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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    Doug/apex,
    just checked your link. You might wanna check with wendyl about using FAT logos etc, pretty certain she still owns all the patents. just a thought

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    I will definitely try to contact Wendyl this week about the site, I certainly don't want to upset anyone. FWIW, there are no patents on logos or marks, and these particular icons have expired/dead trademarks since 1999. I certainly won't be showing them in a negative light or trying to sell any product with their common law identities, so I wouldn't think it will be an issue. As a designer, I have an appreciation for branding and what they mean to companies, even those that no longer exist, and rest-assured, there will be great care taken to keep things as they would have approved.

    This site will just be a way to strengthen the mystique of a small bike company that we all hold in high regard and still support. I hope everyone who has an interest in Fat City Cycles will take a liking to the new community I'm building.



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    Quote Originally Posted by apexspeed
    I will definitely try to contact Wendyl this week about the site, I certainly don't want to upset anyone. FWIW, there are no patents on logos or marks, and these particular icons have expired/dead trademarks since 1999. I certainly won't be showing them in a negative light or trying to sell any product with their common law identities, so I wouldn't think it will be an issue. As a designer, I have an appreciation for branding and what they mean to companies, even those that no longer exist, and rest-assured, there will be great care taken to keep things as they would have approved.

    This site will just be a way to strengthen the mystique of a small bike company that we all hold in high regard and still support. I hope everyone who has an interest in Fat City Cycles will take a liking to the new community I'm building.



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    this thread has 200 replies. if it's not reason enough to start building yo's again , at least there should be a fat chance site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    this thread has 200 replies. if it's not reason enough to start building yo's again , at least there should be a fat chance site.
    keep me posted...
    I"m interested. I did pick up the YO last week..just going through it now and taking care of some issues that I had with the current setup..anyone wanna swap some xtr 8spd shifters and rear der. for ESP? I'm not a twistie...

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    I'd certainly love to see a FAT dedicated site & I'm impressed that you've taken it on!
    I'd love to help out, perhaps as a moderator?

    I thought it only polite to ask wendyl, I know you respect this

    let me know if you need any help/ info

    colker, perhaps the fact that you cant buy FATs anymore is part of the appeal?

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    Absolutely, on all counts!

    Once everything has started to take shape, I will get everyone here in as soon as there is something to see. I'm excited, because communities like this, if built correctly, can run themselves, and be a great place to meet people and share ideas and experiences. I'm looking forward to seeing it grow.

    More soon...


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    Doug, where are you based? I'm guessing in the US? I'm in the UK.
    did you know that 1/3 of all FAT sales went to germany. explains ebay.de a lot

    keep us informed dude, infact private mail me ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    apex/doug
    I'd certainly love to see a FAT dedicated site & I'm impressed that you've taken it on!
    I'd love to help out, perhaps as a moderator?

    I thought it only polite to ask wendyl, I know you respect this

    let me know if you need any help/ info

    colker, perhaps the fact that you cant buy FATs anymore is part of the appeal?

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    hmmm... there';s more than being no more.. it's always been a Fat or no Fat fro a lot of people. the yo was THE steel bike when we thought of woods riding. at the same the time, there was the high price, the bad rep when it came to warr. and the bad karma with the serotta merge.
    even w/the IF deluxe looking like a modernized eddy, i don't feel the same as when looking at the skull and bones decal...
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    "hmmm... there';s more than being no more.. "

    dude! You SOOOO dont need to tell ME that ;D

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    another Yo

    Here is another Fat. This is my 1994 Yo Eddie. I bought this bike new as a frame from Outback Bikes in Atlanta. It was originally a white to yellow fade, with Manitou 3 fork, Grafton cranks, Ringle seatpost and stem, Avid tri-align 3 brakes, Chris King headset, Nuke Proof wheels, onza pedals, etc. I have been looking for an old picture to scan, but have not found one yet. I will edit this post or post again when I find an old picture.

