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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Man
    Damn sexy...

    Come on R, you know it's to big for ya...Me on the other hand....
    Shazam.....
    Ok, I bet you could probably make it fit...

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    my favorite pic of tom is the full-size standup they used, when he was a noshow for his induction into the mountainbike hall of fame. anyone have a copy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer
    Come on R, you know it's to big for ya...Me on the other hand....
    Shazam.....
    Ok, I bet you could probably make it fit...

    MMMM mmmm
    I'd try, but nothing fits like the 20" TC...
    ...and if I come home with another bike the wife will have a conniption.

    The TC we traded is the only bike the wife actually commented on as looking nice. I don't think she likes my new 29er....
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    RItchey Commando

    This is my Commando. Click any pic to see full size.
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    Does original Ritchey paint (Imron) have a clearcoat over the top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deluxe
    Great looking bike:

    Attachment 552517

    While we are on the Ritchey topic. Anybody local pick up this beautiful ride off the bay this morning?

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    I'm pretty certain mine did.

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    Commando paint

    Pretty sure mine has a clearcoat.
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    If the decals are clear coated than the obvious answer is yes. Multi colored paint is usually clear coated since all of the colors can't be applied "wet", which leaves a dry to the touch feel where the colors are blended. Imron itself does not require clear, although applying a couple of coats brings out the depth in the paint.

    Edited to add - Imron with no clear is smooth, but will show a slight texture if you look at it closely from the side with light reflecting off of it. Clear "flows" better and doesn't have this characteristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHADES
    If the decals are clear coated than the obvious answer is yes. Multi colored paint is usually clear coated since all of the colors can't be applied "wet", which leaves a dry to the touch feel where the colors are blended. Imron itself does not require clear, although applying a couple of coats brings out the depth in the paint.

    Edited to add - Imron with no clear is smooth, but will show a slight texture if you look at it closely from the side with light reflecting off of it. Clear "flows" better and doesn't have this characteristic.

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    Thank You!, it appears my frame may not be clear coated as the stickers have no clear. This is most likely a 87 Ascent , strangely the Ritchey and model decals are removed. I wanted to touch up the scratches and then spay clear over the whole thing after using a fine sandpaper. I did this to a Miyata and it really masks the touch up well and shines things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swisscross
    My Chicane and SwissCross
    Cannot wait to find the right MTB
    My wife thinks I have issues.
    Added another SwissCross to the family.
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    1st production year Ritchey?

    I'm not sure of the year but this bike I was told that this is a 1st year of production bike serial #2R152. It is 100% original, lived it's life in Crested Butte. The bike was handed to me from the original owner, who had it custom built for him.











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    Please try again,
    The pics didn't take and this is going to be good.....

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    Original owner was a long legged son of a gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Original owner was a long legged son of a gun
    Maybe thats why I like old Ritchey's, those old large designed frames are sweet for the tall people.

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    Tall or not, I would find a way to ride this bike. Very nice, and soo original...even the tires.

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    I can see CK looking that thing over after final assembly and declaring:

    "I think were gonna call that thing there a unicrown fork"

    And so it was.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley
    Does original Ritchey paint (Imron) have a clearcoat over the top?
    Ritchey paint jobs were cleared coated and the decals went over the clear. It wasn't until 2000 or so that he started to have his decals clear coated.

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    Sibling Reunion

    Slightly different # in the1R0151,Fork+.Saddles variation too..+I'm guessing at what looks like a Campi seatpot(could be wrong)
    Thanx Tim, for pointing me here, I'm all misty eyed on the 2 pieces of a old puzzle matching up.
    Guesswork:
    A run of Big bikes for quota -sales expectations?

    Oh yeah, being a TR pic thread, last photo is a few months ago above Pacifica, Ric Bennett(Salada Beach Cafe) Tom Sullivan(Amsterdam Bikes) TR, Jay Ritchey, Santa Cruz Betty Joe Bialaski
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnirider
    I'm not sure of the year but this bike I was told that this is a 1st year of production bike serial #2R152. It is 100% original, lived it's life in Crested Butte. The bike was handed to me from the original owner, who had it custom built for him.
    cool bike. Not first year, it's probably an 80 or 81. Also the fork is not original. The Unicrown (named by Tom I think) came out in late '83-84.

    Those early bikes were sized like road bikes. In other words, back then you rode a ~3" bigger frame than you would today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssulljm
    Oh yeah, being a TR pic thread, last photo is a few months ago above Pacifica, Ric Bennett(Salada Beach Cafe) Tom Sullivan(Amsterdam Bikes) TR, Jay Ritchey, Santa Cruz Betty Joe Bialaski
    A few months ago! That mustache and hairdo look more old school than the bike!
    I thought it was a 25 year old picture!

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    That frame has the double crown fork that was on mine. I think it was the 1R designation. My frame was #133, but didn't have the 1R mark. But I believe that it was in this cohort. Slight changes, but yours is the closest I've seen. Fabulous looking! Thanks for posting the photos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    cool bike. Not first year, it's probably an 80 or 81. Also the fork is not original. The Unicrown (named by Tom I think) came out in late '83-84.

