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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    these early Everest's are tough to find (I looked for a long time before I found mine), especially in the smaller sizes . Do you have pictures? Sounds like a great project.
    T, tell me you're not thinking of outfitting one of your kids with an Everest.

    I wouldn't dream of imposing my rigid-frame, friction-shifting fetish on my kids.

    Child protective services might have to intervene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightshade_rider View Post
    classic bike protective services might have to intervene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    Even though Girl on bike thinks Tom made about a Gazillion or so of these bikes (I think she is stretching it a bit ), these early Everest's are tough to find (I looked for a long time before I found mine), especially in the smaller sizes . Do you have pictures? Sounds like a great project.

    Even if Tom could average a production level that reached up to two bikes a day, there are still only about 264 business days in a year.

    My friend was giving me a hard time, how many Ritchey's can one have before one is considered off the deep end?

    I always thought;

    1 early Everest
    1 Annapura
    1 Team Comp
    1 Super Comp
    1 Fillet brazed P series
    1 Plexus

    Would be just right.....

    No doubt A Commando would be cool too...Well that and possibly a dirt drop TimberComp with rollercams front and rear.....

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    1985 Annapurna

    1985 Annapurna

    According to the literature it is a late 1985. Serial number 0A21

    It is also posted here with more/different photos:
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    I just picked this up and just finished cleaning it.

    As far as I can tell it has not been touched since new, looks 100% original.

    None of the bolts seem to have been touched on any of the components. It might even have the some molecules of 1985 air in the tyres.

    The rims are painted with the same colour as the frame and that appears to be original.

    According to the vendor it was not ridden very much at all. He was the second owner and has had it for about a year but just kept it in storage. It was originally bought in CA by a woman who owned it for 25 years.

    There are some storage marks to the paint on the top tube but otherwise it is in near perfect condition.
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    Beautiful bike! Vendor? Did you just get that through the backrooms of eBay? I was dying for that auction to finish to see what the market value was.

    Seriously beautiful bike. Lucky guy!

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    So YOU'RE the one.

    Well, he said you drove a long way, wouldn't divulge the price, and said you parted as new friends, to boot. SO, I guess I can suffer the loss.

    And I was already a bidder with a staggering snipe set, too.

    But, as suggested, it really is a tad too small.

    I want my 22" Everest back. sigh.

    Stunning bike, eh? Thanks for the far superior photos. Lovely details. The painted rims had me worried a bit, but original bling as requested, it appears.

    You be one lucky fellow. Congrats!

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    serious score!
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    Damn nice!
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    Wow. Beauty!

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    Looks like mine when it was new, but I rode mine.

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    Did yours have painted rims? Have you ever seen this before? It looks fabulous on this bike, but I'm guessing someone must have liked the original buyer at lot to have done this, no?

    Jus' curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    Did yours have painted rims? Have you ever seen this before? It looks fabulous on this bike, but I'm guessing someone must have liked the original buyer at lot to have done this, no?

    Jus' curious.
    The rims were just a customer request I'm sure. Or maybe it was a show bike or something before it was sold.

    The Avocet seat is interesting. I have a minty, barely used Team Comp with that same seat and it too looks much more weathered/used than the rest of the bike, much like yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    The rims were just a customer request I'm sure. Or maybe it was a show bike or something before it was sold.

    The Avocet seat is interesting. I have a minty, barely used Team Comp with that same seat and it too looks much more weathered/used than the rest of the bike, much like yours.
    Yes, I agree, the seat looks more worn than the rest of the bike. It is an Avocet USA Racing II.

    Annapurna's were touted by the 1985 catalog to be for “off road, city bike, luxury cruising”. It would seem for the past 25 years the original owner used it for the two latter purposes (and very little of that) and no off road stuff.

    I think the painted rims are very cool.

    Based on the Imron paint chart the colour appears to be 'Jade Green Metallic' number 14283.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq_root_of_2 View Post
    Based on the Imron paint chart the colour appears to be 'Jade Green Metallic' number 14283.
    Are you sure? I think that the Jade Green bikes looked like this:

    <img src="https://www.eandsweb.com/bikes/pics/ritcheytimberwolf/PIC00008.JPG" height="480" width="640">
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    Are you sure? I think that the Jade Green bikes looked like this...

    I am never sure about anything really.

    The colour in the photos is a bit bluer than the bike really is.

    According the pixels on my computer and under indoor lighting, when I hold the colour chart up to the bike the closest match is the jade green metallic. In independent trials my wife and I chose the same colour.

    I will do another comparison in natural sunlight if it stops raining here.

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    I think by 86, the Annapurna was offered in about any dupont color you wanted, no? That color is beautiful.

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    My Ritchey was Emerald Jade green, and a more metallic version of laffeaux' bike color. On my screen, and the auction photos, this is a very fine blue. The bullmoose bars, too. The timeline looks more to 85, but all builds were open to discussion. I'd just never seen a Ritchey with painted rims. Shucks, I've hardly any ever seen painted rims on any bike.

    In any event, do please register this (and any other Ritchey frames not yet entered) into the OldMountainBike registry. It our only real database of these, and this IS a rare "A" frame from a small window in the Ritchey timeline.

    I love looking at the photos. I won't mind if even more detailed photos are yet to be added here. (hint, hint.)

    p.s. - I'd also bet the saddle is not original. The saddle of choice, if Avocet, was Touring II. We know the first owner who ordered the bike was a woman, so may have had the women's version of that saddle -- and she would have taken that saddle onto another bike. My bet. Any saddle you want will do.

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    I guess to keep the look authentic, I see why folks are using old skool tires, but IMO, if it were me, I'd want to ride these things from time to time, and some modern tires and a few other additions would make this a hoot of a bike to ride I would think.
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    I can take a hint.

    A few more photos here.. http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro...21-744248.html

    With a few of my own questions there as well.

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    Mainlyfats has been exceedingly kind to me, but photos and details must wait a few days.

    That said, I want to ask about crank arm lengths on your Ritcheys.

    My '81 arrived in Thailand with TA 180mm arms. I paid a bit of "tea money" to spring it from customs ASAP, although they were utterly agog at the price tag on a "mere bicycle" and were convinced I was smuggling in something! It was released on a Friday afternoon, and the following morning I joined the Thai Nat'l Cycling team on a 7-day ride from Bangkok to Chiangmai by way of the highland/mountains of Phrae.

    Those 180 crank arms d*mn near ruined my knees by the time we were in those mountain stages. Very soon, they were swapped out. BTW, I still have those arms.

    Anyway, the 180s make certain sense for certain uses, BUT, as an all-around crank arm, how many of you are riding the looong crank arms on these frames or have swapped for, say, 170mm?

