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    Official GT Thread

    Anyone out there have any Xizangs, Zaskars or Pyclones (or whatever they were called)?? I loved those frames... never had any...

    OK so i love the signature tomac, and my yeti and fats... but realy this is my all time fav frame...:

    (hope its not too big)


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    I have a first year Xizang exactly like that one, but currently fitted with a later (~97) Marzocchi Bomber. I have a lot of vintage bikes but the Xiz is the one I ride all the time. They're great.

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    I have a 1992 Team Avalanche. This was the steel frame version that came with XTR M-900. I rode that bike 1000s of miles... Still loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallen
    I have a 1992 Team Avalanche. This was the steel frame version that came with XTR M-900. I rode that bike 1000s of miles... Still loving it.
    I used to have a '91 Team Avalanche. No longer own it though.

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    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?

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    I have one too..

    But...it's a Timberline, all steel frame and Shimano Deore components...I really love this bike, I even want to upgrade it/modify it to an urban assault/commuter...But...

    Where can I find old pull brakes?...or a 7-speed cassette and derailleurs ??

    I'll post a pic tomorrow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?
    Why, did he make funny sounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatDan
    Where can I find old pull brakes?...or a 7-speed cassette and derailleurs ??
    You can usually find all that stuff on ebay.

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    You're in luck Mik...now if you can just get him to ship to you....

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    AAWWEE!!! too bad i just bought a house, my girlfriend woul;d kill me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwr
    Why, did he make funny sounds?
    Ya, hopefully someone will chime in thats heard him. I think its on the exhale he lets out a kind of high pitch sound. Almost like girls tennis but higher pitched. Kinda hard to put into text. Definitely distinct. You can hear him coming and going.

    I asked him about it a few years ago and he started laughing about it and said people ask him if thats his normal deal all the time. He said thats what happens when hes going hard... Hes a real nice guy. He and his wife. He used to go pretty darn good back in the day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Ya, hopefully someone will chime in thats heard him. I think its on the exhale he lets out a kind of high pitch sound. Almost like girls tennis but higher pitched. Kinda hard to put into text. Definitely distinct. You can hear him coming and going.

    I asked him about it a few years ago and he started laughing about it and said people ask him if thats his normal deal all the time. He said thats what happens when hes going hard... Hes a real nice guy. He and his wife. He used to go pretty darn good back in the day!
    I'll have to have you do a reenactment next time I see you.

    Tammi Jaques still his wife? I always thought she was mildly hot.
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    here is some stuff that I needed an excuse to post.

    Couple of items from amongst the hundreds of POS's at our last police bike auction.

    Saw this and had to have it. Vicious bidding war ensued and I had to fork out 27 bucks to take it home.
    24" BMX GT


    This was the sleeper, we knew that under a thick coat of spray paint (the painter didn't miss a spot, got tires, cassette, hubs, spokes, etc.) it was a GT, Alu, 7 sp. XT, Mag 21, our fingers were crossed that it was a Zaskar. Late in the auction so fatigue had set in and we got it for 25. Some of the spray job had been removed in this shot, and a few parts switched so we could take it for a spin, but you get the idea.


    Turns out it was an avalanche. We stripped, polished it, and scored a sticker set.


    Good friend and infamous Boulder Army Store patriarch ripping it up on the finished product. Probably never been ridden like this before.

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    check harriscyclery.com for that kind o' stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatDan
    But...it's a Timberline, all steel frame and Shimano Deore components...I really love this bike, I even want to upgrade it/modify it to an urban assault/commuter...But...

    Where can I find old pull brakes?...or a 7-speed cassette and derailleurs ??

    I'll post a pic tomorrow..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'll have to have you do a reenactment next time I see you.

    Tammi Jaques still his wife? I always thought she was mildly hot.
    Ya Tammi is his wife. They had a little girl. With both of them as parents their kids should put out some horsepower!
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    My "old" GT. 2000 STS1000 DS. Sold it a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Ya Tammi is his wife. Atleast 2-3 years ago. They had a little girl. With both of them as parents their kids should put out some horsepower!
    Good genes.
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    This is my late 80's Timberline...

    Let's see if this works out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I used to have a '91 Team Avalanche. No longer own it though.

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    Why did GT hold on to the U-brake thing for so long? Its my least favorite part of my team avalanche....

    BTW - My first mountain bike was a 1988 GT Tequesta with Suntour XCE

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    GT Karakorum K2

    I'm not sure how old this one is but I'm thinking about 1987/88,all Suntour XCE. I found this one in a pile of bikes on the side of the street,dumped there by a home owner cleaning out his backyard.
    I cleaned it up and pumped the tires and she was ready to go.But during a recent ride the bottom bracket started to make really loud grinding noises sounding like a mountain lion in heat. It just happened to be at the same trail where a mountain lion was spotted a week earlier. I'm pretty sure the trail users weren't amused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sallen
    Why did GT hold on to the U-brake thing for so long? Its my least favorite part of my team avalanche....
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.

    The comical part to v-brakes for me is that they've basically totally killed off brake booster sales/production. Back in cantilever/u-brake days, you almost HAD to have a booster plate to keep from breaking your fork/frame. Now with V's, no need for them anymore. Yet people insist v's are more powerful. LOL.

    A guy I know repeatedly BENT brake studs on frames/forks whenever he tried running a Scott Pedersen SE brake without a booster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built4Speed
    I'm not sure how old this one is but I'm thinking about 1987/88,all Suntour XCE. I found this one in a pile of bikes on the side of the street,dumped there by a home owner cleaning out his backyard.
    I cleaned it up and pumped the tires and she was ready to go.But during a recent ride the bottom bracket started to make really loud grinding noises sounding like a mountain lion in heat. It just happened to be at the same trail where a mountain lion was spotted a week earlier. I'm pretty sure the trail users weren't amused.

    I got a Karakorum in the mid '90s. Put a bomber z3 on it, raceface cranks, WTB rims... Best fitting and one of the best riding bikes I'd ever been on. I got it because I thought it was a tough-ass bike that would last me forever. In Thunder Bay there ware always about 10 old ones I would see from time to time that were destined for a third decade of heavy use. SURPRISE!!! Mine broke at the chainstay about two-and-a-half years later. GT had then discontinued the Karakorum and I wound up with an ill-fitting backwoods frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.

    The comical part to v-brakes for me is that they've basically totally killed off brake booster sales/production. Back in cantilever/u-brake days, you almost HAD to have a booster plate to keep from breaking your fork/frame. Now with V's, no need for them anymore. Yet people insist v's are more powerful. LOL.

    A guy I know repeatedly BENT brake studs on frames/forks whenever he tried running a Scott Pedersen SE brake without a booster.

    That's funny... my main issue back in the day was that there wasn;t a huge selection of U-brakes available... I did end up with the scott brake though! =) it was a bit hard to set up... but once it was... it rocked!

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    yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?
    I watched him smoke the field at the Traverse City, MI NORBA Nat'l back in 1991. Very impressive win on a dry dusty course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.
    You're kidding right? GT held on to U-brakes because of their triple triangle frame. Your heel would have hit canti's due to the much lower chainstays. U-Brakes were ok, but not even in the same universe as a set of Vee's.

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    Old GT's

    Here's my old Backwoods. All Alivio running gear. A '93 I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Kart Motzart
    You're kidding right? GT held on to U-brakes because of their triple triangle frame. Your heel would have hit canti's due to the much lower chainstays. U-Brakes were ok, but not even in the same universe as a set of Vee's.

    My contribution below...


    You'rre kidding right? Gt used U-brakes in the rear because it was the best brake for the rear end of a bike at the time, especially when mounted up top. Some think it still is. When weight became an issue and lower profile canti's became available they switched. Originally Shimano didn't make canti's in more than one size. Then the v's came along.

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    lots of nice Karakorams out there!

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyNobody
    I got a Karakorum in the mid '90s. Put a bomber z3 on it, raceface cranks, WTB rims... Best fitting and one of the best riding bikes I'd ever been on. I got it because I thought it was a tough-ass bike that would last me forever. In Thunder Bay there ware always about 10 old ones I would see from time to time that were destined for a third decade of heavy use. SURPRISE!!! Mine broke at the chainstay about two-and-a-half years later. GT had then discontinued the Karakorum and I wound up with an ill-fitting backwoods frame.

