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    Oh and I've been searching for one of those Mongoose jerseys like the one in the JT cardboard cutout above.

    Have they ever been for sale
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    Tomac always looks faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    Tomac always looks faster.
    Because he is!!!
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    From March 1987 MBA




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    This was on the "New Subscription" page at the back ...

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    hey I have those posters!

    tomes Photos by mik_git | Photobucket

    (i'm sure they are all in this thread somewhere)

    got all excited...er last year, maybe earlier, Nike had the cross terrain II in one of their displays when opening some new thing in London...was hoping for a re-issue... wish they would re-issue the pooh-bah
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    hey I have those posters!
    reminds me of my student house in 94

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant View Post
    reminds me of my student house in 94

    My posters were of a slightly different nature
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    hey I have those posters!

    tomes Photos by mik_git | Photobucket

    (i'm sure they are all in this thread somewhere)

    got all excited...er last year, maybe earlier, Nike had the cross terrain II in one of their displays when opening some new thing in London...was hoping for a re-issue... wish they would re-issue the pooh-bah
    Great photos on your photobucket site Mik!

    I cant remember having seen a few of those before - but perhaps I just missed them.

    Be safe, stay well and Happy Holidays!
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    This is the frame that I harassed the Merlin guys about and the one that caused the UPS guy to pre-emptively tell me, my family and my neighbors whether he had anything for me whenever he came down my block in Brooklyn ...

    This is probably the best photo of that Merlin-built Mongoose frame I have come across:

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    Amazingly there were two of those at the LBS in Edmonton when I was growing up - and not the steel rear end version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    This is the frame that I harassed the Merlin guys about and the one that caused the UPS guy to pre-emptively tell me, my family and my neighbors whether he had anything for me whenever he came down my block in Brooklyn ...

    This is probably the best photo of that Merlin-built Mongoose frame I have come across:

    That was a cool bike. He was supposed to use the Tange Switchblade fork that year but opted to use the Yeti... which looked so cool on there.

    Did you say you found one of those frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    That was a cool bike. He was supposed to use the Tange Switchblade fork that year but opted to use the Yeti... which looked so cool on there.

    Did you say you found one of those frames?
    Actualy I've had it since new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Actualy I've had it since new.
    cool MF..
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    cool MF..
    Here it is in 1990 ...

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    I was scanning some other stuff for a friend and saw this cover.

    It is probably burried somewhere in this thread but I figured I'd post it (again) anyway:

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    Courtesy of 24pouces over on RB who scanned his 1992 catalogue for me.

    Never saw this catalogue before or any which featured the Raleigh John Tomac Signature frame and/or bike.

    If anyone has the '93 or '94 catalogue and can scan and send me a copy, I'd very much appreciate it. I don't think it appeared at all in their '91 catalogue.

    Here is the Merlin Ti version in all of its Sticker Accessory Kit glory with its namesake flying above:

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    Ha! I have the sticker kit....but have never seen it applied to a bike.

    Early bike in the catalog pic with the XT build, Rolls saddle, and what appears to be a Tioga alloy post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Ha! I have the sticker kit....but have never seen it applied to a bike.

    Early bike in the catalog pic with the XT build, Rolls saddle, and what appears to be a Tioga alloy post.
    Yeah I have one too just can't remember where I got it ...

    One of my gang had a Manitou and put them all over his bike. Until we humiliated him for putting such uncool non-sponsor stickers on his bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Yeah I have one too just can't remember where I got it ...

    One of my gang had a Manitou and put them all over his bike. Until we humiliated him for putting such uncool non-sponsor stickers on his bike
    did he ever ride w/a Rolls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    did he ever ride w/a Rolls?
    no, but he also didn't ride with that seat shown in the catalog which is a Turbo Special (?) or something like that. He always used a Flite on the Raleigh. That's just a catalog photo, doesn't look like one of John's actual bikes.

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    Official John Tomac Picture Thread

    Old Mongoose photo.Official John Tomac Picture Thread-imageuploadedbytapatalk1362538125.648382.jpg

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    Those are some great shots!
    Always exciting to see - even in still photos.
    Great and thanks
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    What I've noticed is: guys that run tension disks are natural converts to cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    What I've noticed is: guys that run tension disks are natural converts to cross.
    Carrying a cross (it is Easter)?
    Cross-dressing?
    Cyclocross?
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    All 3 will do but yes, meant cyclocross.