    Thanks,

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    Okay. I guess if I'm going to elicit any comments, I'll have to begin posting the photos. Only a couple to begin. Available lighting (& time to do anything about it) has not been satisfactory. SO. More when I take better ones.

    As for the 180mm cranks: this be them –


    This is #2C7. What is especially remarkable is the number of beginning "C" frames, that first batch done all in firehouse/Ferrari red, that remain in near pristine condition. Were they just too pretty to use?

    It appears that I will be the 3rd owner since 1984. And I have received a bike that has, from all stories and evidence, NEVER been ridden. There are no oil marks on the chain ring that don't completely wipe off with a single tissue.

    A few detail shots:









    I know that Matt doesn't want a lot of public hoopla, but I owe this man a debt of the spirit for passing this baby on to me. I really want to ride it, and I really plan to ride it. . . But staring at it is daunting. D*mn! Unridden after all these years? Who am I . . ?

    And what about those 180mm cranks?

    Yet I will ride it. Just not today. The tubes don't hold air over 24 hours. Do I use those "brand new tires" or replace with users? I'm not a fan of the Racing model of Avocet, and have a new Brooks that needs broken in – except its brown (but I don't care). Still. I'm still rather dazed about the whole thing. I've searched for some years to replace my stolen "R" bike. It has finally happened. (Thank you, yet again, Matt!)

    As noted, when light and opportunity allow, more photos will be posted.

    Owen

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    "that first batch done all in firehouse/Ferrari red, that remain in near pristine condition."

    FWIW, we always referred to this color as "Tomato Red"

    Personally, I would take the tires+seat off, label+put in dark , dry place for future re-installation option for the next lucky owner.

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    Red Hot Tomato, would be more accurate. Glad to know.

    I think I shall heed your advice, too. Thanks.

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    Wow!! Very nice Team Comp! And all of them came in "Team" red - expect for a few pink ones, and one white one.

    I like the wooden stem cap. Very nice.
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    Wow Owen, what a beaut. I am really glad you found another early Ritchey to replace the one you lost. And kudos to Mainlyfats for making it happen.

    As for the 180mm cranks, I have been riding them off-road for 30 yrs and never gave a thought to getting shorter ones. The extra torque on the steep hills is always appreciated. My guess is that you are 6'2"-ish so I am somewhat surprised the longer arms are troublesome for you.

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    Wow, nice. I need those bars!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightshade_rider View Post
    Wow Owen, what a beaut. I am really glad you found another early Ritchey to replace the one you lost. And kudos to Mainlyfats for making it happen.

    As for the 180mm cranks, I have been riding them off-road for 30 yrs and never gave a thought to getting shorter ones. The extra torque on the steep hills is always appreciated. My guess is that you are 6'2"-ish so I am somewhat surprised the longer arms are troublesome for you.
    Many thanks. And life-long genuflections in Matt's direction.

    I'm actually about 1/4" shy of 6' even, but a bit long in the legs. I ride a 61 road frame, and my R frame was a 22". Maybe in another 10 years (or less) I'll be ready for a 21". Ha.

    My earlier mistake was hopping right onto that new fangled mountain bike and using it like a road bike on the 7 day sprint. Spinning with monster crank arms is not recommended. I guess I shan't do that again, so I needn't worry.

    What are the favorite replacement tires? or is that a can 'o worms?

    Cheers!

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    Take off those tires, put em in a box, and replace them with the skinwalls that MOMBAT offers. If you plan on riding it, take off what ever you don't like (saddle...) put it in a box, Ride what you like. Then occasionally put all the old stuff back on, step back a few feet, drool...
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    Do I spy a Herse? If so, some pics are required.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Really nice bike Owen. Congratulations on this. Enjoy it!

    More photos please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Do I spy a Herse? If so, some pics are required.
    Hetchins.

    Nice Team Comp! I had those narrow IRC's on mine for a while too but put something a little bigger on. I guess those were kinda race tires then.

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    It's a 1963 Hetchins Mountain King. But it ain't a Ritchey, so it doesn't really belong here.

    I'll get around to posting a few photos of it in the Vintage Road Bikes thread.

    Thanks for tire suggestions. I will go a bit wider, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    It's a 1963 Hetchins Mountain King. But it ain't a Ritchey, so it doesn't really belong here.

    I'll get around to posting a few photos of it in the Vintage Road Bikes thread.

    Thanks for tire suggestions. I will go a bit wider, for sure.
    I never said I had Colker Vision.
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    Okay. I have no idea what Colker Vision is, but I'll offer one shot of the frame before I built it. It's built with mostly 70's gear, so the purists don't approve. I love it, although it's about 1" small for my taste.


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    good to see a Hetchins w/out convoluted stays. Those english road bikes tend to have to steep angles. Never ridden one though,,
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    Ah. You must be the Colker Vision (or the inspiration there of), eh? Fabulous avatar, btw.

    The Mountain King is a working bike, what they called the "bread and butter frames", with clearances for fenders. I've switched back and forth between 35mm and 25mm tires. A tad bit of toe overlap with 35, but fun. This is a very comfy bike to ride. As noted, I really wish it were a full 1" taller, but it's still a very sweet bike to ride. Spear-point lugs, but not so crazy-silly like the Maggot Opuke model, etc.


    edit: I think that's the Maggot Oh! Puke model.

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    Back on topic. Tires have touch earth. . .

    1984 Team Comp








    Plan is to swap out saddle, those utterly new pedals, tires & tubes. Then, with only modest trepidation, ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Man View Post
    Take off those tires, put em in a box, and replace them with the skinwalls that MOMBAT offers. If you plan on riding it, take off what ever you don't like (saddle...) put it in a box, Ride what you like. Then occasionally put all the old stuff back on, step back a few feet, drool...
    This is excellent advice.

    There are a couple of items that are in short supply these days that I'd probably try to secure if making this a rider. First up, the Dura Ace cassette of this era is not exactly a normal LBS item (loosescrews still has parts). Second - as Z-man mentioned - those tires are unobtanium. I've never seen a set of them, ever. Third would be a fresh saddle - moot I suppose if you've got something you'd prefer.

    Fresh Grab-ons I don't think are totally impossible, especially if the end caps stay in good shape - might be an idea to put those away. Brake pads might be something to remove as well. I also know, having searched for a while, that 600 EX headsets with decals are harder to come by than you'd think.

    Otherwise, I might put a piece of tape over the outside of the pedal ends and head out.

    Enjoy it, Owen. Hard fought, thought lost and ultimately returned home.

    A good story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    This is excellent advice.
    Second - as Z-man mentioned - those tires are unobtanium. I've never seen a set of them, ever.
    Just sold a set of those exact tires with mold release powder a month or two ago on ebay.

