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    RR,
    This isn't about the grumpy old man act or the nature of the internet, at least for me. You obviously assume none of us get where you're coming from. We do. Plenty of us have been on the ground floor of great things, not just you, and plenty have not received the kudos that some would think deserved. I've done a ton in my industry where I have not received the just reward I felt I deserved but you sure the hell don't see me out there whining because of it. That's what you're doing Charlie, whining.

    You are probably the most well published historian in the sport, you've made sure that we all are aware of that, so I'm not sure why you continue to beat the horse. Your credit is well documented. The issue I have with you is your seemingly fragile ego and your behavior it creates online. Your constant need to let everybody know you were there, that you alone kept score at Repack, that it was you that built the wheels, named the fork, rode Pearl Pass, lived with GF and roadied for whoever. We all want attention. We all want a pat on the back. It's human nature but darn near every post you make starts with I. That's not conversation Charlie. That's you asking for all of us to bow to your past greatness. Yes your connected. Yes you were and are there. Yes you passionately documented the birth and growth of the industry and the sport but try a little humble pie for a change. You'd get a much better response from the masses here.

    Now, with that said. I've never met you. Have no idea what you're like in 3D. I have no idea what your relationships with friends and family are like so this me addressing RR. If I was a betting man though I'd put money on the line that CK and RR are pretty darn similar.

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    Post of the year: Jeff!
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    For you Jeff, girlonbike and Rumpfy

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    Seems like JT flatted a lot. Like all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Seems like JT flatted a lot. Like all the time.
    Even my wife, who came with me to most of the big races noticed that. She even adopted the "Tomechanical" term at one of them - probably Mt. Snow of '92.

    Wait, I forgot ... we weren't really there.
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    Maybe he was prone to riding vintage tires?

    I wonder how many races he lost because of the flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    I wonder how many races he lost because of the flats.
    1990 Worlds for one.
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    always appreciated his fans and a regular guy enjoying life.

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    Look at the travel mark on that fork! Plush inch of travel
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    always appreciated his fans and a regular guy enjoying life.

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    that guy with the GT is darren tapp, who later rode for UK importer bromley bike/evolution imports. firsty for yeti, then later for fat chance. for the UK crowd (where this pic was taken, newnham park, devon) Tomac was exceptionally quick down the infamous pipeline downhill, but for that day at least darren was by far the fastest person down "the pipeline" downhill, purely as his mtn cycle disc brake failed...

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    You don't see many Bravados with disk drives. I love these. Keep them coming! Thanks, Doc.

    Scant, Darren's the guy wearing the stars and stripes shorts?

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    Did he ever talk bikes on interviews.. his ideas on set up, geometry.. the horizontal top tube for example; why not a droping top tube which was the rage in the early nineties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post

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    Wonder what ever happened to that signed wheel?



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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post

    Scant, Darren's the guy wearing the stars and stripes shorts?
    yes, thats him.

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    Couple pics of Tomac at Hunter Mountain 7-31-93. First one is in the start queue the second is on the course with my 2 yr old watching.

    These pics were not scanned from a magazine, they were taken by Mrs. Dude.
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    Tomac at the '89 Tour de Trump racing for Celestial Seasonings. First one is him rolling up to the start and the second is with a young retro dude.

    Again, photo credits go to the mrs.


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    One more for the night.

    This is from the 1987 Ross Stage Race.

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    Max Jones, John Tomac, Charles Kelly, ?, Joe Murray

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    Kudos to Mrs. Dude!!!
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    like most tioga disc drives that were used, either trashed, or returned for warranty

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    nice
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    What is the significance of Control Tech on the rear seat stay?
    I've always wanted to know the connection between CT and Tomac. I believe the CT hardtail I have was inspired by this particular bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    What is the significance of Control Tech on the rear seat stay?
    I've always wanted to know the connection between CT and Tomac. I believe the CT hardtail I have was inspired by this particular bike.
    Probably nothing more than they were one of his sponsors - used their bar ends on many iterations of his bikes.