    Take care of that baby. And if its too big, send it to me. I still miss my baby
    You need to check craigslist and ebay often. There's lots of nice Karakorams out there. Even some NOS frames. What size do you need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    You need to check craigslist and ebay often. There's lots of nice Karakorams out there. Even some NOS frames. What size do you need?
    I've been watching ebay for years looking for one of those red Karakorams like Go Kart's. Actually, I've been looking prety much since I sold mine in 92. Dumb move...
    I'd buy a 16" if I found one. Would also grab the 91 Avalanche with the "Daktari white" finish. That was the bike I wanted but couldn't afford, so I got the Karakoram instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT_guy
    I've been watching ebay for years looking for one of those red Karakorams like Go Kart's. Actually, I've been looking prety much since I sold mine in 92. Dumb move...
    I'd buy a 16" if I found one. Would also grab the 91 Avalanche with the "Daktari white" finish. That was the bike I wanted but couldn't afford, so I got the Karakoram instead.

    Isn't that black reynolds Karakoram frame in the mtbr classifieds a 16" it's only like $69 NOS

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    Found some pics of past GT's ..............now sadly long gone

    GT karakoram elite..............

    GT karakoram.............

    And one frame I just got, and might keep, GT zaskar LE Red annodized........



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    Quote Originally Posted by Built4Speed
    I'm not sure how old this one is but I'm thinking about 1987/88,all Suntour XCE. I found this one in a pile of bikes on the side of the street,dumped there by a home owner cleaning out his backyard.
    I cleaned it up and pumped the tires and she was ready to go.But during a recent ride the bottom bracket started to make really loud grinding noises sounding like a mountain lion in heat. It just happened to be at the same trail where a mountain lion was spotted a week earlier. I'm pretty sure the trail users weren't amused.
    Based on components and the purple pearl, I am pretty sure it is an 89 or 90. IIRC the 88, which was the first year of production of Mtn bikes for GT, had Deore on it. Plus the 88 had either a red or black/white crackled paint finish.

    I had the first GT Avalanche sold in Atlanta. Actually, we were one of the first GT Mtn bike dealers in that area and we sold the snot out of them. I'll scan a picture of it later and post it up. By the time I took the picture it had lost its GT cranks in favor of 185mm Bullseyes and featured a few other tastie pieces from that era. I actually wish I still owned it, but it went away so I could get a first generation Skunk Works M2. Big disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Isn't that black reynolds Karakoram frame in the mtbr classifieds a 16" it's only like $69 NOS
    I don't see that ad. Is it still listed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallen
    Why did GT hold on to the U-brake thing for so long? Its my least favorite part of my team avalanche....

    BTW - My first mountain bike was a 1988 GT Tequesta with Suntour XCE
    I'm with DeeEight. One of my favorite things about the earlier GTs were that they stuck with the u-brake stud (making the swap to a rollercam possible). I'm still watching for an early 16" Xizang with the u-brake studs. To each their own I guess...

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    How were you all able to run rollercams on the rear? I ran a set on the front on my '88 Avalanche, but there wasn't enough room to properly route the cable for roller cams on the rear. And that was on a 20" frame mind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retrobikeguy
    Found some pics of past GT's ..............now sadly long gone

    GT karakoram elite..............

    GT karakoram.............

    And one frame I just got, and might keep, GT zaskar LE Red annodized........



    ugliest lot of bikes ever............to each his own is right...............yuck!!

    no offense to you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    How were you all able to run rollercams on the rear? I ran a set on the front on my '88 Avalanche, but there wasn't enough room to properly route the cable for roller cams on the rear. And that was on a 20" frame mind you.
    You had to run a cable on each side of the cam to keep it from pulling to the side, but it worked great. XCD-6000s in particular worked great.

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    Hmm, that's what I figured you did. I tried it and didn't really like the way the cable loop clamped onto the cam so I gave up and stuck with U brakes on the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    Hmm, that's what I figured you did. I tried it and didn't really like the way the cable loop clamped onto the cam so I gave up and stuck with U brakes on the rear.

    A toggle cam would be the answer here. A roller cam would be a mess on a GT.

    I dont think U brakes have more power than a properly set up canti either. U brakes have less leverage as is seen by the large amounts of pad clearance.

    Heres a pic of the toggle cam. It works well being pulled from off center. The toggle cam is by far the best rim brake Ive ever experienced bar none.

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    I don't remember where I stole theese pictures, but it's a pretty Xizang anyway

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    Check out this dandy 1994 Zaskar.



    See the rest of the bike here.

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    I have a buddy with a 1994 Karakoram with probably less than 1000 miles on it. Rigid forks, LX hardware. Beautiful white bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    My "old" GT. 2000 STS1000 DS. Sold it a few years ago.
    Nice bike but you are mistaking it for a year 2000'. When it is actually a 1997 or 1998'. The years 1999'-2000' were I-Drives.

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    I hadn't seen a GT mountain bike in years until this past week, when I had 2 Zaskars and a LTS all hanging in the shop at the same time for tune-ups , and now this thread. Never could stand them myself, but they looked cool (sorta).

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    My two GT's.

    A Zaskar and a Backwoods. The zaskar still is the main race bike. That is why it has some new school stuff on it. The Backwoods is set up as SS and brings me to my work!
    There is a xzizang at the lbs that I'd like to have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Williwoods
    ugliest lot of bikes ever............to each his own is right...............yuck!!

    no offense to you all

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    Non taken, just an individuals taste I suppose ! Yuck !!............bless his little cotton socks

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    An old photo of my first mountain bike, a '93 Team Scream painted Bravado LE (chro-moly). It was too small for me, and I wound up getting rid of it for a larger Fat Chance Yo Eddy, but I would still like to have this bike again. If anyone knows of where to find this frame in an 18", I'd be all over it...

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    hmmm.. 90 gt karakoram. my 1st serious bike. suntour xcd, painted blue. beautifull. and the fit was the best i ever had in a bike.. what is it that GTs give such a good fit? they are kind of ritchey like in numbers aren't they? btw.. that karakoram weighed a ton.
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    here's my babe.... still riding here today. solid bit of kit!


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    OOoooh, a mango Flite. Nice saddle—very tough to find. I have two lime green ones, myself.


    Does anyone else see old GTs becomming popular among the vintage crowd in the near future, because EVERYONE seemed to own one at some point? I think that's the strongest vibe in vintage collecting of anything—the fact that you try to re-acquire what you once had and enjoyed.

    I know that drives a lot of my collection, for sure.
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    rare? didnt know that. all i do know is that without padded shorts its a very uncomfy saddle for my 177lb weight!!

    tbh, i love my bike - love the geometry. loads of people over here are getting back into hardtails for some reason - GT's are picking up - mind you, there's some good kit on ebay. and a lot of fake zaskar LE's!!!

    i've had mine since about 98 i think. bad practice i know, but still on original cables and hubs / BB still original. even had an offer for my front hub, the GT own brand one, by a guy at the LBS! says it looks mint!

    very proud of my baby. got a couple of maxxis holy rollers on order and at some point i'll be giving my indy s's their first service. would love new forks but finances wont allow ( donations welcomed!!!

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    I have just pulled out my old ('88 or '89) Timberline for conversion to a commuter bike. This baby had the U-brake mounted under the chainstays (really bad idea), front cantilever, biopace crankset, exage trail shifters (SIS rear/friction front) and brake levers, and a whopping 18-speeds. Everything is still original, with the exception of the crankset (even though I didn't know any better I always hated the biopace), tires (I do have a set of Specialized Ground Control Black Max 26x1.95 tires from approximately the same time period), chain, and seat. I will try to remember to post some pictures if I get around to it.

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    Here's my 90's Zixang

    Cool to have one with half and half frame. Very cool riding bike stiff as $%^t.
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    Good job!

    Cool to have one with half and half frame. Very cool riding bike stiff as $%^t.
    Lovin them 1/2'n'1/2 xizangs, and great condition too with original XT
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    '98 Zaskar LE converted to SS commuter - love that frame:



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    1991 GT Avalanche DX/XT with pic >>>>



    1991 GT Avalanche all original parts less tires, barends, waterbottle cages, and toe clips. All the other parts on it suprisingly are the original parts when I bought it in 1992. I have it apart for cleaning now and intend to replace the worn parts, cables etc.