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    great pictures.
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Well I'm a big fan of Tioga tension discs but admit to doing at least one of those three ...
    Ok, maybe 2
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    Thanks for the new photos! I love those 1991 photos with the blue/green jersey and the Manitou fork. Gotta be the coolest race bike of all time for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Thanks for the new photos! I love those 1991 photos with the blue/green jersey and the Manitou fork. Gotta be the coolest race bike of all time for me.
    Couldn't agree with you more on the bike.
    I have a pair of those shorts and a similar though not the same jersey.
    I almost had one of those Try Lee feather helmet sticker kits but only "almost". Really like the various eagle and Stars n Stripes helmet designs he had.
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    ok not exactly tomac related... but slightly on topic
    nike cycling comercial Video by T'boo Ted - Myspace Video
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    ok not exactly tomac related... but slightly on topic
    nike cycling comercial Video by T'boo Ted - Myspace Video
    As an aside - burning your discs Mik_git. Will try to get them in the mail next week.
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    Oh cool, thanks, just hit me up for postage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Love this shot!
    Hasta Luego..
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    And a bunch from the October '93 MBA:



    One of these might NOT be a picture of John Tomac but rather than an ad featuring a former teammate of mine. He moved on to another sponsor after I broke both wrists in '92. I came across that ad in the October '93 MBA and thought it cool ...
    Awesome picture of James! I recall reading about his story in an early BIKE magazine, then when I moved to arizona I ended up meeting him, living down the street from him and riding with him all the time. The guy was insanely fast, insanely skilled and had the tiniest calves i have ever seen but he just got into mountain biking at the wrong time. If he got in today he would probably be in every ad, he was a marketing bonanza just wrong time frame to be capitalized up by marketers I guess.

    Hell of rider though. Lost track of him when he moved to Texas as I recall to sell RV's.
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    I came looking for this actually so I thought I would leave it here. Bad resolution but as I recall it is tomac and Herbold in the video:

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CqsAR83g584" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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    From the cover of the '96 Giant catalogue:

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    anyone know what book or mag this is from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    anyone know what book or mag this is from?

    No, but cool pic. I'll try and get that SN for you, too. It's a little tough to access at the present moment.

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    Thanks F-B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    No, but cool pic. I'll try and get that SN for you, too. It's a little tough to access at the present moment.
    You told me there weren't any. We both have to hound you for it. You dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    You told me there weren't any. We both have to hound you for it. You dick.
    Good morning little buddy. I don't think there is one, but I will check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Good morning little buddy. I don't think there is one, but I will check
    Rumpfy is just sad because you like me better ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Rumpfy is just sad because you like me better ...
    We dated a long time, he's all yours now.
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    MTV Sports from 1992 featuring JT and HB: "I'm married with children" "I'm single with toys"

    priceless

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    No tension discs were harmed in the filming of this video.


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    H-Ball was always a riot to watch race.
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    Great vid no matter how many times I watch it.

    I don't think my copy of that has the Baywatch ending, though. Makes it MUCH more interesting.
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    1992



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    A water leak in my house forced me to go through boxes that had not been opened in decades. Therein I found these:



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    Here is my "receipt" for my 1989 Mongoose John Tomac Signature frame (Merlin full titanium). On the other side is my hand-written list of components on a piece of spiral paper.

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    Perhaps a few repeats found elsewhere in this thread but here they are again


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    And some more






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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Perhaps a few repeats found elsewhere in this thread but here they are again


    thanks for sharing! Love the receipt! Very cool. The pic behind the receipt, if I recall that particular bike looked fillet-brazed, no?

    And the April 1990 Mountain Biking cover, fork blue, white, purple rather than red, white, blue right? Matches his jersey. Always loved that bike with that fork on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    thanks for sharing! Love the receipt! Very cool. The pic behind the receipt, if I recall that particular bike looked fillet-brazed, no?
    Yeah - I think that's just a steel bike painted silver much like the one in the '89 Mongoose catalogue.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    And the April 1990 Mountain Biking cover, fork blue, white, purple rather than red, white, blue right? Matches his jersey. Always loved that bike with that fork on there.
    In that shot the "red" does look a little "mauve-ish" but in others it's clearly red - maybe there were more than one Yeti fork and painted a bit differently. I'm planning to imitate that build on mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Yeah - I think that's just a steel bike painted silver much like the one in the '89 Mongoose catalogue.