    I've seen them a couple other places too, I think Velocult might also have a set. But yeah, pretty rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Just sold a set of those exact tires with mold release powder a month or two ago on ebay.

    I've seen them a couple other places too, I think Velocult might also have a set. But yeah, pretty rare.
    Wow... Sky? Please - in the name of VRC - put those aside for Owen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Fresh Grab-ons I don't think are totally impossible
    First Flight Bikes has a Grab-On Mtn-1 repro. Grabon ran special run of Mtn-1's with the same forumula they used in bitd and they are exactly like they used to be. I use them on my daily/race bike and love 'em.

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    Again, my humble thanks to you, Matt.

    Superb advice, to boot. First, I had no idea that this WAS a cassette until you mentioned it and I looked close. I just assumed it was a freewheel back there. Duuuh. Would you believe this is the first non-freewheel drive train in my life? I clearly have a bit of research and reading to do. I know, quite literally, nothing about these.

    (As part of my Rip Van Winkle persona coming out of those many years off in the mountains of Burma, I still have never personally experienced index shifting, either. A year ago, I asked someone “what is index shifting?” Needless to say, they cracked up.)

    Replace Saddle? Check.
    Replace Tires? Will do before riding.
    Break pads? Kool-stops rule.
    Pedals? Got appropriate replacements in the treasures box.
    Grab-ons. I think getting a nice replacement set is good, but to use the existing ones. I don’t think they hold up all that well, and my fingers tell me there is deterioration well underway. IF the replacements look right, I’ll hold them as reserve. Foam has a definite and limited life span.

    Of course, the truth is that I’ve utterly “blown the wad” (so to speak) on this, so just that will induce a certain patience in my pace at getting ready to ride. I got hit with a customs charge of $300 that, with a bit of battling with officialdom, I’ve been promised to have reimbursed. But, I can’t do a thing until then or later.

    STILL, I am one very happy lad. I will ride this, but it’ll never be trashed. Shucks, I’ve never trashed any of my bikes. A bit dirty from time to time, but I’m sorta past the “throw myself and bike off cliff to see if I survive” stage.

    It IS a great story, and don’t we love a happy ending?

    Thanks, yet again, Matt.


    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    This is excellent advice.

    There are a couple of items that are in short supply these days that I'd probably try to secure if making this a rider. First up, the Dura Ace cassette of this era is not exactly a normal LBS item (loosescrews still has parts). Second - as Z-man mentioned - those tires are unobtanium. I've never seen a set of them, ever. Third would be a fresh saddle - moot I suppose if you've got something you'd prefer.

    Fresh Grab-ons I don't think are totally impossible, especially if the end caps stay in good shape - might be an idea to put those away. Brake pads might be something to remove as well. I also know, having searched for a while, that 600 EX headsets with decals are harder to come by than you'd think.

    Otherwise, I might put a piece of tape over the outside of the pedal ends and head out.

    Enjoy it, Owen. Hard fought, thought lost and ultimately returned home.

    A good story!

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    Just a fun shot. This is one week after receiving my brand new Ritchey. I hopped on it and joined the Thai national team on a bi-centennial celebration ride from Bangkok to Chiangmai. This shot, in Chiangmai, was taken at the end of the ride. Note the OP shorts, mirrored shades and Adidas super sport shoes. Tres chic, eh?



    Here's a ride shot. About day 4. Sorry for poor quality. All the rest are in deep storage in limestone caves.

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    what's the fun of getting old stuff if you don't get to use them? I say, ride them to death. As for those Grab Ons - no point in saving them for later, they get hard as bricks! (I'm talking about the originals....I have no idea how FF's new ones are.)

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    Moving somewhat slow due to other commitments, and waiting for the postman.

    Nearly ready to ride. New boots & panties.



    Mythos II tires. Swapped out pedals, brake pads and the saddle. Yeah, the saddle isn't really a match, but I have this one and it needs breaking in. I'm thinking of stitching some leather covers on the grips, but need to rustle up the bits for that. Blackburn rack. Took a while to chase the paint from the eyelet threads. (I put a thin plastic washer between rack and eyelet.)

    This whole NOS-thing is a bit unnerving. I kinda wish I'd gotten that big Annapurna that went about two weeks ago. It had scratches and a bit of rust. I almost think I preferred that. hmmm. Actual riding will await the weekend. But, the "maiden voyage" is nigh.

    Yea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    This whole NOS-thing is a bit unnerving. I kinda wish I'd gotten that big Annapurna that went about two weeks ago. It had scratches and a bit of rust. I almost think I preferred that. hmmm. Actual riding will await the weekend. But, the "maiden voyage" is nigh.

    Yea!
    Very nice looking bike!! The NOS think is tough. The best thing that can happen is if you crash it and get scratch the frame early on. After that you'll be happier when you ride it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    This whole NOS-thing is a bit unnerving.
    I bet. That thing is so pretty! I`d be afraid to take in the bush for sure. Hope the maiden ride is all you hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    Yeah, the saddle isn't really a match, but I have this one and it needs breaking in.
    I'm always a softie for the touch of class a nice leather saddle lends to a vintage bike. Nice choice (although it would be a bit more correct using a B66 + seat sandwich rather than B67).

    Watching Robb Penn's tour of the Brooks factory heightened my appreciation of these saddles.

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    Nice video. I know the book, but didn't realize he'd done all that filming.

    The saddle above is the Flyer Special. I put one on my Hetchins and liked it so much, I got this one for a special project - a 1959 Hilton Wrigley. That bike has been stuck at a refinishers in Yorkshire, England, for 8+ months, so might as well start breaking in the saddle while I wait. FWIW, I bought both saddles from SKS in the U.K. Even with postage, they were cheaper than any other source I could find in the US. They came very quickly, to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Grab Ons....I have no idea how FF's new ones are.)
    FFB's grips are exactly like the originals. I know this because I was the one who pestered Charley at Grab-on for about three years about coming out with a re-release of the original composition. When he finally relented I was about to go overseas for 18 months so I couldn't move forward on it on my own, so I passed it on to FFB just to make sure it happened. Thanks to Charley and FFB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin View Post
    FFB's grips are exactly like the originals. I know this because I was the one who pestered Charley at Grab-on for about three years about coming out with a re-release of the original composition. When he finally relented I was about to go overseas for 18 months so I couldn't move forward on it on my own, so I passed it on to FFB just to make sure it happened. Thanks to Charley and FFB.
    They might be the same foam compound (which has a nice feel), but if these are what you're talking about they sure don't look to be from the same mold as the originals:

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    I don't have my NOS sets handy but when I've looked in the past, they were the same. Here is a picture from BikePro and these sure look the same. Flared ends with a slight rise in the middle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin View Post
    I don't have my NOS sets handy but when I've looked in the past, they were the same. Here is a picture from and these sure look the same. Flared ends with a slight rise in the middle.
    Originals seem to have a much more pronounced flange on one side (I prefer it on the inside like a BMX grip, but the Goat and the Ritchey came with them mounted on the outside) rather than almost symmetrical like the new mold:

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    This is a pair from the early 90's and they don't seem to flair quite as much as what you have. Perhaps Grab-On changed the design at some time.
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    Hard to flair more than that bike.
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    Hope this Helps, and doesn't muddle the Discussion

    Here's some TR team issue grips from the bin,
    We cut the ones shown to allow for bar ends...

