the 52/42 chain rings should work out alright.

    The frame is from '85 or '86 and was Merckx's first attempt at re-creating his own version of the bikes that he raced for Team Molteni in the 1970s. The original team frames were made by De Rosa, Colnago, Kessels, and Pela. Several builders had offered Molteni frames with Eddy's name on them - most notably Falcon who had produce a full-line of Molteni-orange frames from gas-pipe tubes all the way to Reynolds 531. Prior to opening his own frame business in 1980, Eddy ended all of the contracts with other builders that produced frames with his name on them. After 1980 Eddy controlled the bikes that would bear his name.

    In about 1984 Merckx released three "Team Issue" frames: one painted in Team Faema colors, one in Team Molteni colors, and one in Team Fiat colors. These were the teams that Eddy raced for during his career (he also raced for Peugeot, but he did not offer a Peugeot frame). The frame was the same as the "Professional" model, but the Team Issue frames came with a flat crown fork (earlier Professional models had some with the same fork) instead of the newer more "aero" work that was used at the time.

    Anyway... here's my mid '80s Eddy Merckx Professional in Team Molteni paint.

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    Awesome restoration.

    That's a great looking Merckx...love the Team Molteni paint.

    Before pic?



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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Before pic?
    Here's a couple of "before" pics form the auction. The pic of the headset shows the "gunk" that was covering many of components and parts of the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Did you get the matching jersey yet?
    I had the matching jersey long before I had the bike.
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    Looks so much better...well done.

    Gumwalls and non-aero cable routing



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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryBlumpkin View Post
    "The Zephyr" My Japanese/Italian Frankenbike daily driver that I built last spring. Based on a 1973 Fuji Finest that the previous/original owner had paintstripped in the 80's (was chromed at the factory prior to paint).

    Other highlights: Universal Super 68 brakes, Campy Record high flange hubs, Shimano Arabesque derailleurs.

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    Still not sold on the moustache bars...
    I had one of those back in the mid 70s. The paint didn't stick to the chrome very well so it went to all chrome pretty soon. It also came with 47/51 chain rings and a 14/21 cassette. Maybe that's why my knees are bad now.
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    RIP Brian Baylis. His signature is on my bike. He was really nice and helpful when I emailed him with questions about Wizard bikes about a decade ago. Brian Baylis, Main

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    Well that sucks. 2016 continues to rob us of the good ones.....

    Had a few of his pass through the shop, beautiful work, one and all.

    RIP.
    Cannondale Lefty and HeadShock servicing, wheel building, etc...


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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    RIP Brian Baylis. His signature is on my bike. He was really nice and helpful when I emailed him with questions about Wizard bikes about a decade ago. Brian Baylis, Main


    Sad, another early builder with knowledge of our sport silenced.

    We exchanged emails on Tesch bicycle history and Leo's whereabouts a while back, he was a pleasure to connect with.



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    72 Schwinn super sport in opaque green. All original


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    Picked up this super rare GLEISS race frame set today.

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    He is a famous german frame builder, who was also responsible for this beast of a MTB, the GLEISS Monobox (unfortunately not mine, but one of the most desireable bikes i know).

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    That roadie has some pretty cool little details, nice pick up!
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    I like the roadie a lot but head tube could longer by 1/2 in.. (in Pegoretti manner.. leaving the same seat tube c-c.)
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    78 Raleigh supercourse. First road bike so I'm learning. Great condition, and everything's stock except the seat (previous owner junked it for a super cushion schwinn seat from wallyworld, WTF replacing a brooks with Schwinn?), bar tape, pedals and tires. Currently, I only have 1 mm between the tire and the front derailure when I use 700x28 tires. I can fix it by moving the derailure back, but with the design of the horizontal (or somewhat horizontal) dropouts and the derailure hanger, it can't go back any more. I've already ground down one side of the hanger's backplate mounting bolt, but that only gave me about 1mm. 2mm is better than nothing, but if the tire shifts the tiniest bit in the non-drive dropout, I'm rubbing. I'd love to get the wheel all the way back in both dropouts and mount the hanger with some sort of clip from the back of the dropouts, or not even attach the hanger other than sandwiching it between the dropout and the QR nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    Any suggestions?
    Can you post a picture of the rear dropouts and derailleur? Normally there's no issue running the axle all the way back in the drops, and 28mm tires usually fit in a frame from '78. It would be interesting to see what's going on to prevent it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    Currently, I only have 1 mm between the tire and the front derailure when I use 700x28 tires.

    Any suggestions?
    Yeah, harden up and stop using the inner chainring.

    Okay, seriously now. Can you go with a wider BB axle to space the cranks out a bit more, and then the derailleur won't need to swing in so far to clear the inner ring. That's assuming that you have already adjusted the inner limit to the closest to the chain when in the lowest gear.

    And don't go too wide with the BB as it will throw the chainline out, but you may be able to gain a few mm.

    Might help. Good luck with the project!