    He and many racers stickered up their bikes with sponsor logos. Another example in the picture you referenced are the forks - made by Showa but labeled Tioga.
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    Is this the source of the rumor that JT raced a Control Tech bike or is there an actual CT bike that rode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    Is this the source of the rumor that JT raced a Control Tech bike or is there an actual CT bike that rode?
    Probably the former.

    Some on this site know and have spoken with JT and a few others personally know both Tomac's mechanic as well as the guy who actually welded up the bike in that photo. Seems that despite the sticker, decals and jersey logos he didn't ride a Control Tech built bike.

    But that doesn't mean those who got their inspiration from JT equipment, design or style were wrong or on the wrong track !
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    I want to know what was experimental about it? Going from the ti lugged alu/carbon tube bike to what looks like regular aluminium would be going in the opposite direction of experimental.
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    thanks for that info Doc. When I was doing the CT research, I had heard this rumor and contacted JT about it. He said that he had ridden so many bikes in the mid 90's, that he couldn't honestly remember if they had actually built a frame that he might have ridden.
    mystery remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    I want to know what was experimental about it? Going from the ti lugged alu/carbon tube bike to what looks like regular aluminium would be going in the opposite direction of experimental.
    Can't argue with that but I always considered it in the same way as I did test sleds for vehicles that would probably never see production. It was a one-off and if they slapped a name on it perhaps they would have to build at least a few "production" models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    thanks for that info Doc. When I was doing the CT research, I had heard this rumor and contacted JT about it. He said that he had ridden so many bikes in the mid 90's, that he couldn't honestly remember if they had actually built a frame that he might have ridden.
    mystery remains.
    Well post up if you get any further insight or definitive info. Stranger truths have been uncovered!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Dude View Post
    One more for the night.

    This is from the 1987 Ross Stage Race.

    Left to right:
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    That's my kind of photo. Just because I can, here is the poster from the race, where I served as the announcer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Dude View Post
    One more for the night.

    This is from the 1987 Ross Stage Race.

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    Photo credit goes to the future Mrs. Retro Dude.
    That is a cool photo! Joe Murray and I want to say Gary Summers on the Marin team with their super rad titanium bikes. Such a hot bike then.

    I wish I had more photos of JT's '87 bike; there's really not much to speak of.

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    Not a picture of Tomac but

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    blimey!
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    From a new arrival - February 1987 Mountain Biking

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    From a new arrival - February 1987 Mountain Biking
    Cool!

    I see Ned back there...who's the guy on the Ritchey? Almost looks like Sully, but maybe Natwick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Cool!

    I see Ned back there...who's the guy on the Ritchey? Almost looks like Sully, but maybe Natwick?
    Never seen those pics! Very cool. Tomac was some 19 yr old BMXer that came onto the scene and just crushed it.

    Good eye on Ned! Not much more than a silhouette on that one!

    That's Max Jones on the Ritchey.

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    He's looking all business in the 2nd pic
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    Special thanks to Retrocowboy from whom I procured his entire stash of vintage mountain bike magazines while at Keyesville.

    As in the past, although some of these may appear in prior posts in this thread I am still so stoked after racing at Keyesville that I'd rather re-post these than wade through the previous pages.
    Besides, anything worth seeing is worth seeing at least twice.

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    You always bring the goods to this thread, Doc. Keep it up.


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    The last pic is pure thrill..
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    the first and last pic used to hang on my wall... along with all the others...

    and I still want nike to re issue poohbahs!
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    A couple more from '92 Mountain Biking covering Cactus Cup

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    I hadn't seen this one before but perhaps it's somewhere else in this thread:

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    Never seen his C-26 and FRO lined up together. Also, Tinker's General?

    <a href="https://s77.photobucket.com/user/ameybrook/media/tomac_from1-91MCB_zps9061ff73.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/ameybrook/tomac_from1-91MCB_zps9061ff73.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo tomac_from1-91MCB_zps9061ff73.jpg"/></a>


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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Never seen his C-26 and FRO lined up together. Also, Tinker's General?

