Official Slingshot Bikes Thread - Page 2- Mtbr.com
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 201 to 400 of 842
  1. #201
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    Finally!

    So I finally found a mid 90's Slingshot! I used to ride this exact frame back in the day before I stopped riding and sold my bike. I've been kicking myself ever since and have been searching high and low for a reasonably priced replacement. I finally found it on MTBR and it arrived a few weeks ago with a fresh paint job and re-fabbed board and spring.

    I'm in the process of building it up into a mixture of "Michigan Bike" with Nuke Proof bar and hubs, Velocity rims and cage (which are made in Australia but distributed in Grand Rapids) and "Period Correct Slingshot Team Bike" from when Scott Quiring and those guys were still racing for Slingshot. I was in total awe of them when I used to race. When I get this thing done it will be my dream bike from 1994. If anyone has old Syncros/Onza/Paul stuff lying around that they want to get rid of, drop me a line.

    I also know that the stickers and fork are not quite right. The frame is 93/94 (with the 1" steerer and 31.8 seat tube) but has the later stickers on it. The fork is also from the suspension adjusted slings and I don't think the frame is. If anyone has a non-suspension adjusted fork or slingsHOT stickers they don't need please drop me a line as well. Thanks!

  2. #202
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    oops.

    I guess i screwed up the pictures. Lets try this again.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  3. #203
    MONKEYMAN
    Reputation: finger51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    791
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    I guess i screwed up the pictures. Lets try this again.
    Nice. Can you upload a close up of the flex board? Looks great!
    “I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there”

  4. #204
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    691
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    So I finally found a mid 90's Slingshot! I used to ride this exact frame back in the day before I stopped riding and sold my bike. I've been kicking myself ever since and have been searching high and low for a reasonably priced replacement. I finally found it on MTBR and it arrived a few weeks ago with a fresh paint job and re-fabbed board and spring.

    I'm in the process of building it up into a mixture of "Michigan Bike" with Nuke Proof bar and hubs, Velocity rims and cage (which are made in Australia but distributed in Grand Rapids) and "Period Correct Slingshot Team Bike" from when Scott Quiring and those guys were still racing for Slingshot. I was in total awe of them when I used to race. When I get this thing done it will be my dream bike from 1994. If anyone has old Syncros/Onza/Paul stuff lying around that they want to get rid of, drop me a line.

    I also know that the stickers and fork are not quite right. The frame is 93/94 (with the 1" steerer and 31.8 seat tube) but has the later stickers on it. The fork is also from the suspension adjusted slings and I don't think the frame is. If anyone has a non-suspension adjusted fork or slingsHOT stickers they don't need please drop me a line as well. Thanks!
    I only have one set of stickers left. They are the correct ones as my frame is the yellow also. They could be scanned though. I would not mind a couple more sets myself.

  5. #205
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Quote Originally Posted by sylvain
    Here's one in MBA Feb '92 - nice!:


    We need to get this going again...Anybody around from the old Speed Merchant shop out of Rockford MI? Mid 90's they had one of these hanging around. A guy named Popcorn Joe owned it and left it with the shop to sell. I had a standing bid, problem was the shop had no idea of where/how to contact him...anybody have one of those steel rear triangle/Ti boom-tube frames?

  6. #206
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by 993rs
    We need to get this going again...Anybody around from the old Speed Merchant shop out of Rockford MI? Mid 90's they had one of these hanging around. A guy named Popcorn Joe owned it and left it with the shop to sell. I had a standing bid, problem was the shop had no idea of where/how to contact him...anybody have one of those steel rear triangle/Ti boom-tube frames?

    No, but I'd still like one.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  7. #207
    MONKEYMAN
    Reputation: finger51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    791
    Hi Everybody~

    That pic of the Ti slingshot got me thinking that Scott Quiring would probably know what was up with that frame. I shot off an email to him the other day citing this thread- here is his response:
    While I am not 100% sure, I believe there was only one ti slingshot like that made by Mike Ausburger in around 1990 or 1991. The last place I saw that frame was at Wild Rose in Salt Lake City Utah in 1992 and the shop owner was riding it (not sure of his name though). Then starting in about '93, Mark Groendal, the inventor of the Slingshot, I believe had Titus in Arizona make several titanium slingshot road bikes and mountain bikes (The production of steel framed Slingshots still remained manufactured by Greendale Bicyle Co., in Grand Rapids Michigan, however) The Titus built Slingshots had a distinctively larger diameter boom tube when compared to the Ausburger frame, if I recall correctly. A few rear ends where made by Titus but ultimately I can't remember if they became popular or not. Marten Stenger, a top NORBA pro at that time, successfully raced a Slingshot that had a Titanium boom tube mated to a True Temper 4130 steel rear end on that national racing circuit. Respectfully Submitted--Scott Quiring
    pretty interesting history no?
    “I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there”

  8. #208
    Let me ask my wife
    Reputation: HoSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    357
    Quote Originally Posted by felixdelrio
    Just finished my 91 Sling ...

    Tech specs:

    Frame True Temper OX
    Fork Straight leg, Cro-Moly
    Rear Shock NA
    Rims Mavic Energy M6
    Hubs Bullseye
    Spokes Stainless Steel, Sapim
    Tires Michelin Hilite Hot
    Pedals Shimano Deore XT
    Crank Grafton Joystix, Cook Bros. & Sugino chainrings
    Chain Shimano HG91
    Rear Cogs Shimano Dura Ace 13-23 7 speed cassette
    Bottom Bracket Edco Competition
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore XT
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT
    Shifters Shimano Deore XT STI
    Handlebars Tange Prestige
    Stem Cro-Moly
    Headset Shimano Deore XT
    Brake set Shimano Deore XT
    Brake levers Shimano Deore XT SLR 2 finger
    Saddle Selle Italia Turbo Lite
    Seat Post Shimano Deore XT
    Colors Black
    Size 19" c-c
    Sweet ride you have there. Well done.
    “Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of riding a bike.” John F. Kennedy

  9. #209
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    Refabed Flex Board and Pro Action Downtube

    Here are some pictures someone requested of the new flex board:

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_0204.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_0204.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_0203.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_0203.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_0202.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_0202.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    Also here are a few pictures of the Pro Action Downtube people were talking about a while ago. I can't seem to find the aluminum tube that fit between these two parts but its around somewhere. I'm sure you can all imagine a hollow aluminum tube about as long as a downtube. The red thing is an elastomer that would be placed directly below the coil spring assembly and the aluminum disk would fit around the bottom of the cable above where it meets the bottom bracket shell. The misplace aluminum tube would fit between these two parts. The elastomer is now of course, hard as a rock.

    Here's a few pictures:
    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_0211.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_0211.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_0209.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_0209.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

  10. #210
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    691
    I will try and get off my butt and post a pic of my Pro-Action downtube...........

  11. #211
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Finally dust off my Slingshot project bike I'd done year and a half ago and took some pics. Its a 91 model, 19" frame with flate not slope top tube. AMP forks will add a nice touch to Slinshot lines. Thought I share the built with you all. I have seen a late 90's Slingshot frame with Lefty fork that look vary trick.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by fjyang; 03-21-2008 at 07:21 PM.

  12. #212
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    Dang...

    A little "modern" for my taste (a 90's frame with very new parts just seems weird to me) but shoot....That bike makes a statement for sure.

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=1067Trials_bike.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/1067Trials_bike.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

  13. #213
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    17

    Slingshot repaint

    Hi guys, I just picked up a slingshot frame and am looking forward to building it up once I source some more tasty parts. I have aquestion about the paint though. On the front its not too bad but the rear is quite chipped, some chainslap paint loss and some around the brakes etc. Whats the best way to go about getting this repainted? Can I unbolt the flexboard ?
    I had intended to try to patch the chips up but there are so many little chips its starting to look a bit tatty. I love the original fire engine red colour though.
    Thanks for any advice.

  14. #214
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by stevet1
    Hi guys, I just picked up a slingshot frame and am looking forward to building it up once I source some more tasty parts. I have aquestion about the paint though. On the front its not too bad but the rear is quite chipped, some chainslap paint loss and some around the brakes etc. Whats the best way to go about getting this repainted? Can I unbolt the flexboard ?
    I had intended to try to patch the chips up but there are so many little chips its starting to look a bit tatty. I love the original fire engine red colour though.
    Thanks for any advice.
    You might be able to take the bolts out, but you can't separate the board from the frame. Its epoxied in place. Remove the bolts, mask off the board.

    You'd paint this frame like you would any other bike frame beyond that.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  15. #215
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    17
    Okay I guess I thought some paint finishes are 'cured' in an oven, might this not damage the epoxy or the board itself? Are some paint techniques more suitable than others? For instance I know powdercoating relies on melting the paint onto the frame by heating to around 370 F...

  16. #216
    MONKEYMAN
    Reputation: finger51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    791
    Quote Originally Posted by stevet1
    Okay I guess I thought some paint finishes are 'cured' in an oven, might this not damage the epoxy or the board itself? Are some paint techniques more suitable than others? For instance I know powdercoating relies on melting the paint onto the frame by heating to around 370 F...
    This is correct. you might have to pass on the powdercoat and go with wet paint. I'd also suggest sand or glass bead blast to remove the old paint, being careful around the scotch board.
    “I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there”

  17. #217
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
    This is correct. you might have to pass on the powdercoat and go with wet paint. I'd also suggest sand or glass bead blast to remove the old paint, being careful around the scotch board.

    Yep, I went with wet paint on mine.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  18. #218
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    [QUOTE=jacdykema]A little "modern" for my taste (a 90's frame with very new parts just seems weird to me) but shoot....That bike makes a statement for sure.

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.



    No part is period correct (heck I don't and still don't know what part is available back in 91) on my Slingshot as it was my first bike put together from ground up and just gettting the fork to fit a 1" steer tube is nightmare. It might put the die hard Slingshot owners off but I was after the overall aesthetics then anything else. One of a kind ride for sure

  19. #219
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    [QUOTE=fjyang]
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    A little "modern" for my taste (a 90's frame with very new parts just seems weird to me) but shoot....That bike makes a statement for sure.

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.



    No part is period correct (heck I don't and still don't know what part is available back in 91) on my Slingshot as it was my first bike put together from ground up and just gettting the fork to fit a 1" steer tube is nightmare. It might put the die hard Slingshot owners off but I was after the overall aesthetics then anything else. One of a kind ride for sure

    I'm not gonna lie. That could be one of the worst looking Slingshot builds I've seen.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  20. #220
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    I could do worse I'm just approaching this retro thing in the opposit direction. I'm still trying to figure out ways to make it "worse"
    Attached Images Attached Images

  21. #221
    velocipede technician
    Reputation: hollister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    8,876
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I could do worse I'm just approaching this retro thing in the opposit direction. I'm still trying to figure out ways to make it "worse"
    BOTM right there!
    looking for 20-21" P team

  22. #222
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    BOTM right there!
    Haha, no doubt.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  23. #223
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I could do worse I'm just approaching this retro thing in the opposit direction. I'm still trying to figure out ways to make it "worse"
    Haha!

    I haven't figured out if I like your hideous efforts or if you should be banned forever.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  24. #224
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Haha!

    I haven't figured out if I like your hideous efforts or if you should be banned forever.
    Don't egg him on! Who knows what the next incarnation will look like!

    Just calmly explain to him the inherent coolness of old Syncros/Suntour/Continental/stuff and that Slingshots were born to have rigid forks.

  25. #225
    mtbr member
    Reputation: felixdelrio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    137
    OMG ... stop that, please.
    purveyor of leftfield brands

    Pablo Picasso: "Good taste is the enemy of creativity"

  26. #226
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    I call my first Slingshot version City Slinger and the second version Bat Mo Sling. I'm working on third version, give me couple of month and I'll draft a Lefty on there and a Shockster suspension on back end haha :-)

    I do need a crash course on Vintage Parts, any links to self educate?

  27. #227
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    Links

    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I call my first Slingshot version City Slinger and the second version Bat Mo Sling. I'm working on third version, give me couple of month and I'll draft a Lefty on there and a Shockster suspension on back end haha :-)

    I do need a crash course on Vintage Parts, any links to self educate?
    This place is as good as any. Being somewhat familiar with the brands of the 89's-90's helps but you can pick up a lot from the people on this forum, either by asking questions or just reading other people's issues, opinions, etc. It seems like many on here either own/owned/or work/worked in shops and are a great source of info. They've been an huge help to me as I get into this stuff. That's a really cool frame by the way. I always liked how the 91's looked with the flat top tube. It should treat you well.

  28. #228
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    and that Slingshots were born to have rigid forks.

    They really were.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  29. #229
    'Calm Down'
    Reputation: GrumpyOne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    849

    Slingshot BigShot #1

    Finally got this prototype Slingshot 29er together. It was the first 29er Slingshot made (back around 2001). I found it last year through one of the past owners of Slingshot. The paint was pretty beat, so I had it refurbished in the same color/fade scheme as the first Slingshot I owned back in 1991. It's a geared frame, but it's currently setup with a White Ind. ENO hub for single speed use.