    Those early bikes were sized like road bikes. In other words, back then you rode a ~3" bigger frame than you would today.
    So I asked more questions about the bike and found out that it's an '83, so I guess that explains the fork being unicrown. So for an '83 it's 100% original, down to the tires.

    The downtube stickers were removed when the bike was purchased, was told it would "show off the welds better"

    The owner has fallen on tough times, so I've been tasked with cleaning it up and getting it ready to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    cool bike. Not first year, it's probably an 80 or 81. Also the fork is not original. The Unicrown (named by Tom I think) came out in late '83-84.

    Those early bikes were sized like road bikes. In other words, back then you rode a ~3" bigger frame than you would today.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...light=unicrown

    Tom was initially very skeptical of the UniCrown fork (BTW, I named that item, and had anticipated using a unicorn for a logo.), because bending the top of the fork blade and then cutting a clean miter on it had turned out to be a challenging problem. I'm not sure of the details, because that was Tom's domain.

    Although BMX forks had used a UniCrown style, Charlie Cunningham's first design was just the crown, and the unbent blades were then brazed into it. It was neat looking, but it included several steps that were eliminated by the UniCrown, which attached the blades directly to the steerer.

    We bought Tange socket forks as soon as they came on the market, and also used the clunky, heavy Tange plated forks.with the fake Ritchey crown. That was the fork I ditched from my wife's bike.

    After reading this thread a while back, I have attributed the name Unicrown to CK
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    Quote Originally Posted by swisscross
    My wife thinks I have issues.
    Added another SwissCross to the family.
    Even though it's a beauty, keep it out of the family group photos. That should help with the wife.

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    I sometimes think that more Ritchey's were sold overseas then right here in the USA...this one is Dutch if memory serves me.....


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    Ritchey 1998 Plexus

    Little risky posting being a 1998, but here we go. I'm the original owner. It was ordered with custom color and came with Ritchey spec package. The only thing I added was a Steelman stem.Official (Tom) Ritchey Picture Thread-pl-1.jpg

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    Magura Cork filled grips

    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    No, he's putting this up here with the hope that someone will post their Ritchey and say they were thinking about selling....the Rumpfy pounce .

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    Amazing bike!!
    Do you have a connection for those Magura cork filled grips?

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    my 88 super comp with Olympian Don Myrah
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    You should pay me for the use of that pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You should pay me for the use of that pic.
    Check is in the mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky
    Check is in the mail.

    Score!
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    still waiting,,,,,,,

    no one has come up with my favorite tom ritchey picture. the lifesize stand-up they used when he didn't show for his mtn bike hall of fame induction. and everyone said they liked the cardboard version so much more.

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    Favorite bike (of my own) needs to go in my favorite VRC thread:




    It's a rider....
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    Nice Stem Aemmer : )




    and bike.
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    favorite? & look in the bushes???

    Wow T,

    I should have gotten more from you before I boxed it up and sent it north! Had I known it would become your favorite... I would have snagged your Ibis and something else... I've been had by the smooth-dealing FedEx man! All the same, it looks great and I'm glad you're loving it!

    Hey T (and all other fans of T.R.),

    As I was enjoying the pics in this thread I happened onto something that caught my eye and has left me intrigued. Check out the pic that I grabbed from ssulljm's post back on 7-8-2010, look past T.R.'s handlebar 'stache, there in the bushes beyond his rear wheel, it's painted up Ritchey red, white, and blue but it's a Softride (floating TT) frame with a Flex-stem. Did Tom ever do such a thing, a floating TT tri-style frame? It's bizarre Clearly it's intended for trail use with the Flex-stem up front and the knobby tires.

    Any Ritchey experts care to weigh on this one?

    Thanks!
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    I think it's Sullivan's so it must be a Ritchey
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    Yes, Ritchey made the 'Lite-Beam'.

    Breezer and Otis Guy also making bikes of similar design.

    The one in that picture is Sullys.
    http://oldmountainbikes.com/cgi-bin/bikes.cgi?bike=S007
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    Thanks Rumpfy!

    Here's another one for you... how many "Lite-Beam" frames did Ritchey make?

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    Frankenstem

    That's a JP Morgen "Frankenstem" on my bike... The red-white-blue were our team bike color scheme for awhile...
    We had the option of riding the beam bikes for training + or racing.....A couple of us were experiencing back spasms, and training long miles on the Softride's was a good way to not jack our back's.
    Here's another of my Lite Beams...it was originally's TR's personal bike w 26 wheels(Now don't jump all over my balls for this) I had him braze on 700c wheel brake bosses to allow me a slicier trail ride....

    http://oldmountainbikes.com/cgi-bin/...ke=none%284%29

    As far as how many Lite Beams TR made....not sure. Have asked KY from Ritchey Design, he guessed approx 50, but was very clear on this being just a guess...

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_pop_71
    Hey T (and all other fans of T.R.),

    As I was enjoying the pics in this thread I happened onto something that caught my eye and has left me intrigued. Check out the pic that I grabbed from ssulljm's post back on 7-8-2010, look past T.R.'s handlebar 'stache, there in the bushes beyond his rear wheel, it's painted up Ritchey red, white, and blue but it's a Softride (floating TT) frame with a Flex-stem. Did Tom ever do such a thing, a floating TT tri-style frame? It's bizarre Clearly it's intended for trail use with the Flex-stem up front and the knobby tires.