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    Nice find!
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    One more - cool shot that captures speed:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I hadn't seen this one before but perhaps it's somewhere else in this thread:

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    Love that shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Never seen his C-26 and FRO lined up together. Also, Tinker's General?

    <a href="https://s77.photobucket.com/user/ameybrook/media/tomac_from1-91MCB_zps9061ff73.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/ameybrook/tomac_from1-91MCB_zps9061ff73.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo tomac_from1-91MCB_zps9061ff73.jpg"/></a>
    Yes, Tinker's General. Seems like there is a shot somewhere with that Jeep stuck and JT and Tinker digging it out?? Note the C-26 still has Campy on it.

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    For F-B.
    1986 NORBA Nationals in Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    For F-B.
    1986 NORBA Nationals in Al

    Awesome, but I think that must be '88?

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    Best pics yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Awesome, but I think that must be '88?
    Yep.
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    Ad for the all Ti bikes.
    I knew he rode one of these all Ti bikes in some race(s) in Australia but hadn't known he'd done so in Europe as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Ad for the all Ti bikes.
    I knew he rode one of these all Ti bikes in some race(s) in Australia but hadn't known he'd done so in Europe as well.
    Rare anodized blue Tioga Revolver spider. Should have kept mine. And actually...I should have kept the NOS anodized blue Tioga Revolver cranks I had. Those were a trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Rare anodized blue Tioga Revolver spider. Should have kept mine. And actually...I should have kept the NOS anodized blue Tioga Revolver cranks I had. Those were a trip!
    You mean you sold Tomac-related stuff to someone other than me?

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    Just dropping in to add my .02 cents regarding Myrah's extremely short time on a Yeti. Don won the 1989 Worlds (last pre-UCI) on a Ritchey, riding that wave he was signed a big (for the time) deal with Campy who were looking to make a splash in the mountain biking arena. Campy was sponsoring three teams for the '90 season, Yeti, Klein & Fat Chance. With Yeti at probably the apex of their popularity Myrah was put on a FRO, which is like outfitting a prima ballerina (much like Rumpfy) with combat boots. Yeti and Don could never see eye to eye and VERY early into the '90 season their was a switch to Fat Chance as the only other option was Klein and Myrah refused to ride aluminum. For pretty much the rest of the season Myrah rode a Fat Chance painted/decaled Ritchey.
    Campy ran a two page ad that season featuring all their sponsored riders in a pack and Myrah appeared in Yeti duds. Sorry to say, I've not been as diligent with keeping my old magazines as you guys.

    Back to regular programming, some really cool pics here.

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    So that begs the question. Why a decaled Ritchey and not a Fat?
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    Just dropping in to add my .02 cents regarding Myrah's extremely short time on a Yeti. Don won the 1989 Worlds (last pre-UCI) on a Ritchey, riding that wave he was signed a big (for the time) deal with Campy who were looking to make a splash in the mountain biking arena. Campy was sponsoring three teams for the '90 season, Yeti, Klein & Fat Chance. With Yeti at probably the apex of their popularity Myrah was put on a FRO, which is like outfitting a prima ballerina (much like Rumpfy) with combat boots. Yeti and Don could never see eye to eye and VERY early into the '90 season their was a switch to Fat Chance as the only other option was Klein and Myrah refused to ride aluminum. For pretty much the rest of the season Myrah rode a Fat Chance painted/decaled Ritchey.
    Campy ran a two page ad that season featuring all their sponsored riders in a pack and Myrah appeared in Yeti duds. Sorry to say, I've not been as diligent with keeping my old magazines as you guys.

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    You mean you sold Tomac-related stuff to someone other than me?