    Build:
    - 18" Slingshot BigShot #1
    - Slingshot 440mm Rigid disk fork
    - Kind headset
    - King front hub and White Ind. ENO rear hub laced with Sapim spokes to Stan's Arch rims.
    - Avid BB7 disks w/ XTR levers
    - XTR m952 cranks w/Boone 34t spider-less ring.
    - Groovy Luv Handles w/ ESI grips
    - Thomson Stem
    - Easton Carbon seatpost (Temporary until correct offset is determined.)
    - Fizik Gobi saddle

    It's not particularly vintage, but it is meaningful in the time line of Slingshot bikes. Now if the trails around here would just thaw and dry out...

    jw
    Attached Images Attached Images
    -

    "And single-speeding 29ers are mountain biking's equivalent of Scientologists..." - Captain Dondo

  30. #230
    MONKEYMAN
    Reputation: finger51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    791
    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    Finally got this prototype Slingshot 29er together. ...
    It's not particularly vintage, but it is meaningful in the time line of Slingshot bikes. Now if the trails around here would just thaw and dry out...

    jw
    REALLY LIKE! Great fade. very clean.
    “I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there”

  31. #231
    mtbr member
    Reputation: ScottyMTB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    936
    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook
    ScottMTB's Sling is now my Sling

    Enjoy



    Frame: 1994 Slingshot (so I'm told by the former owner, the serial ## is illegible. Year seems to meet all the 'tells' for Slingshots).
    Fork: Rock Shox / Specialized Judy FSX
    Rims: Mavic SUP Ceramic
    Hubs: XTR M910
    Skewers: Ringle
    Tires: Ritchey Megabite front / Onza Porc rear
    Pedals: Shimano M747
    Crank: XT Hyperglide - C
    Chain: Sram
    Rear Cogs: XT 8 spd
    Bottom Bracket: UN71 XT
    Front Derailleur: STX
    Rear Derailleur: XTR M900
    Shifters / Brake Levers: XTR M900
    Handlebars: Syntace
    Grips: Specialized
    Stem: Titec
    Headset: Chris King 'rasta'
    Brake set: XTR M900
    Saddle: Flite Titanium
    Seat Post: USE
    Bottle Cage: Ringle
    Place of Origin: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA





















    Winter has decided to show its face, so it might be awhile until I can properly take this out to shred. For now, it'll look pretty in the corner of my garage. Or just about anywhere for that matter :wink:



    Nice job. I love that BW photo.
    Wanted:Nothing. I have too much.

  32. #232
    'Calm Down'
    Reputation: GrumpyOne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    849
    Thanks. The only thing left to track down is a set of decals...

    jw


    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
    REALLY LIKE! Great fade. very clean.
    -

    "And single-speeding 29ers are mountain biking's equivalent of Scientologists..." - Captain Dondo

  33. #233
    mtbr member
    Reputation: robinmiller's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    462
    That is really beautiful..

  34. #234
    csp
    csp is offline

    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    33
    Awesome thread. I am restoring one myself. Think its a 93. Does anyone know where to find stickers? Mine has the true temper sling shot stickers.

  35. #235
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOne
    Thanks. The only thing left to track down is a set of decals...

    jw
    The newer decals for your bike can be found on Ebay, it's the older style that are hard to track down.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  36. #236
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    Stickers

    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    The newer decals for your bike can be found on Ebay, it's the older style that are hard to track down.
    I think the Grumpy One would be looking for the new stickers anyhooo. The frame looks to be at least a 96/97 with the 1 1/8 steerer and the not huge seat tube. I believe they went to the newer stickers in 1995.

    Edit: It actually looks like all that dude/lady has up for Slingshot stickers now is the "S" for the head tube. All his boom tube stickers are gone. You can always come over to my house and scrape the stickers off mine though. Mine is a 94 and I need the old ones (yup, still looking).

  37. #237
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by csp
    Awesome thread. I am restoring one myself. Think its a 93. Does anyone know where to find stickers? Mine has the true temper sling shot stickers.
    Pictures please !

  38. #238
    You down with entropy?
    Reputation: esilvassy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    338

    project photos (about a 93)

    So I have been working on this for a while and had the board rebuilt and re-powder coated back in december. Well I have finally gatheres most of the needed bits to get it built up.

    I have a few photos that I re-sized a bit smaller that I though they were going to be.

    frame and fork


    closeup of new flex board


    some of the bits that will make there way into the build



    I have a bit of work to do yet on the final frame prep ( remove some extra PC from few areas) I also might run into an issue with the bottom bracket as I guessed on the size, but it was gently used so if I need to get something a bit longer I can. Also a some of the items are a bit newer than the rest of the bike but a 31.8 syncros post is a bit tough to find (still looking for an older one but hey sometimes you have to bend)

    Unfortunately I now am being sent off to training for work for 2 weeks so I have to wait some more....

  39. #239
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy
    So I have been working on this for a while and had the board rebuilt and re-powder coated back in december. Well I have finally gatheres most of the needed bits to get it built up.

    I have a few photos that I re-sized a bit smaller that I though they were going to be.

    frame and fork


    closeup of new flex board


    some of the bits that will make there way into the build



    I have a bit of work to do yet on the final frame prep ( remove some extra PC from few areas) I also might run into an issue with the bottom bracket as I guessed on the size, but it was gently used so if I need to get something a bit longer I can. Also a some of the items are a bit newer than the rest of the bike but a 31.8 syncros post is a bit tough to find (still looking for an older one but hey sometimes you have to bend)

    Unfortunately I now am being sent off to training for work for 2 weeks so I have to wait some more....
    Nice! It looks like we're going to have very similar bikes builds. Mine has the Revolutions and Syncros stem (without the hinge though) and Paul Love Levers too. The older 31.8 Syncros posts are a total pain to find. I've been looking for a year. Can't wait to see the final product!

  40. #240
    mtbr member
    Reputation: robinmiller's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    462
    Careful with that Syncros post, if it's one of the cheaply made post-buyout (pun intended) ones.

    The head came off mine after about 10 hours of riding...

  41. #241
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy
    So I have been working on this for a while and had the board rebuilt and re-powder coated back in december. Well I have finally gatheres most of the needed bits to get it built up.

    I have a few photos that I re-sized a bit smaller that I though they were going to be.

    frame and fork


    I have a bit of work to do yet on the final frame prep ( remove some extra PC from few areas) I also might run into an issue with the bottom bracket as I guessed on the size, but it was gently used so if I need to get something a bit longer I can. Also a some of the items are a bit newer than the rest of the bike but a 31.8 syncros post is a bit tough to find (still looking for an older one but hey sometimes you have to bend)

    Unfortunately I now am being sent off to training for work for 2 weeks so I have to wait some more....

    Off to a good start!
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  42. #242
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    I'm probably going to jinx myself with this but......

    I think I'm buying back the Slingshot I sold 3 years ago.

    Those of you who have seen my post over the last couple year will know that my first "real" bike was a 93 Slingshot and that I sold it in desperation around 2004 to pay for tuition. It was friggin sweet and as all "first real bikes" go, carried a sh1tton of sentimental attachments. Long story short, I loved that bike.

    I found a picture of me on the bike today from way back in the day, got all weepy and tracked down the guy who bought it's ebay account and shot him an email. I didn't expect to hear anything back but within the hour he emailed me back and said he still had it (with almost all the original parts) and he'd sell it back to me for what he paid (like 4 years ago) because he understands what its like to sell a bike with sentimental attachments and then kick yourself afterwards.

    1) This guy is the man.

    2) I'm getting back the bike that I slaved at the bike shop for 2 years to buy at age 15. The bike I rode at the Traverse City NORBA's two years in a row, the bike I rode at the Helen, GA nationals (the farthest I had been away from Michigan on my own at that point). The bike that I rode for countless beer drinking/smoking night rides at my shop's fave in town spot. The bike I rode up and down the North Country Trail on summer bike camping trips. In short, the bike I grew up on.

    3) It looks just like Rumpfy's.

    I am so friggin happy right now I want to puke (I also just got home from the bar).

    I'll post the picture that prompted the email tomorrow.

    G'night,

    Jacob

  43. #243
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281

    SlingsHOT decals

    So yeah, sorry about the drunk posting last night, momma always told me to keep my mouth shut when I'd been drinking. I was just super excited and wanted to share.

    Now down to brass tacks, I contacted Slingshot recently about the older "SlingsHOT" stickers I need to make my frame period correct. Aaron from Slingshot sent me the original template for that logo (92-95 I think). I know some people were looking for these as well so two questions....

    1) What's the best material for reproduction decals and where should I get this done? Aaron said just take it to Kinkos but I'm not sure what the best material to get it printed up on would be. Also, does anyone know what this usually costs?

    2) Does anyone need the older stickers. I'm not sure if I should just have 10 or so printed up or if I should have more done. If there is enough interest on here I will print up more and just charge the actual cost. I have no interest in gouging.

  44. #244
    You down with entropy?
    Reputation: esilvassy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    338
    I am in need of a set of those stickers (well a few to future proof myself). I had my wife vectorize a scan of one that I have. I had also found a few places that I wanted to get quotes from, but have not had the time with work going crazy.

    I am in need of the ones with the black background by the way.

    so check your PM


    thanks erik

  45. #245
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    jacdykema, That's a really cool story! What state has it been hanging out in these last few years? Also, that's really cool of Aaron to do that for you and Jason for the board replacemnets. The new owners of Slingshot seem to have embrassed our passion for the old steel that they were not a part of and are going out of their way to help us. I know that in the past it wasn't always that way, so big kudos for the gang at Slingshot!
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  46. #246
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    jacdykema, That's a really cool story! What state has it been hanging out in these last few years? Also, that's really cool of Aaron to do that for you and Jason for the board replacemnets. The new owners of Slingshot seem to have embrassed our passion for the old steel that they were not a part of and are going out of their way to help us. I know that in the past it wasn't always that way, so big kudos for the gang at Slingshot!
    I agree, they really seem like they are back on their game. Also, I hope this wasn't a secret or anything but Aaron also said they had a program for "loyal" Slingshot customers where they would knock off $200-$300 for the price of a new frame for long term customers. I for one think that's cool as sh!t and a sentiment that ought be commended.

    Here's some photos I was sent of the state of the old mare today. She's pretty rusty but I have to say, all the rough stuff on the frame is my fault. I beat the living crap out that bike. I treated her so bad. I don't care though. For how many memories that bike gave me it's pretty much priceless. Not to mention I had the good sense to buy a 31.8 Syncros seatpost back in the day. I cannot find another one to save my life these days.

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_1450.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_1450.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_1451.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_1451.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_1452.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_1452.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=IMG_1455.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/IMG_1455.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

  47. #247
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Spring Sling, finally washed it and took some photos. Built in '96, the usual W. Michigan build. Sadly no longer a XC racer (neither am I), so a shorter stem and mongo risers went on.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  48. #248
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Yellow Slingshots rule.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  49. #249
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Yellow Slingshots rule.
    Is there a bring out and ride your yellow vintage Slingshot ride day in order? I've got mine.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  50. #250
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    Is there a bring out and ride your yellow vintage Slingshot ride day in order? I've got mine.
    I'm soooo down. You guys have to all come to Michigan though. Maybe we could turn it into a yellow Slingshot owners convention too. We could ride to the "factory" (they are no longer made in the US) and get Mark and Scott Q. to come lead a panel discussion. T'would be sweet.

  51. #251
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    47

    Slingshot board replacement adhesive - any experiences?

    Getting ready to launch into a board replacement on an older folding frame. I think I've successfully sourced the Scotchply spring material, but am wondering about the adhesive. I am guessing it is simply high-grade epoxy, and absent any other information I'm planning to try it with the System Three epoxy I have around the house from boatbuilding, thickened with microballoons. Wondering if anyone has experience with what adhesives worked or didn't work for this purpose.

    Of course, the exciting part is going to be trying to align all four independent pieces -- the boom, the pivoting part of the seat tube, the board, and the rear end -- while the epoxy is wet. Not sure exactly how that's going to work.

  52. #252
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by balcs
    Getting ready to launch into a board replacement on an older folding frame. I think I've successfully sourced the Scotchply spring material, but am wondering about the adhesive. I am guessing it is simply high-grade epoxy, and absent any other information I'm planning to try it with the System Three epoxy I have around the house from boatbuilding, thickened with microballoons. Wondering if anyone has experience with what adhesives worked or didn't work for this purpose.

    Of course, the exciting part is going to be trying to align all four independent pieces -- the boom, the pivoting part of the seat tube, the board, and the rear end -- while the epoxy is wet. Not sure exactly how that's going to work.

    How quick does the proposed choice of epoxy cure?
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  53. #253
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    47
    At least 20-30 minutes of working time, depending on temperature. I don't think speed is going to be the issue, it's more the three-degrees-of-freedom geometry. The two holes that the QR goes through have to be aligned at the same time as the boom tube and the rear end are aligned, if you get what I mean. I will either have to build some kind of jig to set it all in, or possibly glue up the rear end of the board first, drill for the QR, clamp rear half of boom tube to rear subframe, then glue and align front end of board. However, I don't yet know if there's enough play in the boom tube socket to accommodate inaccuracy in installing the rear half. Anyway it should be interesting when I actually get to it.