    Any Ritchey experts care to weigh on this one?

    Thanks!

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    Sully,
    What kind of tire clearance do you have on that thing?
    It's a cool ride.

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    Clearance

    Plenty
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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Nice Stem Aemmer : )




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    It looks like you could fit some 38's in there. So is the cork crown modified or is that a 700c fork?
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    The fork pictured is the original

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    It looks like you could fit some 38's in there. So is the cork crown modified or is that a 700c fork?
    The fork pictured is the original +came with 26' canti brake bosses, only mod was done by TR in brazing 700c canti bosses as per my request.

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    Any info on these?!?!

    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Aside from it not being a Ritchey?
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    That'd be a start. It is from a Hungarian site and supposedly old stock. I assumed just a sticker, but anyone knows about Euro licensing funny business, it would be here!

    http://www.matuzmaster.hu/mtb-vazak/
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    excuse the mess (i was transfered and had to load the folks basement up when i rented the house out) back for christmas and dug some of the ritcheys out. i left a few nicer ones down at the LBS that i will try and get some pics of this week.
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    The "better" ones are at the LBS???

    Wow.

    This is in D.C.???

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    A couple more. the green brazed bike (non fenders) has a neat back story... bought it off a guy who worked at the Syncros factory when he got this bike... he couldnt afford the cranks of forks but he put on syncros bars / bar ends / stem / seat post / proto-type syncros head set. the fender bike is a match to the light blue one i posted earlier ( got those two bikes off a couple (cops) who lived in Whistler and bought them up there in the 80's... very low use)......... more to come when i get down to the lbs (those were old pics i took with the BB)
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    Great Ritchey Interview

    Hey, you guys should check out Chris Kostman's interview of Tom Ritchey on the Rough Riders site. Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Hey, you guys should check out Chris Kostman's interview of Tom Ritchey on the Rough Riders site. Good stuff!

    http://www.xo-1.org/2011/01/tom-ritc...own-words.html

    Great article. EL you gotta link this to your site please.....
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    I bought this new, custom ordered, in 1984, IIRC. It's a Commando, but I hate camo, so Tom painted it Dupont Imron eggshell blue, which is pretty white. Only original component is the saddle.


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    Here's an '86 I just picked up from one the VRC regulars
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    Holy hive full scooder...you capturing a market?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Holy hive full scooder...you capturing a market?
    With one more, a red one at that, to go!
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    Here's a few pics of my 1983 Ritchey Competition. Fenders 'cause I'm in British Columbia Canada and it tends to rain here.
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    Wow. That is a beaut. Whats the serial number?

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    Man! Agreed, that is a superb bike! I am digging the maroon housing.
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    thanks sn# is 7192.

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    Gorgeous!
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    Beautiful bike.

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    Very nice are the lugs faux or real?
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    lugs are faux. thanks for asking

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    Very cool indeed. Original jade green paint?
    Glad to see its still being ridden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Holy hive full scooder...you capturing a market?
    Nope. Seems the last one I just picked up had damage that wasn't revealed at all in the auction. And I'm pretty pissed off about it.
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    Nope. Seems the last one I just picked up had damage that wasn't revealed at all in the auction. And I'm pretty pissed off about it.
    Note, it wasn't the Commando.

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    Damage that you consider to be damage or ride and usage patina? If you think it's really that bad why don't you just return it then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Damage that you consider to be damage or real damage?
    what does that mean?
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    I guess that is sort of the question---what kind of damage, and how bad?
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    The better question is:

    Why did the seller subject the buyer with this predicament in the first place when the condition of the bike was easily seen and described?
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    Could you describe it here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw
    Note, it wasn't the Commando.

    True that! The Commando is awesome. Plus the seller is a stand up guy. I trust him.
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    Beautiful Competition. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    I guess that is sort of the question---what kind of damage, and how bad?

    Stuff like this:
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    Ouch. I hope that is surface and not a really dug-in chew.

    Still, I'd rather have some chain suck hiding behind chainrings than dents on the TT that would be always in my eye while riding. Sucks if it was misrepresented though, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    Sucks if it was misrepresented though, of course.

    Right?
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    Stuff like this:
    Sell it to me half price, or send it back

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    With all due appreciation to The Ritcheys we share on this 'official" thread....
    This discussion is ready for it's own thread somewhere else . . .

    I am a Ritchey geek who reads this thread beginning to end every couple of months just to appreciate all your bikes and your comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer
    With all due appreciation to The Ritcheys we share on this 'official" thread....
    This discussion is ready for it's own thread somewhere else . . .

    I am a Ritchey geek who reads this thread beginning to end every couple of months just to appreciate all your bikes and your comments.
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    I was gonna say the same. New thread.

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    3rd'ed. New thread. Get the popcorn!
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    Finally

    OK. They aren't period correct tires but I did manage to land some Specialized. So this is the first post of my 85 Timberwolf with extra braze ons. No peanut gallery remarks thank you.


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    But......but.......the saddle.

    Now I'll go back to eating my peanuts.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Fine. Very fine.