    Really like the Daktari White GT Paint scheme which was only available on this DX/XT equipt model. A little bit on the hefty side .....but hey so am I.

    A bit of a unique model year in that the frame and fork is constructed with Prestige Concept tubing. The GT stem has a detachable face and will "flip flop" as GT terms it to provide more a upright cruiser position if desired. Also the famous rear Shimano DX U Brake and including the adjustable fork dropouts that allow one to increase or decrease the wheelbase of the bike by about 2cm.

    This one will really clean up nice. I intend to keep it as close to how I bought it new. I'll post better pics when I am done.

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    Greetings All

    I've got a 1989 GT Avalanche -- components are ALL the same ones that were on the bike the day I purchased it brand new from a dealer in Honolulu, HI -- with less than 10 hours total riding time. There's not a thing wrong with it, aside from loss of air in the tires & the chain oil having dried a bit over the years.

    It's a great bike, I just couldn't get comfortable riding it -- or ANY bike -- due to having been in one severe bike wreck at age 4 (got crushed under a grown man, broke my nose, road rash face, mangled ankle...) and another at age 11 (multiple compound fractured arm that almost had to be amputated & required several surgeries...). Anxieties & stress overshadow any sense of pleasure from biking for me. No self-pity intended here, I'm really cool with it being that way, especially since there's more love-to-do/PTSD-free stuff to do than I'll ever have time for anyway.

    I'm FINALLY thinking of selling my bike. I'd prefer not to part with it because it has considerable aesthetic appeal to me (LOVE that triple triangle frame!) but money is wayyyyy tight at present.

    Thing is I have NO idea what my bike is worth now, what I could reasonably expect to sell it for and what the best options of how/where to go about selling it might be.

    Think full price on the bike was about $1100.

    Any insights, tips, guidance, opinions and/or general information would be DEEPLY appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tompahpe
    Greetings All

    I've got a 1989 GT Avalanche -- components are ALL the same ones that were on the bike the day I purchased it brand new from a dealer in Honolulu, HI -- with less than 10 hours total riding time. There's not a thing wrong with it, aside from loss of air in the tires & the chain oil having dried a bit over the years.

    It's a great bike, I just couldn't get comfortable riding it -- or ANY bike -- due to having been in one severe bike wreck at age 4 (got crushed under a grown man, broke my nose, road rash face, mangled ankle...) and another at age 11 (multiple compound fractured arm that almost had to be amputated & required several surgeries...). Anxieties & stress overshadow any sense of pleasure from biking for me. No self-pity intended here, I'm really cool with it being that way, especially since there's more love-to-do/PTSD-free stuff to do than I'll ever have time for anyway.

    I'm FINALLY thinking of selling my bike. I'd prefer not to part with it because it has considerable aesthetic appeal to me (LOVE that triple triangle frame!) but money is wayyyyy tight at present.

    Thing is I have NO idea what my bike is worth now, what I could reasonably expect to sell it for and what the best options of how/where to go about selling it might be.

    Think full price on the bike was about $1100.

    Any insights, tips, guidance, opinions and/or general information would be DEEPLY appreciated.

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    Just so you know...'for sale' type posts are not allowed in the MTBR.com forums...and your post is looking a lot like a sales pitch...

    Put it on eBay for $99 and let it ride.
    Put it on your local craigslist.
    Or put it in the MTBR.com classifieds.
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    Have anyone seen 1990 Team Avalanche?(not just Avalanche)

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    Clarification on GT Avalanche Post

    Sorry my post looked like a sales pitch! I'm new to this forum and didn't even know posting bikes for sale is a no-no -- I was absolutely sincere about THINKING about selling my bike & that I'm seeking INFORMATION. Only trying to educate myself here, that's all. My hope was to hear from some GT savvy members because attempts to get info from local bike shops & Pacific Cycles (took over GT in 2001) proved fruitless and I know there are a lot of passionate mountain bikers out there with enough knowledge on about any aspect of bikes to fill an encyclopedia set devoted to the subject.

    What would help a lot would be stuff like hearing what other people sold old GTs for, if perhaps it's smarter NOT to sell it (i.e., possible higher value in the future as a collectible, which there's been some speculating about on these forums)...the kind of stuff that might help me avoid total stupidity & regret in deciding what to do/how to do it...and if it's worth doing anything at all in the first place!

    Also, I brought the bike up from the basement & noted more details, as given below. I'd like to ask whether or not these details impact what the bike might be worth.

    FRAME:
    GT Avalanche
    All Terra
    Prestige CR-MO
    Double-Butted Tubes
    Tange

    SERIAL NUMBER:
    17267 0061
    (last four digits are upside down, or maybe it's the first set & I read them upside down!)

    WHEELS(??):
    Shimano Deore DX

    RIMS:
    Araya RM-17

    TIRES:
    Ritchey MegaBite 26x2.0

    SHIFTERS:
    Shimano Deore DX

    BRAKES:
    Shimano Deore STI / SLR (? unsure what this means)

    CRANKS:
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    PEDALS:
    Sakae Low Fat

    STRAPS:
    GT

    SEAT:
    GT Super Soft

    Lastly I could be wrong on the year, there's a registration sticker (required in Hawaii) dated 1991 so it's possible the bike was made anywhere between 1987 & 1991...not sure if it matters although seems strange to be unable to say how old the bike is IF I do decide to try selling it.

    If anyone could help with KNOWLEDGE about this bike, I'd be very grateful.

    Respectfully,
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    Response to GT Avalanche ID Help

    Here is my 1991 Avalanche. The most obvious way to date these is by the original paint scheme according to the factory brochure for 1991 (don't have it and if any former could scan one please pm me).

    This pic I took a couple of months ago. Since then I have disassembled and cleaning it part by part. I have put in about five hours of work so far only half way complete.

    As far as value goes, I have not seen others sell so "no comment". Keep it and ride it! There great and hard to find anything like it.

    More pics when I complete this cow.

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    Pipelock, I believe I have the original splatter painted flip-flop GT stem for your Av. I think it would look better on your bike than in my parts box...
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    They're not exactly vintage, but I've got a '94 GT RTS-3 full suspension bike (purple and silver!) that was my first mountain bike and a '98 GT Lightning ti. hardtail that was my second mountain bike. I've always had an affinity for GT since my BMX days (late 70's/early 80's). I'll try to get some pics and get them up here for everybody .
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    Forgot to post the "new" GT project in here... '95/96-ish Psyclone




    The direction of the build seems to be jumping all over the map for me right now. Not sure where to take it exactly.
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    My 92 Avalanche

    Hi All,

    Here's my Avalanche that I've had since new.

    The original 3D forks have been swapped to Quardra 5s then to Manitou 4s (after realising how crap the Quadra 5s were). The flip flop stem has been swapped after it cracked but the rest is fairly original and still in great condition for its age.
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    Kicking myself for not keeping my original Avalanche LE prestige bike. Man those bike were great. Crudley you've done a great job keeping yours up. Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Kicking myself for not keeping my original Avalanche LE prestige bike. Man those bike were great. Crudley you've done a great job keeping yours up. Congrats!
    Gee thanks. In hindsight the earlier GTs had alot of character and are well thought out. I have thought about selling the Avalanche in the past but I just couldn't let it go.

    All the little GT extras like the groove tubes, the stamped top tube butt, ovalised tubing and adjustable fork rakes. Who really cares if they worked, they are cool additions. I almost bought a Marin Eldridge Grade at the time but who can resist a triple triangle and a wierd paint job ?

    My move to the land of dually on an early Santa Cruz Heckler helped to save it. That bike is another story and highly recommended for putting a big goofy smile on your face ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Has anyone ever heard Rishi go by at full throttle?
    Yes Norba Nat'l in Traverse City, Michigan he smoked everyone that day. Wasn't even a race, I think he won by over 6 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Yes Norba Nat'l in Traverse City, Michigan he smoked everyone that day. Wasn't even a race, I think he won by over 6 minutes.
    I think I have that one on tape. Fat Tire Journal!
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    Building up a 1993 Xizang

    So I bought my original dream frame from back in the day...a pretty clean 1993 (I think) Xizang.