  54. #254
    mtbr member
    Reputation: midget's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    391
    Quote Originally Posted by balcs
    Getting ready to launch into a board replacement on an older folding frame. I think I've successfully sourced the Scotchply spring material, but am wondering about the adhesive. I am guessing it is simply high-grade epoxy, and absent any other information I'm planning to try it with the System Three epoxy I have around the house from boatbuilding, thickened with microballoons. Wondering if anyone has experience with what adhesives worked or didn't work for this purpose.

    Of course, the exciting part is going to be trying to align all four independent pieces -- the boom, the pivoting part of the seat tube, the board, and the rear end -- while the epoxy is wet. Not sure exactly how that's going to work.

    sounds like you are working on a folder?
    i never thought i'd be 43 and living here......i kinda wanted to be a rockstar..." Mark Hendershot

  55. #255
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    47
    Yeah, it is a folding cyclocross model. Circa 1999? In nice shape except that the board is starting to delaminate. It'll probably make it through the cross season, but I'm getting ready with the replacement parts. It's a great bike except for one thing -- the rear brake cable hanger is totally in the wrong place. It is much too close to the wheel to actually clear the cable yoke.

  56. #256
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    17
    Hey Guys thought some of you may be interested in seeing this example of a slingshot BMX. Not mine (I wish...), found it on another web forum by chance.



    Stunning IMO.

    Also I better post a pic of my slingshot MTB as well, its been on the retrobike site so some of you may recognise it from there. I think its a 1992 model frame?


    Happy Trails!

  57. #257
    Old School
    Reputation: Joe Steel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,039
    Another of the 18 alleged 1992 team bikes (sibling to Rumpfy's) built with a Suntour drive train.


    (sorry if you've seen this elsewhere -- trying to clean things up and put them in their proper place )
    Attached Images Attached Images

  58. #258
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Very nice.

  59. #259
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152

    Slingshot Frame Changes

    I got a 91 Slingshot and I love the way it climb but from what I read the flex in early Slingshot is typical tradmark of the frame. I know that from 91-93 design, the top tube is flat/horizontal and later 93-and up have sloping top tubes and 1-1/8" steer tube.

    My questions is did Slingshot ever update the frame design from 93 onward till the current super boom tube models like the Ripper and Fold-Tech models? If I got a 99 or 2003 slingshot would it ride stiffer/betterthen my 91 frame? or I have to get the latest frames to eliminate the flex nature? The top boom tube size looks unchange from 91 till the current models but I might be missing something.

    All help is appreciated, thanks

  60. #260
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    I got a 91 Slingshot and I love the way it climb but from what I read the flex in early Slingshot is typical tradmark of the frame. I know that from 91-93 design, the top tube is flat/horizontal and later 93-and up have sloping top tubes and 1-1/8" steer tube.

    My questions is did Slingshot ever update the frame design from 93 onward till the current super boom tube models like the Ripper and Fold-Tech models? If I got a 99 or 2003 slingshot would it ride stiffer/betterthen my 91 frame? or I have to get the latest frames to eliminate the flex nature? The top boom tube size looks unchange from 91 till the current models but I might be missing something.

    All help is appreciated, thanks
    The horizontal boom tube went to a a sloping boom tube in 1993. The 1 1/8" head tube came in 1995 if memory serves me correct. The seat post/tube size went from 31.8 to a smaller size at this time also.

    As far as the stiffness of the bikes goes, the 1 1/8 headtube bikes will be very slightly stiffer than the prior versions with the 1". The aluminum framed Ripper (the newest model with the super oversized boom tube) will be quite a bit stiffer than any prior Sling but all new Slingshots are made overseas now which in my opinion, stinks. Aluminum is also by nature lame.

    The flexy nature of the Slingshot however, is what makes a Slingshot fun. Its actually pretty stiff laterally and the slight amount of flex you do get, when coupled with the "sling effect" make the bike a blast on swoopy single track. If you want a "stiff" bike, then you should sell me your Slingshot and I can hook you up with a nice new mass produced aluminum Trek 820. That's my two cents.

  61. #261
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema

    I also found a picture of Bob Lawson's Slingshot trials bike. I believe this is the one he won the Nationals on.

    <a href="https://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/?action=view&current=1067Trials_bike.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jacdykema/1067Trials_bike.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    I'm pretty certain that is not Lawson's 93 National Champ Bike (as pictured). Details are fuzzy but I think his bike that year was running a home made handlebar, and those don't look like his self-made brakes either. Anyhow, I remember all of the components that he made himself around that time, and that bike does not appear to have them. It may also be an earlier build of the same frame, as there were only two of them. He also ran the anti-compression sleeve on his cable towards the end - IIRC.

  62. #262
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    I'm pretty certain that is not Lawson's 93 National Champ Bike (as pictured). Details are fuzzy but I think his bike that year was running a home made handlebar, and those don't look like his self-made brakes either. Anyhow, I remember all of the components that he made himself around that time, and that bike does not appear to have them. It may also be an earlier build of the same frame, as there were only two of them. He also ran the anti-compression sleeve on his cable towards the end - IIRC.
    I should have clarified, the FRAME he won nationals on. I guess I just usually think of the frame as pretty much equivalent to the bike. It is the frame he won on though. The other trials bike a slightly different configuration where the cable meets the frame. I used to lust after both those bikes whenever I would see them.

    That was a pretty wild parts mix he had going on in the later years though.

  63. #263
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Not sure if the steel '90s era Slingshots ever went to a 1 1/8" hs. Both my '91 and '96 frames are 1". The larger seat tubes and suspension corrected geometry showed up around 1993, I think.

  64. #264
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by 993rs
    Not sure if the steel '90s era Slingshots ever went to a 1 1/8" hs. Both my '91 and '96 frames are 1". The larger seat tubes and suspension corrected geometry showed up around 1993, I think.
    They went to 1 1/8th but I was mistaken about the date. I know that by 2000 they had switched. 1998 is sticking in my head for some reason.

  65. #265
    You down with entropy?
    Reputation: esilvassy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    338
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    I should have clarified, the FRAME he won nationals on. I guess I just usually think of the frame as pretty much equivalent to the bike. It is the frame he won on though. The other trials bike a slightly different configuration where the cable meets the frame. I used to lust after both those bikes whenever I would see them.

    That was a pretty wild parts mix he had going on in the later years though.
    I seem to remember him hopping around campus on a white front/black back trials bike.
    or is my memory hazy and that was his MTB... I also recall the slingsHOT decal too.

    either way it was fun to watch him doing crazy stuff. nose wheelies down the steep hills over by mc-dorm. Also Bob riding up and down the stairs (4 floors) in the dorm for practice.

  66. #266
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Yeah, I think that was his 26" wheeled bike. It was still built up with a lot of trials specific parts though.

    I'm trying to remember, did he go to Northern Michigan or Michigan Tech? For some reason I thought it was one of the UP schools.

  67. #267
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    Michigan Tech. I shared a dorm room/apartment type thing with him for a couple of years.

  68. #268
    You down with entropy?
    Reputation: esilvassy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    338
    I was up at tech starting in 92. I was the crazy guy in the ME department that wore shorts all year round if that narrows me down....
    Bob's bike was the inspiration for me searching out a slingshot last year. I have been slacking/riding too much to get very far on it but I have to get cracking soon. I have most everything aside from figuring out what length BB I need and a few random other bits, so I should have it together in its first form in the next few weeks.

  69. #269
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Did the boom tube change in size or design from early 90's to the current models of Ripper? I even read somewhere some early 2000 frames have aluminum boom tube and steel rear ends?

    I just want to confirm that if the boom tube deisgn didn't change beside the slopping orientation then the only difference are the 1" to 1-1/8" head tube size from 91 to the current Ripper and Folt-Tech.

  70. #270
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Quote Originally Posted by 993rs
    Not sure if the steel '90s era Slingshots ever went to a 1 1/8" hs. Both my '91 and '96 frames are 1". The larger seat tubes and suspension corrected geometry showed up around 1993, I think.
    '93 marked the standardization of the rear triangle on all sizes. As the frame size increased so did the length of the seat, top, and head tubes. I'm not sure about the suspension correction. I have three '93 models and two have rigid Slingshot forks and the other has a Judy on it. With the bike's being set up so differently from one another, I haven't noticed whether they are corrected or not, nor have I checked.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  71. #271
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    The boom tube design DID change a lot. The Ripper boom is much larger, made of aluminum and has a totally different method of connecting to the seat tube. The steel rear end/aluminum bikes are the Farmboy (29er) and the Fold Tech (folding 26"). Both have a different boom tube than the older bikes and connect to the seat tube differently.

    Why do you ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Did the boom tube change in size or design from early 90's to the current models of Ripper? I even read somewhere some early 2000 frames have aluminum boom tube and steel rear ends?

    I just want to confirm that if the boom tube deisgn didn't change beside the slopping orientation then the only difference are the 1" to 1-1/8" head tube size from 91 to the current Ripper and Folt-Tech.

  72. #272
    This place needs an enema
    Reputation: mikesee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    14,690

    My '95 ('94? '96?) Slingsnot racer.

    I suppose the title of this thread is somewhat redundant, as 99% of the folks I've known with Slingsnots used them for racing, cooing endlessly about how fast they were.

    Mine may have been fast, but not under me. It was simply comfortable to ride all day long, and it was the bike I rode in my first 12hr and 24hr races about 14 years ago. In a weak moment about ~10-11 years ago I sold the frame at the Moab fall swap meet for ~$100. I needed gas money to get home from the 24 hour race, having failed to get on the podium and as such having failed to earn a dime for the daylong effort.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...ey=qn8SFngrhd8

    https://lh6.ggpht.com/_Z3iU73Uw_T8/S...s800/sshot.jpg

    Slingshot cromo frame
    RST 3" travel Mozo fork, coil/elastomer and stunningly plush for the era.
    Full Paul red ano grouppo--409 front and Powerglide rear ders, Love levers, Stoplight cantis with Moon Unit up front, Crosstop out back, Fhub, and ultra rare bolt-on skewers.
    King 1" red nothreadset.
    Tamer carbon rigid post.
    T-Gear crank, hard ano rings, split saddle (ouch), alu bar, and ti bb.
    Gore Ride-On cables.
    SPIN rear wheel and WTB primal raptor tires.
    Sun CR17A front rim.
    Original Grip Shift X-Ray 8 spd with 'Scooterized' dual springs.
    Willits 135mm x zero rise ti 1" stem. Wes called it a 'mutant' riding position. Looking back I cannot disagree, not just because of the obscene saddle to bar drop, but the narrow unswept bars. Oi.
    Oh yeah, and those deadly Bebops... I could hop this bike like none other, especially when/if my feet actually stayed attached to the pedals.

    Of all the components listed above, the only part I've managed to hold onto are the red Crosstops, and only the one set.

    Great thread--I especially like the oldest twin-toptube versions. As a raw young frosh at Michigan State U in '88 I wore out my welcome at one of the close-to-campus shops, staring at the twin TT bike in the front window, and incessantly (and geekily) asking about it and pining for a demo ride as I saved my pennies. When they sold it that winter and the new single-TT models came out I was crushed, and ended up buying a Prestige-tubed Stumpy instead.

    MC
    Last edited by mikesee; 4 Weeks Ago at 05:06 PM.

  73. #273
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    The boom tube design DID change a lot. The Ripper boom is much larger, made of aluminum and has a totally different method of connecting to the seat tube. The steel rear end/aluminum bikes are the Farmboy (29er) and the Fold Tech (folding 26"). Both have a different boom tube than the older bikes and connect to the seat tube differently.

    Why do you ask?

    I understand that the current Ripper and Fold-Tech have vary different boom tubes, I ask because i want to know if Slingshot made any frame updates from 91 (first year of the single boom tube deisgn) to the time they introduce the Ripper/Fold-Tech models, besides the 1-1/8" head tube change and sloping top tubes.

    If I got a late 90's frame would the boom tube be beefier then my 91? From picturs that I have seem they're look to be the same size. If 91-2002 frames all rides pretty much the same then I won't bother with older style frames to improve the ride and jump directly to a Ripper if I feel the need.

    I love the way it climb and the inch worm effect is no bull, best hard tail for cimbing IMO but I'm not quite use to the front end beeing so noodlely.

  74. #274
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    If I got a late 90's frame would the boom tube be beefier then my 91?
    No.

  75. #275
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    here is a photo showing a very late model all-steel frame. You can see how it's top tube compares to the current Ripper and Farm Boy's. Not sure if that helps with what you are looking for or not...

    Slingshots3 by Mr. P, on Flickr

    Slingshots2 by Mr. P, on Flickr
    Last edited by fatchanceti; 04-25-2019 at 10:51 AM. Reason: fixed old broken links

  76. #276
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    I suppose the title of this thread is somewhat redundant, as 99% of the folks I've known with Slingsnots used them for racing, cooing endlessly about how fast they were.