    I presume this is a refinish? Who did the paint?

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    Nice. Nearly everything in this thread is amazing.
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    Paint was done by Bicycle Specialties a long time ago.
    Too many bikes, and just enough time to ride them.

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    Ritchey Soft Tail

    Latest addition to the Ritchey family. Its an early 96 ST.
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    Please return this thread to its proper place in the VRC forum.
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    Is that strange? No wonder I couldn't find it.

    VRC, please!

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    Time to test this thread and make sure it's still working.


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    An important thread! Especially for someone still hunting for an "R" frame w/ biplane fork in 21" or 22"...

    Anyone???

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Time to test this thread and make sure it's still working.

    did you earn that jersey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    did you earn that jersey?

    Ha! if that was me, I'd be working as a bike model

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    Even though it has its own thread, I suppose I should add this here too:

    1982 Ritchey McKinley, restored to original spec.

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    Wasn't watching the bigger thread, so might have missed it. Thanks!

    Great, truly great, refurb!

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    So, what's the story with early early Ritchey road bikes? Cool details. How long was he building lugged roadies?
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    Pretty much all through the 70's, including a few as he moved more exclusively into MTB frames. Lusted after, although not as much as (some of us) lust after those early MTBs.

    I'd call this a good score if it fits. TR's brazing was always considered excellent. This frame shows some nice touches.

    Can you/anyone put a year guestimate on it?

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    This one is supposed to be '70-'71, but built up in '73-'73.

    Indeed--lots of nice touches. Great shaping on the lugs and the circular cut outs are cute.
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    This Mountainbikes catalog puts TR at 23 yo in 1981.

    https://www.oldmountainbikes.com/cat...1981_02-03.jpg

    Doing some quick math, that makes TR 13 years old in 1971. Certainly this must be one of the first frames he made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    This one is supposed to be '70-'71, but built up in '73-'73.
    So he was about 14-15 yrs old when he built it !!??

    A highly motivated young teen for sure.

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    The TR cutout does look a little adolescent, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightshade_rider
    So he was about 14-15 yrs old when he built it !!??

    A highly motivated young teen for sure.

    "Tom Ritchey began building bicycle frames at the young age of 15. During his senior year of high school he had progressed to building 200-250 frames. He continued building at the rate of about 250 frames per year until 1980 when he moved into mountain bike frame construction. By 1980, with approximately 1,500 road frames under his belt, Tom quickly became the number one builder of hand-built mountain bike frames."

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    First, I question the dating of that frame. The fastback stays, etc.

    BUT, TR got his first welding kit at 14 and starting building frames at 15. By 18, he was building more than 250 frames per year.

    Highly motivated would be an under-statement.

    I'd still say this is a nice looking frame. Anybody wanna guess what it will bring?

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    Maybe its just me, but the thought of handing my young teen son a welding kit is more than a little scary.

    So, did TR aprentice with any one, or just teach himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad
    First, I question the dating of that frame. The fastback stays, etc.

    This one is supposed to be #3 and looks sort of fastback-y:

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    Yeah. I've seen that. Photo doesn't allow for better viewing of the details. I fully concede that I simply don't know. I'm just a fan. The man was precocious, and had the reputation for fine work from even his earliest frames.

    But, if this is #3, then we can surely agree that the frame of the OP is not from 1970-71, yes?

    I'm just glad it isn't my size! ! !

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad
    I'm just glad it isn't my size! ! !

    x20
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    Here's my latest rider, a '88 SuperComp. I picked this up as a complete bike over a year ago, and finally got around to stripping and rebuilding it more to my liking with an incorrect mix of M730/732/735 bits. I've now ridden it twice in Santa Cruz in as many weeks. It's a super single track machine.
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    Figured I'd bring back another good thread.


    As purchased.



    As finished.


    As ridden!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Figured I'd bring back another good thread.


    As purchased.



    As finished.


    As ridden!
    Nice bike!

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    Nice How's she ride? or should I say he?
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    Nice bike ER. A true collector. Rare and desireable even for this thread. I always like the fact that you ride your projects.......
    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2 or 3. Cunningham Racer.

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    Good idea Aemmer! I'm gonna go out now and ghost-jump all of my Ritchey's.

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    So what makes it a Team edition?

    Nice ride BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    Good idea Aemmer! I'm gonna go out now and ghost-jump all of my Ritchey's.
    Noooooooooooh....
    Ride with moderation ........Please.... Use, don't abuse......
    Pretty sure if you abuse a vintage Ritchey you get like seven years bad Craigslist luck.

    Jeff, check out the welds on ER's. By the time the P series were in play, things were getting a little more tiged.... Exception was the Team models. (I am sure there are exceptions to this rule).

    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2 or 3. Cunningham Racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11 View Post
    Nice How's she ride? or should I say he?
    Rides pretty much like my P-23...which is to say pretty durn good!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
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    Aww, thanks buddy.

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    So what makes it a Team edition?
    Nice ride BTW.
    What Aemmer said. Fillet brazed version of the tig welded P-23.


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    Ride with moderation ........Please.... Use, don't abuse......
    Pretty sure if you abuse a vintage Ritchey you get like seven years bad Craigslist luck.