    You don't love me no more ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider View Post
    Just dropping in to add my .02 cents regarding Myrah's extremely short time on a Yeti. Don won the 1989 Worlds (last pre-UCI) on a Ritchey, riding that wave he was signed a big (for the time) deal with Campy who were looking to make a splash in the mountain biking arena. Campy was sponsoring three teams for the '90 season, Yeti, Klein & Fat Chance. With Yeti at probably the apex of their popularity Myrah was put on a FRO, which is like outfitting a prima ballerina (much like Rumpfy) with combat boots. Yeti and Don could never see eye to eye and VERY early into the '90 season their was a switch to Fat Chance as the only other option was Klein and Myrah refused to ride aluminum. For pretty much the rest of the season Myrah rode a Fat Chance painted/decaled Ritchey.
    Campy ran a two page ad that season featuring all their sponsored riders in a pack and Myrah appeared in Yeti duds. Sorry to say, I've not been as diligent with keeping my old magazines as you guys.

    Back to regular programming, some really cool pics here.
    At least your one post every other year has valuable info in it. Back to your regular programming of stalking girls on Facebook!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider View Post
    Just dropping in to add my .02 cents regarding Myrah's extremely short time on a Yeti. Don won the 1989 Worlds (last pre-UCI) on a Ritchey, riding that wave he was signed a big (for the time) deal with Campy who were looking to make a splash in the mountain biking arena. Campy was sponsoring three teams for the '90 season, Yeti, Klein & Fat Chance. With Yeti at probably the apex of their popularity Myrah was put on a FRO, which is like outfitting a prima ballerina (much like Rumpfy) with combat boots. Yeti and Don could never see eye to eye and VERY early into the '90 season their was a switch to Fat Chance as the only other option was Klein and Myrah refused to ride aluminum. For pretty much the rest of the season Myrah rode a Fat Chance painted/decaled Ritchey.
    Campy ran a two page ad that season featuring all their sponsored riders in a pack and Myrah appeared in Yeti duds. Sorry to say, I've not been as diligent with keeping my old magazines as you guys.

    Back to regular programming, some really cool pics here.
    Yep, that's pretty much how I heard it. We've discussed that short Yeti period somewhere on this forum if I recall correctly. It'd be extra cool if Myrah chimed in.

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    So that begs the question. Why a decaled Ritchey and not a Fat?
    Because it was a quick change to Fat and Don knew and liked the Ritchey so instead of waiting for Fat to make him a custom P-23 copy he just rebadged a P-23 he bought. There is a good picture of said bike somewhere around here. I would search for it, but the search feature is not that great here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Aww baby, it was before I knew you!
    Even so, Rumpfy still loves me the bestest and all his Tomac stuff goes through the FB warehouse. Sorry Doc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Even so, Rumpfy still loves me the bestest and all his Tomac stuff goes through the FB warehouse. Sorry Doc.
    That's only because you're younger, better looking, taller, faster, smarter, richer, have more connections and have a bigger ....... ego than me!

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    It'd be extra cool if Myrah chimed in.
    Just talk to him for us.

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    Myrah's '90 Ritchey "Fat" & Fat "Fat"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    At least your one post every other year has valuable info in it. Back to your regular programming of stalking girls on Facebook!
    Gotta keep the masses wanting for more. Right now there's a whole mess of newbies going "All this time I've been hanging on Rumpfy's every word and he really doesn't know jack!!!"

    BTW, you still a card carrying member of NAMBLA?

    Truly a wealth of useless information.


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    Some ads I don't remember from my first run through

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider View Post
    Gotta keep the masses wanting for more. Right now there's a whole mess of newbies going "All this time I've been hanging on Rumpfy's every word and he really doesn't know jack!!!"
    BTW, you still a card carrying member of NAMBLA?
    I've got em' all fooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
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    Anyone who can read the caption?


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    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumpfy View Post
    i've got em' all fooled.

    My card number is just a few numbers off from yours!


    Yeah, but you've got the lower number.

    Truly a wealth of useless information.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Who can name the rider on the Klein?
    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Anyone who can read the caption?
    Now that's some funny stuff there!

    Truly a wealth of useless information.


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    bwwwwahhhh haaaa haaaa!

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    Call Myrah just to be sure.

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    A little off track but all this Campy reference sent me to the wayback photo files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    Call Myrah just to be sure.
    bwwwahhhhh haaa haaaa!

    Great picture, Bigwheel! Did you scan any more? Let's seeeeeee them, pretty please please please?!