    Mine may have been fast, but not under me. It was simply comfortable to ride all day long, and it was the bike I rode in my first 12hr and 24hr races about 14 years ago. In a weak moment about ~10-11 years ago I sold the frame at the Moab fall swap meet for ~$100. I needed gas money to get home from the 24 hour race, having failed to get on the podium and as such having failed to earn a dime for the daylong effort.



    Slingshot cromo frame
    RST 3" travel Mozo fork, coil/elastomer and stunningly plush for the era.
    Full Paul red ano grouppo--409 front and Powerglide rear ders, Love levers, Stoplight cantis with Moon Unit up front, Crosstop out back, Fhub, and ultra rare bolt-on skewers.
    King 1" red nothreadset.
    Tamer carbon rigid post.
    T-Gear crank, hard ano rings, split saddle (ouch), alu bar, and ti bb.
    Gore Ride-On cables.
    SPIN rear wheel and WTB primal raptor tires.
    Sun CR17A front rim.
    Original Grip Shift X-Ray 8 spd with 'Scooterized' dual springs.
    Willits 135mm x zero rise ti 1" stem. Wes called it a 'mutant' riding position. Looking back I cannot disagree, not just because of the obscene saddle to bar drop, but the narrow unswept bars. Oi.
    Oh yeah, and those deadly Bebops... I could hop this bike like none other, especially when/if my feet actually stayed attached to the pedals.

    Of all the components listed above, the only part I've managed to hold onto are the red Crosstops, and only the one set.

    Great thread--I especially like the oldest twin-toptube versions. As a raw young frosh at Michigan State U in '88 I wore out my welcome at one of the close-to-campus shops, staring at the twin TT bike in the front window, and incessantly (and geekily) asking about it and pining for a demo ride as I saved my pennies. When they sold it that winter and the new single-TT models came out I was crushed, and ended up buying a Prestige-tubed Stumpy instead.

    MC
    Great story.

    You should start the journey to replace your once dream bike.

    Slingshots are how I got started into VRC.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  77. #277
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    here is a photo showing a very late model all-steel frame. You can see how it's top tube compares to the current Ripper and Farm Boy's. Not sure if that helps with what you are looking for or not...

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/279580038/" title="Slingshots2 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/279580038_c9d760a17e_b.jpg" width="968" height="1024" alt="Slingshots2" /></a>
    That's a very handsome family you have there!

  78. #278
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy

    Slingshots are how I got started into VRC.

    Me too!

  79. #279
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152

    [B]Post Modern Slingshot Handling[/B]

    First of all I want to state the point that I know its blasphemy to treat such a vintage frame with modern parts but I guess I’m kind of guy that if you give me a 66 Mustang, I would right away put disc brakes, mag rims, low profile tires, 6 speed transmission, Recaro seats and Momo steering wheel to pimp my ride ;-) I apologized if it hurt some retrogrouches eyes after seeing this bike.

    I just want to share my experience I had with my Slingshot handling and riding wise. This 91-92 Slingshot frame is my first project bike since I got into mtb and to cut to the point I was not impress with the nervousness and noodlely nature of how the bike handles and a twitchy feedback at the bars that I lost all confidence when going into corners or tackling the trails at any descent speed. If you twist the handlebar left to right in quick successions you can literally see the top tube flex side to side. It left me such a unpleasant memory that after three rides since I put the bike together, it sat in the corner of my garage for almost two years before I come back to it while I was working on other bike project.

    I suspect few things for the handling: 1” steer tube, AMP fork, nature of the early sling frame or stem/bar set up to caused such a twitchy bike. When I clamp the front tire with my legs and twist the bars side to side, there’s almost a 1” of deflection. Some suggest replacing the Amp fork with rigid fork but after research I realized early rigid forks have small diameter tubes/stanchions that it won’t improved the handling of the bike except the retro look.

    There’s nothing I can do with 1” steer tube or nature of the frame so I tackle the fork first by getting V brake clamps from AMP but only installed a Salsa booster to increase rigidity of the fork. Then I replaced my original 120mm stem/560mm bar combo with a modern but short 90mm Deda stem and 630mm wide Syntace bar. I was amazed how much these two change affect the handling of my bike. The short stem wide bar set up slows down the steering inputs/feedbacks and the Salsa booster give about 25% more rigidity to the fork. This old shot can actually hang with my buddies on much more capable bikes now. There is still flex from the frame but the bar/stem and fork will not amplified the effect anymore. The flex is also much tone down and under control so you're not afraid to push the handling & limitation of this vintage frame compare to before. What I learn is that setup is critical, just changing one spring rate on the AMP fork impact the ride quality.

    One thing I like to mention is that even with the AMP F4 3.25” travel fork it does not seem to alter the geometry of the bike as one can see from the horizontal top boom tube. Do they have suspension corrected frames back in 91-92? Or AMP forks by nature does not alter the geometry as much as traditional telescopic forks.

    I can’t image riding the same bike with original 91 set up of 130-150mm stem with 540-560mm bars and flexi rigid fork that I seen from past articles of bike magazine. If you’re experiencing a similar issues on your Slingshots I highly recommended you to go with a 100mm or shorter stem, 600mm or longer bars and a fork brace or booster even on rigid fork to rectified the flexi nature of the older Slingshots, especially the larger frames with longer top tubes. The problem is finding retro parts that fit those dimensions. Cheers.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by fjyang; 12-04-2008 at 05:06 AM.

  80. #280

    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    2,039
    that's pretty sweet! The HOOVER definately approves
    Last edited by stan4bikes; 12-04-2008 at 12:18 AM.

  81. #281
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    that's pretty sweet! The HOOVER defintaly approves

    You approve of the brake stiffener on the bike with disc brakes?
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  82. #282

    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    2,039

    KMA Rumpfy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You approve of the brake stiffener on the bike with disc brakes?
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

  83. #283
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    You approve of the brake stiffener on the bike with disc brakes?

    Haha Rumpfy I know you'll have something to say about my bike but appreciated your restraint knowing how hard core of a retro guy you are. Trust me, the brake booster helps! even if you put it on a vintage rigid fork. Its just a extra piece of brace to resist twisting. You can put it on when riding and take it off when taking pictures of your bike to keep it "vintage"
    Especially with Slingshots, every bit of rigidity increase the enjoyment of the ride.
    Last edited by fjyang; 12-04-2008 at 01:03 AM.

  84. #284
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

    Thanks for the comments HOOVER! I guess you know AMP forks pretty well. Can't agreed more that AMP fork flex a lot!! the F4 already have larger stanchions then the F3-F2's so the only thing I can do is brace it. I choose AMP cause their the only vintage era guys that still support their stuff and they still willing to replace a 1-1/8" steer tube for a 1" threaded for the older frames. I live in SoCal so sometimes I just drop by AMP office and talk with Brion who was around when AMP still buit bikes and pick up different springs or shims to fine tune my fork. Not many company still support their vintage stuff long after they stop building bikes.
    Last edited by fjyang; 12-04-2008 at 01:06 AM.

  85. #285
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    It left me such a unpleasant memory that after three rides since I put the bike together, it sat in the corner of my garage
    You missed the point completely. It's a Slingshot. You have to acclimate to them and three rides is not enough time in the saddle. The bike is way too big for you and a 1" steerer has never been a problem on any bike. A rigid fork will make a big difference.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  86. #286
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    The bike is way too big for you
    F'real. That saddle should not be sitting on the boom tube like that. That might explain why you think such a short stem feels good on it. You need an 18".

  87. #287
    Certified Bike Junkie
    Reputation: muddybuddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1,747
    Could you post a picture of the front brake mounting please. Just curious how you mounted the caliper to an AMP mount.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

  88. #288
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    Could you post a picture of the front brake mounting please. Just curious how you mounted the caliper to an AMP mount.

    Its a home made bracket, I have to use two adapters to get the calipers to the right position, one IS 185mm and one post mount 203mm adapter. The rotor size is 180mm 7". Its nice to have bounch of adapters laying around when tackling these kinds of experiments. Rear adapter is from Specialized for its own FSR bikes of early 2000.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by fjyang; 12-04-2008 at 06:26 PM.

  89. #289
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    F'real. That saddle should not be sitting on the boom tube like that. That might explain why you think such a short stem feels good on it. You need an 18".
    The saddle position moved, it should be in the middle which is how I ride. The frame is on the big side for me. At 6' tall with 32" inseam I have no problem riding it but I was piss at the previous owner who say he use to race for Slingshots told me the bike is a 19" frame. Yeah right.... its 19" to top of top tube, its 21" to top of seat tube so its a L-XL frame by current standards. The frame fit me like a what a road bike should, just that flat top tube don't have much clearance for my crown jewels ;-)

    Anybody wants to trade Slingshot frames?

  90. #290
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    This is a Slingshot pic I found from a guy selling Lefty Adapters on ebay and its also the dream Slingshot I like to built. I'd already have the Lefty fork, 1-1/8" adapters and lefty hub laced to Rolf Dolomite rims. I just can't find Slingshot 18" size with 1-1/8" steer tube frame for the past year or so for this project. If you have one that you're willing to part with please let me know or if you like my 91 flat top tube frame, a trade is even possible.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by fjyang; 12-07-2008 at 11:51 PM.

  91. #291
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

    Yeah I read that. Its still kinda funny to me.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  92. #292
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Haha Rumpfy I know you'll have something to say about my bike but appreciated your restraint knowing how hard core of a retro guy you are. Trust me, the brake booster helps! even if you put it on a vintage rigid fork. Its just a extra piece of brace to resist twisting. You can put it on when riding and take it off when taking pictures of your bike to keep it "vintage"
    Especially with Slingshots, every bit of rigidity increase the enjoyment of the ride.

    Hey, not my cup of tea, but build it how you like it.

    I will agree with others in that the frame is a size too big for you. And you're right about flex. All sorts of it on those things. Rigid forks make the overall ride of Slingshots much better IMHO.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  93. #293
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Fillet-brazed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    7,696
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    I was commenting on the entire build.

    He did it to stiffen the fork, dumbazz. AMP forks do have some flex to them and he thinks it helps reduce it. Maybe you've noticed most suspension forks have a built in bridge/stiffener/brace. Even if they are disc only. Besides, it barely shows.

    hmmm. "KMA"? "Dumbazz"?

    not that I'm keeping tabs, but that's gotta be the rudest post I've ever seen on this forum. Slightly odd that it comes from the guy that frequently complains about snobbery and rudeness.

    That brace is designed to counter the spreading of brake posts while braking. In that particular application it sure isn't doing much of anything..

  94. #294

    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    2,039
    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    hmmm. "KMA"? "Dumbazz"?

    not that I'm keeping tabs, but that's gotta be the rudest post I've ever seen on this forum. Slightly odd that it comes from the guy that frequently complains about snobbery and rudeness.

    That brace is designed to counter the spreading of brake posts while braking. In that particular application it sure isn't doing much of anything..
    It wasn't directed at you but if it offended you I apologize. It was out of character but sometimes stuff just builds up and you've gotta let it out. I don't think it was by any means the rudest post ever but maybe it was one of the most direct.

    I know what the brace is designed for but the OP believes it helped with his problem so I gotta go by his word. Having ridden on AMP forks I can see where it could cut out some flex.

  95. #295
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    What about me? You told me to kiss your ass and a dumba$$. I give you a hard time, but I don't typically call you names. So rude. My sensibilities!
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  96. #296
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Fillet-brazed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    7,696
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    , but I don't typically call you names.
    well, not here in the forum.

    Stan, no need to apologize to me. I was just making an observation.

  97. #297
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    I thought KMA stands for "Kill Me Already" ?

  98. #298

    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    2,039
    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    well, not here in the forum.

    Stan, no need to apologize to me. I was just making an observation.
    duly noted...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    What about me? You told me to kiss your ass and a dumba$$. I give you a hard time, but I don't typically call you names. So rude. My sensibilities!
    No you don't call me names, you're much more subtle .

    As far as your sensibilities...let's see, what phrases come to mind.?......"sink or swim"...."we eat our young"...."learn to deal with it".... "If you don't have tough skin, the pack weeds out the weak"....."Up yours"..."f-off"............pick any 3

  99. #299
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    well, not here in the forum.

    Shh!
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  100. #300
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    No you don't call me names, you're much more subtle

    I take pride in that.

    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    As far as your sensibilities...let's see, what phrases come to mind.?......"sink or swim"...."we eat our young"...."learn to deal with it".... "If you don't have tough skin, the pack weeds out the weak"....."Up yours"..."f-off"............pick any 3

    I'll try and toughen up.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  101. #301
    velocipede technician
    Reputation: hollister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    8,876
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    .pick any 3
    Quote Originally Posted by stan4bikes
    "we eat our young"...."learn to deal with it".... "If you don't have tough skin, the pack weeds out the weak"
    the first being my favorite
    looking for 20-21" P team

  102. #302
    Certified Bike Junkie
    Reputation: muddybuddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1,747
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Its a home made bracket, I have to use two adapters to get the calipers to the right position, one IS 185mm and one post mount 203mm adapter. The rotor size is 180mm 7". Its nice to have bounch of adapters laying around when tackling these kinds of experiments. Rear adapter is from Specialized for its own FSR bikes of early 2000.
    I've never been one to pick apart other people's bikes, but I have to say, that caliper mount looks a little scary. and in reference to the brace, most of the play in the AMP forks should be in the linkages so it doesn't seem that the brace would help, but if it works for you, what do I know.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

  103. #303
    mtbr member
    Reputation: robinmiller's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    462
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    This is a Slingshot pic I found from a guy selling Lefty Adapters on ebay and its also the my dream Slingshot I like to built. I'd already have the Lefty fork, 1-1/8" adapters and lefty hub laced to Rolf Dolomite rims. I just can't find Slingshot 18" size with 1-1/8" steer tube frame for the past year or so for this project. If you have one that you're willing to part with please let me know or if you like my 91 flat top tube frame, a trade is even possible.