    Weeeell....I laid it down pretty good on its second time out. I might not ghost jump this one...but I won't be a ***** about it like some people *cough*dc*cough*cough*
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    Pretty bike, Rumpf. I like that seafoam Potts-esque color. As I think I said before, looks like this one fits a little better than the other.

    These P-23s ride really nice. The Logic fork is a little fatter than the ave fork at the dropouts too which I think helps things out a bit. I need to get mine all finalized and back on the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Pretty bike, Rumpf. I like that seafoam Potts-esque color. As I think I said before, looks like this one fits a little better than the other.

    These P-23s ride really nice. The Logic fork is a little fatter than the ave fork at the dropouts too which I think helps things out a bit. I need to get mine all finalized and back on the trails.
    Thanks buddy. Definitely a better fit. The post was nearly maxed on the other one.

    To be honest, I didn't notice much of a different in ride on this one over my tig'ed P-23, fork too.

    I didn't know yours was apart. The red one right? Did it never make it back together after the drop bar experiment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Thanks buddy. Definitely a better fit. The post was nearly maxed on the other one.

    To be honest, I didn't notice much of a different in ride on this one over my tig'ed P-23, fork too.

    I didn't know yours was apart. The red one right? Did it never make it back together after the drop bar experiment?
    Yeah, it did, but I've got some new stuff to go on like those team wheels and stem I got from Clark Natwick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    So what makes it a Team edition?

    Nice ride BTW.
    FYI: The P-23 Team is fillet brazed but the Ritchey racing team used tig'd P-23's
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11 View Post
    FYI: The P-23 Team is fillet brazed but the Ritchey racing team used tig'd P-23's
    I think that was more the case on the P-21s and P-20s.

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    Not sure if I shared these ever....speaking of team bikes.





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    Yesterday was a great day for a ride....






    I may have posted the Timber Comp (blue) in this thread earlier, it's an '85, as best I can tell. The red one is a very early (20", serial number 202) Ascent, it came as a frame and fork, so I had no parts to ID the exact year. I built it with mostly 87/88 era parts. The TC is nearly all original, I'm the second owner.


    WANTED: Fisher Paragon, blue/green, Ritchey dropouts.

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    Yes, those are the bikes used by the Ritchey Racing Team. Team bikes but tig'd, oh so confusing Just wait till you try to figure out Ritchey serial #'s Remember Marin Co is near Humbolt Co
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Not sure if I shared these ever....speaking of team bikes.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun700 View Post
    Yesterday was a great day for a ride....


    Love that hay bail pic!

    Ken, yeah for sure they were TIG'd on the later P bikes (slightly lighter), but I'm pretty sure the '89, '90 and 91 bikes were brazed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    Those are pure sex. damm...

    Ya, I wanted to take them home with me. I like how the red/white/blue paint is so different on each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Love that hay bail pic!

    Thanks-wish I had taken a moment to turn the bikes around though.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Love that hay bail pic!

    Ken, yeah for sure they were TIG'd on the later P bikes (slightly lighter), but I'm pretty sure the '89, '90 and 91 bikes were brazed.

    I've have yet to see a race team bike fillet brazed, but who know's, here's Ruthies '91 tig'd

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    It looks like I asked a good question. I always thought tig for Team bikes also. So maybe a Team bike for the consumer?
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    And then you could have a non Team Fillet brazed P-23

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    Here's Don Myrahs '90 P-23 Team, looks to be fillet brazed

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11 View Post
    I've have yet to see a race team bike fillet brazed, but who know's, here's Ruthies '91 tig'd

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    Great pic. I was just talking with Ruthie today (but not about this), she just got inducted into the US Bicycling HOF. That's actually a 92 bike (note the rainbow stripes) and would be a P-21.

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    Refurbed Annapurna - Just need decals

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    Good for you BP. What is your guesstimate on year made? Did you paint or powder?


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    I am pretty sure that the bike is an 1985. It was a shame to repaint it but the frame needed serious work. It was Rocky Mountain branded (RM logo on the seat tube) and had a lot of the original parts. It came with Deer Head and 6206 cranks. In 1985 Rocky sold a lot of Ritchey's production in Canada as Tom was still building up his US distribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig View Post
    I am pretty sure that the bike is an 1985. It was a shame to repaint it but the frame needed serious work. It was Rocky Mountain branded (RM logo on the seat tube) and had a lot of the original parts. It came with Deer Head and 6206 cranks. In 1985 Rocky sold a lot of Ritchey's production in Canada as Tom was still building up his US distribution.
    This one's from 85 as well. A first-year, Canada-bought Japanese Ascent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig View Post
    I am pretty sure that the bike is an 1985. It was a shame to repaint it but the frame needed serious work. It was Rocky Mountain branded (RM logo on the seat tube) and had a lot of the original parts. It came with Deer Head and 6206 cranks. In 1985 Rocky sold a lot of Ritchey's production in Canada as Tom was still building up his US distribution.
    I thought that was just the Japanese built bikes? Did they sell the bikes actually built by Tom too?