    Here it is now, built as a singlespeed, repainted, after thousands of miles, and with all of the components replaced, except the Chris King headset. Seatpost is courtesy of flyingsuperpetis via Ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    Here it is now, built as a singlespeed, repainted, after thousands of miles, and with all of the components replaced, except the headset. Seatpost is courtesy of flyingsuperpetis via Ebay.
    Nice paint!!

    (and the Chris King ad below is bogus... arghhh....)

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    Even with there being no more produced...the Yo Eddy on eBay right now has gone up a number of times with a silly price tag of $3900 opening bid. Just plain foolish IMO...

    Yetifan.com is a perfect example of a site that's grown quickly and collected a great following of Yeti owners across the board.
    I don't see why a Fat site of similar nature won't do the same.
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    the $3900 FAT sellers prices generally are far from realistic

    andy @ yetifan has done a very good job. I look forward to a FAT alternative

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    the $3900 FAT sellers prices generally are far from realistic

    andy @ yetifan has done a very good job. I look forward to a FAT alternative

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    I sean that Fat City on ebay as well starting @ 3900$ ,totally obserd. Almost as obserd as listing it as a 2001 model. Get a grip people.

    The Fat site sounds like a cool idea. I know I would check it out a few times a week. Heck you never know. It could lead to a COG gathering/ride in the future. Anythings possible.

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    Yes, a Fat site would be very nice! Although I am very positive about the initiative I think there is an obstacle to overcome. YetiFan.com can be considered as a success. The difference between Yeti and Fat is that Yeti is still there. There are companies out there who benefit from a initiatives like YetiFan.com! So YetiFan is supported by a retailer.

    Who want support a Fat site? Companies who earn their money with the existence of Fats and they who want to attract the attention from people who visit a Fat site. Ebay? An ecommerce company?

    I think it is advisable to solve this. Otherwise in the long run the site could be more likely end up like fatfans.de - zero activity.

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    hmm. i'd hope that the FAT site is run by people who do it purely for the love of FAT & have the means (financial, work in web design etc) to be able to run a FAT site with no other motives. As you mentioned certainly as FAT is no longer a business concern thenI cant see any other reasons behind it!

    I know andy @ yetifan well & fully appreciate that he does get some backing for the site (not as much as you'd imagine tho. In the early days it was totally self funded!)

    As long as people have an interest in riding, buying, talking about & meeting other FAT cogs then theres justification for a site. If a site isnt viable then we'll just have to stick with this thread!

    fatfans.de tho well laid out. I find has a difficult to work with forum. Its also not that well known(?)

    anyway! gees this is all getting a bit heavy! Does any1 know of any limited type FAT spray jobs? wendyl mentioned that they did a few for certain bike shows. just curious after seeing that signed FAT firstflightbikes have

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    For the record, the motives behind the forthcoming site is purely enthusiast-driven. I have no financial gain in mind (obviously, as most of the things that will be promoted are long out of production by companies no longer around.

    The site should be financially self-supportive, and really not a monetary burden, other than my time (which seems to becoming more valuable by the day). I know it is easy to assume the worst in people right off the bat without knowing who will be responsible for managing everything. I'm not looking to get anything out of it, though it would make me really happy if it were a vehicle to find me a replacement of my old violet Yo, but that's not my motivation.

    Once I was out riding by myself on a local forrest preserve trail when I happened along a guy headed in the opposite direction on a Fat Ti. We both instantly stopped and started talking about the bikes we were riding. An hour later, and I was back on the trail, contemplating how cool it was that someone else felt the same thing I had felt about my bike. It was one of those happenstance instances that made me beam with joy for the hours following the meeting of a stranger with only a bike frame in common.

    That's the feeling I want to recreate by building a new community on the web for these bikes. Who knows what would have happened if I would have had access to to the web when I was riding in 1994? It may be 10 years late, but I still think that a community centered around this old company would survive pretty well without too much effort.

    Stay tuned...