    Like the ongoing Henrik D @ Vail video discussion, other than the anonymous pissy posts that is...

    I was in the feed zone during that race, it was a helluva job to keep the individual riders bottles available,especially on the 1st lap....
    Appreciating(so far) the hands off disparaging of HD's softride stem...
    His handling skills were somethin to see...
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    All of those Ritcheys are amazing! I really like the look of the fillet brazed frames. Now if I could only come up with an extra $2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure bikes View Post
    All of those Ritcheys are amazing! I really like the look of the fillet brazed frames. Now if I could only come up with an extra $2000
    You can find them for a lot less than that.
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    Here's my 1984 Ritchey Commando after a recent refurbishing. I had posted this bike here a while back, but it looks great now. Custom paint from Tom when he built it for me. Only original components are the front dr, biopace chainrings, and the seatpost. I built the Vantage wheelset myself. Has Ringle front brakes and skewers. Phil BB. King Headset. Shimano 600 SIS rd, Cook Bros Racing crank, Salsa stem.










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    Hi Club Mud,

    Very nice looking bike. Details on it look later than 1984. May I ask the serial number on this one?

    [edit]: The chainstay level rear brake, for example, didn't show up (I thought) until 1987. No?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Club Mud View Post
    Here's my 1984 Ritchey Commando after a recent refurbishing. I had posted this bike here a while back, but it looks great now. Custom paint from Tom when he built it for me. Only original components are the front dr, biopace chainrings, and the seatpost. I built the Vantage wheelset myself. Has Ringle front brakes and skewers. Phil BB. King Headset. Shimano 600 SIS rd, Cook Bros Racing crank, Salsa stem.
    Interesting build with the old and new, but it looks neat.

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    Owen, to the best of my memory it was '84 but it might have been '85 at the latest. The lower rollercam brake (which is now the Shimano on this machine) had just been introduced. It originally had Tom's fillet brazed bullmoose bars, which I would kill for to find again. Serial # OB365.

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    Thanks, again. This is just to feed my curiosity, nothing more. Great photos. Yes, the right bullmoose bars would perfect the look.

    That serial # would suggest, according to Eric's master list, 1986+.

    I really think we should mount an effort to register/list many, preferably ALL, of the bikes in this very thread that are not yet listed on OldMountainBikes. That list really could become the Velo-Base of Ritchey mtb history, yes? Personally, I just love cruising the listings. This thread is better, but the build details are included on the list.

    I am also curious about the history of the Tange tubing. Yours had the blue decal declaring the 4130 tubing. So does frame 1C3, a true 1984 Team Comp, even tho it is "accepted" that Team Comps used Columbus tubing until the SuperComp in 1987. The list has no photo posted (one has been submitted), but I've seen good photos showing it. Mine (again, a deep genuflection to Matt), on the other hand, # 2C7, has no tubing id markings externally. I assume it is Columbus tubing.

    Jus' curious.

    Thanks, again. Great thread. Only the Legends thread is comparable.

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    Clean lines! I really like your snow white Ritchey. Personal preference would be for a different saddle and grips (white Turbo reissue?), but the bike looks great. The decal color sets off the frame and black build really well.
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    Thanks again, Owen.

    I submitted my info and photos to oldmountainbikes last week but he has not updated the page yet. As with many older items (like my vintage guitars), serial numbers are not always sequential or spot on for accuracy. I know I bought it in '84 or maybe '85. I wonder if the current Ritchey company has those build or dealer order records? My local dealer has long since closed, and I doubt I'll ever find my sales receipt.

    BTW, Nate, the color is Dupont Imron Eggshell Blue, a very slightly bluish white, but it's hard to see that in photos. I've already changed the grips to all black but they are still new. The seat I had in my shop from a recent Specialized Roubaix. Not really correct but being white, I just had to put it on.

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    Not top of the line but...

    ...still a very nice riding bike. Any other Outbacks out there? I believe this one to be an '88 or '89. sn 00429, 7 speed XT group. Thoughts?
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    Definitely don't see as many, but that one is clean!
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    That must have been a custom order if the paint is original. Pretty sure they were blue stock. What a great bike!
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    My Outback.

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    wow!

    That blue looks great. That's about the same size as mine, right? 21.5? It's a tad big for me (20" is perfect) but it works.

    I bought it about 5 years ago from the original owner, but I can't remember what year he said it was. My guess is '88? the s/n is 00429, which at first made me think it was a '90, but hadn't Shimano moved to the next-gen XT group w/trigger shifting?

    I think this was a custom order, as suggested, but I can't remember the details. You may notice the down tube cable guide for a rear u-brake. He told me he specified rear cantis, so maybe this one was originally delivered from Japan w/the u-brake setup, but when the Ritchey guys finished the rear triangle they put cantilever bosses vice the "normal" u-brake?

    Thanks for the input guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Just sold a set of those exact tires with mold release powder a month or two ago on ebay.

    I've seen them a couple other places too, I think Velocult might also have a set. But yeah, pretty rare.
    I covet a Ritchey bike. These pics are great.

    I just purchased a rust bucket condition 84 Stumpjumper Sport. It has the exact same 180mm crank set as that sweet red Ritchey. I think it has those rare tires as well. I'll take them out of the garbage can tonite and check. Glad I read this, the tires might be worth more than the bike?

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    getting close with this one...
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    very nice

    Timber Comp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxflyer View Post
    Timber Comp?
    Wasn't big difference between TimberComp and TimberWolf those years components? TC rear brake Chainstay, TW seatstay. That said, TR would give you what you asked for......
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    Just checked my email archives

    I bought the Outback from the original owner. He traveled to Cali in '88 before buying the bike, so it seems it's an '88. That makes sense considering the components and SN. He didn't specifically say it was a custom order, but it is the original paint/decals, and he told me he didn't like the chainstay U-Brakes, so maybe he did place a special order for cantis and wanted black.

    This was my first Ritchey, and the ride is great. I prefer a 20", but it's such a solid bike in great condition that I enjoy it nonetheless.