    In that shot the "red" does look a little "mauve-ish" but in others it's clearly red - maybe there were more than one Yeti fork and painted a bit differently. I'm planning to imitate that build on mine.
    Never have seen the red shots.

    I love how you have the levers noted as "2 finger" as that was a big deal then. They finally did away with the old honker levers.

    I remember seeing prototype 2 finger levers (silver) on Johnny T's bike at the '88 Bear Valley National. I wanted them so bad. He also had prototype 7 speed shifters. I was in awe as a young teenager. At that point in time you could truly walk up to any of those guys and give them full interviews with no complaints.

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    I was not a young teenager back then but was equally awed by these guys. As you said they were humble and actually fun to hang with and didn't seem to mind endless questions. Most were "regular" folk having fun - and that's one of the reasons it was so great.
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    Can anyone find and post a pic of JT riding the ControlTech hardtail circa 1996-7?
    I've specifically asked JT for one, but he said he didn't have any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    In that shot the "red" does look a little "mauve-ish" but in others it's clearly red - maybe there were more than one Yeti fork and painted a bit differently. I'm planning to imitate that build on mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    thanks for sharing! Love the receipt! Very cool. The pic behind the receipt, if I recall that particular bike looked fillet-brazed, no?

    And the April 1990 Mountain Biking cover, fork blue, white, purple rather than red, white, blue right? Matches his jersey. Always loved that bike with that fork on there.
    lol. How many times are you two going to go over this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    lol. How many times are you two going to go over this?
    Color still to be determined. Stay tuned for more discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Color still to be determined. Stay tuned for more discussion.
    It would be nice to get to the bottom of it. It definitely feels unresolved. Does DC know?

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    It's sort of deoxyhemoglobin red ... That's what the Home Depot paint matching guy said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    It's sort of deoxyhemoglobin red ... That's what the Home Depot paint matching guy said.
    we need a Pantone number.

    hemoglobin, eh? So, it's blood.

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    1004-1B is close and I even like the name ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    It would be nice to get to the bottom of it. It definitely feels unresolved. Does DC know?
    You want a calibration from a national standards lab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublecentury View Post
    you want a calibration from a national standards lab?
    exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote2k View Post
    Can anyone find and post a pic of JT riding the ControlTech hardtail circa 1996-7?
    I've specifically asked JT for one, but he said he didn't have any.

    Per Scant:
    to the "experimental" all black alu frames in 94. that at the time were told as being made by control tech, but were actually made by chris herting of 3D (& previous yeti) fame.

    There are a few photos of him on the "Experimental" but seems it's not a CT
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    Eli did his first mtb race this week. Pretty cool. Maybe after his motocross career...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Eli did his first mtb race this week. Pretty cool. Maybe after his motocross career...
    Riding a Trek? WTF.
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    Riding a Trek? WTF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    No excuse. Pull one of dads old bikes down from the rafters and be rad.

    How'd he place?
    haha, that'd be cool. Mid pack expert. Not too shabby when you've been training and practicing to be the best at a diffent sport for the last 10 months (or rather his whole life).

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    23 years and a big fire later...

    <a href="https://s77.photobucket.com/user/ameybrook/media/AA5F3D55-8280-4C06-AA4E-17A10F7E85E1-319-000000BED75076EE_zps0329a7c2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/ameybrook/AA5F3D55-8280-4C06-AA4E-17A10F7E85E1-319-000000BED75076EE_zps0329a7c2.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo AA5F3D55-8280-4C06-AA4E-17A10F7E85E1-319-000000BED75076EE_zps0329a7c2.jpg"/></a>


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    23 years and a big fire later...

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    You should re-take that photo with your C-26.

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    Probably somewhere else in this thread but a recent arrival for me. Crappy iPhone photo but can scan if someone is interested in a better quality repro.


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    January 1987 MBA just arrived so ...