    That's a real head-turner.

  104. #304
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Broccoli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    5,762
    How sturdy are the new slingshots. I am looking to get a travel frame, and was thinking about getting something with SS couplers (decent amount of money). Fold away frame looks like an interesting choice.

    Will it handle non abusive trailriding under a 200lb dude. I will run it with some dirt jump fork, as I will reuse my 20mm wheelset..

  105. #305
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    How sturdy are the new slingshots. I am looking to get a travel frame, and was thinking about getting something with SS couplers (decent amount of money). Fold away frame looks like an interesting choice.

    Will it handle non abusive trailriding under a 200lb dude. I will run it with some dirt jump fork, as I will reuse my 20mm wheelset..
    Don't know. We only do old bikes here.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  106. #306
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    I've never been one to pick apart other people's bikes, but I have to say, that caliper mount looks a little scary. and in reference to the brace, most of the play in the AMP forks should be in the linkages so it doesn't seem that the brace would help, but if it works for you, what do I know.
    The front disc adapter works fine, its not pretty but I was able to lift the back end up with the front brake numerous times without issues. Its not a downhill bike unless I have a death wish on a Slingshot.

    I agreed that most of the flex come from the linkages on AMP forks but you can't brace the linkages so you can only brace the legs to improve the rigidity. You have to look beyond that brake booster to think it only fuction one way as it also function as a arch between the two fork legs to brace the two together therefore increase rigidity. I though most Vintage guys can see right away what it is as pretty much all vintage suspension forks have a bolt on brace on the legs and as I recalled there was a pretty good healthy aftermarket fork brace segment during the 90's for suspension forks.

    I only wish I can find a thinker material for the brace then the Salsa booster but there is no way that the logic of bracing two fork legs to increase rigidity is flaw (Magura forks even have two arch/brace front and back). Why not try it on your AMP forks and see?

  107. #307
    Certified Bike Junkie
    Reputation: muddybuddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1,747

    This isn't the right place for this but...

    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    The front disc adapter works fine, its not pretty but I was able to lift the back end up with the front brake numerous times without issues. Its not a downhill bike unless I have a death wish on a Slingshot.

    I agreed that most of the flex come from the linkages on AMP forks but you can't brace the linkages so you can only brace the legs to improve the rigidity. You have to look beyond that brake booster to think it only fuction one way as it also function as a arch between the two fork legs to brace the two together therefore increase rigidity. I though most Vintage guys can see right away what it is as pretty much all vintage suspension forks have a bolt on brace on the legs and as I recalled there was a pretty good healthy aftermarket fork brace segment during the 90's for suspension forks.

    I only wish I can find a thinker material for the brace then the Salsa booster but there is no way that the logic of bracing two fork legs to increase rigidity is flaw (Magura forks even have two arch/brace front and back). Why not try it on your AMP forks and see?
    Again, if it works for you great. But, if you look at it logically, the brace on a telescoping fork serves two purposes. 1) To prevent the fork legs from moving up and down independently and to maintain a single rigid structure between the two legs. a problem that the AMP doesn't have. and 2) To prevent the legs from pushing out during braking when using rim brakes. Since you are using disc brakes this also does not apply.
    Last edited by muddybuddy; 12-09-2008 at 11:39 AM.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

  108. #308
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Broccoli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    5,762
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Don't know. We only do old bikes here.
    Let me rephrase it then - how sturdy and trail worthy was the old Slingshot - was it an XC race machine, or could it run all over the mountain given the opportunity?

    What was the typical failure mode, if it ever failed - pivot? Cable? Chainstays?

  109. #309
    ARCHQUEST
    Reputation: fjyang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    152
    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Let me rephrase it then - how sturdy and trail worthy was the old Slingshot - was it an XC race machine, or could it run all over the mountain given the opportunity?

    What was the typical failure mode, if it ever failed - pivot? Cable? Chainstays?

    Its odd that in this official Slingshot thread with all the sling owners out there, no one is willing to give potential Slingshot owner some feedback.

    My cousin owns a current Fold-Tech model and he have nothing but positive things to say about its handling and did not experiance much flex that was the trademark of the 90's frames. I have the first generation single boom tube frame and its still bombing trails with it when the chance arise. I have never heard a Slingshot cable snap or break nor the flexboard so in terms of reliability or durability, it should not be a concern especially if you're buying a new current frame.

    Slingshots has been and probably always will be a XC bike. I would not use a Slingshot to do drop and stunts or all mountain like you stated. The flex board was invented to provide some give/flex before suspension fork was even use on mtb bikes. Sling design will take the edge off but purely from comfort standpoint, a good modern suspension seatpost or Cane Creek Thudbuster will provide as good or better comfort then the flex board can. But the main advantage of slingshot IMO is during climbing were the cable/spring combo will give an edge/boost if you will, that feel like no other frame on the market.

    Slingshots are a acquired tast, some suggest you to acclimate to them just the way they are or do what I did and modified the bike to fit your riding style and needs. Once you find that comfort zone between you and what ever Slingshot model you choose, it will give you a one of a kind ride and a on the edge feeling (good or bad) that no other bike even come close to.
    Last edited by fjyang; 12-18-2008 at 02:34 PM.

  110. #310
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Broccoli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    5,762
    Quote Originally Posted by fjyang
    Its odd that in this official Slingshot thread with all the sling owners out there, no one is willing to give potential Slingshot owner some feedback.
    Thank you!

    I am thinking about buying this frame as a travel bike that I can take with me with relative ease. I was not planning on jumping or abusing it, but as I have mentioned I am close to 200lb and may ride some rough trails, so construction gave me some pause...

  111. #311
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    97
    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    ...

    What was the typical failure mode, if it ever failed - pivot? Cable? Chainstays?
    In my insignificant memory, the real reasons for failing had names like Tomac, Overend and Juarez. But our hero Martin St. did his best ...

    (:
    Attached Images Attached Images

  112. #312
    You down with entropy?
    Reputation: esilvassy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    338
    For failure issues. When I had my board replaced late last year I was warned about the older style spring holders. Mine is about a 94 and the spring is up near the head tube.
    The older style holder had the base and the 2 wings (the parts that are next to the spring attaching to the head tube) made up of separate pieces welded together. The newer one is one piece that is stamped into shape.

    Though I have never heard of one breaking they said they would be more comfortable replacing it. I also had my cable replaced at the same time. So the parts should still be available just give em a call.

    As for the use rough XC trails yes, jumps and bigger drops no. I do agree that a fold-tech one would be great for traveling.

  113. #313
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    I've actually never seen or heard of a failed Slingshot.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  114. #314
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I've actually never seen or heard of a failed Slingshot.

    I have, but they were used for a lot of "trialsin" type stuff by one of their sorta factory riders.

  115. #315
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    I've only heard of (never seen) one or two failing but they were the 1991 models and a victim of a bad batch of True Temper tubing, not a design flaw.

  116. #316
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Howley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    634

    Energy Return Bicycle

    With all the questions about SlingShot durability I thought I would let you all know about the last 2 years on the "new" version provided to me by Mark Groendal the inventor of SlingShot bikes a 17" ERB:




    I'll post more on my Bog as time allows- https://cycleidaho.blogspot.com/

    Too bad the 15" version is a bit too small for me:



    Anyone less than my height of 5' 8" might like it.

    I owned and rode hard original SlingShot MTBs from 1986-1996. Mark thinks I owned more than anyone individual- 6 total. One memorable crash that defines the durability was the end of the Cooper Basin Classic in Sun Valley ID.

    Near the down hill finish I drifted off trail and straight into a tree. Although I grabbed all the brakes, braced for impact, I hit straight on just to the right of the front wheel directly on the handle bars. Fully clipped in I could not keep my momentum from hitting my helmeted head dead center of the tree. The flex board loaded up and I bounced off the tree/bike back about 8 feet landing on my rump sitting up a bit dazed.

    This must have looked very funny from the side view. A bit cartoonish in the Willy Coyote kind of way.

    In stupid SlingShot durability "Ghost ride" late night drunk testing-my sling would jump a curb none the worse for ware. (not recommended but fun to see how high it would jump on it's own)

    My weight is about 165lbs-Multiple trips to Slick Rock, Back of Behind, Porcupine Rim ledges at speed, White Rim Trail, all the rest, and yes "jumping".

    While on my first test ride on a 1984 dual cable version on the streets of Fairfax CA I missed the curb driveway transition and fell off on the sidewalk side while the bike skidded along the concrete edge of the curb grinding the cable for about 2 feet. The concrete dust wiped off without marking or cutting the cable in anyway.

    SlingShot bikes were and are raced at the National and International levels. In 1991 they were raced at the NORBA Nationals in Mt Snow VT in the Down hill with a Suspenders upside down fork from Mountain Cycles.

    Any Questions?

  117. #317
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    I owned and rode hard original SlingShot MTBs from 1986-1996. Mark thinks I owned more than anyone individual- 6 total. One memorable crash that defines the durability was the end of the Cooper Basin Classic in Sun Valley ID.
    Hmm, downhiller from Idaho? That sounds familiar. You wouldn't happen to be the guy who rode DH for Slingshot back in the mid-90's would you? The guy that was using the Pro-Action downtube at the Traverse City NORBA back in 94'-ish?

  118. #318
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Howley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    634

    Not me...

    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    Hmm, downhiller from Idaho? That sounds familiar. You wouldn't happen to be the guy who rode DH for Slingshot back in the mid-90's would you? The guy that was using the Pro-Action downtube at the Traverse City NORBA back in 94'-ish?
    I tried that aluminum "down tube" that limited the counter flex and covered the cable. Seemed to work but limited the "feel" of the bike so most riders did not use it.

    Rider was not me. I got the sponsorships for various parts like the upside down fork from Mountian Cycle in San Luis Obispo. Traveled with the "team" (Martin Stenger, Rich Perrier, Mark Smedly, Sara Ellis and the Michigan contingent and east coast riders. (Why can't I remember these guy's manes?) Mark Smedly led the hill climb 'till the last 100 yards where Ned over took along with (Gould?) so Mark got 3rd.


    Europe was a gas. The Dutch national championships were won on SlingShot in the Jr. Class by our host family in 1991. My role was as the mechanic/manager for fun and got to see alot of the world/west/NE and privilaged to hang with Martin-a truly nice guy...Only thing I saw brake was a Suntour XC Pro headset on Martin's bike at the Durango 1990 "worlds". He lined up as NORBA #10 but DNF due to the bottom head set cup cracked around the out side of the head tube. Nice WTB GG head set but the bearing cup was much bigger than the out side diam. of the head tube. The frame was not damaged.

  119. #319
    mtbr member
    Reputation: MartinS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,521
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    I've only heard of (never seen) one or two failing but they were the 1991 models and a victim of a bad batch of True Temper tubing, not a design flaw.
    Yep, I had a 1991 20" model that cracked on all the spot welds for the stiffening plate in the seat tube. Other than that my '93 is still going strong and I'm over 200lbs.
    Best Slingshot survival story was zipping around a corner on some single track and discovering that 20 feet of trail was gone, dug out for road construction and dropping 8 feet onto the front wheel - the bike compressed and unloaded springing me up and back about 2 feet. I stayed upright and still clipped in.

  120. #320
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    With all the questions about SlingShot durability I thought I would let you all know about the last 2 years on the "new" version provided to me by Mark Groendal the inventor of SlingShot bikes a 17" ERB:




    I'll post more on my Bog as time allows- https://cycleidaho.blogspot.com/

    Too bad the 15" version is a bit too small for me:



    Anyone less than my height of 5' 8" might like it.

    I owned and rode hard original SlingShot MTBs from 1986-1996. Mark thinks I owned more than anyone individual- 6 total. One memorable crash that defines the durability was the end of the Cooper Basin Classic in Sun Valley ID.

    Near the down hill finish I drifted off trail and straight into a tree. Although I grabbed all the brakes, braced for impact, I hit straight on just to the right of the front wheel directly on the handle bars. Fully clipped in I could not keep my momentum from hitting my helmeted head dead center of the tree. The flex board loaded up and I bounced off the tree/bike back about 8 feet landing on my rump sitting up a bit dazed.

    This must have looked very funny from the side view. A bit cartoonish in the Willy Coyote kind of way.

    In stupid SlingShot durability "Ghost ride" late night drunk testing-my sling would jump a curb none the worse for ware. (not recommended but fun to see how high it would jump on it's own)

    My weight is about 165lbs-Multiple trips to Slick Rock, Back of Behind, Porcupine Rim ledges at speed, White Rim Trail, all the rest, and yes "jumping".

