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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Jeff are these going to be out of the original mold or just out of the current EVA mold with amber skinwalls?

    PS don't forget to remind them about the three cases of Force 2.0's you demanded to make the deal
    Current moulds. It is $5-$8K for a new mould so that isn't going to happen

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    Just a quick update. Tires are supposed to ship 10/11 and should be in the shop 3-4 weeks after that.

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    Sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by harzkristall
    sounds great! but make it in soft red! please!
    yes, in red. I have a set on my klunker, they rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    Current moulds. It is $5-$8K for a new mould so that isn't going to happen

    What was the final spec?
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    Looking forward to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    What was the final spec?
    what we ordered

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    Based on that info it's either the Premonition or Evolution mold with light skinwalls.
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    Should be the Z-Max Evolution tire in 26 x 2.1 with a natural tan colored skinwall. Should be arriving soon.

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    Hi,

    thanks for all what you done here for us, what do you think it's the price for a set of these?

    bye Stefan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    What was the final spec?



    What'd you call me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan9113
    Hi,

    thanks for all what you done here for us, what do you think it's the price for a set of these?

    bye Stefan
    Still waiting to get the final costs with shipping. My guess is $39.99 each since they will cost a bit more than our Timbuk IIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefmiguel
    What'd you call me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
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    LOL!!!

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    interested too!
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    Got the call today that the tires have entered the US One step closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    Got the call today that the tires have entered the US One step closer.
    Coming to you directly through customs or through a consolidated can on the West coast?
    Needed: 26.8mm XTR seatpost, blue GT/Grundig Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Coming to you directly through customs or through a consolidated can on the West coast?
    Not sure of the details other than they came through LA. They called today to see what type of off-loading equipment they needed to bring.

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    Is there a price yet?

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    Cool, I want at least one set, could you please take a picture and post it.
    I do not remember if you answer the question on whether the casings are going to match the original tires, or if these came out of the current "classic" mold just with the skin walls.
    Could you clarify.

    Can;t wait to get a set, thanks

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    They are Ritchey Z-Max Evolution Pro 2.1 tires. More details @

    https://mombat.org/MOMBAT/PartsForSalePages/tires.html

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    Yucky branding!!!!

    What is up with the rampant nasty enormous branding on new bikes and parts these days?

    great tires though. I hope I dont sound like a d@ck. These were some of my favorite tires from bitd.

    man I cant get over the logos though.

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    Wow, $18 to ship a pair. Come on Jeff, surely you can do better than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfh126
    Wow, $18 to ship a pair. Come on Jeff, surely you can do better than that?
    shipping stuff sucks and the price keeps going up, tires weigh a lot as well

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    Those look like boxes they were shipped in not bundles so I'm guessing these are folders? Although I would think the label would say "K" if they were. Are they wire or kevlar beads.
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    They pick up and deliver free boxes too!
    https://www.prioritymail.com/flatrat...282&ssno=26968

    Nice tires. Could have done with out the big black ritchey panels.
    For my needs those Timbuk2 are still the choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Those look like boxes they were shipped in not bundles so I'm guessing these are folders? Although I would think the label would say "K" if they were. Are they wire or kevlar beads.
    read the second page
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbercomp
    shipping stuff sucks and the price keeps going up, tires weigh a lot as well

    Nice job editing your original reply. As was already mentioned, USPS Priority boxes are free. If you use your own boxes, you should be able to ship a pair of tires (3 lb. package) via Priority Mail for about $7.50. I'm sure you've got enough profit built into the price of the tires to drop the shipping costs even a little?

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    Shipping cost is the same for 1 pair or 2 pairs. Shipped several sets out today and actual shipping to the west coast was $13.xx for a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Those look like boxes they were shipped in not bundles so I'm guessing these are folders? Although I would think the label would say "K" if they were. Are they wire or kevlar beads.
    Pro=Kevlar. Kinda funny since the Timbuk II tires are also Kevlar beads but they come in big rolls as opposed to folded and in boxes.