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    can you post a bigger image of the MBA feature on his bike?
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    I had John autograph this photo of him in his first MTB race. It appeared in a 1986 issue of the Fat Tire Flyer. The inscription reads, "Charlie, this is my first Mt. bike!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
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    can you post a bigger image of the MBA feature on his bike?
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    No problem.
    I'll scan it on Monday and post a higher resolution version.
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    Higher resolution versions per Colker's request


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    [QUOTE=CCMDoc;10697618]Higher resolution versions per Colker's request

    40 3/4 wheelbase. That's SHORT on a 19in frame.

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    Tomac in 1991

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Dude View Post
    Tomac in the 1991 Mt. Snow NORBA Nationals Championship Final flyer & from Velo News World Cup Preview.
    Awesome stuff. Keep it coming.

    And just to avoid possible confusion, all those shots are from 1990.

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    Correct, 1990 shots in 1991 publications, I'm noting source & year in photo name.
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    From December 1987 Bicycle Guide

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    Nice ones!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Nice ones!
    I have a few more of the drop-bar bike that show a few unique features of that particular frame.
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    A few unique differences

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    Those scans remind me of sneaking off between shifts and going down to the Hudson News store. Once there I would look at the British magazines and the Spanish ones too. That issue made me late to work. Thanks for the flashback Doc.
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    While I always preferred the Swedish glossies at Hudson news I might have put my eyes back in my head (momentarily) if I knew that magazine was in the rack.
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    Cool to see the drop bar Raleigh. Couldn't have done more than a race or two with that configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Cool to see the drop bar Raleigh. Couldn't have done more than a race or two with that configuration.
    I wonder where that frame went as I don't think it appeared in flat bar format following his switch back.
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    Official John Tomac Picture Thread-fd72bb18-b0de-463b-82a9-24bbcdf7b918_zps9f798876.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I wonder where that frame went as I don't think it appeared in flat bar format following his switch back.
    Maybe thats the one he kept? Or whatever bike he won the 91 Worlds on.
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    The drop bar frame differs in a few ways from the frame he kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    I wonder where that frame went as I don't think it appeared in flat bar format following his switch back.
    Are we talking about decal placement or are there other differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Are we talking about decal placement or are there other differences?
    Nah, not just that.
    A couple of other small details which sets this frame apart from all others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Nah, not just that.
    A couple of other small details which sets this frame apart from all others.
    Besides the pulley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Besides the pulley?
    That's one ...

    The other is closely related and difficult to see in those photos.
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    That's one ...

    The other is closely related and difficult to see in those photos.
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    I have posted a number of photos in this thread, all of which I took myself. Posting a photo of John Tomac that is scanned out of a magazine is a lot like scanning a magazine photo of a cool bike for the "post your ride" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I have posted a number of photos in this thread, all of which I took myself. Posting a photo of John Tomac that is scanned out of a magazine is a lot like scanning a magazine photo of a cool bike for the "post your ride" thread.

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    Not even close to the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I have posted a number of photos in this thread, all of which I took myself. Posting a photo of John Tomac that is scanned out of a magazine is a lot like scanning a magazine photo of a cool bike for the "post your ride" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I have posted a number of photos in this thread, all of which I took myself. Posting a photo of John Tomac that is scanned out of a magazine is a lot like scanning a magazine photo of a cool bike for the "post your ride" thread.

    /rant
    Lucky for us, you scan and share your old photos.

    How else are we supposed to enjoy all the other awesome photos of JT over the years that weren't taken by you? Track down the original photographers and ask them to scan and post for us? Never gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I have posted a number of photos in this thread, all of which I took myself. Posting a photo of John Tomac that is scanned out of a magazine is a lot like scanning a magazine photo of a cool bike for the "post your ride" thread.

    /rant
    I didn't realize this was the "only post the pictures you took of JT" thread.

    I posted some that I have taken as well as some of the "scanned", just trying to share.

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    we have 21 pages so far of awesome pictures and discussions, if it was only pics you took yourself, it be like 5 pages.

    ANyway on another note, does anyone have or know where there is a video of the 91 worlds?
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    we have 21 pages so far of awesome pictures and discussions, if it was only pics you took yourself, it be like 5 pages.