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    Great to hear that you are such a passionate person! Already bookmarked FatCogs.com. I am really looking forward to the launch of the site. You are really performing a great job for the whole Fatcommunity and for those interested in (vintage-)bikes in general. Thanks!

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    Doug,
    my comments werent a personal attack dude. Just re-reading my comments I didnt come across quite as I intended!

    all power to you if you make this thing happen As I've mentioned previously I'd be glad to help (moderating helping me through the working day as it were!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    Doug,
    my comments werent a personal attack dude. Just re-reading my comments I didnt come across quite as I intended!
    Not at all! I just wanted to make sure that anyone who sees what I am trying to accomplish doesn't get the wrong idea. I don't want anyone to think that there is some underlying hidden reason why I would do something like this. We're well past the era of people getting rich off the internet.

    ApexSpeed.com is a group of sites I created about 4 years ago that have been self-supporting and self-policed. I can't devote nearly as much time as I would like to creating a catalog of information around it, but the forums themselves do a great job of bringing together racers from all over North America and beyond.

    We're all after the same thing! It's all goooooood.


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    Good job!

    Ok, the new forums are up and running, but in what I would consider a beta version "test" mode. Everything should be functioning as normal, so go ahead and register and see if everything works as it should. More to come as I figure out how phpBB is managed and constructed. It's pretty cool so far, so I'm hoping for great things for the forums.

    For now... http://www.fatcogs.com/phpbb/index.php


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    hey doug, signed up. checked my mail, followed the link. but came up with this:

    The page you were looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

    Please try the following:

    If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly and CaSe Correct.

    Click the Refresh/Reload button, or try again later.

    Open the home page, and then try to link to the page you want.
    If you still cannot find the page, please notify the referring URL of this missing link.

    JUST thought you should know! user name scant (no surprises!) if you want to check it out!

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    Ok, I had incorrectly set some permissions, but everything should be working now. If you encounter any problems or you have any ideas for the site or forums, send me an e-mail to [email protected].

    Cheers,

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    ok, so just incase you're not all checking the www.fatcogs.com website

    you've got 1 (sensible!) question to ask chris chance. what would it be?
    I'll try to get the best questions answerred

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    New question here. Best Suspension Fork for 87 Wicked?

    I have an 87 Wicked, and have been running an old Manitou SX fork, and wish to upgrade to the best oil damped fork that I can without hurting the handling. My original fork is 16 1/4" long, the Manitou is 17 1/4" and the newer forks are 1 inch longer still. What should I do? this is my only and regular ride and i ride an extremely gnarly trail each week. After reading some of this site, it makes me want to put the straight fork back on, but maybe I'll wait until i have another bike first. I bought the bike new in 1987, and have loved it dearly ever since. Upgraded over the years, and now run a Deore XT crank, SIS XTderaillers, Acic and Ringle canti's, WTB Laser V Team saddle, but stil use the same flat bars that came with the bike. Went to a threadless stem in 1997, and sut in an aheadset tapered roller headset then. Switched to a shorter spindle and moved the collars to the inside. Creaked until i secured it with some locktite bearing lock compound. That solved the problem. Also, soldered a penny to the bottom of the seat tube insde the BB and then added a zerk grease fitting. Then removed the inner seals, and now just periodically give it a squirt of grease every now and then. Wipe off the excess and good to go. What are your recommendations on shorter forks? Anybody running the new Marzocchi's MX Comp forks that come in 1"? Thanks.

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    Next time one of these appears...

    Boneritus Majorus:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT




    ...or a 93 Ti.






    ...but mostly the 10th.

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    That was a sweet bike but think of all the money you didnt spend

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    that fat 10th was mint. with shipping & import duty to the UK I totally couldnt afford it.
    Not surprised it made 1.9K$ tho

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    Single speed conversion for '93 Yo Eddy

    No clue how to upload pics either - sorry because it's still a sweet looking ride.

    I'm converting a '93 Yo Eddy to a SS with a Soulcraft conversion kit. I'd love to tweak it a bit more by replacing a very tired Mag 21 but can't seem to find many options because of a 1" headtube.