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    The Timbuk II's you guys sell are pretty light I think. I wonder how much more the Ritcheys weigh?

    Tires are kinda heavy to ship. Shipping is outta control these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    The Timbuk II's you guys sell are pretty light I think. I wonder how much more the Ritcheys weigh?

    Tires are kinda heavy to ship. Shipping is outta control these days.
    The Timbuk II tires are in the 545g range while the Ritchey tires came in around 475g.

    Just shipped 4 to CA and it was $16.37. Wish there was a cheaper way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfh126
    Nice job editing your original reply. As was already mentioned, USPS Priority boxes are free. If you use your own boxes, you should be able to ship a pair of tires (3 lb. package) via Priority Mail for about $7.50. I'm sure you've got enough profit built into the price of the tires to drop the shipping costs even a little?
    Link to this $7.50 shipping would be great.

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    is the international shipping rate some sort of insured incl. track &trace, as $50 seems steep? Well, maybe not in regards of the domestic shipping rate

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    International shipping is expensive. The notion that it is cheap is a reason I am thinking of ending the international option when I sell things. It used to be a lot cheaper, but in the last couple of years, it has become very spendy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    Link to this $7.50 shipping would be great.
    $12.70 from NC to CA: http://postcalc.usps.gov/MailService...Time=8:00%20AM

    $7.50 from NC to VA: http://postcalc.usps.gov/MailService...Time=8:00%20AM

    Prices are even less if you print the postage online. Are you using First Class or Priority to ship the tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    International shipping is expensive. The notion that it is cheap is a reason I am thinking of ending the international option when I sell things. It used to be a lot cheaper, but in the last couple of years, it has become very spendy.
    International shipping is very expensive and they also lose the occasional package. In the past year, we have had 3 international packages returned and 2 lost. Once that package hits the US border, there is no/minimal tracking. And of course, the buyer goes to PayPal and makes a claim and PayPal will almost always side with the buyer and not the seller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfh126
    $12.70 from NC to CA: http://postcalc.usps.gov/MailService...Time=8:00%20AM

    $7.50 from NC to VA: http://postcalc.usps.gov/MailService...Time=8:00%20AM

    Prices are even less if you print the postage online. Are you using First Class or Priority to ship the tires?
    We ship everything Priority which is a minimum of $10.70. Add in the price of labels, tape, equipment rental (Stamps.com) and the occasional mis-ship and it is break even at best.

    When I set up the tires originally, they only allowed one shipping option via the "Add to Cart" button. I went ahead and added individual buttons for each option with it's own shipping calculator. http://mombat.org/MOMBAT/PartsForSalePages/tires.html

    We also often refund shipping overages once parts are shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    We ship everything Priority which is a minimum of $10.70. Add in the price of labels, tape, equipment rental (Stamps.com) and the occasional mis-ship and it is break even at best.

    When I set up the tires originally, they only allowed one shipping option via the "Add to Cart" button. I went ahead and added individual buttons for each option with it's own shipping calculator. http://mombat.org/MOMBAT/PartsForSalePages/tires.html

    We also often refund shipping overages once parts are shipped.
    Thanks Jeff. You'll be happy to know that I just ordered a pair now that you revised the shipping prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfh126
    Thanks Jeff. You'll be happy to know that I just ordered a pair now that you revised the shipping prices.
    Boxed and on the way. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    International shipping is expensive. The notion that it is cheap is a reason I am thinking of ending the international option when I sell things. It used to be a lot cheaper, but in the last couple of years, it has become very spendy.
    Agreed. Keep your dregs local
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    Yipes! Those gigantic logos are kind of an unwelcome surprise. I mean, they sort of contravene the (aesthetic) rational behind getting skinwall tires in the first place.

    Did you know they were going to come like that or did Ritchey surprise you too?
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Yeah, the logos are unfortunate. Please let us know if anybody successfully removes them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    Yipes! Those gigantic logos are kind of an unwelcome surprise. I mean, they sort of contravene the (aesthetic) rational behind getting skinwall tires in the first place.