    ANyway on another note, does anyone have or know where there is a video of the 91 worlds?
    Mik,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I had John autograph this photo of him in his first MTB race. It appeared in a 1986 issue of the Fat Tire Flyer. The inscription reads, "Charlie, this is my first Mt. bike!"



    Just noticed the seat post on that bike....side pull rear brake too...Wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    ANyway on another note, does anyone have or know where there is a video of the 91 worlds?
    Right?! I have not found that one anywhere!
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    91 Manosque, is Tomac riding for Raleigh, early race where he was still on drop bars. He won that race.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu8e769nSfw

    By the time we get to Chateaux D'oax, he's on flat bars again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8O-Pz5Uh68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    91 Manosque, is Tomac riding for Raleigh, early race where he was still on drop bars. He won that race.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu8e769nSfw

    By the time we get to Chateaux D'oax, he's on flat bars again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8O-Pz5Uh68
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    This is all I've been able to find:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    91 Manosque, is Tomac riding for Raleigh, early race where he was still on drop bars. He won that race.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu8e769nSfw

    By the time we get to Chateaux D'oax, he's on flat bars again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8O-Pz5Uh68
    He only used the drop bars once on the Raleigh. It was set up in Europe that way early in the season. After that race he was done with the road bars.

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    I'm going to post pictures from magazines of my bikes. Prepare to be impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve View Post
    Just noticed the seat post on that bike....side pull rear brake too...Wow!

    That Mongoose would be an ultra cool replica build...



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    Mik,

    I can not believe that RR was serious with that statement. It's simply just too ridiculous and juvenile. I'm sure it was an attempt at being funny.

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    Nah. The logic is too faulty. Unrealistic to believe anybody would make that analogy. But it was a good funny!

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    I like the helmet in the first two photos


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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    I have posted a number of photos in this thread, all of which I took myself. Posting a photo of John Tomac that is scanned out of a magazine is a lot like scanning a magazine photo of a cool bike for the "post your ride" thread.

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    Awesome to witness.
    What was as impressive was his humble and seemingly embarrassed attitude towards the attention and accolades following this incredible performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Awesome to witness.
    What was as impressive was his humble and seemingly embarrassed attitude towards the attention and accolades following this incredible performance.
    I was there too. The way he shredded the XC course on those slimy, off-camber roots was something I won't forget. I remember staring and drooling over that bike at the Raleigh/Tioga tent with all the prototype, never-before-seen M900.

    '91 with the Manitou is easily my favorite version of his ti carbon bikes. And that legendary green kit... so cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    I was there too. The way he shredded the XC course on those slimy, off-camber roots was something I won't forget. I remember staring and drooling over that bike at the Raleigh/Tioga tent with all the prototype, never-before-seen M900.

    '91 with the Manitou is easily my favorite version of his ti carbon bikes. And that legendary green kit... so cool.
    Agree with every point although you must admit that the rainbow jersey along with the Mag-Lite/Mag-20 brake/fork combo that followed was pretty cool too
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    what about the BLACK aluminum falcon i mean frame he rode after the titanium Raleigh? Why????
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    what about the BLACK aluminum falcon i mean frame he rode after the titanium Raleigh? Why????
    Both are good questions!

    And I assume you are referring to those Chris Herting built for him.

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    Agree with every point although you must admit that the rainbow jersey along with the Mag-Lite/Mag-20 brake/fork combo that followed was pretty cool too
    Was the Mag 20 ever used more than a race or two? He went right to the blue Tioga fork for '92 right? Personally I never thought the Mag20 looked as good as the Manitou or the blue forks. I do like the blue era!

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    Was the Mag 20 ever used more than a race or two? He went right to the blue Tioga fork for '92 right? Personally I never thought the Mag20 looked as good as the Manitou or the blue forks. I do like the blue era!
    You would know better than I but as far as I know, he never used the blue Tioga fork on his green-decal Merlin bikes. He did use the blue Tioga forks on the Litespeed bikes, all but a few of which had blue "Raleigh" decals.