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    I've thought about removing the FD and going 1x on it, but I didn't want to limit my gearing that bad, at least not yet. The section that the tire hits on the FD is the spring. It's a funky 70's design that puts all of the swing arm stuff behind the seat tube instead of to the side. Unfortunately, changing the axle, chainline, or offset won't do anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Can you post a picture of the rear dropouts and derailleur? Normally there's no issue running the axle all the way back in the drops, and 28mm tires usually fit in a frame from '78. It would be interesting to see what's going on to prevent it.
    It looks like the hub axle was spaced so the threaded section rested against the derailure hanger instead of fitting in the area behind the derailure hanger. I don't think it can do that though because the QR nut would rub against the bolt that holds the hanger to the backing plate/bolt.
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    I don't know my Raleigh history. Is this the stock OEM type hanger, or do you think something changed up over the years? Considering the age, I wouldn't be surprised. I just got it this last fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    I've thought about removing the FD and going 1x on it, but I didn't want to limit my gearing that bad, at least not yet. The section that the tire hits on the FD is the spring. It's a funky 70's design that puts all of the swing arm stuff behind the seat tube instead of to the side. Unfortunately, changing the axle, chainline, or offset won't do anything.
    Ahhh, I'm with you now. So you either run a different front derailleur which would look out of place, or go 1x, or fix it at the back end. Or go with a smaller tyre. The joys of old bikes.

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    Is it the tire to back of the seat tube/derailleur hardware issue or tire to derailleur cage at the side issue?
    Two different Super Course's I have - both with 28's.

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    tire against the back of the FD spring. My spring appears to stick out further off the FD than the one in your picture, but it looks like it's supposed to be that way. Nowhere close to the tire clearance you have though, even with the spring looking different. The height is good for the distance of the FD cage over the largest rings, and the rings are still original (and in amazingly good condition for being so old).

    I'm currently changing over the rear wheel to a newer one so I can use an 11x32 8-speed cassette and 8-speed chain. Not a fan of how it looks compared to the original wheelset (big silver dork disk will always be cool to me), but the extra high speed gearing will be worth it. Might eliminate the need for the FD and granny ring, but like I said, not ready to take that plunge yet. Need to ride it first.

    For reference, they're gatorskins. Don't know if gatorskins have a larger outside diameter than other 700x28's, but these are right up against that FD spring. I think it's a 78', but not 100% sure on that either. Based on the parts spec sheets though, it should be a 78'.
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    Have you considered swapping out the front derailleur? Below is a pic of my bike (not a Raleigh) with high-volume 30mm tires on it. The derailleur is a Campy Nuovo Record and the "guts" of the derailleur are better located to be out of the way. You can find one of these easily on eBay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Have you considered swapping out the front derailleur?
    I've thought about it, but I kind of like the look of the original. Very blocky. Might change my mind after a couple rides with the new wheels. I'll probably start out with the hanger un-bolted from the frame. Only need to align it when clamping down the QR and it should stay in place after that. Might be easier to get the wheel in the dropouts without fighting the chain too. Right now, I have to take the air out of the tire to get the tire/wheel far enough forward for the axles fit into the dropouts.
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    So I ended up with the bent 1974 Paramount I posted above....last thing in the world I needed was another "too big" project frame, but I just couldn't leave it behind....ugh.

    I thought about trying to heat the lugs to remove the tubes, cut them down to my size, and put it back together, but that option is looking pretty optimistic. Repair by Waterford would be more than frame would ever be worth.

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    I've had great, affordable luck with Spectrum Cycles. Sent in a few beat down Stowes for some loving, stays replaced, etc, never more than a couple hundred.

    If that's too much? I'd just play. Tear it apart, clean the lugs and drops up, and use them as paperweights, objects de art, etc...
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    Love it. I would go w/ down tube shifters on this one. It's a race bike.
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    Followup for tire clearance around the FD. I ended up removing the rear derailure hanger from the frame, so I have to reposition it every time I remove the rear QR clamp. Kind of a pain, but not bad once it's setup right. Works fine so far, allows a lot of tire clearance now. I could probably run 35's if I wanted, no problem. Did have to move the brake pads, but that was expected.

    Things I had to do:
    File off the back of the derailure hanger. There were two dots back there that aligned the hanger with the horizontal dropouts. With the new location, they needed to be filed down. If I were to do this again, I'd buy a second hanger for $5 so I didn't have to file down the original 1970's one.

    Use Shimano QR's. At first, I tried this with a cam style QR, and it just didn't hold the wheel tight enough. Once I started pedalling, I'd pull the wheel forward. Swapped the old OEM QR skewer to the new wheel, and it held fine. From what I've seen, the cheap cam QR's don't hold well in any horizontal dropout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
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    I need to post more bike pictures. Here's my latest. My one and only vintage road bike that I currently own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I need to post more bike pictures. Here's my latest. My one and only vintage road bike that I currently own.

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    Otis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
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    Nice.

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