    Did you know they were going to come like that or did Ritchey surprise you too?
    The small hot patch was fine since that has the model name and size on it. The big Ritchey logo was a surprise but after mounting one up, it doesn't bother me as much as it did in the package. The Panaracer Timbuk II is from the original mould with the old style hot patch and is a great "restoration" tire. The Ritchey is more of a resto-mod tire since it isn't and exact duplicate of an original tire. With that in mind, I kinda like the big letters. Gives you the choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    The small hot patch was fine since that has the model name and size on it. The big Ritchey logo was a surprise but after mounting one up, it doesn't bother me as much as it did in the package. The Panaracer Timbuk II is from the original mould with the old style hot patch and is a great "restoration" tire. The Ritchey is more of a resto-mod tire since it isn't and exact duplicate of an original tire. With that in mind, I kinda like the big letters. Gives you the choice

    Hey Jeff,


    I'm with you on the resto-mod flavor of the "new" tires...

    how's about a full bike pic of them mounted up for perspective?


    Steve

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    Word. And again, thanks for the Timbuk II's!!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    I've had International shipping costs for an XTR mech quoted to me as $35 and after some emails with the seller it arrived within 7 days from Texas to my doorstep in Amsterdam for $12,48. As much as i like to buy goods, i hate overpaying for shipping.

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    Yeah, the logos are unfortunate. Please let us know if anybody successfully removes them.
    In the past, on accident, I have removed labels by using degreaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stylus
    I've had International shipping costs for an XTR mech quoted to me as $35 and after some emails with the seller it arrived within 7 days from Texas to my doorstep in Amsterdam for $12,48. As much as i like to buy goods, i hate overpaying for shipping.
    That's exactly what I charge for shipping overseas small items. That cost is shipping and handling. With domestic shipping, I can print a UPS label here at the office, slap it on and leave it for the daily pickup.

    For international, I have to get to the post office, write out customs forms, wait in line... all during lunch. Although its not as big of a PITA than say, threading housing through a Klein frame, it is a hassle. I don't think its unreasonable, but if you disagree, don't shop ebay.com for common items.


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    i can see both sides to this, as a buyer i say don't sell if you don't want to go through the hassle of selling, remember who's paying who.
    I''m just saying i don't agree with paying $35 on something that can be done for $15, i also don't hand out free money on the streets.

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    From now on I'm only shipping priority international, as I am tired of being held to ransom by the buyer and ebay when the package does not turn up on the buyers doorstep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook
    That's exactly what I charge for shipping overseas small items. That cost is shipping and handling. With domestic shipping, I can print a UPS label here at the office, slap it on and leave it for the daily pickup.

    For international, I have to get to the post office, write out customs forms, wait in line... all during lunch. Although its not as big of a PITA than say, threading housing through a Klein frame, it is a hassle. I don't think its unreasonable, but if you disagree, don't shop ebay.com for common items.
    The customs charges on the other end often seem to surprise buyers, too, and risk having an unhappy party. For that and the reasons you listed, I won't ship internationally anymore. Luckily, I'm a low-volume seller, so I don't think the world has been too hurt by this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook
    For international, I have to get to the post office, write out customs forms, wait in line... all during lunch.
    You can do US Postal at home on line and get the same discount as eBay gives, sign on for an account, it's free, load a credit card number fill in three small blanks for customs, pay for and print the label, tape it to the box...I walk into my post office past those not as smart as me, flop them on the counter say there all ready to go and wave at the counter workers that know me well and walk out the door. Can also order free pick up if you want just by checking a box. Free boxes when ever you want them delivered to your house also. Cheaper than UPS, Fed Ex and all others and handled better than UPS. Haven't filled out any paper customs forms in over four years, not one.
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    I'm a UK based buyer and have no problems paying extra for a safe and secure method of transport. I also don't mind paying for postage and handling as it is an extra hassle posting abroad and I appreciate the extra trouble people go to. Often international buyers want everything - the cheap goods from the US, the choice the US has to offer, low shipping, people to mark the goods as $1 for customs purposes and full value insurance if it goes missing.

    to misquote Keith Bontrager:

    Cheap delivery, safe delivery, fast delivery - choose two.