    It's possible that he used the blue Tioga forks on his blue re-decal'd Merlin but I've no idea how many races he used that in if any at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    We need a picture timeline... post... or something.
    Something like this though for his bikes:

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    We've seen versions of this shot before

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Aside from those,
    This is all I've been able to find:

    ah cool, thanks for that, I've searched but not ever even found that.
    Finally got to watch it now I have internet again (moving house grr)
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    Love all these scans and posts PY. Just with they were full size!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Love all these scans and posts PY. Just with they were full size!
    Sadly, I leave you unfulfilled yet again ...

    Having said that, when I click the pictures they open in a new window nearly full screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Sadly, I leave you unfulfilled yet again ...
    Having said that, when I click the pictures they open in a new window nearly full screen.
    I get the new window, but its still a smaller image. I'm going to take some proper pics of your JTS next month!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I'm going to take some proper pics of your JTS next month!
    Don't you have enough shots of your old bike?
    Besides, I was thinking of taking the Trek 8900 instead.
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    First time I've seen that fork.
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    Wow - same smile and everything!


    From previous post -
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    Quote Originally Posted by DethWshBkr View Post
    Wow - same smile and everything!
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    Interesting mention of Don Myrah and JT riding similar bikes. Was The Don supposed to ride for Yeti around then?
    Ritchey --> Fat --> Steelman was my understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    First time I've seen that fork.
    Me too.

    Black painted "Trek Mogul" Showa/Tioga legs and brace slipped into Rock Shox Mag 20 crown?
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    He always looks unconventional and having fun. Btw.. the Tioga fork is an air fork, right? But different form RS mags.. unlike the specialized future shocks, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    the Tioga fork is an air fork, right? But different form RS mags.. unlike the specialized future shocks, right?
    Yes air/oil and made by Showa - of motocross/race fork fame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Interesting mention of Don Myrah and JT riding similar bikes. Was The Don supposed to ride for Yeti around then?
    Ritchey --> Fat --> Steelman was my understanding.

    Myrah rode for Yeti (briefly) in 91 I'm pretty sure.... The picture and mention above is for the 1990 season. But the "similar bikes" makes me question that.
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    Chris Herting doesn't enthusiastically chat about old Yetis, but he did tell me that Don Myrah's Yetis should be the most highly coveted ones by collectors. He said out of all the prototypes he build, he was most proud of the frames he built for Don. Apparently tons of man hours went into carefully sculpting the frames so they would meet Don's weight requirements. I guess they never even got close to what his Ritchey P-bikes weighed in at. One detail in particular was the oval section behind the BB was carved out to shed mud. I would love to see a pic of this.


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    Great uploads, Doc. This thread is one of my favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Chris Herting doesn't enthusiastically chat about old Yetis, but he did tell me that Don Myrah's Yetis should be the most highly coveted ones by collectors. He said out of all the prototypes he build, he was most proud of the frames he built for Don. Apparently tons of man hours went into carefully sculpting the frames so they would meet Don's weight requirements.
    Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    I guess they never even got close to what his Ritchey P-bikes weighed in at.
    Especially with the Campy parts he used on the Yeti. Worth at least two pounds I'd guess (Yeti P-26 ). Or maybe Chris was talking only about the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Great uploads, Doc. This thread is one of my favorites.
    Thanks GoB. I suspect there are a number of "repeats" I've posted but even so, still nice to bring 'em to the top again.

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    Mullet or no mullet, he's hot. I think we can all agree about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    he did tell me that Don Myrah's Yetis should be the most highly coveted ones by collectors.
    Did he forget to say that said collectors are a bunch of idiots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    Chris Herting doesn't enthusiastically chat about old Yetis, but he did tell me that Don Myrah's Yetis should be the most highly coveted ones by collectors. He said out of all the prototypes he build, he was most proud of the frames he built for Don. Apparently tons of man hours went into carefully sculpting the frames so they would meet Don's weight requirements. I guess they never even got close to what his Ritchey P-bikes weighed in at. One detail in particular was the oval section behind the BB was carved out to shed mud. I would love to see a pic of this.
    Way cool. Except I've never seen a single pic of Don on a Yeti.

    To pull a que from Fillet-brazed's book....I'll have to ask Don about his time with Yeti next time we're hangin' out.
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    Funny, some legends of the sport right there...and they still looks as dorky as anyone else from that time (and having fun while doing it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Way cool. Except I've never seen a single pic of Don on a Yeti.