    Do I need to use a U-Brake? I tried to quickly put some V-brakes on but they didn't want to seat properly.

    Thanks!

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    It depends upon the frame size. I believe the 14.5 and maybe 16" frames stayed U-brake for a yr or two after they switched to canti's due to heel clearance issues with the canti's sticking out past the seat stays. All the 93 models shown in the 1993 GT catalog show cantilever brakes. I don't think V-brakes hit the scene until around 96. Canti's and V-brakes fit the same boss location on the frame. U-brake bosses only take u-brakes. Does the positioning look correct for the v-brake to hit the rim? If so, use a fine enery cloth on the post. I remember them being a tad snug at times. Make sure to grease the brake post also.

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    In the 1992 catalog, every bike has a rear U-brake, in 93 none of them do. The 93 Xizang had XTR cantis.

    Do the brake bosses have the 3 holes along side for the spring pin to fit into? If they do, they were made for cantis, the GTs with U-brakes would be missing them. Also, the location of the posts in relation to the rim are different with cantis and U-brakes, so you must use the type the frame was built for.

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    Thanks for the help...they do fit canti/V's...they were just being finicky last night.

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    my Zaskar

    I had been wanting to build up a single speed for awhile but wanted to do it on the cheap. A buddy wanted to get rid of his old GT bike. It had a crappy paint job and missing half of the parts. What it did come with was the Spin wheels, the suspension seatpost and the handlebars. Other than that, I invested about $100 for the chain tensioner, cog and spacer kit and slapped on the MX Comps and maguras and cranks I had laying around the garage. It's a fun bike to ride!!!
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    Anyone know anything about this one?
    It's my "run the dog" bike.
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    This was an '86 model just two years before they introduced the new (for GT) Triple-Triangle design. That year they also had a "downhill model (Outback?) with full chrome frame and a 24" rear wheel. Both frames have alot of Gary Turner's BMX frame influence including the pierced top tube, 18+ inch chainstays and horizonal drop-outs. Yours originally came with a Suntour XC Sport rollercam in the back, which it looks like you replaced with a Dia-Compe 990 u-brake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filegiant
    This was an '86 model just two years before they introduced the new (for GT) Triple-Triangle design. That year they also had a "downhill model (Outback?) with full chrome frame and a 24" rear wheel. Both frames have alot of Gary Turner's BMX frame influence including the pierced top tube, 18+ inch chainstays and horizonal drop-outs. Yours originally came with a Suntour XC Sport rollercam in the back, which it looks like you replaced with a Dia-Compe 990 u-brake.
    Yeah, that rollercam wouldn't operate anymore...before I knew what I had on my hands...I dumped it...

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    Any idea of BB size on those early Xizangs? 68 or 73?

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    My 91 Xizang (which was sold as a frame set only back then) has a 73mm BB shell width. I think all except 90, the first year were 73mm.

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    New question here. U-brake

    Hi,

    I have just got a old steel gt frame (for free!). I have figure out that I need to use a U-brake in the rear. My question is can I use the lever from my V-brakes that I initially planned to use? I plan to put a V-brake in the front and it would look kind of odd to have different levers and difficult to get used to. I am not sure which model it is. Heavier than my kona kilauea for sure but judging from the previous owner it shouldn't be a low-end model. Is there any easy way of telling the models apart (it was bare steel when I got it and now I have had it powder coated so that might rule out some identification options).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano
    Hi,

    I have just got a old steel gt frame (for free!). I have figure out that I need to use a U-brake in the rear. My question is can I use the lever from my V-brakes that I initially planned to use? I plan to put a V-brake in the front and it would look kind of odd to have different levers and difficult to get used to. I am not sure which model it is. Heavier than my kona kilauea for sure but judging from the previous owner it shouldn't be a low-end model. Is there any easy way of telling the models apart (it was bare steel when I got it and now I have had it powder coated so that might rule out some identification options).
    Is the serial number still legible? If so, what is the first digit should be a letter "H", "S", or other? If it's an H, GT had it built at Taiwan-Hodaka and they made mopst of the GT's from the Karakoram up in the line. If it's an S or maybe SF it was probably built by SanFa. Most of the 400 dollar and under models Timberline, Talera, Outpost and Outpost Trail were built there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Is the serial number still legible? If so, what is the first digit should be a letter "H", "S", or other? If it's an H, GT had it built at Taiwan-Hodaka and they made mopst of the GT's from the Karakoram up in the line. If it's an S or maybe SF it was probably built by SanFa. Most of the 400 dollar and under models Timberline, Talera, Outpost and Outpost Trail were built there.

    Well I finally manage to get to the store where I keep the frame and checked the serial number: T 90016923

    Not quite sure how to interpret this. Does it mean that the frame was built in taiwan-hodaka in january, 1990?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano
    Well I finally manage to get to the store where I keep the frame and checked the serial number: T 90016923

    Not quite sure how to interpret this. Does it mean that the frame was built in taiwan-hodaka in january, 1990?
    Wow that's an oldie. That one was built by Taioku, hence the "T" at the beginning.

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    I don't see nearly enough GT's at our shop but when I do I am always impressed at how well they're made and how well they hold up after years and years of use.

    They're on the list of things I'd like to find when I go on bike hunting safaris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Wow that's an oldie. That one was built by Taioku, hence the "T" at the beginning.
    any idea of age and possible model? The end-cap of the top tube, where the logo is, is flat if that helps. I'll try to get some pics as well. Cable routing for the rear brake is inside the top-tube.
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    my old old LTS and my new old LTS

    Here are my 2 pride and joys.

    Thsi one i have owned one since new,



    this one i have finished building 2-3 weeks ago.



    looking to build a hardtail in the not to distant future , probably a Zaskar or Xizang.

    will see how the finances go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano
    any idea of age and possible model? The end-cap of the top tube, where the logo is, is flat if that helps. I'll try to get some pics as well. Cable routing for the rear brake is inside the top-tube.
    Yes Sacamano, a pic would help. If your rear brake cable is internally routed it's definitely a higher end model. Perhaps a Cyclone, a Psyclone or Bravado LE. I think those were the only steel frames GT produced with internally routed rear brake cables. The Xizang Ti frame also had internal routing in 90 and 91. Is it actually internally routed through the top tube or is it the "Groove Tube" top tube design that GT used for a few years with and indented bottom of the top tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Yes Sacamano, a pic would help. If your rear brake cable is internally routed it's definitely a higher end model. Perhaps a Cyclone, a Psyclone or Bravado LE. I think those were the only steel frames GT produced with internally routed rear brake cables. The Xizang Ti frame also had internal routing in 90 and 91. Is it actually internally routed through the top tube or is it the "Groove Tube" top tube design that GT used for a few years with and indented bottom of the top tube?
    my 1990 karakoram had internal cable routing. beautifull bike. heavy as a brickwall.
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    This is the bike that I walked in for a 10 speed for and walked out with a lifestyle...1990ish Tequesta. Still have the frameset sititng in the spare bike room. I'll ride it again someday.

    This was probably 1999.
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    '91 Zaskar LE



    All XT groupo- came with a mag20. I rigged it up for commute with slicks, rack and a 50t chainring. changed out the seatpost for a dean Ti. aside from that it's all stock.
    Still running! My wife loves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GT_guy
    I've been watching ebay for years looking for one of those red Karakorams like Go Kart's. Actually, I've been looking prety much since I sold mine in 92. Dumb move...
    I'd buy a 16" if I found one.
    If you were interested in a purple haze 16" Karakoram I have one that has very few miles on it.

    When I bought it from the used sports store, it still had nubs on the rotten tires and a rock hard gel saddle. I think someone bought it for their wife and it was a garage bike. I still have the stock build for it, I just changed a few parts on it to make it a beginner trials bike. I think I've ridden it less than 10 times in the 3 or 4 years I've had it.

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    Old GTs

    Here's a pic of me in an exhibition mtb race in 1985 in Atlanta. I'm on my first real mtb bike, a GT. I dont remember what the model was (maybe a Timberline?)





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    Found a pic of it from just after I rebuilt it 3 years ago on my home computer.



    Ya, the orange saddle is gone.

    I need to find a pic of my Avalanche of the same vintage (same paint too).