    While on my first test ride on a 1984 dual cable version on the streets of Fairfax CA I missed the curb driveway transition and fell off on the sidewalk side while the bike skidded along the concrete edge of the curb grinding the cable for about 2 feet. The concrete dust wiped off without marking or cutting the cable in anyway.

    SlingShot bikes were and are raced at the National and International levels. In 1991 they were raced at the NORBA Nationals in Mt Snow VT in the Down hill with a Suspenders upside down fork from Mountain Cycles.

    Any Questions?

    That 15" is a good looking bike. Anybody else have one of these ERBs? Can't find much info about them anywhere....

  121. #321
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    157
    I've seen a frame similar to that one, but it has two cables and springs. The springs are mounted under the bottom bracket. The small tube between the upper and the under top-tube is similar to a grove hammerhead-tube. Does anybody know how old it is?
    Last edited by zingel; 04-14-2009 at 06:37 AM.

  122. #322
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by zingel
    I've seen a frame similar to that one, but it has two cables and springs. The springs are mounted under the bottom bracket. The small tube between the upper and the under top-tube is similar to a grove hammerhead-tube. Does anybody know how old it is?
    Older than the one you have linked there. 85/86 is my guess. The double cable bikes are the earliest of the breed.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  123. #323
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Howley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    634

    First of 6

    In the Spring of 1986 I assembled the first of many SlingShot bikes-and ERB MTB from Mark Groendal designs.

    First SlingShot I test rode was in Fairfax, Ca in 1985.

    Here is a photo as I was ready to install the cranks...



    And my favorite version:



    OT:
    Points awarded for identification of the other 2 Marin specific bikes...
    Photo taken the season this area was designated Wilderness-never to be ridden again-Legally...circa 1990 me thinks.
    Memory not what it was.
    And I only chose to remember the good.
    That was a good ride.

  124. #324
    Retro on Steroids
    Reputation: Repack Rider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    2,974
    Here's Howley at the top of Pearl Pass in 1986.


  125. #325
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    47

    Slingshot cross bike restoration - DIY board replacement

    Obviously this is not a mountain bike and it's not really the right age (1999). The point of the posting is that I am guessing the details of DIY flex board replacement will be useful to anyone else working on an older Slingshot.

    I needed a cross racing bike last year so I got this bike on Craigslist (because I think Slingshots are cool and I was seduced by the idea that the folders will go in an airline-legal case). The race photo from the Livermore cyclocross series last year shows the 'before' condition.



    Anyway, the frame was pretty beat up and the flex board had a couple of delamination cracks. After reading through this thread it became clear that a factory replacement was not happening and DIY was required. So here are the steps.

    1. Checked frame alignment in original condition. Not too good -- the wheels were laterally offset by almost a centimeter. That is, the plane of the front wheel was 1 cm to the left of the plane of the rear wheel. The head tube and seat tube did appear to be parallel.

    2. Sourced a new flex board. As already documented here, the original boards were made out of a fiberglass laminate called 'Scotchply.' Apparently 3M sold the patent and the material is now called 'Cyply.' I got a piece cut to order from a company called Red Seal Electric (redseal.com) for $31. This is the unidirectional version of Cyply. I measured the thickness of the existing board while it was still in place at 0.5 inches. The material comes in various thicknesses; I got the 0.510" thickness. This turned out to be a little thick and needed shaving down -- next time I would get the next size down at 0.495". I ordered it cut to 1.875" x 3" based on measurements of the installed board prior to removal (I worried that I would destroy the board during removal). This turned out to be the correct width, but a little too long. When I eventually extracted the existing board the length was 2.562", i.e. 2 9/16".

    3. Removed the old board. The boards are held in place with epoxy, which can be removed by heat. Thus, I stripped down the bike, removed the cable, separated the frame halves, removed the bolts that pin the board in place, and donned a respirator with organic-vapor cartridges (respirator is not optional -- burning epoxy is very bad). I then tied one end of the frame-board assembly to a workbench leg and pulled on the other end while applying a plumber's propane torch to the rear board mounting sleeve. Eventually after a bit of scorching, the epoxy softened up and the rear sleeve came out cleanly. I then tied the board off to the same place and resumed pulling while heating the front mounting sleeve. This eventually came out cleanly as well. This part of the process involved a lot of scorched paint and epoxy, so the torch technique may not have been the best way to do it. I've heard of an epoxy-removal technique in which one fills up a crock-pot slow cooker with sand, embeds the part in it, and leaves it on low for a few days -- this may be a cleaner way to degrade the epoxy and get the board out.

    In any case, here is a photo of the old board (scorched - it didn't look nearly this bad before I started with the torch) and the new board blank.



    4. Obviously the new board required some shaping. I cut it to length using a diamond tile saw and made the semicircular cutout using a diamond concrete core bit in a drill press. I then shaved down the edges of the board with a Pansar file to get the semicircular edge profile, being careful not to actually thin the board in the side-to-side direction. As noted above, I also had to shave down one of the flat sides a little bit to get it to fit.

    5. I had all the frame parts blasted and powder coated at Maas Brothers in Livermore, CA. They did a great job -- they do a lot of bike frames and understand which threads, brake mounts, etc. to mask before coating. I had them blast, but not coat, inside the board mounting sleeves -- this removed all the remaining old epoxy and cleaned up the metal gluing surface nicely.

    6. Board installation. I used System Three "Silvertip Metl-Weld" metal bonding epoxy (systemthree.com). The problem here was to get everything glued together in proper alignment. The board had a few degrees of slop in the horizontal direction within the lugs, but basically no slop in vertical or twisting directions. First, I clamped the two board mounting sleeves so that they were as exactly aligned as possible in both directions, and glued in the rear half of the flex board. This enabled me to drill the rear bolthole, assemble the rear mounting sleeve/seat tube upper lug to the rear half of the frame, and bolt everything behind the board together. This reduced the problem to aligning the front and rear halves of the frame. I put together a jig using a bunch of clamps and a metal machinist's bench that kept both axles parallel to the bench surface and allowed only side-to-side movement of the frame halves relative to each other. As expected, I couldn't get the alignment any better than the original 1-cm-to-the-left situation, so I glued it up that way, then drilled the two front boltholes.

    7. Reassembly. Needs no explanation.

    8. Decals? Obviously lacking. Does anyone have Slingshot decals?









    Attached Images Attached Images

  126. #326
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    77
    wow... i had forgotten about these bikes!!!
    it seems almost imposible to find a frame for what i have seen today

  127. #327
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    157
    1987

























































  128. #328
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    The mother lode!

  129. #329
    mtbr member
    Reputation: felixdelrio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    137
    Stef ...
    purveyor of leftfield brands

    Pablo Picasso: "Good taste is the enemy of creativity"

  130. #330
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Inigo Montoya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    143
    hammer!

  131. #331
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,476
    Did a VRC'er score this one from the Grand Rapids, MI craigslist?

    The seller said it was going to CA.


  132. #332
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy
    Did a VRC'er score this one from the Grand Rapids, MI craigslist?

    The seller said it was going to CA.

    The Illuminati is everywhere.

    Besides, I couldn't let Stef have all the fun.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  133. #333
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,476
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    The Illuminati is everywhere.

    Besides, I couldn't let Stef have all the fun.
    Good for you! Looks like it has great potential.

    When I saw it pop up, I didn't call because funds wouldn't allow me to get it, but I called yesterday to check anyway... When I heard CA, I thought it might have been you.

    Congrats and give us the down low when you have it in your hands.

  134. #334
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Ahh! I was in the same situation. Was planning to call on it this week when the fundage allowed but apparently even G-Rap, MI isn't beyond the reach of the Illuminati.

    Have fun with it Eric! I love the bikes you post and I love Slingshots. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

  135. #335
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Westy
    Good for you! Looks like it has great potential.

    When I saw it pop up, I didn't call because funds wouldn't allow me to get it, but I called yesterday to check anyway... When I heard CA, I thought it might have been you.

    Congrats and give us the down low when you have it in your hands.

    It was indeed. Another VRC'er was so kind as to pass on the lead and the seller easy to work with. Worked out nice, though I need to choose another Sling to let go of now.

    I'll have to make some modifications to this one to put it right and make it trail ready. Soon.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  136. #336
    mtbr member
    Reputation: sansarret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    95
    Found this on Google book search

    http://books.google.ca/books?id=QOQD...page&q=&f=true
    Attached Images Attached Images

  137. #337
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    276
    I can't believe this is an active thread . . . has anything changed on a slingshot in the last 15 years? no innovation here. Rumpfy is the only think interesting about slingshots and I am not sure they can take credit for that . . .

  138. #338
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    I can't believe this is an active thread . . . has anything changed on a slingshot in the last 15 years? no innovation here. Rumpfy is the only think interesting about slingshots and I am not sure they can take credit for that . . .
    You understand this a VRC forum?

  139. #339
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by mtnwing
    I can't believe this is an active thread . . . has anything changed on a slingshot in the last 15 years? no innovation here. Rumpfy is the only think interesting about slingshots and I am not sure they can take credit for that . . .
    Well, I think the fact that this is one of the oldest and longest threads (that is still very much active) on the VCR forum would tell one that there are a more than a few people who find Slingshots interesting.

    I would take issue with your assertion that they haven't changed but hey, if a concept works and sets you apart as a brand, why change it?

  140. #340
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    220

    Lefty 29er Farmboy

    My latest bike build. I'm new to the Slingshot phenomenon but am already impressed with the ride and performance. It took a lot of work to machine the headtube (especially the internal part of the tube) to get the bonded lefty to fit.





    Cheers
    Murray

  141. #341
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Funrover's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    3,836
    Quote Originally Posted by pete_mcc
    Not sure if it's in keeping, but here's my roadie slingshot:



    Built up with as much quality American stuff as I could find over this side of the Atlantic with the exception of the campa components - well I am European!
    Quote Originally Posted by balcs









    Beautiful!!

    I like the roadie Slings. I would like to try those one day

  142. #342
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by russmu66
    My latest bike build. I'm new to the Slingshot phenomenon but am already impressed with the ride and performance. It took a lot of work to machine the headtube (especially the internal part of the tube) to get the bonded lefty to fit.





    Cheers
    Murray

    Wow Murray, I love it!

    So what are your impressions? Still impressed? If you ever need to find a good home for it, just say the word! Looks fantastic.

  143. #343
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    1

    My New Fold-Tech - recently assembled and rides great!

    I'm riding it to work and partly back - about 20 miles, mixed road/dirt trails. rides very well, and a very fast machine - especially with a 48t large chainring and Ritchey speedmax Beta semi-slicks. The energy return is noticable mostly on climbs, where sometimes I feel the boost. While the frame is quite heavy (about 6.8 pounds for size 18"), the total weight is reasonable - 26.2 Pounds.
    Sorry about the quality of the pictures, I'll try to take some better ones soon.
    Ah, and customer support was excellent - actually, well above my expectations.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-dsc00541.jpg  

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-dsc00544.jpg  


  144. #344
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    While I always like to see pictures of Slingshots, you guys do realize that this thread is in the Vintage, Retro and Classic forum right?

  145. #345
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    220
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    While I always like to see pictures of Slingshots, you guys do realize that this thread is in the Vintage, Retro and Classic forum right?
    So am I correct to assume that what you're saying is don't post pictures of Slingshots less than x number of years old. Could you clarify the time frame in which my Slingshot must be manufactured to qualify for this forum please.
    Thankyou.

  146. #346
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    There's a sticky at the top of the page that outlines VRC. Like I said, I love seeing pictures of Slingers but new bikes tend to not get much love around here. It seems like most people draw the "vintage" line around 1994-1995.
    Last edited by jacdykema; 03-18-2010 at 04:32 PM.

  147. #347
    mtbr member
    Reputation: tductape's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    2,401
    Timeless Design?

    This has to be the best thread anywhere on the web for Slingshots...right or wrong, I can see how it draws in all the new owners.
    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2 or 3. Cunningham Racer.

  148. #348
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648


    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  149. #349
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    I'd like to see them all here. Old, new, mtb, road, tri, it doesn't matter to me. It's not like you're going to see them posted anywhere else on the web...

  150. #350
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    1

    Not knobby, but single....

    Okay, at the risk of annoying some, but since others seem open to it, here's one you might not have seen before. I bought it from Kirk Obee before he went to a national team camp of some sort. I do not feel at all tainted by the association--no matter what drugs I take I don't go any faster. I also have a road folder (650c wheels) that I've taken to Australia, California, etc. Pretty fun, but the frame is a bit small for me to be honest. Anyway, hope you enjoy these. My research indicates this may be the only one or possibly one of two.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-img_2004.jpg  

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-img_2003.jpg  


  151. #351
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    1
    I was looking through may garage last night and found my 84 bmx frame. I still have the instructions that go with it. Just wondering if anyone knows a values to a bike like this?

  152. #352
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    1,476
    Quote Originally Posted by ppkabaar97
    I was looking through may garage last night and found my 84 bmx frame. I still have the instructions that go with it. Just wondering if anyone knows a values to a bike like this?