    To pull a que from Fillet-brazed's book....I'll have to ask Don about his time with Yeti next time we're hangin' out.
    haha. You read my mind!

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    This is what I mean. I took this photo. And here it is, with no attribution.

    See post #146 in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    This is what I mean. I took this photo. And here it is, with no attribution.

    See post #146 in this thread.
    I think this is a topic for another thread/forum/website altogether. I hear ya and understand where you're coming from, but it's just the nature of the beast (ie internet) as far as I can tell. There is the option of trying to chase all the violators down across the vast interweb and make them provide photo credits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    I think this is a topic for another thread/forum/website altogether. I hear ya and understand where you're coming from, but it's just the nature of the beast (ie internet) as far as I can tell. There is the option of trying to chase all the violators down across the vast interweb and make them provide photo credits.
    When you scan a magazine, the source of the photo is obvious. My photo posts are scanned from the originals, and I know them when I see them. If I put them online, I certainly identify myself as the source, but somehow that information didn't follow the photo.

    Perhaps Doc could explain where he found the photo, if he didn't get it from post #146 in this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    When you scan a magazine, the source of the photo is obvious. My photo posts are scanned from the originals, and I know them when I see them. If I put them online, I certainly identify myself as the source, but somehow that information didn't follow the photo.

    Perhaps Doc could explain where he found the photo, if he didn't get it from post #146 in this discussion.
    All the photos I've right clicked on and saved have no photo credit. My hard drive has lots of them. Perhaps we should all be more diligent when we save a photo and name it with a photo cred. I know there's a fitting analogy or two to go along with your valiant efforts but it's escaping me right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    ^ beer day picture?
    I read on the internet that yes, it was Greg Herbold that took the Coors photo during this ride on Missionary Ridge in Durango. But I can't confirm that an actual person provided this information because I wasn't there when it was typed


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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook View Post
    I read on the internet that yes, it was Greg Herbold that took the Coors photo during this ride on Missionary Ridge in Durango. But I can't confirm that an actual person provided this information because I wasn't there when it was typed
    You're just bitter cuz Danny MacAskill didn't give you photo credit for featuring your Yeti in Imaginate. I get it. No, I do. That should totally be your legacy. Not your awesomeness, bike riding skills, your family, your home, your work and your good looks. If it helps, I told everybody I know that was not only your bike, but your photography. But you should write him a letter because the satisfaction of seeing your bike in that video couldn't possibly be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    When you scan a magazine, the source of the photo is obvious. My photo posts are scanned from the originals, and I know them when I see them. If I put them online, I certainly identify myself as the source, but somehow that information didn't follow the photo.

    Perhaps Doc could explain where he found the photo, if he didn't get it from post #146 in this discussion.
    Do a Google image search for "John Tomac" (or Repack or Fat Tire Flyer or anything you think you should be getting credit for) and see what happens. The scope of the internet makes all of mountain biking (and your photo contributions to it) look like a speck of dust. The battle for recognition/credit that you so desperately crave at every level would be futile. The internet is a big bad place. Even if you never posted anything from your website online, someone somewhere would scan a magazine photo and post it. Someone else would take a screen cap of that and save it, host it somewhere else. Posted on any number of blogs or forums that you don't know about.

    Handle this however you want, but its probably best to just be happy knowing that people all over the world are enjoying a photo you took.
    Lets be honest, people care more about the photo of John Tomac than that fact that it was you that took the photo of John Tomac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    When you scan a magazine, the source of the photo is obvious. My photo posts are scanned from the originals, and I know them when I see them. If I put them online, I certainly identify myself as the source, but somehow that information didn't follow the photo.

    Perhaps Doc could explain where he found the photo, if he didn't get it from post #146 in this discussion.
    Why not place a watermark if credit is adamant?.. You are not a pro photographer, you didn't watermark your pic, you post your pic online.. what do you expect from the internet?
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    To get this thread back on track, here's a pic I pulled from the internet. Its not mine and I'm not giving the owner photo credit. But he did water mark it.