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    Before and After,,,,,

    Just restored 92 AVALANCHE, still doesn't look good, but its rideable now
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigH
    If you were interested in a purple haze 16" Karakoram I have one that has very few miles on it.
    Wow, it's been over a year since I posted that!

    Back in November I scored this 92 Outpost that has a similar paint job to the 91 Karakoram.



    I planned on making it a singlespeed since it has semi-horizontal dropouts.

    Then a couple weeks later a 91 Karakoram came up, so I had to grab it. I bought a 2003 Giant locally to steal parts off of and recently finished my resto-mod.
    Maybe the only 9-speed '91 Karakoram around. It'll be my Rail-Trail bike this summer.


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    Bought this a while back - not sure why - think the pretty colour caught my eye !

    Wanted -girvin cranks, tubular steel - not the standard alloy ones

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    Raced mine just this last weekend. I sucked, but the bike was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singleminded1
    Here's a pic of me in an exhibition mtb race in 1985 in Atlanta. I'm on my first real mtb bike, a GT. I dont remember what the model was (maybe a Timberline?)




    Obviously from a time when one size fit all.

    Also looks like maybe a sideshow at something like a supercross race?

    Cool vintage pics.

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    My first real mountain bike...

    This was/is my first real mountain bike. I will always have a softspot for old GT hardtails. Although most of the parts are from back in the day, the only original parts left from when I bought it new are the frame and front derailleur.

    Frame: 96 GT Outpost (steel)
    Fork: 97' RockShox Judy XC (1" steerer) with Englund long travel kit (80mm) and Mountain Speed springs
    Seatpost: Answer Body Shock
    Brifters: XT 8 speed
    Brakes: 1st generation XT V-brake with AC booster on rear brake
    Crankset: Shimano LX
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    I always liked that color. It looks like a bar of soap, ala the old irish spring commercials.


    Quote Originally Posted by retrobikeguy
    Bought this a while back - not sure why - think the pretty colour caught my eye !


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    Phoa! I'd sell my daughter for one of those frameset! Shame I don't have a daughter

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    Very, very nice Psycolone. Did you get a lot of attention for riding that beauty?

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    Smile My old GT's

    Hi there, here are my GT's:
    1992 Avalanche:


    1993 Richter 8.0 (Custom build up this week)


    1995 Avalanche


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    nice stuff... one of the things i really loved about the old ones was teh "gt" on teh top tube and tehn the model name emblazoned on teh down tube for all to see... beautiful

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    I have a 16" GT RTS frame that i got off ebay last year - so brand new, it still had the manual book attached to the frame and guy who had built it. I have yet ot build it into a nice bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Raced mine just this last weekend. I sucked, but the bike was great.

    updated pics please
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Anyone know anything about this one?
    It's my "run the dog" bike.
    Is ebay still the best place to off-load the GT stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
    I don't see nearly enough GT's at our shop but when I do I am always impressed at how well they're made and how well they hold up after years and years of use.

    They're on the list of things I'd like to find when I go on bike hunting safaris.
    So I went on safari and bagged myself a 96 (?) GT Karakoram that has now been rebuilt as a rigid fixed gear.

    It's the shizzle.

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    old GT RTS

    Bought an old GT RTS today. $350 was what I paid. It has nice aftermarket stuff. I bought a Salsa seatpost calmp and skewers today, had to get something. This was the bike I wanted in high school, but I could not afford it in 93. Let me know what you guys think. The guy I bought it from said that there is nothing stock except the frame. Seems to be that way. I have been out of the sport for 13 years. A lot has changed.

    My questions are-

    What year does it appear to be?

    Who sells old GT parts, the guy at the shop says that I need new bushings in the rear suspension.

    Did I get a decent deal?

    I think it is a cool bike and I am happy to be riding again.
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    Hi guys, just found this thread ... heres a pic of my bike -- I bought it off ebay last summer minus the front shock, think I got a great deal. I'm starting to think it's a late 90's Zaskar LE. What do you guys think? Thanks

    More here: https://phlite.net/gallery/zaskar !


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    Quote Originally Posted by phlite
    Hi guys, just found this thread ... heres a pic of my bike -- I bought it off ebay last summer minus the front shock, think I got a great deal. I'm starting to think it's a late 90's Zaskar LE. What do you guys think? Thanks

    More here: https://phlite.net/gallery/zaskar !

    If it works well for you that's what counts but, since you asked: With the saddle moved all the way back in that semi-setback seatpost and the seatpost positioned where it is, combined with a long riser stem, I'd wager a guess that the frame is a bit small for you. It also looks a bit raked out with that Manitou Black fork on there.

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    Psyclone, Xizang and Zaskar

    Here are my three bikes of the competition series.


    GT Psyclone


    GT Xizang


    GT Zaskar

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    Hi Guys,

    I'm a biker chic from the UK and I've just found this great forum. I used to own a GT Tequesta - the lovely turquoise one a few posts up. I also bought my brother the snazzy splashed paint effect white Avalanche.

    I thought I'd share my real pride and joy with you though as I sadly send her to eBay heaven. It's a GT RTS Team frame, built up in the late 90's for me by one of the legends of the UK mountainbiking scene - Dave Hemming. I'm hoping to buy a new women's specific full susser and get out riding again, but I'm finding it hard to let go of my lovely steed. Comments welcome.





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    I just figured out this is a June 93 frame, the rest of the bike parts were added in 97ish.
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    Right click on the picture itself. A menu should appear and then you left click on the word Properties. You will see https://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/...588442.jpg?v=0 Copy the address to your clipboard. Ctrl-C works for me. Then click "Insert Image" from the toolbar at the top of where you type your message. Paste (Ctrl-V) the address and click OK.

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    Heres my '99 GT Xizang.

    It still has mostly '99 parts on it but I am in the process of *finally* replacing most parts as they are super worn out with many thousands of miles on them.

    After 8 years of riding it I just stripped the paint off a few weeks ago. I like it better this way.

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    STS frame

    Not exactly vintage, but was a fun bike!
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    hi, i just got this GT bike that i would like to know what model but i cant post the pics, too big..dont know if this help i got the serial nos. S7JA1777 , its not a whole bike its just frame,Rockshox indySL fork,rim mavic 221, hub is shimano paralaxx and the crank is a shimano deore LX the one with spider, sorry for posting this ive posted this from the other forum but no answers. thanks

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    If it's an aluminum frame i's likely an Avalanche. Post a pic that will help.

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    yes its an aluminum, i tried post it here, but its to big, ill try making it smaller, ill try again. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by singleminded1
    Here's a pic of me in an exhibition mtb race in 1985 in Atlanta. I'm on my first real mtb bike, a GT. I dont remember what the model was (maybe a Timberline?)





    I had that same helmet!! A red Vetta to go with my second mountian bike I bought. A '88 red GT Karakoram. I desparately wanted the black crackle finish but after waiting 3 months my LBS said they could get it in red instead and I caved. I rode that bike until '98, putting about 10,000 miles on it (mostly before 1995 when I got married). It's currently being resurected as a single speed. I'm debating wether I should repaint it or leave it original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_Canoe
    I had that same helmet!! A red Vetta to go with my second mountian bike I bought. A '88 red GT Karakoram.
    Can you post a pic of that bike please?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT_guy
    Can you post a pic of that bike please?
    Thanks.

    Here it is, scanned off an old photo complete with matching Vetta helmet. Currently, it's hanging in my garage covered in old mud. A little winter riding in '89 (I got the bike computer for X-mas '88), Sault Ste. Marie, Canada. (Dang, I look young there )



    20" frame
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    Thanks!
    Here's mine, which I think is an 89.


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    1990 Team Avalanche

    Quote Originally Posted by alohachiimoku
    Have anyone seen 1990 Team Avalanche?(not just Avalanche)
    This is the one(pic) I'm talking about. I believe only sold for Japanese market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alohachiimoku
    This is the one(pic) I'm talking about. I believe only sold for Japanese market.
    No, This model was sold in the USA. it's either an 89 or 90 model. I sold them and I owned one the year before I purchased my Xizang. Frame is actually a deep midnite blue almost black with light blue strings of paint accenting the frame. It was sold as a complete bike with top mount 7spd Deore XT which was the best you could by at the time. Pre fropnt suspension and Pre XTR. Pre GT aluminum days even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    No, This model was sold in the USA. it's either an 89 or 90 model. I sold them and I owned one the year before I purchased my Xizang. Frame is actually a deep midnite blue almost black with light blue strings of paint accenting the frame. It was sold as a complete bike with top mount 7spd Deore XT which was the best you could by at the time. Pre fropnt suspension and Pre XTR. Pre GT aluminum days even.
    I remember that color scheme called ''BLUE WIDOW'', very similar paint with 89 XIZANG.