    Anyone with any ideas where to find a big one inch rigid fork or a 1" steer tube suspension fork with a similar crown height? Also looking for a 1" quill Salsa (or similar) 0-15 degree, 10cm stem.

    Thanks

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    magura & marzoke both still make 1in steerer forks, not sure how long they are tho.
    salsas stems on ebay a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by plasticman
    No clue how to upload pics either - sorry because it's still a sweet looking ride.

    I'm converting a '93 Yo Eddy to a SS with a Soulcraft conversion kit. I'd love to tweak it a bit more by replacing a very tired Mag 21 but can't seem to find many options because of a 1" headtube.

    Anyone with any ideas where to find a big one inch rigid fork or a 1" steer tube suspension fork with a similar crown height? Also looking for a 1" quill Salsa (or similar) 0-15 degree, 10cm stem.

    Thanks
    Take a look at the for sale section over here: http://www.fatcogs.com There is at least one rigid fork for sale I think. And for suspension forks, Marzocchi still makes a 1".

    As for the stem, check ebay.

    Good luck

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    Hi guys

    after conversations with wendyl, the success of this thread (number of hits!) & the new www.fatcogs.com site. Just wondering if anyone would be interested in a new run of the old t-shirts? Let us know the favoured designs & lets eee what we can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    Hi guys

    Let us know the favoured designs & lets eee what we can do

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    Ahhh, just in time. Just retired my ol Fat Chance team shirt, still my favourite design, with the yo ed burst logo on the left breast & the flourescent grello & Purple zigzag & all the symbology & brands on the back. Loud, bright, colourful, grafton, ringle, etc... quintessentially Fat.

    Nice work, let us know how it goes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsuperpetis
    Ahhh, just in time. Just retired my ol Fat Chance team shirt, still my favourite design, with the yo ed burst logo on the left breast & the flourescent grello & Purple zigzag & all the symbology & brands on the back. Loud, bright, colourful, grafton, ringle, etc... quintessentially Fat.

    Count me in. I have a ratty, worn out, should be a dish rag by now Fat shirt just like this one that needs to be replaced.

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    Decked out Wicked

    1990 Wicked Fat Chance 18"
    Bullseye cranks, Bontrager Bonded Composite fork, mostly XT. White cranks and saddle helped avoid the "none more black" tag.

    Those bikes had very short headtubes. I remember the Bontrager guy who took the order for the fork didn't believe it was going on an 18" bike until I told him the brand. Really nice fork, but just not quite as sweet as the Brodie Gatorblade.
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    Black w/white Wicked

    [QUOTE=GonaSovereign]1990 Wicked Fat Chance 18"
    Bullseye cranks, Bontrager Bonded Composite fork, mostly XT. White cranks and saddle helped avoid the "none more black" tag.

    Very nice Wicked, don't know if I have seen a black with white decals Fat before, but I really like it. Especially with the white cranks and saddle.
    Much nicer than the common black with yellow paint scheme.

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    yup! theres pretty cool. feel free to post pics on www.fatcogs.com as well

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    Not mine (and not for sale)....but it looks well used:

    http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...chanceYEB.html
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    remove the 300 stickers & thats a real nice bike ;D

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    Live At The Sswc 2004 In Berlin:
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    nevermind...
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    got my 10th anniversary finished so far, don't know if it will be the last setup. purple is definitely back in town.........









    p.s.: sorry for the big images, i hope you're on the fast line
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    got my 10th anniversary finished so far, don't know if it will be the last setup. purple is definitely back in town.........
    p.s.: sorry for the big images, i hope you're on the fast line

    Wow....that's the most well thought out build I've ever seen.
    Stunning.
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    rasa the pics dont work for me! (page loads up fine & fast tho )

    can u mail me the pics direct or post them up on www.fatcogs.com ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    rasa the pics dont work for me! (page loads up fine & fast tho )

    can u mail me the pics direct or post them up on www.fatcogs.com ;D

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    @eric
    thank you, it was a lot of work building a bike with sunglasses on - purple is a real dangerous color.....