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    As Rumpfy and fillet-brazed note, there are tons of photos on the net, usually in forums that have no attribution.
    The "Fair Use" copyright regs, section 107 is rather vague especially if use of the material is not for personal gain or profit. It's not my intention to demonstrate disrespect to any photographer by posting a photo I've found on the Internet regardless of how many iterations and places it may already reside.

    Really unfortunate as I've found some I'd not seen before. I now hesitate to post them here, amongst those I'd considered mutual enthusiasts and friends.
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    moar pic-y pic-y, less talk-y talk-y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig View Post
    moar pic-y pic-y, less talk-y talk-y.
    Thank you. Maybe the moderators can clean up the less than pertinent chatter that has taken place.

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    Can't help myself, I just have to share

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMDoc View Post
    Can't help myself, I just have to share
    Do you know what race that lower pic is with the rainbow jersey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Do you know what race that lower pic is with the rainbow jersey?
    I don't but that is the exact bike set up he had at Mt Snow in 1992 - silver Tioga bar ends, blue Tioga bars and stem, silver cages and T-disc Pro with rainbow/JT decal so I suspect it was immediately before or following.
    What race did Subway sponsor around that time?
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    aye, more pics, less grumpy-ness.

    if I could I be giving out more + reps
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    Keep posting Doc. This thread rocks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    " I, me, mine, my, me, I, I ,I me, me ,mine, I, my, me, ego, mine, me and I."

    Keep posting Doc. This thread rocks!
    People seem to assume that the anonymity of the Internet means that no one will see their work when it is distributed to forums such as this. Unlike almost everyone else here (except Howley), I was present, with a camera, at events that have receded into legend. Because the rest of you were not there, and only experience that era vicariously through this forum, none of you is likely to see your 27-year old photos posted here and the congratulations going to someone else.

    When that happens to you, you will understand how I feel about it Until it does, feel free to consider me a grumpy old jerk. I believe the name calling will begin with the post directly under this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    People seem to assume that the anonymity of the Internet means that no one will see their work when it is distributed to forums such as this. Unlike almost everyone else here (except Howley), I was present, with a camera, at events that have receded into legend. Because the rest of you were not there, and only experience that era vicariously through this forum, none of you is likely to see your 27-year old photos posted here and the congratulations going to someone else.

    When that happens to you, you will understand how I feel about it Until it does, feel free to consider me a grumpy old jerk. I believe the name calling will begin with the post directly under this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    Because the rest of you were not there, and only experience that era vicariously through this forum
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    Wow, I guess I never was actually there riding, racing through the 80s and early 90s. Must have all been a dream. Thanks for all the pictures, CK!

    I understand where you're coming from, but seriously...? I am giving you the benefit of the doubt thinking you're from an older generation that maybe doesn't fully grasp the internet and hard drives...??

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    Or you could have just popped I and said "hey, it just so happens I took that pic", and told us an interesting story. And then you'd get some positives attention for a change

    Instead you chose to be the grumpy old jerk

    Why is that a habit of yours? Stop being the grumpy old jerk

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    I don't think of Johnny T as being part of the old Klunker Generation, or for that matter the Schwinn Stingray Generation when he was doing BMX. A long way from the old Marin Repack group, he was more of the third wave at best. I saw him ride (and took photo's). I bet a lot of people here on VRC saw him ride. Probably a few who even raced against him.
    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2 or 3. Cunningham Racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed View Post
    Wow, I guess I never was actually there riding, racing through the 80s and early 90s. Must have all been a dream.

    Apparently none of us were.


    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    Or you could have just popped I and said "hey, it just so happens I took that pic", and told us an interesting story. And then you'd get some positives attention for a change

    Instead you chose to be the grumpy old jerk

    Why is that a habit of yours? Stop being the grumpy old jerk

    Shit man, it's not that hard

    No, it's not that hard at all.
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    Official John Tomac Picture Thread-paris_tuileries_garden_facepalm_statue.jpg

    Please stop talking.

    Back to pictures...

    photo credit to Mr. or Ms. Cameraperson. Danke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
    Unlike almost everyone else here (except Howley), I was present, with a camera, at events that have receded into legend. Because the rest of you were not there

    I believe the name calling will begin with the post directly under this one.
    Alienate a forum of users that (should) be your fan base by insulting them, then play the woe-is-me card? Let me know how that works out for ya.
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