    Never seen that 90 Team Avalanche here in US, and 90s GT catalog either,,,,,
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    Ah yes, Blue widow. Good memory aloha! I don't think there was an 89 Xizang that was painted. Wasn't the 89 or 90 Xizang the one with Ti front and Chromoly rear triangle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Ah yes, Blue widow. Good memory aloha! I don't think there was an 89 Xizang that was painted. Wasn't the 89 or 90 Xizang the one with Ti front and Chromoly rear triangle?
    89 Xizang made with all Cr-Mo. (I believe)

    I originally purchase 90 Team Avalanche in Japan, lots of memories
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    I'm sitting here salivating over your titanium, steel and alu classics...

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    My new project bike, also new member here, been out of the game for a few years



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    Quote Originally Posted by retrobikeguy
    Bought this a while back - not sure why - think the pretty colour caught my eye !


    had the exact same bike. it lasts forever..
    WTB: Bomber Z2 1 1/8 steerer, in good to excellent shape OR bomber rebuild kit.

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    Sweet bikes. I have an early-80s 26" cruiser set up w/MTB bars for SS racing(my wife raced it at the inaugural Cool Classic). I'll try & get pics up; I'm computer-retarded & my net guru/esposa is at work. She also had a 16" Xijang for awhile- we sold it to a friend who will likely not ride it; I wonder if I should try to get it back & sell it to some psychotic vintage MTBR guy..?
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    I've never owned a GT but I've had plenty of friends who have.

    I have a friend with a 97ish Zaskar, his brother has a same year Avalanche LE.

    I also had a friend way back in the day that had a Timberline FS, and I almost bought a Karakoram back in the day myself

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    Here are some of my retro GTs...

    - All original 94 GT Tequesta, including full 7 speed STX running gear, original hand grips, cables & WTB tires. The previous owner added Onza bar ends & I've also swapped the rigid fork for a RS Mag 21. A quick ride on it is a good reminder to how much we have progressed in bicycle technology in past 10 years.

    - A GT Lighting titanium, I do not know the actual vintage but I suspect it to be a 96-97 model. The bike was in poor state when I had it imported, so it was stripped down & kitted it out with some modern day running gears. Found some vintage Xizang decals on eBay as I couldn't find any authentic Lightning decals - so not quiet as authentic as others in this forum. The ride quality is far more easy on the arse than my 04 Zaskar with similar running gears. This will be my enduro racer of choice & while keeping the Zaskar for the sprint events.

    - A GT Bravado, again, I do not know the vintage of this but from the decals onboard, it appears to be a late 90s GT Bravado. Reynolds 631 double butted chromoly tubes with GT chromoly fork. Turned into my daily commuter bike - light, fast and can handle anything that my road bike cannot, and easily converted back to a proper MTB shall I decide to scare myself by riding a full rigid someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass-o-matic
    Bought an old GT RTS today. $350 was what I paid. It has nice aftermarket stuff. I bought a Salsa seatpost calmp and skewers today, had to get something. This was the bike I wanted in high school, but I could not afford it in 93. Let me know what you guys think. The guy I bought it from said that there is nothing stock except the frame. Seems to be that way. I have been out of the sport for 13 years. A lot has changed.

    My questions are-

    What year does it appear to be?

    Who sells old GT parts, the guy at the shop says that I need new bushings in the rear suspension.

    Did I get a decent deal?

    I think it is a cool bike and I am happy to be riding again.

    It appears to be a 92 era RTS, as i believe after that they went to aluminium rear stars - i could be wrong??

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    Here is mine. I think its a 1994 but I bought it in 1993.
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    I picked up a '94 Tequesta for $75 on Craiglist last week. Not too bad condition but I am going to send the frame to Airglow to get restored. Yesterday I found an uncut Mag 21 at a flea market and got it for $50 to replace the rigid fork. But anyway, I came across this link that some of you may be interested in. The GT catalogues from 1990-1998.

    http://www.mtb-kataloge.de/html/gt.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonXC
    Here is mine. I think its a 1994 but I bought it in 1993.
    Great pic... now I know what my Kark would probably look like if it was in it's original form

    I found my frame lingering at our shop and after seeing the horizontal drops that had been added knew it had to be turned into an ss or a fixed gear.

    I went for the fixed option and recently added the riser bars and touched up the frame a little since the rear stays were a little scruffy looking from the new welds and the removal of the rear brake bosses.

    It's a fabulous bike for XC riding and the folks who think it's insane for me to be riding a fixed gear think I should be committed for riding one off road.

    It doesn't really get any better than this for me.

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    Thanks - that's a great link - good to see all those old GT catalogues & see what was made back in the GT glory days.

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    when I got it:



    as of tonight:




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    No one else has a pantera? I just resurected one from my garage. An old roomate left it and it had been at the beach for a while. Most of the running gear and BB were shot. I converted it to a single speed yesterday and pitched all of the old deraliers, etc. I moght go try to dig them out of the trash after reading these posts? It an Aluminum frame w/ a cro-mo fork. Was this below the zaskar but above the avalanche in the price range? I'll post a pic tomorrow. I am guessing its from 89-91??
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    I've got 2 (yes two !! ) 1991/2 Avalanche framesets that I'm restoring/rebuilding.

    1 is hopefully going to be original (STI levers, etc) the other will be period upgades that I have (XT thumbies, Mavic rims, etc).

    Just to confirm, they did have ARAYA RM 17 rims didn't they ?? ??

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    Here is my GT Pantera Aluminum converted to SS. It came with diacomp MXC? brakes and Suntour XC ltd components I think. I dont know what year anyone have an idea?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Because they were more powerful than cantilevers and in a sensible location on the seatstays they worked well. It was putting them on the chainstays (usually under them) which earned them a bad rep. Cantilevers were more powerful than say, V-brakes, but less so than U's, so GT only ran rear U-brakes lest customers launch themselves over the bars via locking up front brake/wheel.

    The comical part to v-brakes for me is that they've basically totally killed off brake booster sales/production. Back in cantilever/u-brake days, you almost HAD to have a booster plate to keep from breaking your fork/frame. Now with V's, no need for them anymore. Yet people insist v's are more powerful. LOL.

    A guy I know repeatedly BENT brake studs on frames/forks whenever he tried running a Scott Pedersen SE brake without a booster.
    Actually, brake boosters died off because V-brakes effectively forced frame builders to use stronger, stiffer seatstays because V's deliver more power than Canti's (V's are in fact as powerful as U-brakes, with better tire clearance). The first couple years of V's were the golden age of brake boosters for this reason (And that's why many brake boosters fit V's but not canti's, the post holding the unthreaded brake pads on the canti's foul the boosters). Nowadays, with discs putting as much or more stress on the seatstay than any rim brake, seatstays are easily srong enough to run any rim brake sans booster.

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    Ironhorse man, that be the year of 1992

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrown
    Ironhorse man, that be the year of 1992
    thanks bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron horseman
    No one else has a pantera? I just resurected one from my garage. An old roomate left it and it had been at the beach for a while. Most of the running gear and BB were shot. I converted it to a single speed yesterday and pitched all of the old deraliers, etc. I moght go try to dig them out of the trash after reading these posts? It an Aluminum frame w/ a cro-mo fork. Was this below the zaskar but above the avalanche in the price range? I'll post a pic tomorrow. I am guessing its from 89-91??
    I'm still riding my GT Pantera AL. I bought it new in '94 (I think it cost around $800, maybe a little more). I just sort of looked it over to see what was original on it and the only original parts on it are the frame itself, the front deraileur, and the seatpost. I do still have all the original parts sitting around in boxes though.
    It's been a great bike and I now use it as kind of an all-around go anywhere bike so it's still getting a lot of mileage (mix of roads, bike paths, and trails). I do have a few other bikes, but this one still gets a lot of use.
    Warning: may contain sarcasm and/or crap made up in an attempt to feel important.