    I saw your old Trek bike the other day. It's being well loved and well taken care of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Anyone who can read the caption?
    That's cheating.

    DC, surely you have Myrah's number in your "super stalker" book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigwheel View Post
    A little off track but all this Campy reference sent me to the wayback photo files.

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    That was a heck of a rig. It was too bad the parts weren't that fun to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    That's cheating.

    DC, surely you have Myrah's number in your "super stalker" book?
    I thought you said you had guys like Tomac on speed dial.

    I've never met Myrah much less raced against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    You're the one that claims to have Tomac on your speed dial. I've never met Myrah much less raced against him.
    "Fillet-Brazed's Little Black Book of Pros Numbers & Emails"


    Ironically, I actually have Don's email and number. Maybe I can trade it with FB's for Tomacs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    "Fillet-Brazed's Little Black Book of Pros Numbers & Emails"


    Ironically, I actually have Don's email and number. Maybe I can trade it with FB's for Tomacs.

    That particular trade might need some cash thrown in. haha.

    Thread seems like a seventh grade nerd squabble suddenly.

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    Been enjoying this thread and thought I would add in some pics I have laying around.
    1994 Grundig World Finals at Silver Star, BC, CAN
    All the greats were there.
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    Few more, non JT
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    And a few miscellaneous. Missy was awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwangster View Post
    Few more, non JT
    Tinker's stem was quite slammed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwangster View Post
    And a few miscellaneous. Missy was awesome!
    That #5 Cannondale, they actually raced those? Wow...

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    Women's Race:
    1st Alison Sydor, 2. Juli Furtado, 3. Ruthie Mathes

    Men's Race
    1st Tinker Juarez, 2. Albert Iten, 3. Ned Overend
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    For the record, this pic was on the 3rd or 4th lap, of 5.
    JT had cleaned that climb all the previous laps, as had Bruce Spicer.
    All others had jumped off right after the crazy slippery bridge at the bottom of the infeed. At least those who didn't go into the creek.
    It was ugly.
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    Awesome photos Schwangster!
    Thanks for sharing them.
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    That's a nice bunch of photos, cool.
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Tomes, Tink and Ned, 3 of the nicest guys I have ever met on and off trail. Thanks for the pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbgtr View Post
    Tomes, Tink and Ned, 3 of the nicest guys I have ever met on and off trail. Thanks for the pics!
    They really were good guys, and very generous to us groupies.
    And some of the fastest riders I've seen. When they opened it up on the grassy downhill is when I knew that 'we' (buddies and I) were NOT Pro-class. Tomac was running that crazy disc wheel and it made a strange noise going by, like it was ready to blow apart.
    Still remember that race weekend like it just happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwangster View Post
    They really were good guys, and very generous to us groupies.
    And some of the fastest riders I've seen. When they opened it up on the grassy downhill is when I knew that 'we' (buddies and I) were NOT Pro-class. Tomac was running that crazy disc wheel and it made a strange noise going by, like it was ready to blow apart.
    Still remember that race weekend like it just happened.
    Very fast climbers also. I was lucky enough to ride with each of them at different times in different places in the old days and agree with you. Johns kevlar strung banjo wheel also let you know he was coming up on you, FAST. With Tinker he would climb the steepest stuff in his big chainring and still have enough breath to carry on a conversation. And Ned, well he was just the legend, he never seemed to breath hard anytime.
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    Received this photo as a gift from a friend.

    Never saw a photo or magazine pic of a Merlin Raleigh JT Sig with blue decals in downhill configuration.

    Note the Revolver crank (pushed through a set of 6903s?), massive blue spider and 62 (?) tooth ring along with tensioner and guides.

    Cool!