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    ^ yep agree with that, better to pay more for post and have it turn up, then cheap post and get nothing... as opposed to our australian post, pay lots and it still doesn't turn up!

    I'd liek some of these, but ooo am saving madly for my trip to the US... hmmm wonder if I can get them posted to my hotel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git
    ^ yep agree with that, better to pay more for post and have it turn up, then cheap post and get nothing... as opposed to our australian post, pay lots and it still doesn't turn up!

    I'd liek some of these, but ooo am saving madly for my trip to the US... hmmm wonder if I can get them posted to my hotel...
    We've sent them all kinds of different place........hotels would work

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    My tires just arrived and I must say they do look nice. The sidewalls are a bit more "brown" than "skin" colored, but I like them. Quality seems good, and they feel rather light. Now, about those shipping costs...

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    Hey Jeff, any chance of getting you to post a few full bike shots with the tires mounted so I can see how they look on a bike?


    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Hey Jeff, any chance of getting you to post a few full bike shots with the tires mounted so I can see how they look on a bike?
    thanks.
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    Definitely look cool on a modern bike.
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    Jeff why list them as gum walls in your ad on MOMBAT when Gum walls were clearly yellow rubber sided tires back in the day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Jeff why list them as gum walls in your ad on MOMBAT when Gum walls were clearly yellow rubber sided tires back in the day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Jeff why list them as gum walls in your ad on MOMBAT when Gum walls were clearly yellow rubber sided tires back in the day?
    Not really sure what to call them?? Skinwall doesn't really work, natural colored skinwall? (but most people now think natural=black)? tan skinwall? most people associate gum with tan but they aren't gum-rubber sidewall?

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    any chance you do an amber run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobslide
    any chance you do an amber run?
    Amber tread tires? If so, I doubt it. I don't think there is as much of a demand for those tires. I suspect they might go bad before we sold 500 of them.......those didn't age gracefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    Amber tread tires? If so, I doubt it. I don't think there is as much of a demand for those tires. I suspect they might go bad before we sold 500 of them.......those didn't age gracefully.
    yup, full amber - like the old tioga psycho k. i think you might be surprised by the demand. but, maybe i'm crazy. i know i'd pick up a couple pairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobslide
    yup, full amber - like the old tioga psycho k. i think you might be surprised by the demand. but, maybe i'm crazy. i know i'd pick up a couple pairs.

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    Going from memory, those were pretty premium priced back in the day so they would be even more so today. I would guess those would be $60-$65 each today which would kill demand. They were also only offered for a couple of years and not original equipment on too many bikes which would limit the demand. If there was a colored tire that might sell, it would have to be the white onZa Porcs?

    Anyway, the amber tires wouldn't be where I would invest money.

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    Here is another bike with the new Z Max tires mounted so ya'll can see another example.






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    All modern build/parts on a vintage frame?
    -eric-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    All modern build/parts on a vintage frame?
    yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    All modern build/parts on a vintage frame?
    Pretty much a full Deore XT 9 speed kit from 2000/2001 on a 1990+/- Pinarello frame. Took all the parts off of the Trimble and have been working on making it more period correct. didn't have a home for the parts and had a couple of the NOS Pinarello frames. It actually went together nicely and makes for a neat bike.

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    More pictures and details in a new thread:http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=672903

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    great looking bike!
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    Cool build. Looks like the cockpit would be a little cramped though, with the shorter old school top tube and the short reach stem/bar.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    Mounted a pair of the tires on our spec Mountain Goat Whiskeytown Racer. Looks much better than the Bontrager tires that were on the bike

    Those are a great fit for the new Goat's,

    "retro"

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    I'm gonna be bummed when these are gone. Was lucky enough to find a NOS pair.






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