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    I've got a Pantera, but I have to admit I've never taken it on the trails. I just built it up to look cool. If I ever get around to rebuilding the forks I'll ride it... until then, it's a display bike at a GT dealership, showing how cool GT used to be.

    Oh, and Panteras were third from the top. Zaskar was the first, then Avalanche, then Pantera. This one is a '95.

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    The GT aluminum hardatil order was as follows for most of the 90's:
    Zaskar (LE)
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    Pantera
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    karakoram?

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    Early '90s Karakoram was basically the same bike as the Pantera, except with a steel frame (Pantera was aluminum)...both produced during same timeframe.

    Early '90s Avalanche was the steel derivative of the Aluminum Zaskar.

    The shop I worked for sold a lot of Karakorams vs. Panteras, but very few Avalanches (I think I only saw one or two the entire summer!). If someone wanted high end, they always went to the Zaskar. The Zaskar was a sexy aluminum frame, unlike most of the other aluminum frames during the era....plus the available anodized colors were sweet!

    I'm not sure, but I do not believe that you could order a Avalanche frame, though you could order a Zaskar frame an build as you like.

    I personally liked the steel GT frames. GT's line of steel road frames were also kick ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retroyetirigid

    Just to confirm, they did have ARAYA RM 17 rims didn't they ?? ??

    Are you asking if thats what the GT's came with stock? I don't know.

    If you're asking if RM17's were around in the early 90's, yeah, pretty sure they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo_matic
    Early '90s Karakoram was basically the same bike as the Pantera, except with a steel frame (Pantera was aluminum)...both produced during same timeframe.

    Early '90s Avalanche was the steel derivative of the Aluminum Zaskar.

    The shop I worked for sold a lot of Karakorams vs. Panteras, but very few Avalanches (I think I only saw one or two the entire summer!). If someone wanted high end, they always went to the Zaskar. The Zaskar was a sexy aluminum frame, unlike most of the other aluminum frames during the era....plus the available anodized colors were sweet!

    I'm not sure, but I do not believe that you could order a Avalanche frame, though you could order a Zaskar frame an build as you like.

    I personally liked the steel GT frames. GT's line of steel road frames were also kick ass.
    Memory jogger for you. The steel high end frame only was the PSYCLONE.

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    gm1230126, was the Psyclone the same frame as the one used on the steel Avalanche bike? You are stating that the Psclone was available as a frame only?

    I could be totally wrong (crap, that was 15 years ago and I was in Jr. High), but for some reason I thought that the Psyclone materialized as the high end steel bike when the Avalanche became aluminum ("lower end Zaskar").

    The shop did not move much GT steel, other than Karakorams. If someone wanted steel, the customer was steered to the Specialized bikes (which the shop also sold).

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    Psyclone was frame only and available before the Avalanche went aluminum.
    In 1993 The Team Avalanche was in the catalog and was tru-temper steel as was the Psyclone. The 1992 catalog showed a tru temper Avalanche model and a Psyclone as well. I have a very early model that has "Cyclone" decals on it, it is fillet brazed and has internal top tube cable routing and is made of tru temper ultra tubing. The drop outs are different from the 1992 which have a replaceable hanger.

    Mercury had a hopped up model of the Couger back in the 1960s called a Cyclone so maybe they had to change it for legal reasons or Psyclone just looked cooler I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by mojo_matic
    gm1230126, was the Psyclone the same frame as the one used on the steel Avalanche bike? You are stating that the Psclone was available as a frame only?

    I could be totally wrong (crap, that was 15 years ago and I was in Jr. High), but for some reason I thought that the Psyclone materialized as the high end steel bike when the Avalanche became aluminum ("lower end Zaskar").

    The shop did not move much GT steel, other than Karakorams. If someone wanted steel, the customer was steered to the Specialized bikes (which the shop also sold).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo_matic
    gm1230126, was the Psyclone the same frame as the one used on the steel Avalanche bike? You are stating that the Psclone was available as a frame only?

    I could be totally wrong (crap, that was 15 years ago and I was in Jr. High), but for some reason I thought that the Psyclone materialized as the high end steel bike when the Avalanche became aluminum ("lower end Zaskar").

    The shop did not move much GT steel, other than Karakorams. If someone wanted steel, the customer was steered to the Specialized bikes (which the shop also sold).
    The Psyclone was the Longmont, CO USA Made fillet brazed steel Tech Shop frame. Most of those early steel Avalanche frames were made by Toyo in Japan. When the Avalanche switched to aluminum the Bravado(LE) became the top of the line TIG welded (Taiwan) steel bike. The Psyclone was only sold as a frame set through Tech Shop dealers from 1992-whenever.

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    Very cool...thanx for the education!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo_matic
    gm1230126, was the Psyclone the same frame as the one used on the steel Avalanche bike? You are stating that the Psclone was available as a frame only?

    I could be totally wrong (crap, that was 15 years ago and I was in Jr. High), but for some reason I thought that the Psyclone materialized as the high end steel bike when the Avalanche became aluminum ("lower end Zaskar").

    The shop did not move much GT steel, other than Karakorams. If someone wanted steel, the customer was steered to the Specialized bikes (which the shop also sold).
    Sounds like Siskiyou Cyclery in Ashland, OR. I bought my first MTB from them in 1993, and tried out both a GT Timberline? and a Rockhopper Comp. I bought the Specialized.

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    mmmmmmmmmmmm GT psyclone,

    Was frame only IIRC - https://www.mtb-kataloge.de/Bikekata...DF/GT/1993.pdf

    why didn't I bid on that bloody lovely browning special that turned up on evilbay a year or so back



    did anyone off here get this beaut ?
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    My college roommate bought a Karakoram that I loved. It was a cro-mo frame that was royal blue and black - and it had the yellow Rock Shox on it. I always loved the look of that bike and it rode nice too.

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    I used to have a 93 Bravado LE, blue and yellow Team Scream paint job. It was stolen several years ago and I would love to get my hands on another one. Anyone got an 18" frame they want to get rid of?

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    Try posting a wanted ad in the MTBR classifieds vintage section. Also, the guys on vintage board seem to have connections to find just about anything.

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    GT Oupost 1992

    Here is my finished project, identical model to my 1st ever mountain bike, at 13 you dont really look after things like you should, so nearly 16 years later, with little bit of cash, access to the internet (ebay) and too much time (being single helps), i have built up this little beauty (ok its not the top end GT, but its a GT all the same)

    2x Outposts have been bought to complete this one,

    Replaced - brake blocks (obvious) Seatpost, seat, bottom bracket and handle bar grips - but with trying to keep things all GT, the grips are GT logo'd, so are the Toe clips and straps.

    All other things are original, suntour mechs and accushift shifters, handle bars, headset, brakes, chainset, and wheels, (dunno about the chain)

    It seems like the Outpost of that year at least either, came with amber or black wall cheng shin tyres, i have both, same grip pattern
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    Nice Outpost, stock down to the tires! Cool.

    Here is my latest GT creation with some slight mods from previous pics.


    2012 Specialized Stumpjumper EVO carbon 29 2010 felt solo nine SS, 1994 Zaskar ,1995 GT Pantera, 2001 Hive Ti SS....

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    95 Pantera all original down to the Tioga Psyco front tire and Judy XC. It has full STX and a vetta TT seat.

    2012 Specialized Stumpjumper EVO carbon 29 2010 felt solo nine SS, 1994 Zaskar ,1995 GT Pantera, 2001 Hive Ti SS....

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    HERE'S THE BEAST!!!!



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    This the one that was for sale on ebay from a florida seller a year back? Sweet bike. Truly original Xizang with the bolt on chromoly rear. I wanted one so bad when they first came out but heard they were going all Ti and waited a year for mine.
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    I have a '93 Tequesta. Amazing frame and paintjob, but really heavy. Soon I'll strip off the frame in order to weight it and... to replace it for a '97 Lightning ti I've just bough in Ebay.

    Love top GT steel frames (Bravado and Psyclone/Cyclone), but haven't been able to find a cheap one. Won't pay 400 bucks plus shipping costs for a Psy.