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    They sold the Japanese bikes (including the Canada only models) in addition to the full line of Tom built bikes. After Tom went out on his own full time (after having worked with Fisher previously) he didn't really have a distribution system set up in the US. Rocky really helped him get started. The major bike shops in Edmonton had rows and rows of fillet brazed Ritcheys when I was there in the mid-80s.

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    That Annapurna is going to be sweet
    I really need one of those.

    After TR left Mountainbikes, it was Grayson Bain and the other
    RockyMountain guys that enabled Ritchey to relaunch his bike
    line by ordering enough bikes. The Canada only bikes were basically
    Ascent's with different specs and the Cannapurna, no fake lug's,
    the real deal They also sold many of Tom's Fillet brazed bikes.

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    Thanks, that`s great to know...I didn`t realize they imported the fillet brazed bikes in those kind of numbers. Gives me a little more hope of actually finding one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MERK26 View Post
    Thanks, that`s great to know...I didn`t realize they imported the fillet brazed bikes in those kind of numbers. Gives me a little more hope of actually finding one!
    Pedlar, Duke's and - I think - Bikenergy in Toronto sold a bunch of them too. By the time I got to Bikenergy (c. 1988) they were fully committed to RoMo and I don't recall any Ritcheys on the floor.

    My 2nd decent MTB was a lugged Ritchey with 6 spd indexed Deore bought from Pedlar in 1987. It was a burgundy made for Canada special very similar to the one above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    My 2nd decent MTB was a lugged Ritchey with 6 spd indexed Deore bought from Pedlar in 1987. It was a burgundy made for Canada special very similar to the one above.
    Thanks. I have seen quite a few of the lugged bikes, and I recently talked to a guy that is still riding his (bought brand new) though it has little in the way of original components. I was surprised to learn he had bought it in 87. I thought it was probably an 84, but he knew exactly when it was purchased. When he found out I was interested, he went home and got the brochure/spec sheet and original receipt for me... how cool is that!?
    Sure enough, an 87 model that was based on the 84 bike, but "modified to become part of the Ritchey tradition but at an economical price" Pretty interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MERK26 View Post
    Thanks. I have seen quite a few of the lugged bikes, and I recently talked to a guy that is still riding his (bought brand new) though it has little in the way of original components. I was surprised to learn he had bought it in 87. I thought it was probably an 84, but he knew exactly when it was purchased. When he found out I was interested, he went home and got the brochure/spec sheet and original receipt for me... how cool is that!?
    Sure enough, an 87 model that was based on the 84 bike, but "modified to become part of the Ritchey tradition but at an economical price" Pretty interesting...
    It would be cool to get that brochure copied and forwarded to EL so he can post it up on Oldmountainbikes
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    Nice Annapurna, pig. I like the white. What's the SN on that one?

    Here's 1A4 for the thread:

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    The paint looks better in person since it has some pearl clear coat. Serial is 9A4!

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    On my way to take a MTB ride I ran across the "Dinosaurs" road ride. Here are Joe Breeze, and Tom Ritchey, left and right.
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    GREAT photo. Thanks for posting it!

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    Cool pic. Fill us in on Bob LeMond. It isn`t Gregs father is it?

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    My '93 P-21 original color and '95 Road Logic (previous owner repainted the RWB fade to solid red, someday I'll get it repainted to the RWB team fade).
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    I was asked to post pictures of this bike, and I am more than happy to oblige. Bike is shown as acquired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skush View Post
    My '93 P-21 original color and '95 Road Logic (previous owner repainted the RWB fade to solid red, someday I'll get it repainted to the RWB team fade).

    I'm diggin' the purple, you don't see that often. I don't think I've seen that color on a Ritchey ever actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southbeach View Post
    I was asked to post pictures of this bike, and I am more than happy to oblige. Bike is shown as acquired.
    Excellent excellent excellent pick up. Quick tire swap and a few minor tweaks and you have a great bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Excellent excellent excellent pick up. Quick tire swap and a few minor tweaks and you have a great bike.
    i would ditch the Ringle wheelset asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    i would ditch the Ringle wheelset asap.
    A little out of place on a Ritchey, but I like Ringle stuff ok. I'd ditch the stem, saddle, gripshift and tires first.


    Before I knew better than to use v-brakes, I had a repainted P-22 with red Ringles. Go figure.

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    I also like all the variations of the r/w/b fade, with Southbeach's being the neatest version.

    Looking at my old bike...ugh what a mess that thing was. Glad thats in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I'm diggin' the purple, you don't see that often. I don't think I've seen that color on a Ritchey ever actually.
    Not quite in the same league, but the owner of a shop here in Toronto that I used to wrench at has a mint Ascent in a kind of Lavender purple with yellow decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I also like all the variations of the r/w/b fade, with Southbeach's being the neatest version.