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    And the pushed back saddle. Rad bike.
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    Mammoth. 90-91?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    Mammoth. 90-91?
    I'm thinking closer to the end of '92 when he switched to "blue" parts and decals and then to Litespeed lugged/rear triangle bikes.
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    Mammoth was usually June July if I remember right. Snow was an obstacle at times.
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    i'm saying 93...just cos... great pic
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    92 was the only year Tomac was sponsored by rockshox & rode mag20s consistently that year. (although if you look back through this thread he had rockshox on the raleigh signature at other dates, perhaps for pre-sponsorship purposes). he won the worlds in 91 & used the world champ stripes/signature on his disk drives in 92. I dont believe the worlds decals were used again after 92 season.

    regardless of exact dates & timeline, damn cool bike.

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    From 1992 VeloNews Official World Cup Guide:

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    Somehow just saw this. Cool. I still vaguely remember a photo of the Jeep being dug out with a shovel...

    Sure aren't many pictures of the '88 bike. And what's up with all the early photos turning into links that need to be individually clicked on?

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    I was going through thousands of outtakes from the '80s, looking for any cool images for my book. I found a box labeled "Durango '87." In it there was this photo of Johnny, not good enough to be sent to any magazines, so it sat in a drawer for 27 years.


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    Bonus: During the same treasure hunt I found this previously unpublished photo of Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead, taking a break on a ride we took in 1991.

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    More scans from Durango '87 please


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    Man that picture of Weir is sweet...... being an old head myself that is awesome!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I was going through thousands of outtakes from the '80s, looking for any cool images for my book. I found a box labeled "Durango '87." In it there was this photo of Johnny, not good enough to be sent to any magazines, so it sat in a drawer for 27 years.


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    Thanks CK! There are really hardly any pictures of that bike! Did you have any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Thanks CK! There are really hardly any pictures of that bike! Did you have any more?
    The reason there are so few photos of that bike is that it didn't survive the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I was going through thousands of outtakes from the '80s, looking for any cool images for my book. I found a box labeled "Durango '87." In it there was this photo of Johnny, not good enough to be sent to any magazines, so it sat in a drawer for 27 years.
    Wow! That is fantastic. Thank you so much for posting that picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    The reason there are so few photos of that bike is that it didn't survive the race.
    Wasn't that '86 when that frame broke?

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    Mountain biking with Bob Weir...to cool.
    I hope you talk about rides awith Bob in your book Ck.
    Thanks for sharing those pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Wasn't that '86 when that frame broke?
    Yup. He was 2nd in 87


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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Yup. He was 2nd in 87
    Yeah, memory is slightly foggy, but he broke a production Mongoose frame if I recall in '86 and then the next year had a custom frame made by Fat Chance to hopefully avoid any future frame "mishaps".

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    Great shot. That was the unofficial (pre-UCI) 1989 European world championships. Loved that bike.

    Cool video up there, Ameybrook!

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    I thought Myrah was 89 "world" champion?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    I thought Myrah was 89 "world" champion?
    in '89 before the UCI came into play there was a "world championship" held in the US which Myrah won and then one held in Europe which Tomac won.

    Now you have me questioning that pic. I could be wrong on that being the European World Champs, but that's what first came to mind when I saw it. I guess it could be just a World Cup.

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    Hi, nope,

    as far as I remember that was a "World Champs" race near Spa-Francorchamps - to people into motorsports that may ring a bell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Staab View Post
    Hi, nope,

    as far as I remember that was a "World Champs" race near Spa-Francorchamps - to people into motorsports that may ring a bell
    Ok, cool. My memory is still somewhat functioning. Spa, Belgium right?

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    Never saw this one before and particularly cool for the "regular guy" snapping an "off the cuff" kind of picture.

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    Interesting use of M730 crank when he had Revolvers and M900 from which to chose by then.


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    Helmet makes it '92.

    As far as cranks go, I know there was at least one race where he used Revolvers with the Merlin-built bike and its pressed-in BB but most of the time he used M900 cranks until he switched to the Litespeed-built frames and their threaded BB.
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    What you expect from a B-model bike. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Interesting use of M730 crank when he had Revolvers and M900 from which to chose by then.

    Could be M900 cranks with black rings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    A couple of JT with his all Ti Raleigh in Australia:

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    Always fun to pick out the little changes along the way.