    Anyway, these are amazing bikes. And some of the pics you posted really rock.

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    Here are some pics of my Xixang.. 1997 is 10 years really vintage?













    finally started riding again after about 5 years off the bike, still rides like a dream.

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    my early 90's GT K2. This was bought new at The Clean Machine bike shop in Carrboro, NC for around $700 back in 1992. I've put a few upgrades on it since then and it's as is on the pictures shown below

    in front of our house by the bushes


    me with the Samurai haircut by the trees by the road to our house

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    Quote Originally Posted by UMMADUMMA
    HERE'S THE BEAST!!!!

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    One of the cooler GT's I've seen.
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    I'm sure everyone is sick of pics of this bike by now...but I swapped out the M900 cranks for Syncros Revolutions....just need Syncros bars to round out the package. Took it on a ride just this afternoon.

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    GO EASY WITH THEM' FORKS!!!

    SOMETIMES THEY AINT EVEN GOOD FOR THE ONE JUMP THAT THE MANUFACTURE SAYS THERE GOOD FOR!!!!

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by UMMADUMMA
    GO EASY WITH THEM' FORKS!!!

    SOMETIMES THEY AINT EVEN GOOD FOR THE ONE JUMP THAT THE MANUFACTURE SAYS THERE GOOD FOR!!!!

    lol

    ud

    The Powerlites have a bad rep for breaking? I've not heard that before.

    The cranks yes, the forks no.


    Between the cranks, rear wheel, and the fork....I'm a goner for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigH
    Found a pic of it from just after I rebuilt it 3 years ago on my home computer.



    Ya, the orange saddle is gone.

    I need to find a pic of my Avalanche of the same vintage (same paint too).
    What's the black fabric-like material on the top tube of your old GT? TIA. -GT2005
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    my newest toy










    my other gts: lts,zaskar 1991,tequesta 1990, richter 8.0, karakoram 1992,psyclone 1993 yellow,cosmic sunrise zaskar 1998




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    2.Never, never install a seatpost with a hammer.
    3.Never, never, EVER install a seatpost with a hammer
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    Here are No. 8+9 of my little GT Collection:

    1991 Zaskar (with RS Mag 21):


    1990 Avalanche (with a new Paintjob):


    Manni

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrown
    Here is my finished project, identical model to my 1st ever mountain bike, at 13 you dont really look after things like you should, so nearly 16 years later, with little bit of cash, access to the internet (ebay) and too much time (being single helps), i have built up this little beauty (ok its not the top end GT, but its a GT all the same)

    2x Outposts have been bought to complete this one,

    Replaced - brake blocks (obvious) Seatpost, seat, bottom bracket and handle bar grips - but with trying to keep things all GT, the grips are GT logo'd, so are the Toe clips and straps.

    All other things are original, suntour mechs and accushift shifters, handle bars, headset, brakes, chainset, and wheels, (dunno about the chain)

    It seems like the Outpost of that year at least either, came with amber or black wall cheng shin tyres, i have both, same grip pattern
    I found a bike just like that in the garbage a couple of years ago. It sat in the back of my truck for 6 months. Finally, I stripped it and only kept the frame, fork and stem. The handlebar was rusted to the shifters. It was painted the exact Orange with Black splatter. I'm going to have it Orange powder coated. I've got a fairly complete Deore group less wheels, cables and handle bar. Oops, forgot the weird 26.mm seatpost.

    If your bike is what a nice example looks, I can't wait to finish mine. I plan on giving it to my son for his birthday.

    Tim

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    In need of some identification

    Hey classic GT gurus, I need some serious help here. I'm getting a GT Karakoram frame from the 90's to turn into a retro single speeder but I'd like to know more info on this guy. I know its Cro-mo but that's pretty much it. I'd like to know the year, what size of head tube (1 1/8 I hope), V-brake or older brakes, and anything else you salty dogs can come up with. I appreciate your help guys. I'm getting the retro bug and I think this one will fit the bill. Here's the pic.
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    Decals appear to be 1993 vintage.

    Original Specs:
    http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...oram&Type=bike
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    Needed: 26.8mm XTR seatpost, blue GT/Grundig Jersey.

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    Hello,

    I could be mistaken here, but you might have got yourself the 1995 Mountain Biking Magzine Bike of the Year.

    I think it was made of Tange Prestige tubing, with all tubes butted, durable as hell as long as it is rust free. The frame has 1 1/8 steer tubing and will accept both old style cantilever, Magura HS33 hydraulic brakes or current crop of V-brakes.

    In terms of product ranking, GT Karakoram was only behind the ultra exotic hand build Tech Shop Psycholon framesets and GT Bravado in 95/96, so yes you've got yourself a real keeper there.

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    In 95, Karakoram was available in black and Candy Blue.
    It was purple in 93.

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    Finally she is built up


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    GT Karakoram 1992

    Another and final for a while, finished project, have some flat gt nos bars en route, but i thought i'd see how retro risers would look and feel, mostly original build. Pedals and grips, were parts just lying around
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    Halson PDS...

    Which as we all know, stood for Pretty Dam Sweet.

    My buddy had one on his Richter 8.0 back in the day.
    Citius. Altius. Fortius.

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    Blast from the past.Awesome pictures folks.Ok Here's Mine.She's Ruff but Awesome.Got BMX?????She's Gonna get an old BMX alloy flutted seatpost and an Aero Vetta seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrown
    Another and final for a while, finished project, have some flat gt nos bars en route, but i thought i'd see how retro risers would look and feel, mostly original build. Pedals and grips, were parts just lying around


    That's almost exactly like my old GT! Mine had the orange with black and white splatter paint job all over though - no yellow fade. If only I had taken photos....darn. I loved that bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miwoodar


    That's almost exactly like my old GT! Mine had the orange with black and white splatter paint job all over though - no yellow fade. If only I had taken photos....darn. I loved that bike!
    I just bought a Karakoram with the orange (looks more like scarlet) black and white splatter paint job. Near pristine condition, been hanging in the original owner's garage unused for years.

    $50.

    I'm guessing it's a '91, but does anybody know for sure?

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    I think it was a 91 or 92 but I'm not sure.

    I'll give you $75 for it !

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    Is it like this one?
    This is a '91
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    hello i want un frame or complete bike style karakoram but only steel not aluminium size 18 p, i live in france please tell me
    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by GT_guy
    Is it like this one?
    This is a '91
    Yep, that's the one! I had a hunch it's a '91, thanks for clearing that up for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiki la pince
    hello i want un frame or complete bike style karakoram but only steel not aluminium size 18 p, i live in france please tell me
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    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
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    hello , thanks for your fast answer , cool but what's yourt model of bike ? do you have a picture please
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    A DREAM COMES TRUE...............the missing link in my gt collection.
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    Is that Rumpfy's former ride? Nice pick up....1992 first year Groove tube model and the last year they had the model decal on the down tube. Your going to love it. That was the toughest link for me to fill in my collection too. There's just not many of them out there and most of those that do have them don't want to part with them.
    Needed: 26.8mm XTR seatpost, blue GT/Grundig Jersey.

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    My DH bike

    Durango 1991 National DH, I won. I wish I still had this bike. Downhill racing sure has changed huh? Notice Tinker behind me...on full Klien rigid!!

    I cracked two of these frames that year. Sandvic ended up building us customs. I gave it to my coach at the end of the season. I should have gave him cash. That frame was one of my all time favorite rides. I ended up riding for Alpinestars on a EOS full ti bike the next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git
    Anyone out there have any Xizangs, Zaskars or Pyclones (or whatever they were called)?? I loved those frames... never had any...

    OK so i love the signature tomac, and my yeti and fats... but realy this is my all time fav frame...:

    (hope its not too big)




    Sick Pic!! I love the dirt caked to my teeth in that picture. Great days, Great memories. Here's on I found in a Spainish magazine. It's from Mammoth, and yes Ned is in the hurt locker (I am too) at the 10,500ft highpiont of the course that year.

    The other is in the Hillclimb, I got 4th behind, Ned, Tim Gould, and Tomac.

    The other is from Berlin World Cup Finals, 1991, Rishi Grewal is in tow, with Mike Kluge getting drpped. I was Rishi's his workhorse that day. He got 7th for the day and second overall.
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