    Looking at my old bike...ugh what a mess that thing was. Glad thats in the past.
    That build.. wasn't your best moment.
    Now.. i thought Ritchey team bikes had gripshift. SB's bike has all the good ritchey stuff: brakes, cranks, post, hbar.. even the softride says ritchey racing.
    saddle and wheels should go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I'm diggin' the purple, you don't see that often. I don't think I've seen that color on a Ritchey ever actually.
    @ Rumpfy - I had never seen the purple either. I bought the bike from a girl who worked at Ritchey in the early - mid nineties. Ritchey had given the employees bikes as a bonus one year so she requested the purple color. It is a '93 model year. Here is what it looked like when I bought it from her:


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    oh, you swapped out the v brakes. nice! Great bike and my size!!! man oh man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skush View Post
    @ Rumpfy - I had never seen the purple either. I bought the bike from a girl who worked at Ritchey in the early - mid nineties. Ritchey had given the employees bikes as a bonus one year so she requested the purple color. It is a '93 model year. Here is what it looked like when I bought it from her:

    Way cool. I hope you still have the matching rigid for for it! If you do, put it back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    That build.. wasn't your best moment.
    Now.. i thought Ritchey team bikes had gripshift. SB's bike has all the good ritchey stuff: brakes, cranks, post, hbar.. even the softride says ritchey racing.
    saddle and wheels should go.

    Definitely not my best moment. And sadly not my worst either.

    The gripshift is probably correct, I just can't stand it.
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    The matching rigid is on there. With rigid fork and no pedals, it weighs in at 19.8 lbs. It's a P-sub20!

    Here are the specs:

    Front Derailleur: Shimano Dura Ace

    Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR

    Rear Cogs: XT w/ Ritchey 9th cog

    Hubs: Ritchey Hugi 240

    Rims: Ritchey XC Ltd

    Brakes: Ritchey WCS

    Levers: Ritchey Logic

    Shifters: Ritchey 2x9

    Cranks: Ritchey 2x9

    Bottom Bracket: Epic Speed Metal Ti with ceramic bearings

    Pedals: Ritchey Logic

    Headset: Chris King

    Bar: Ritchey Pro Lite

    Stem: Ritchey 4-Axis

    Seat Post: Ritchey Logic

    Saddle: Selle Italia Flite

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    Quote Originally Posted by skush View Post
    The matching rigid is on there. With rigid fork and no pedals, it weighs in at 19.8 lbs. It's a P-sub20!
    But still couldn't keep up with a 45lb bike with pedals!

    I don't get the weights without pedals that, for some reason, is fairly common.

    Nice bike though.

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    Hmmm...here's mine. I'm not sure if I posted this here yet. I just realized I haven't finished converting it back to original specs. Too-Many-Bikes syndrome.
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    Start with those chain rings.
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    then swiftly remove those rapidfire shifters..
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    ...followed by a hurried removal of that seat...

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    hhahaha. ass clowns. Yes, saddle already swapped. and good calls! shifters and rings are on my to do list. anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    hhahaha. ass clowns. Yes, saddle already swapped. and good calls! shifters and rings are on my to do list. anything else?
    Brakes.. believe those are too old. Rear derr. should be short cage. Brake cable hanger.. maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    hhahaha. ass clowns. Yes, saddle already swapped. and good calls! shifters and rings are on my to do list. anything else?
    Answer Hyperlites are wrong. Pedals. Tires.
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    tires, brakes, and bars are staying! Colker is assuming the cable hanger is wrong. Love it! ha!

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    Needs Ritchey Team wheelset which they sold with the 28 hole Ultegra front hub. I think those brakes are ok but the XTR pads are a major hit.

    haha. Just piling on and havin fun with ya, G.

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    you have a team wheelset. and no, I don't mind. Kinda expected it when posted. :P The saddle, shifters and rings are the biggest problems. The pads will be changed too. oops. Didn't notice that one. Thank God I posted today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    tires, brakes, and bars are staying! Colker is assuming the cable hanger is wrong. Love it! ha!
    I said "maybe"..haha. I thought P23s had the Logic brake set, levers and cantis.
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    I'm diggin the TANGE decal on the fork leg

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    I said "maybe"..haha. I thought P23s had the Logic brake set, levers and cantis.
    We sold these when they first came out and I recall the Logic brakes not being available when the P-23 came out, so they used Dia Compe brakes until probably the P-22.

    https://oldmountainbikes.com/catalog...hey1990_02.jpg

    I'd prefer the Shimano equivalent over the DC stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    We sold these when they first came out and I recall the Logic brakes not being available when the P-23 came out, so they used Dia Compe brakes until probably the P-22.

    https://oldmountainbikes.com/catalog...hey1990_02.jpg

    I'd prefer the Shimano equivalent over the DC stuff.
    DC 986. It was the Comp 23 i saw w/ Logic brakes then.. always thought they were good looking.
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    Forgive my slight sideline, but pertinent, question.

    As you move through classic finds, especially like these, how significant is a 1" frame size, up or down, in your experience of these machine(s)?

    If you felt best on a, say 22", of this vintage machine, how would a 20" handle?

    Subjective opinions, only. Thanks!

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    I fit 21" to 23" (Ritchey scale) comfortably, but if the bike an price was right, I could probably fit on an 18" to 25" frame.

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    The problem with riding an off-sized early Ritchey is that you get little or no height adjustment with the bullmoose bars (zero adjustment with clamp-on style and maybe 1" with the quill version). And if you are lucky enough to have a bike with those beautiful original brazed bars, you might be reluctant to swap them out for something that will fit better.