    So DB Manitou fork, still has M730 XT cranks, M735 brifters, but M900 brakes, blue TDD.
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    Love that pic. I think early in 1991 the super rad, prototype M900 stuff was trickling in and the M730 stuff trickling out. Pretty sure that photo is in Big Bear which was the first National of the season.

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    From same issue of M&CB (and is probably somewhere earlier in this thread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    August 1992 MBA
    From very early in the '91 season with the XT still on there.

    Colker, I think he's got his hands slid in a bit to mimic road bar tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    From very early in the '91 season with the XT still on there.
    So did he go to flat bars, and then back to drops, and then back to straight bars all in one season?


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    Thanks, Doc! Loving all the scans and pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    So did he go to flat bars, and then back to drops, and then back to straight bars all in one season?
    I think 90 was the only year that he used the drops at the "request" of his road team, motorola. they didn't want him to change position to much from his roadie duties. Even used them for the downhill race at the worlds in Durango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeduda View Post
    I think 90 was the only year that he used the drops at the "request" of his road team, motorola. they didn't want him to change position to much from his roadie duties. Even used them for the downhill race at the worlds in Durango.
    Pretty sure the MTB drops was his and his coach's idea, but Fillet-Brazed or CCMDoc would correct me.

    Here is in 91 on drops.

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    He only did the one race in France for the 1991 season on drop bars with the Ti/Carbon Raleigh (in Ameybrook's post above) and still running the blue Tension Disk.
    With the switch to flat bars, the bar ends have the same blue/green bar tape, now with the clear Tension Disk Pro. I guess its Mammoth where he's missing the number plate up front?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Pretty sure the MTB drops was his and his coach's idea, but Fillet-Brazed or CCMDoc would correct me.

    Here is in 91 on drops.

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    Well ya got me there, I thought he was done with the drops after the worlds that year.

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    I take it back...more than one race on the Raleigh with drops...

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    Is that an sti right lever with bar end shifter for the front? Brake levers look different.

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    Yup. Shimano didn't have a road STI that could shift a triple yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I take it back...more than one race on the Raleigh with drops...

    Hmmm. I had heard it was only one race as well and one in Europe like you say. So, I guess it was at least two. XTR brakes and front hub on the number 6 bike and XT on the other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    So did he go to flat bars, and then back to drops, and then back to straight bars all in one season?
    The drop bars were on a bike set up for Europe and if I recall one that was kept there... He didn't want to bother with switching it back over...

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    Lot of photos from that french WC

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    So what event was the #6 plate with the drop set up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Thanks, Doc! Loving all the scans and pictures.
    My pleasure.

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    Probably posted somewhere earlier in this thread but worth a re-look:

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    I stole this from Hunter Cycles who stole it from the bathroom wall at Fresh Air Bicycles.

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    I stole this from Hunter Cycles who stole it from the bathroom wall at Fresh Air Bicycles.

    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
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    I stole this from Hunter Cycles who stole it from the bathroom wall at Fresh Air Bicycles.


    Ok experts...tell me all about that bike.

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    Great pics. Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
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    That was the team bike for the Celestial Seasonings road team. Specialized made a big mistake never hiring him for the dirt.

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    That second pic really catches the suffering.
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    Nice photo Huelse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Nice photo Huelse!
    Cool photo! Anyone see Eli last night! So solid. Chip off the ol' block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Anyone see Eli last night! So solid. Chip off the ol' block.
    Haven't watched any motocross since selling my '93 CR250R - and not allowed to else I'm liable to buy another and get myself into even more trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Haven't watched any motocross since selling my '93 CR250R - and not allowed to else I'm liable to buy another and get myself into even more trouble.
    Ha! I had a '93 CR250 too! Loved that bike.

    You should at least watch! Deep field this year and Eli looks like he could very well dominate.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Ha! I had a '93 CR250 too! Loved that bike.

    You should at least watch! Deep field this year and Eli looks like he could very well dominate.
    He did dominate at phoenix. Even Roczen admitted that Eli beat him straight up. And when RC says the field has got some work to do to have something for Eli you can take it to the bank. A chip off the old block indeed.

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