    Probably quite a bit like most things vintage bmx.

    You might try these sites if you haven't already:
    http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/slingshot/

    http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/...topic=27033011

    Let's see some pictures!

  153. #353
    defender of bad taste
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,600
    Quote Originally Posted by ppkabaar97
    I was looking through may garage last night and found my 84 bmx frame. I still have the instructions that go with it. Just wondering if anyone knows a values to a bike like this?
    Do the instructions say: "If you still have this frame in 26 years you should fish for a value on a vintage mountain bike forum" ? Beacuse if they don't you might just have voided your warranty.


    Thank you, I'm here all week.

  154. #354
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    I don't have a Slingshot myself, (yet) but I am looking. I'll second one of the older posts in this forum about wanting to find one of the titanium or part-ti frames that were made (or at least advertised in the back of many an issue of MBA) way back in the day.

    I saw my first Slingshot at the very first mountain bike race I went to, back in 1987. It was out in the suburbs of Toronto. I did my novice race and then watched the Sport's do theirs.
    Then, when the Expert/Pro-am race started, (the term 'elite' wasn't in use yet) I saw this guy, he was bigger than most of the other guys in the field, (was this Mr. Stenger?) and he was on this bizarre looking thing like I'd never seen before. It had, like, three top-tubes, and no down tube?!?!!! I thought, w.t.f.? This guy's gonna break this thing! Or maybe he already has? There was nothing like this at the time. I thought my Rock Mountain Avalanche, with it's sloping top-tube was very radical. Even Cannondale's stood out like a sore thumb back then. But the Slingshot? Crazy!

    Watched this guy do an excellent race, finished somewhere in the top 3, I think. I went over and looked at his bike after the race. Asked where it was from....Michigan, same place as him.

    I've wanted one of these for decades now, but I've always gotten sidetracked by other bikes that I liked.

    I've had good luck finding rare things. I found 2 vintage Teledyne Titan road bikes, I used to have an ancient Merlin MTB, (with u-brake bosses) that I probably shouldn't have sold. Hell, and I'm playing guitar through an old Supro 1600 amplifier that's nearly as old as I am. (apparently the model I have is very rare)

    What do you think the chances are of my finding one of those elusive titanium Slingshots? Honestly, I'd be happy with any of the cro-moly ones. I just can't stand the current Slings. They are kinda , well, fugly. Never been a fan of aluminum.

    Anyways, I'm looking for an old Slingshot, smaller size. (I'm 5' 7")

  155. #355
    I need glasses.
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    9
    Here's an article that I wrote for my local (BMW) motorcycle club newsletter.

    Last month I wrote about how bicycling affects my motorcycling and this month I’d like to write a little bit about my newest old bicycle. Like many of you I have an affection for two-wheeled vehicles I couldn’t afford when I actually had the time to use them 20 years or more ago. In my case, however, I am much more interested in collecting bicycles than motorcycles. I worked both in bike shops and in the industry as mountain biking was maturing from an obscure sport into a major market.

    As money and ideas flowed into mountain bike design, products showed great variation. This was nowhere more true than in suspension design. The period from about 1990-1995 showed a great plurality of solutions, many now totally abandoned. Though these many designs for bicycle suspension have merged towards homogeneity, it wasn’t necessarily because they were the best designs.

    The same is true for prewar motorcycles. There is an incredible diversity of design when designers are first working things out. Forks, for example, utilized leading and trailing links, girder forks to name a few. None of these really held sway or seemed dominant until some meme swept them aside. How both the motorcycle and bicycle industries settled on the telescoping fork has as much to do with ease of manufacture as it does with the ultimate potential of the design.

    Designs are often selected for development because they offer good initial results. The telescopic fork offered a simple and easy way to get very good results right from the start. More complex ideas that may have had better potential, such as Britten’s girder fork design or the Hossack/BMW designs, were not chosen and developed because they didn’t deliver quick initial results.

    The result of this is that the designs that were settled on early received a lot of attention and money and were essentially engineered around their shortcomings. Many, many anti-dive solutions have been employed in forks, but none of them addresses the simple problem of fork dive or stiction at the source. Nonetheless, the flawed basic design of the telescoping fork has been engineered so well by generations of folk that it’s hard for better designs to approach them.

    At this point riders having grown up with flawed designs now mandate that better designed forks, which don’t dive or bind under braking, now must have these flaws designed into them so that they feel “right” to riders.

    As a bicyclist I am able to afford and use many of the alternative designs from this iconic development period of 1990-1995. Indeed, these non-selected designs are very cheap now, because the vast majority of riders want bikes that use the established technology. In most cases this means telescopic front forks, and either a single pivot swingarm that actuates the shock via a rocker or a four bar linkage swingarm. Now, four bar linkages that utilize a virtual pivot point are becoming vogue. (For more information on these terms please reference Tony Foale’s books on motorcycle chassis design; they apply equally well to motorcycles and bicycles.)

    My newest purchase is a bicycle like no other--it actually has a hinge in the middle. There really isn’t a name for this sort of suspension. Some people call it “mid-suspension.” The story of the design of this bicycle actually has motorcycle origins. Mark Groendal, the inventor, was riding a rigid framed minibike sometime way back in the early 1970s. After a time Mark noticed that the minibike suddenly was much smoother and easier to ride. Mark soon discovered that the tube that connects the head tube to the footrest had broken. This allowed the minibike frame to flex, and the flex in the frame was useful suspension. This being the 1970s Mark probably had that realization while his parents were discussing what an awesome band 3 Dog Night is.

    This led Mark to design the Slingshot bicycle in the 1980s. Imagine a bicycle where the top tube, the tube you straddle when you stand over it, has a short section of leaf spring just an inch ahead of the seat tube. In this case the lead spring is a composite 3M material used in Corvette leaf springs. The down tube, the tube that would normally connect the head or steerer tube to the crankset or pedals, is replaced by a stainless steel cable. This allows the bicycle to flex in the middle and allows the bicycle axles to move up and down relative to one another. The majority of the spring in this case is provided by the stainless steel cable, which is held in tension. Other than this the bike is totally rigid.
    Needless to say, it’s a very unusual design. It actually uses a principle called tensegrity--the bicycle is held up by the interplay of tensile and compressive forces. So, unlike a chair that we sit on, which relies just on resisting compression to hold us up, the Slingshot bicycle is more like a suspension bridge.

    I cannot think of a single design remotely like this in bicycles or motorcycles. Mark’s bicycle company, Greendale Bicycle, that made the Slingshot lasted for about 10 years. Demand far outstripped supply but he never managed to make more than about 1,000 bikes per year. Mark insisted that production remain in the United Sates and that his workers be paid a living wage. A series of supplier problems sank the company in 1996. A Slingshot frame and fork, no wheels or components, cost $1,300 back then, about $2,000 now. These were exclusive and sought-after bicycles. After the original Greendale Bicycle sank the name and patents were traded unhappily and the brand never recovered fully.

    Riding a Slingshot bicycle in the woods is unlike anything else. It doesn’t tame rough terrain like a long travel full suspension bike does, but then again it isn’t at all susceptible to wild changes in pitch like a conventional suspension bike. It’s very accurate and simply smooths out bumps rather than flattening them. It corners like nothing else. I believe the centripetal force squashes the bike a bit and its frame allows it to have some of the lateral “tuned flex” that Honda talked so much about in the early 1990s.

    I don’t think the Slingshot pointed the way to the future, but it’s a design so unusual that it’s upended much of my thinking about damping and rigidity. The Slingshot design, being the odd duck that it is, built a cult following but the bike doesn’t fall into any camp that is mass marketed to. As such, when full suspension became de rugier, it appealed neither to the long travel full suspension masses nor old school full rigid purists. None the less, it has many of the best attributes of both.

    I think the Slingshot would have been superseded by other designs even if Mark had allowed production to shift to Taiwan. What the Slingshot proved is that a radically different design can succeed on its own merits. I ride this bike regularly, because for New England woods riding, for my age and experience, it suits me. I choose it regularly over bikes that cost me more money or whose designs are much more accepted. I think I may be faster on it, but I haven’t timed my runs in years.

    Next year I plan to race mountain bikes in the veterans class in a local Wednesday night race series. Prizes are on the order of an ice cream cone, but the racing is real. For now, I plan to race the Slingshot. I paid out $200 for the Slingshot frame and built it using a soup of bicycle parts I keep for such affairs. These chains and wheels have graced many a frame that’s passed through my hands, but I think I’ll be keeping the Slingshot.

    I couldn’t afford to buy or maintain vintage Triumphs or Moto Guzzi motorcycles and I don’t really have any connections to them. I never dreamed of owning one as a young man, but I did want a Slingshot, an Ibis, a Mountain Cycle, a Bridgestone and many, many others.

    In design, I think, we always go back to our teens and 20s in some respect. Newer, arguably better, bicycles lack something of the bikes I longed for in the past. I can recall looking through the glass at a Slingshot displayed in a window. I imagine I bit my lip and gazed a long time at it. This is something no technology on earth can replace.

  156. #356
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    Nice article, taxonomy!

  157. #357
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Quote Originally Posted by Puguglybonehead

    What do you think the chances are of my finding one of those elusive titanium Slingshots?
    Slim to none. I've been looking for one for years and even in the land of Slingshots (Michigan) I've never seen a picture of one, much less one for sale. Supposedly there's one of the half ti frames in some shop in the Grand Rapids but the owner won't part with it. The steel ones pop up somewhat frequently on Ebay and Craigslist. For your size you should be looking for a 16 inch frame.

  158. #358
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    Slim to none. I've been looking for one for years and even in the land of Slingshots (Michigan) I've never seen a picture of one, much less one for sale. Supposedly there's one of the half ti frames in some shop in the Grand Rapids but the owner won't part with it. The steel ones pop up somewhat frequently on Ebay and Craigslist. For your size you should be looking for a 16 inch frame.
    Ah well, steel it'll be then. I honestly think the steel frames still look the sweetest anyways.

  159. #359
    Clydesdale
    Reputation: thebronze13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    21
    There's a Slingshot frame set for sale on CL here in Vancouver.....$250

  160. #360
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    Its four inches to big for him (and overpriced).

  161. #361
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    8
    i think they made a 20 inch and 24 inch bmx i have 1 of there mountains and one of there 650 witch carries a nice 26 inch mountain wheel with 26 by 1 inch tire and converts into a nice cruzer i think they are both for sale on vancouver craigs the bmx ones are very hard to find i think 2 of the guys i work also have them and one guy we use to work with has a double cable one that alot of slingshots for a bunch of adults

  162. #362
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    Yup. Had a look at the ad on Van. CL. Definitely too big. Thanks for the tip, anyhow.

    Cheers!

  163. #363
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    Man, I've been a long time Slingshot fan and owner (4 or 5 maybe?), and I'm less than thrilled with where this is going:



    I'm ok with the "make them where it makes financial sense to" thing, but visually that just kills me. The shorty stem and headset spacer certainly don't help.

    The last generation (early to mid 90s on) of the made in USA 26" wheeled steel bike always looked real nice to me, but the mix of big tubes, little tubes, all of the crazy shapes and the mess at the top tube/seat tube/seat stay junction now, ugh.

  164. #364
    The Crazy Cat Lady of VRC
    Reputation: eastcoaststeve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,020
    Some awsome bikes in this thread...shame a lot of the pics are now gone...


    I'll post my modest rebuild just to offest that nasty looking 29'er




    before:








    after:









    Steve

  165. #365
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    That there is well within the sweet spot of how a Slingshot should look. Well played sir.

  166. #366
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    525
    Some Slingshot parts that never got any further than this. And more than likely never will.

    DSC00732.JPG
    DSC00737.JPG
    DSC00738.JPG

    Early Aluminum Boom Tube

    DSC00735.JPG
    The future is not google-able. William Gibson

  167. #367
    'Calm Down'
    Reputation: GrumpyOne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    849
    Looks like you've been hanging out in Charlotte.

    jw

    Quote Originally Posted by MABman
    Some Slingshot parts that never got any further than this. And more than likely never will.
    -

    "And single-speeding 29ers are mountain biking's equivalent of Scientologists..." - Captain Dondo

  168. #368
    Lid
    Lid is offline
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6

    New pics

    Here are some new pics of my rebuild.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-slingshots-001.jpg  

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-slingshots-002.jpg  

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-slingshots-003.jpg  

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-slingshots-004.jpg  


  169. #369
    Certified Bike Junkie
    Reputation: muddybuddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1,747
    Quote Originally Posted by Lid
    Here are some new pics of my rebuild.
    Nice looking bike. I'm curious though, why didn't you just use the front brake cable stop hole in the "stem"?
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

  170. #370
    Lid
    Lid is offline
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6
    I have always found the one cable going up (in your face) over and down visually off.
    Seems like taking the long road of two curves in the cable instead of just the one.

  171. #371
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Howley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    634
    Nice head badge...Just found my old one-no longer have the bike tough...

  172. #372
    Harmonius Wrench
    Reputation: Guitar Ted's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    8,254
    That bike has the decal from the shop where I started working- Advantage Cycles, Cedar Falls, IA. Iam pretty sure I saw that one back in the day around here.