    But the fit and handling on my 19" Commando feels great (especially climbing out of the saddle) because the previous owner had fitted it with a high rise stem (about the same rise/reach as a P10 stem). This bike would feel really cramped with the original bullmoose bars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    But still couldn't keep up with a 45lb bike with pedals!

    I don't get the weights without pedals that, for some reason, is fairly common.

    Nice bike though.
    @ Fillet-Brazed - LOL that is very true!

    I have no idea why weights are so often listed without pedals. I guess it's because everyone has a different preference for pedals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skush View Post
    @ Fillet-Brazed - LOL that is very true!

    I have no idea why weights are so often listed without pedals. I guess it's because everyone has a different preference for pedals?
    well.. tires vary a lot in weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightshade_rider View Post
    The problem with riding an off-sized early Ritchey is that you get little or no height adjustment with the bullmoose bars (zero adjustment with clamp-on style and maybe 1" with the quill version). And if you are lucky enough to have a bike with those beautiful original brazed bars, you might be reluctant to swap them out for something that will fit better.

    But the fit and handling on my 19" Commando feels great (especially climbing out of the saddle) because the previous owner had fitted it with a high rise stem (about the same rise/reach as a P10 stem). This bike would feel really cramped with the original bullmoose bars.
    Hmm. I hadn't thought about the bullmoose bars. I'd hate to loose those.

    Thanks for the thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightshade_rider View Post
    The problem with riding an off-sized early Ritchey is that you get little or no height adjustment with the bullmoose bars (zero adjustment with clamp-on style and maybe 1" with the quill version). And if you are lucky enough to have a bike with those beautiful original brazed bars, you might be reluctant to swap them out for something that will fit better.

    But the fit and handling on my 19" Commando feels great (especially climbing out of the saddle) because the previous owner had fitted it with a high rise stem (about the same rise/reach as a P10 stem). This bike would feel really cramped with the original bullmoose bars.
    +1

    Back in the day I had a 19-inch Ritchey with tons of stem and seatpost. I now have a 21' 1984 Team Comp with brazed bullmoose bars that is a little too compact for me - at minimum I'd need the long-reach everest stem/bars to ride this comfortably. I also have a 23' 1985 Ascent that I find still requires a 150mm stem to get adequate reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skush View Post
    @ Fillet-Brazed - LOL that is very true!

    I have no idea why weights are so often listed without pedals. I guess it's because everyone has a different preference for pedals?
    Same with seats and handlebars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    +1

    Back in the day I had a 19-inch Ritchey with tons of stem and seatpost. I now have a 21' 1984 Team Comp with brazed bullmoose bars that is a little too compact for me - at minimum I'd need the long-reach everest stem/bars to ride this comfortably. I also have a 23' 1985 Ascent that I find still requires a 150mm stem to get adequate reach.
    Drats! This was exactly what I was afraid of. When something I want finally appears, it's too small. Double drats!

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    Tom made like a gazillion a year so they come around.

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    Easy for you to say!

    My problem is that I'm fussy. Having had my 1981 Everest stolen, I want an 80-83 only. I also want the bi-plane fork. I also want . . .

    yeah, yeah. Patience.

    But thanks for the encouragement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeicaLad View Post
    Drats! This was exactly what I was afraid of. When something I want finally appears, it's too small. Double drats!
    You could always pick it up as trade bait if the price was right. You might well find someone looking to trade a 22" frame for something a bit smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightshade_rider View Post
    You could always pick it up as trade bait if the price was right. You might well find someone looking to trade a 22" frame for something a bit smaller.
    Speaking of that... I have an 18" '82 Everest with bi-plane fork and fillet-brazed bullmoose that I'd trade for a 20 or 21"... or something else equally cool.

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    I'll be hunting a 22" frame. The 20" in question does not belong to me . . . yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    That build.. wasn't your best moment.
    Now.. i thought Ritchey team bikes had gripshift. SB's bike has all the good ritchey stuff: brakes, cranks, post, hbar.. even the softride says ritchey racing.
    saddle and wheels should go.
    Thanks for the comments, certainly appreciated. I have a pair of megabite z-maxs that came with the bike and a ti flight saddle to throw on but the wheels are going to have to stay for now, dont have anything comparable to substitute them with. This being my first pre 96' bike not much in the stash that can help. I am totally into the RWB fade paint. While looking online at oldmountainbikes.com, it was my favorite of the bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Speaking of that... I have an 18" '82 Everest with bi-plane fork and fillet-brazed bullmoose that I'd trade for a 20 or 21"... or something else equally cool.
    Even though Girl on bike thinks Tom made about a Gazillion or so of these bikes (I think she is stretching it a bit ), these early Everest's are tough to find (I looked for a long time before I found mine), especially in the smaller sizes . Do you have pictures? Sounds like a great project.

    Even if Tom could average a production level that reached up to two bikes a day, there are still only about 264 business days in a year.

    My friend was giving me a hard time, how many Ritchey's can one have before one is considered off the deep end?

    I always thought;

    1 early Everest
    1 Annapura
    1 Team Comp
    1 Super Comp
    1 Fillet brazed P series
    1 Plexus

    Would be just right.....

    No doubt A Commando would be cool too...Well that and possibly a dirt drop TimberComp with rollercams front and rear.....

    Sigh

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