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    Those Outbacks are great looking! I really can't say I knew anything about them or saw any. Good score.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Club Mud View Post
    Those Outbacks are great looking! I really can't say I knew anything about them or saw any. Good score.......
    Thanks Club Mud. I use it as a commuter/tourer, the slacker angles make it very comfortable. And the rack mounts are nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepperman View Post
    My Outback.

    Bonus points for matching saddle, grips, and housing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Bonus points for matching saddle, grips, and housing!
    fashionista? Guess not since 95% of the bikes out there have black saddle, grips and housing
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    I meant to post this a while ago. Pictures I took at last year NAHBS show in Austin. Pictures of a bike Tom Ritchey made for his dad and a couple raw fillets that were on display.




















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    '88 Force Comp

    Hi all Ritchey heads. This is my '88 I believe Force Comp that I rescued from the lbs three months ago(sporting at the time riser bars and a kickstand). It is a local Victoria bike as it still has the original shop sticker. I've since replaced the levers and shifters as both were crapped out. trying to keep it correct so i just got deore shifters and xt four finger levers from ebay. Most of the bike wears deore i. I know it's low end for a Ritchey but it rides like a dream and It's my pride and joy. Any info on the model would be appreciated as I haven't come across it on any of the sites I've looked at. It's mostly tigged except at the seat cluster which looks filleted. Gawd i hate typing on this laptop. cheers Andrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by guywitharitchey View Post
    Hi all Ritchey heads. This is my '88 I believe Force Comp that I rescued from the lbs three months ago(sporting at the time riser bars and a kickstand). It is a local Victoria bike as it still has the original shop sticker. I've since replaced the levers and shifters as both were crapped out. trying to keep it correct so i just got deore shifters and xt four finger levers from ebay. Most of the bike wears deore i. I know it's low end for a Ritchey but it rides like a dream and It's my pride and joy. Any info on the model would be appreciated as I haven't come across it on any of the sites I've looked at. It's mostly tigged except at the seat cluster which looks filleted. Gawd i hate typing on this laptop. cheers Andrew
    Force comp isn't that the stem name. Looks/sounds like a Ascent which the serial number would look like this for 87 A7C00369 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by guywitharitchey View Post
    Hi all Ritchey heads. This is my '88 I believe Force Comp that I rescued from the lbs three months ago(sporting at the time riser bars and a kickstand). It is a local Victoria
    Victoria, BC?

    Canada had it's Ritchey models which weren't sold in the US. Ritchey had a distribution deal with Rocky Mountain. I'm not sure exactly how it worked, but there are several Canadian-only Ritchey models.

    Your bike would be in line with an Ascent, Aspen, or other "entry level" Ritchey. They were made overseas and imported into North America. They're decent frames of similar quality to other similarly priced frames of the time.
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    Thanks guys, yes it is Victoria BC, Canada. serial number is R8126. maybe R denotes imported by Rocky Mountain Bicycles? The frame has all the Ritchey touches ie ovalized seat tube at BB. Lugged and filleted seat cluster. The rest of the welds are TIG. The top tube badge looks just like the Ascent Comp lettering except it says FORCE instead of Ascent like this. (FORCEcomp). Sounds like to me Ritchey wanted to have a lower priced model available in Canada and that is why it is all deore instead of xt as most of the Ritcheys I have ever seen. Car companies do this as well because as a general rule we don't earn as much as you Yanks.

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    It still looks like a nice rider! Thanks for the photo.

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    I'd love to have an full rigid frame and fork 80s Ritchey. Could someone break down the models and expected/fair price range so I'll have some frame of reference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sapo Rojo View Post
    I'd love to have an full rigid frame and fork 80s Ritchey. Could someone break down the models and expected/fair price range so I'll have some frame of reference?
    Check current and completed ebay listings, the fillet models can go for big money and the tig models can be quite reasonable comparatively. What are your expectations, do you want a collectors bike or a rider? I paid $150.00 locally for a Ascent with $100.00-150.00 worth of vintage parts on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley View Post
    Check current and completed ebay listings, the fillet models can go for big money and the tig models can be quite reasonable comparatively. What are your expectations, do you want a collectors bike or a rider? I paid $150.00 locally for a Ascent with $100.00-150.00 worth of vintage parts on it.
    I want a rider for a paved trail. I'm pretty tight with the $. Usually end up going cheap on the bike, I love those $100-150 bikes, and then I end up spending way more for upgrades than a better condition/ model bike would have cost at the start.

    I love riding my 83 stumpjumper, seems to me like it would be fun to have the original instead of the copy. Those fillet bikes look incredible. Do they show up on CL? Any areas seem to have more of them? I'm in Nor Cal Bay Area.

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    This is really not the thread to have this kind of discussion. This is a picture thread. But yes, they pop up on CL pretty frequently. Just gotta be a little diligent.

    Feel free to start up a new thread with questions (but not outings).

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    Canada had it's Ritchey models which weren't sold in the US. Ritchey had a distribution deal with Rocky Mountain. I'm not sure exactly how it worked, but there are several Canadian-only Ritchey models.

    One thing to add. When I picked up the bike it was fitted with a Rocky Mountain labelled Selle Italia saddle.
    It's settled then the Force comp was a Canada only model imported by Rocky Mountain.

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    Rumpfy, are those self-energizing brakes in back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMF View Post
    Rumpfy, are those self-energizing brakes in back?
    Nope. Full XT build.
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    Rumpfy,
    Did you paint your Team?

    Looks nice!
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    Steller paint. I'll asume you were planning to but I'll go ahead and prompt you for more pics.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    I'm generally against repaints. This is a different bike. 9P10....10th (production?) P-Team bike everrrrrrr.
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    Nice fade! (...more pics!)
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Great looker...know I'm being picky but I'd have gone with black zip ties on the shark fin
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126 View Post
    Great looker...know I'm being picky but I'd have gone with black zip ties on the shark fin
    I ran out of the black mini zip ties! But at least the yellow matches the front of the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Steller paint. I'll asume you were planning to but I'll go ahead and prompt you for more pics.
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    Nice fade! (...more pics!)

    Not the cleanest set of pics, but the full shoot here:
    1990 Ritchey P-23 Team 9P10 - a set on Flickr
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    That's really really nice. I am a sucker for long fades. The black XT hubs and brakes really set it off too.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Not the cleanest set of pics, but the full shoot here:
    1990 Ritchey P-23 Team 9P10 - a set on Flickr
    Nice job, hows it ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y View Post
    That's really really nice. I am a sucker for long fades. The black XT hubs and brakes really set it off too.
    Thanks! Ya, I like the all blacked out too.

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    Nice job, hows it ride?

    Same as the previous ones I had.
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    That's one sweet bike, love the fade. Another stellar bike built by the "man".