    Was surprised to see that sticker on a bike in the VRC forum. Made my day. t

    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Some awsome bikes in this thread...shame a lot of the pics are now gone...


    I'll post my modest rebuild just to offest that nasty looking 29'er




    before:








    after:









    Steve
    Riden' an Smilin'
    Guitar Ted

    Blog
    RidingGravel.com

  173. #373
    The Crazy Cat Lady of VRC
    Reputation: eastcoaststeve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,020
    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    That bike has the decal from the shop where I started working- Advantage Cycles, Cedar Falls, IA. Iam pretty sure I saw that one back in the day around here.

    Was surprised to see that sticker on a bike in the VRC forum. Made my day. t


    Ted, glad to hear the history behind the Advantage sticker...was wondering about it while I was cleaning the frame. So it started out in Iowa, worked it's way to Michgan ( I think that's where the seller was), and then ended up with me on the east coast...cool.




    Steve

  174. #374
    Down South Yooper
    Reputation: Plum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    1,010
    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Ted, glad to hear the history behind the Advantage sticker...was wondering about it while I was cleaning the frame. So it started out in Iowa, worked it's way to Michgan ( I think that's where the seller was), and then ended up with me on the east coast...cool.




    Steve
    That bike was on the Madison craigslist, I think it came from Black Earth, WI..

    Missed it by that much...

    Plum
    This post is in 3B, three beers and it looks good eh!

  175. #375
    Harmonius Wrench
    Reputation: Guitar Ted's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    8,254
    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
    Ted, glad to hear the history behind the Advantage sticker...was wondering about it while I was cleaning the frame. So it started out in Iowa, worked it's way to Michgan ( I think that's where the seller was), and then ended up with me on the east coast...cool.




    Steve
    Yeah, your "before" pic shows the Cook Brothers cranks, and they were a sponsor of the shop team the year before I started working there. I know most of the guys that were on that team were running those.

    Interestingly, there was a guy that showed up at the shop where I work now last summer. He had two bikes in the back of a pick up truck and said he wanted to sell them. One was a SlingShot, but it was kitted out differently than what you have shown here. It was also from around here and was also yellow.

    That was a weird deal, cause he said the bikes were in a barn for years and they were trying to clean up some stuff. At any rate, I was suspicious, so I passed on them because something didn't feel right about the deal.

    I don't know how to explain it, but the guy was sketchy, and I get skittish about stuff that makes my "it's a stolen bike" senses tingle.

    Pretty sure it wasn't yours. I'd recall that Advantage decal anywhere. Had plenty of them on my old sleds.

    Nice score, and I hope you enjoy it.
    Riden' an Smilin'
    Guitar Ted

    Blog
    RidingGravel.com

  176. #376
    You down with entropy?
    Reputation: esilvassy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    338
    Quote Originally Posted by jacdykema
    Slim to none. I've been looking for one for years and even in the land of Slingshots (Michigan) I've never seen a picture of one, much less one for sale. Supposedly there's one of the half ti frames in some shop in the Grand Rapids but the owner won't part with it. The steel ones pop up somewhat frequently on Ebay and Craigslist. For your size you should be looking for a 16 inch frame.
    not to add insult to injury, but when I took my slingshot in for a board resto ~ 3 years back, they were showing my stuff around the shop. The saddest item was a Ti boom tube cut in half just to check out the inside. They said it was done said too bad as it was probably worth a pretty penny......

    On another note I need to make some progress on mt rebuild this year.

  177. #377
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    Quote Originally Posted by esilvassy
    not to add insult to injury, but when I took my slingshot in for a board resto ~ 3 years back, they were showing my stuff around the shop. The saddest item was a Ti boom tube cut in half just to check out the inside. They said it was done said too bad as it was probably worth a pretty penny......

    On another note I need to make some progress on mt rebuild this year.
    Whoa! That is a sad image. Makes me think of an old picture of the Avro Arrow fighter jet prototypes being cut up for scrap after the contract was cancelled.

    I emailed a rep at Slingshot about titanium. He said there is no chance of anymore ti Slingshots coming out, but they are considering more high-end steel ones. Possibly Reynolds tubing.

  178. #378
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Nice build Lid and I like the Revolutions in white.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  179. #379
    mtbr member
    Reputation: SpeedofLite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    25

    Vintage Slingshot ('91? Team Issue?)

    Greetings.

    I'm a newb to this site and thought I'd post a few pics showing the Slingshot I picked up at an auction recently.

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-img_1125_20percent.jpg

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-img_1127_25percent.jpg

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-img_1133reduced.jpg

    From what I can gather from this site and others, I think it's a '91 and possible team issue because of the block letters on the top tube. Does that seem correct? Also, can anyone tell from the photos whether the fork is the Mag 20 or Mag 21? I want to try and restore this machine to its former glory. Any comments or critique will be appreciated!

  180. #380
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Mag 20.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  181. #381
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    My '91 had the spring mounted up at the head tube. I ran the same bottle holder, always came loose.

  182. #382
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedofLite
    Greetings.

    I'm a newb to this site and thought I'd post a few pics showing the Slingshot I picked up at an auction recently.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1125_20percent.jpg 
Views:	933 
Size:	328.2 KB 
ID:	609460

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1127_25percent.jpg 
Views:	731 
Size:	446.6 KB 
ID:	609459

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1133reduced.jpg 
Views:	722 
Size:	369.2 KB 
ID:	609457

    From what I can gather from this site and others, I think it's a '91 and possible team issue because of the block letters on the top tube. Does that seem correct? Also, can anyone tell from the photos whether the fork is the Mag 20 or Mag 21? I want to try and restore this machine to its former glory. Any comments or critique will be appreciated!

    Not sure, but its got the 'team bike' look with all those decals.

    Cool bike!
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  183. #383
    mtbr member
    Reputation: SpeedofLite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    25
    Thanks all! I picked up a Mag20 repair kit on eBay. I'll try to stay out of trouble.

  184. #384
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedofLite
    Thanks all! I picked up a Mag20 repair kit on eBay. I'll try to stay out of trouble.
    Please put knobbies on it and swap out that stem!
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  185. #385
    mtbr member
    Reputation: SpeedofLite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    25
    Will do! BTW, thanks big-time for starting this thread 7 years ago! There are many more Slingshots out there waiting to be resurrected.

  186. #386
    artistic...
    Reputation: colker1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    7,465
    Quote Originally Posted by Lid
    Here are some new pics of my rebuild.
    nice giant poodle.
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

  187. #387
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    Thanks to 993rs, I now have a vintage 1991 Slingshot! I've built it up as a singlespeed. (with the hope of returning to racing, if it ever stops raining here) Using a Dimension fork, so I could go threadless and have a disc up front. (I've gotten to really like them)
    Stem, skewers and tires have changed since I took these pics.

    Patrick
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-red_slingshot_1.jpg  

    Official Slingshot Bikes Thread-red_slingshot_5.jpg  


  188. #388
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Your bike looks to be a '93 or later.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  189. #389
    mtbr member
    Reputation: MartinS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,521
    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED View Post
    Your bike looks to be a '93 or later.
    Nope, it is a 91 (or 92), 93 dropped the boom tube down and increased the seat post to a 31.8. He does have the '93 boom tube sticker though.

    Edit, I take it back, I originally had a quick look and on further examination I agree it isn't a '91 as the spring would be at the bb not head tube. The post looks like it might be bigger too. Pug, what size post is that?
    Last edited by MartinS; 05-30-2011 at 04:34 PM.

  190. #390
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    154
    Guys, I had the Speed Merchants out of Rockford, MI build the bike in the late summer of '91. I had taken a big fall racing one of the Pando series. No mtb or mx racing that summer for me. To help the healing process I order the Slingshot. The original build was Suntour XC Pro/Syncros. Seatpost was 27.2, I think...

  191. #391
    mtbr member
    Reputation: MartinS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,521
    That makes sense, so it is basically a '92 model bought in late '91. I had a '91 and my buddy had a '92, I was trying to remember the differences and I believe spring placement was the main one. My 91 cracked in the seat tube and I got a '93 on warranty.

  192. #392
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    Yup. 27.2 seatpost. Nice size to have, as there are always plenty of options with that diameter.
    Purchasing a 92 model during 91. Now that sounds familiar. My old ride from those days was a 1988 Rocky Mountain Avalanche which I purchased in `87.
    Much as I miss my old Rocky, this Slingshot is a sweet ride. Maybe it's psychological, but it really does feel faster on the trail. I've wanted one of these since 87 and I'm definitely not disappointed. Thanks again 993rs!

    Patrick

  193. #393
    Dumpster Diver
    Reputation: YETIFIED's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,093
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    Nope, it is a 91 (or 92), 93 dropped the boom tube down and increased the seat post to a 31.8. He does have the '93 boom tube sticker though
    Yes, center scotchply to center bb was standardized at 14" for all frames from '93 on. I didn't follow anything after '94, so that could have changed. 31.8mm post, although I do have a small Slingy with a 31.6 post.
    Stuart

    wanted: TA Chainrings, FUNK Big Fork, Bullseye Cranks 176mm,

  194. #394
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    13
    OK, I was wondering about maybe adding some suspension to the front of the Slingshot. I would like to choose something that works, but is still "in good taste." One-inch diameter steer tube does limit the options somewhat.

    I have my eyes on both a NOS Scott Unishock (looks like 1st-gen version) or an NOS aheadset-style Flexstem. The Flexstem is a wee bit longer than I would currently prefer, (145mm) but the front half could always be swapped out for a shorter one later. The Scott fork would soak up the big hits a bit better, but those forks did have a less-than-great reputation. (and the icky neon graphics would also clash horribly with the Slingy's nice fire engine red)

    Either one would cost me almost the same. I'm leaning towards the Flexstem, at the moment. I've always liked them. (and it wouldn't uglify the bike nearly as much as the Scott fork would) I ran a 150mm quill Flexstem on my Rocky in the early `90s and was still passing the Mag 20 users on downhill sections up till the year I sold it. (94, I think)

  195. #395
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    281
    I would avoid the both like the plague. The Unishocks were horrible forks and a lot of them were recalled. Suspension forks also ruin the "sling" effect of the bikes.

    The Flexstems were pretty bad too, I would imagine the elastomer is hard as a rock by this point. I ran a Softride suspension stem on my Slingshot for a while and it was okay. Fully rigid is always better on a Slingshot but the Softride stem rode much better than the many other squishy alternatives I've tried over the years.

  196. #396
    Back at it
    Reputation: storz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    222
    The shop I worked at back in the mid 90's sold Slingshot, always thought they were really cool
    Ellsworth Evolve SST.2

  197. #397
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    Well, in a few hours I will be the owner of BigShot frame serial #1. It's been freshly redone (new board and repaint) by Mr. Quiring and was built by his hands back in 2002. This early frame has non-hooded drops (so I'm assuming the non OS stays), and is non-suspension corrected, but does have a 1.125 head tube.

    Very excited, and obviously pics to come when I get my hands on it later today. This will be my 6th? Slingshot, but no room for the Farmboy anymore.

    FCTi

  198. #398
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    CIMG3520 by Mr. P, on Flickr

    Just a longer piece of rear derailleur housing from being done....
    Last edited by fatchanceti; 04-10-2019 at 12:37 PM.

  199. #399
    VRC Illuminati
    Reputation: Rumpfy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    17,648
    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti View Post
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5982436802/" title="CIMG3544 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6142/5982436802_6570c66331_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="CIMG3544"></a>

    Just a longer piece of rear derailleur housing from being done....
    Maybe shorten up some of the house up front while you're at it.

    Cool bike though! Getting serial #0 or #1 is fun to have.
    -eric-

    http://www.rumpfy.com
    Wanted: NDS Suntour XC Pro Microdrive 175mm Crank Arm.

  200. #400
    -bustin punks
    Reputation: fatchanceti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    670
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Maybe shorten up some of the house up front while you're at it.

    Cool bike though! Getting serial #0 or #1 is fun to have.
    Yeah, it came all pre-wired (bought frame, fork, headset, stem, bars, shifters, brakes and it was cabled up), so I just slapped my derailleurs, some wheels and pedals on at work real quick.

    That seatpost is a monster (31.8) but PO is providing a shim down to 27.2, along with an extra flex board and the top tube stickers from the repaint.

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Official FAT chance thread
    By scant in forum Vintage, Retro, Classic
    Replies: 1346
    Last Post: 12-07-2019, 06:04 AM
  2. A Balfa Thread - figured I'd start one
    By MMcG in forum Canadian Bikes
    Replies: 296
    Last Post: 12-10-2015, 05:49 AM
  3. canadian bikes?? british bikes!!!
    By daveIT in forum Site Feedback/Issues
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-09-2004, 02:54 PM
  4. Official test thread..
    By Innocent Bystander in forum Site Feedback/Issues
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 01-12-2004, 09:56 PM
  5. Rate the Thread
    By george_da_trog in forum Site Feedback/Issues
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-02-2004, 11:25 AM

Members who have read this thread: 33

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

THE SITE

ABOUT MTBR

VISIT US AT

© Copyright 2020 VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.