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    Thanks! Ya, I like the all blacked out too.




    Same as the previous ones I had.
    That helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley View Post
    That helps
    Sorry, I had a black 19" tig'ed and a 20" fb'ed before this, so its not really something all that new or different in terms of ride (for me personally).

    I've owned quite a few P-Series bikes over the last decade and each frame was a little upgrade and some refinement to the build. They all rode very similar...which is to day, I really enjoy the P-Series ride. Good all arounder. Classic race bike. Good with the tight quick stuff, but not totally out of control when the speed gets up or the tires leave the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Sorry, I had a black 19" tig'ed and a 20" fb'ed before this, so its not really something all that new or different in terms of ride (for me personally).

    I've owned quite a few P-Series bikes over the last decade and each frame was a little upgrade and some refinement to the build. They all rode very similar...which is to day, I really enjoy the P-Series ride. Good all arounder. Classic race bike. Good with the tight quick stuff, but not totally out of control when the speed gets up or the tires leave the ground.
    what happened to the blue one?
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    move the front brake cabel over the bar and then through the hanger. Less cable kink
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    what happened to the blue one?



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    Any chance that the Ritchey registry list might be updated . . . ?

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    A few more pics of the Force comp in case anyone is curious. Also I researched the old mtb site and now I have doubts about it being an '88. I think it may be an '87. Does anybody know when Ritchey stopped doing the under stay u-brake? cheers Andrew
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    Saw this guy in the market today, and I asked him where he got the shirt.

    "Hand me down from my dad."

    Another hair just turned gray and jumped ship.
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    Damn. Painful.

    Now, can we reproduce these? That is a very fine version of the design.

    I'll take a dozen, please.

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    Yesterday I picked up what I think is a 1985 Ascent 20" from Craigslist. Rear rim was shot, pulled off wheels and seat and swapped with some components I had laying about.
    As these are not the valuable Ritcheys from what I gather, it frees me to modernize the build somewhat. If it was an Anapurna as I originally thought I'd be inclined to stick with a faithful reproduction. What do you all think?
    Serial Number A5E00168.
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    like this

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    I raised the stem, trying to get a little more of a comfortable position, but there's not a lot to work with. These stems also house the cables. It may be a challenge to find a taller one to swap with because of this cable routing feature.

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    Always nice to see another one rescued.

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    You don't want to raise the stem too much....it looks like you've raised the stem too far as it is. Your saddle is also tilted down. Most people find it more comfortable if you weren't sliding down on your...um....stuff.

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    Ya I have to fix the saddle hee hee. Stem has to go down an inch or so as well.
    All of these Velocity stems I see on Ebay have the same amount of tube going into the headset so replacing it may not accomplish much.

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    You don't need to specifically look for a velocity stem. Look for a stem with more rise or one without the cable routed through the stem, you're not married to that routing. You could get a different stem and get a cable hanger. Or. You should think about a bigger bike.

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    It's a 20" frame, should be about right for me at 5'10". I can't really visualize an alternate cable route for the front brake. No doubt that's my rookie builder speaking.

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    88 Outback...Tange DB, Deore XT/Deore mix, Chainstay mounted u-brake. Missing the rubber brake lever boots other than that and the tires all original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmor_62 View Post
    It's a 20" frame, should be about right for me at 5'10". I can't really visualize an alternate cable route for the front brake. No doubt that's my rookie builder speaking.
    2 "proper" ways to do a front brake cable hanger/stop, if the stem doesn't have one built into it.
    1- headset mounted (most proper/period correct). See the ones for threaded headsets. Inserted as a "spacer" below the locknut or replaces the keyed spacer.
    parts looks something like this

    2- fork mounted (where the reflector mounts)

    Harris Cyclery has both on this page, though the newer version of the tektro looks more svelte.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bmor_62 View Post
    Ya I have to fix the saddle hee hee. Stem has to go down an inch or so as well.
    All of these Velocity stems I see on Ebay have the same amount of tube going into the headset so replacing it may not accomplish much.
    That Velocity stem isn`t original to the bike anyway. It`s probably off of a early 90`s Kona.
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    Today was the first warm day of 2012 so I took the afternoon off of work and went for a ride. Three hours of trails is exactly what I needed.

    Here are pics of the '83 Ritchey Everest that rides really nice.


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    Is that original paint? In any case that bike looks great!

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    Yep. Original paint from CycleArt.
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    Hey Eric

    That came out really nice!!!

    More photos please or its own thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Yep. Original paint from CycleArt.
    Let us know what CK said about the bike. He seemed to remember it.

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    Jeff's Bike of the Week award goes to Laffauex...
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    What a fantastic bike, EL. That paint is really sweet.

    Some bikes just make you want to jump on and ride whenever you look at them ...

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    I remember watching that auction with great pain. This was the bike I thought that I really "ought" to have, rather than the collector's piece I had just purchased the month prior. I was waaaay tooo broke to even think of bidding, but it was all I could think about. I even considered borrowing cash to buy it and then selling the collector bike. But that seemed just too weird. Then, after a very scary and long spell without, I landed a job. I kept the browser page of that auction open as long as it let me see the photos. If only the job had come sooner. If only I had a bit of sanity!

    I'm glad the bike is in good hands. Is it really a 23" frame? That bi-plane fork....

    Thanks for the photos. Always happy to see more.

    Cheers!

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    Thanks all. And Rocco, thanks for pointing me to the seat post.

    The frame is 23 inches - perfect for me. I was a bit worried about the condition based on the auction pictures, but he really did take pics of the worst of the paint damage. With a little wax and some poorly matching touch-up paint it looked much better. I switched out a few components that had been upgraded over the years and it was ready to go.

    Here's one more pic of the paint, and another pic of the beautiful day that we had today. I wore a short sleeve jersey on the ride, and I didn't cold on the downhills! (very unusual for early March in Idaho). I'm planning on taking the bike to Keyesville to race, so I'll get more pics there.

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    That paint is super rad. I'm glad that frame is 23 inches, otherwise I'd be dreaming about it all of the time.

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    So unique.....
    Do you have the bikes story?
    Look forward to seeing it..
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    Frack! What a beautiful paint job! Love the forks! Great pick up. Can't wait to see it! Wow. You're a 23"?! Man. A lot of the guys at keyesville are super tall. Oh well. At least I'm taller than bushpig.

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    Have a couple old Brazed Ritchey's i just brought home from the LBS.

    The built one i got from an old Syncros Factory Employee. He said the headset was an old prototype he use and ended up keeping on his bike (wish he had put some syncros cranks on this beast)... brazed stem, fork and frame

    Other frame will be next winters project, thnk it may need a re-paint (forks are black, frame is green)
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    The bike Laffeaux has was a special order, and had a one of a kind CycleArt paint job. You will not see another like it.

    Can't remember the disposition of the bike. As I recall it stayed around the shop for quite a while and then I think we sold it to someone other than the person who originally placed the order.

    Good to see it again and to know that it is in capable hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    Today was the first warm day of 2012 so I took the afternoon off of work and went for a ride. Three hours of trails is exactly what I needed.

    Here are pics of the '83 Ritchey Everest that rides really nice.

    Looking forward to seeing up close in a few weeks EL!
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    Found This at the Marin County Dump...

    A little rusty on the outside, but totally intact... All XT , fillet brazed Ritchey stem... Could not believe someone just dumped it. The weird thing is that it I used to own the exact same bike, and I was reminiscing about it just days before...
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    You may want to check to see if it's stolen. Great find!

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    Cool,
    hope it fits....
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    so...

    This was definitely discarded as trash, it's not in running order, not yet anyway. It's the right size frame, but the stem is too long. So if anyone wants to trade for a shorter one, it's a nice stem. I am definitely fired up to ride this back and flashback to the late 80's... Did I mention the Hite-RIte?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeSnob View Post
    A little rusty on the outside, but totally intact... All XT , fillet brazed Ritchey stem... Could not believe someone just dumped it. The weird thing is that it I used to own the exact same bike, and I was reminiscing about it just days before...
    I go there all the time. Once something is "dumped" it's gone, scraped up by the big machine in seconds.

    Did one of the workers there separate it out? How did you retrieve it?

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    I should have something to add to this thread soon.

    But for the moment, anyone care to chime in on this serial number? It's 9C14.

    My guess is a 19" Team Comp, 14th made in... a year I wish I knew.

    I don't have any idea regarding the 6526.

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    Hmmm. 0C14 is in the serial number list.

    The 6526 has been added later with a die and hammer, as they clearly cut thru the finish.

    In theory, it should be a 1984-5 Team Comp. . . but

    [Edit: Ooops. I thought the # wasn't repeated, but I see that is was from time to time. SO, I'd say it is clearly a late 84 or early 85 Team Comp. IMHO.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    Hmmm. 0C14 is in the serial number list.

    The 6526 has been added later with a die and hammer, as they clearly cut thru the finish.

    In theory, it should be a 1984-5 Team Comp. . . but

    [Edit: Ooops. I thought the # wasn't repeated, but I see that is was from time to time. SO, I'd say it is clearly a late 84 or early 85 Team Comp. IMHO.]


    Thanks for the info, and I'm glad to hear I was thinking along the same lines.

    And though it looks like a zero, it's definitely 9C14.

    More pictures when it arrives.

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    I dug out my old 1985 Annapurna OA22 serial number,original imron dark rose metallic.Almost like finding it at the dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmuff View Post

    And though it looks like a zero, it's definitely 9C14.

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    No, what I meant was the 0C14 is already in the registry. My first assumption was that the sequence had a problem (size)frame series(frame#). I'd not notice that TR did sometimes repeat the (frame#) with a different (size). Then I looked again and saw that he had. Thus, yours, 9C14, is either just before or just after 0C14.

    We'll look forward to the photos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsager View Post
    I dug out my old 1985 Annapurna OA22 serial number,original imron dark rose metallic.Almost like finding it at the dump.
    We definitely want to see photos of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsager View Post
    I dug out my old 1985 Annapurna OA22 serial number,original imron dark rose metallic.Almost like finding it at the dump.
    Nice subtle first post....

    " I dug out my Annapurna"

    Pictures please.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsager View Post
    I dug out my old 1985 Annapurna OA22 serial number,original imron dark rose metallic.Almost like finding it at the dump.
    That is cool!!! Yes please put up some photos. I have 0A21, the one before, so it would be great to see yours.

    Photos of mine are posted here http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro...21-744248.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsager View Post
    I dug out my old 1985 Annapurna OA22 serial number,original imron dark rose metallic.Almost like finding it at the dump.
    Let's see it! (You'll need 10 posts to start up a thread so either go to the test forum on mtbr or comment a bit.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsager View Post
    I dug out my old 1985 Annapurna OA22 serial number,original imron dark rose metallic.Almost like finding it at the dump.
    Nice....poooost pics!
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    This bike belonging to a San Anselmo firefighter was one of the first nine frames Tom Ritchey advanced to Gary Fisher in 1979, the launch of MountainBikes.



    The owner was relieved of it last night along with an Otis Guy, More photos here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    This bike belonging to a San Anselmo firefighter was one of the first nine frames Tom Ritchey advanced to Gary Fisher in 1979, the launch of MountainBikes.

    The owner was relieved of it last night along with an Otis Guy,

    Fantastic bike!

    Relieved of an Otis!? Nooo! You have any pics of that one?
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    Diggin' it. The sweep on that bar is impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    This bike belonging to a San Anselmo firefighter was one of the first nine frames Tom Ritchey advanced to Gary Fisher in 1979, the launch of MountainBikes.


    The owner was relieved of it last night along with an Otis Guy, More photos here.
    Interesting. Didn't we see that one here at some point? I remember something about that Potts stem and bars... Interesting fork crown as well. Neat bike.

    Got any pics of the Otis Guy?

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    is it the blue and yellow one?
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Both bikes stolen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    is it the blue and yellow one?
    Different bike. I don't think I have photos of this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    The owner was relieved of it last night along with an Otis Guy, More photos here.

    Ugghh!! I really hope that the owner gets the bikes back. Getting bikes stolen sucks. Getting irreplaceable bikes stolen sucks more.
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    Oof. I somehow read the "relieved of" as if someone had bought them. Sorry to hear it if they were nicked!
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    Me too, Nate! That stinks! We should do a "on the lookout for stolen bike sticky" here but we'd need serial numbers.

    Thanks for posting ck and I have to say.... I'm shocked that you don't have a pic of something. You're pretty damned great at keeping us visually satisfied for decades!

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    Oh ****. Relieved as in not by choice? I read that wrong too. Bummer.

    Well...fortunately a lot of local VRC fans in the Bay Area...not something we'd miss on CL or on the trails.
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    Oooo! Nice first Ritchey!
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    My first Ritchey. I'm stoked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Oooo! Nice first Ritchey!
    Thanks Eric! I'm sure you were reading the previous posts, it's a 84-85 Team Comp.

    Picked up from the Yuma craigslist, from the grandson of the original owner.

    I should have some wheels for it. Any leads on decals? NOT going to paint it, but the decals are a little beat.

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    Very, very nice! Another of the early "C" bikes! Yea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmuff View Post
    Thanks Eric! I'm sure you were reading the previous posts, it's a 84-85 Team Comp.

    Picked up from the Yuma craigslist, from the grandson of the original owner.

    I should have some wheels for it. Any leads on decals? NOT going to paint it, but the decals are a little beat.
    Original decals might be tough. In a pinch, maybe these:

    1980s Ritchey decal set of 7

    Ritchey decal set of 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Original decals might be tough. In a pinch, maybe these:

    1980s Ritchey decal set of 7

    Ritchey decal set of 7
    Bookmarked. Thanks man.

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    Sure glad you got the original fork......and bars....Congratulations.....
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    This one looks just right to me.
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    I got to talking with my girlfriend's mother about bikes a few weeks back when all of the sudden she brought up Ritchey. We had been talking about road tours in general, so I knew she had something specific to talk about. She asked if I knew of any of his stuff and she began to list a few parts that is manufactured under the name Ritchey these days. I told her I knew more than just those parts and knew a little bit about his legacy in mountain biking history. She got up from the table and told me I might enjoy a few pictures. She came back with a photo album and showed me some photos of her and a mustachioed man that she said was at one time her boyfriend. I picked up on her inference and asked how long she dated Tom, et cetera. It really made me jealous seeing pictures of her with some of the nicest bikes of the era. It also made me want an authentic Ritchey bike just that much more!

    She told me some other things about Tom as her memory began to flicker and he sounded like a genuinely thoughtful man. It was an interesting feeling of some distant-closeness to a man who has work that I find very admirable.

    Funny, now there's a Trek hanging in her garage.

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    That is utterly wild!

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    There, that's better. I'll post a thread on this sometime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmuff View Post
    There, that's better. I'll post a thread on this sometime soon.

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    Super nice Team Comp! Looks like a 19"?

    Awesome find!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Super nice Team Comp! Looks like a 19"?

    Awesome find!


    Thanks! I'm super happy to have it. Serial number is 9C14, so yeah, it's a 19".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    She told me some other things about Tom as her memory began to flicker and he sounded like a genuinely thoughtful man. It was an interesting feeling of some distant-closeness to a man who has work that I find very admirable.

    Funny, now there's a Trek hanging in her garage.
    Way cool story!

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    Much. Again, nice pick up. Bike just looks like it'll ride great.
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    I need some help identifying an early Ritchey - probably an 82 based on the components. I searched the old mountain bikes site and can't find an exact match for the components. This one has Tomasselli brake levers, Mafac brakes, TA cranks, Simplex FD, Deerhead RD and a 3 digit serial number.


    From what I've read, the frames were basically the same except for the Everest. Is that true? And if it's not an Everest, does it matter which model since the frames were the same.

    thanks for your help - hate that I can't post pics until 10 posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blilrat View Post
    I need some help identifying an early Ritchey - probably an 82 based on the components. I searched the old mountain bikes site and can't find an exact match for the components. This one has Tomasselli brake levers, Mafac brakes, TA cranks, Simplex FD, Deerhead RD and a 3 digit serial number.


    From what I've read, the frames were basically the same except for the Everest. Is that true? And if it's not an Everest, does it matter which model since the frames were the same.

    thanks for your help - hate that I can't post pics until 10 posts.
    that sounds promising. There are other highly sought after frames besides the Everest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blilrat View Post
    I need some help identifying an early Ritchey - probably an 82 based on the components. I searched the old mountain bikes site and can't find an exact match for the components. This one has Tomasselli brake levers, Mafac brakes, TA cranks, Simplex FD, Deerhead RD and a 3 digit serial number.


    From what I've read, the frames were basically the same except for the Everest. Is that true? And if it's not an Everest, does it matter which model since the frames were the same.

    thanks for your help - hate that I can't post pics until 10 posts.
    Pics are the easiest way to identify it. The serial number helps.

    There were two frames: Mountain Bike I, and Mountain Bikes 2. The MB2 came with one water bottle mount and no optional braze-ons, a limited number of sizes, and limited number of colors. The MB1 could be customized and the head tube is milled out on it's face to save a bit of weight.

    The MB2 frames were sold as several different models based on the components, and fork. The frames were the same and not identified otherwise.
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    IF the deerhead RD is original, that would put the date into the 1984 range.

    Photographs are key, so make a few more posts and then get 'em up. Inspect that serial number, too. You might be missing something. Photograph it, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    IF the deerhead RD is original, that would put the date into the 1984 range.

    Photographs are key, so make a few more posts and then get 'em up. Inspect that serial number, too. You might be missing something. Photograph it, too.
    Deerhead was on the market for 4 years.

    Let's see pics! Two other good indicators are the fork and the bars.

    I'm guessing pre-83 based on the parts, with the Deerhead rear derailleur being a later upgrade.

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    Deerhead was introduced in 83, but not really popular until 84. The other parts are rather agnostic. Magura levers would have been more indicative of the earlier date. I'm easy, but very curious. Let's see that fork crown, too!

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    First - I need to say this isn't my bike. I'm helping someone identify it.

    The owner said she rode around the Mt. Tam area and bought this bike new from Gary Fisher's shop in Fairfax and believes the fork was made by Steve Potts who painted another bike she owns.

    So here are the pictures: Warning - some aren't pretty.




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    Looks like it has potential to be a real pretty bike. Fork is by Potts and the frame looks like a standard early mountain bikes. Most the parts look original so it should clean up nice.

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    Good score. Good save...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blilrat View Post
    First - I need to say this isn't my bike. I'm helping someone identify it.

    The owner said she rode around the Mt. Tam area and bought this bike new from Gary Fisher's shop in Fairfax and believes the fork was made by Steve Potts who painted another bike she owns.

    So here are the pictures: Warning - some aren't pretty.
    Great looking bike! It's a "Mountain Bikes II" frameset from either '82 or '83. If the serial number doesn't fit the more common numbering schemes it will tough to narrow it down beyond that.

    I briefly had a Rtichey with a similar Potts fork. I wonder how many forks Steve made for the MB2 frames?
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    Thanks for your help everyone.

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    Thanks for sharing; now let's see the other bike Steve painted.

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    here's the other bike steve painted for me...

    a78- 80-ish Celo / Colnago frame; i forget the size but i'm 5'4"Official (Tom) Ritchey Picture Thread-p1010009.jpg
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    Cool stuff----and that Ritchey is awesome. Looking forward to seeing it cleaned up!
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    Cool bike
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    Should have posted my Ritchey while I was working on the other posts.

    Not in the league of most of the bikes in this thread, but a really nice all original example

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    blilrat, I love that Ascent, it looks great. I have one very similar w/ serial number '202'-it's a 20" (I posted it earlier in the thread) would you mind telling me the serial number on yours?
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    beautiful, well cared for bike---it has soul!

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