    @scant
    try to reload, i just moved them to my own server.

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    now its working... that is truly beautiful. v.v. nice

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    Fat Chance logo in B&W....

    I came across this in the MBAction Oct. 1990 issue.. I don't know if it's already been posted somewhere on this thread, but I can't read 244 posts (WOW!!!!!) to find out... I know that, somewhere- some place- some mag, I have seen this in color..... If this is already in this thread (or not), please let me know.. Thanks....
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    Damn that tenth is hotness...

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    My ride

    Had a 1990 Wicked-Fat, then bought this one (NOS) from a shop in Sommerville in 1997 I think. Best riding hardtail I ever had.

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    nice M3 as well ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by scant
    hi guys, remeber the gorgeous little fat chance ti (ibis ti stem) pictured above that was form sale on ebay. well he pulled the sale, normally that kinda thing annoys me, but check out what he had to say

    "On Jan-20-04 at 09:05:27 PST, seller added the following information:

    PLEASE READ!
    Well, after all the encouraging emails from Fat Chance fans from around the world, I've decided to keep my bike. I was selling it because I really, really am desperate for cash. But, it's only money, right? And the kind, inspirational, and humorous emails from all of you convinced me that selling my bike was the wrong thing to do.

    A special shout out to the guy who sent me the link to the "how to sell your kidney" website. I guess I'm not quite that desparate yet!

    I apologize for teasing those of you who bid so far and those of you I believe were still going to bid. I have to admit, there's a curious side of me that's dying to know what the closing bid would have been. But for now, we'll just have to speculate.

    I'm writing this so people can get the message that this auction will close in the next day or so. Didn't want to just close it up, because interested parties wouldn't know what's up.

    Scientists believe that wolves, penguins and killer whales mate for life. Maybe we should add die-hard Fat Chance owners to the list.

    Thanks!"

    think that says it all really

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    I just got an 87 wicked 19.5 with period correct xt group. Araya Rm20 rims, shimano 600 headset that takes the wavy wrenches, u-brake, motorcycle style levers, etc.
    Frame has nasty paint. Should I leave or re-finish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootsie_cat
    I just got an 87 wicked 19.5 with period correct xt group. Araya Rm20 rims, shimano 600 headset that takes the wavy wrenches, u-brake, motorcycle style levers, etc.
    Frame has nasty paint. Should I leave or re-finish?
    Was that the black Craigslist jobbie?
    Personally, I say leave it and ride it unless you plan to make a complete NOS garage queen out of it!
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    About my Wicked

    Hi everyone!

    I was debating for the past few months about getting a new mountain bike but after some heavy thinking I decided to breathe new life into my Fat Chance Wicked!

    Anyway, after doing some research I have come across some questions that I need answering and I was hoping all you Fat lovers could lend a hand. Here they are:

    1. I purchased my Wicked in the Fall of 1991 but I don't know if they sold me a 1990, 1991, or 1992. How can I tell? My serial number is 381W11 and the paint job is a solid purple. I purchased the frame only and built the bike on my own.

    2. In my effort to breathe new life into my bike I have decided to give it a new paint job. Can anyone point me to a color chart for the colors I can choose from? Is there such a thing or, perhaps, there are too many to list. Any color recommendations?

    3. After I paint my bike I'll need new decals, can anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can get those? I've seen the name 'yobetty' on this thread as a name of a seller (Chris's Ex) on eBay...does anyone have a number I can call instead?

    Thanks a ton!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piet
    Hi everyone!

    I was debating for the past few months about getting a new mountain bike but after some heavy thinking I decided to breathe new life into my Fat Chance Wicked!

    Anyway, after doing some research I have come across some questions that I need answering and I was hoping all you Fat lovers could lend a hand. Here they are:

    1. I purchased my Wicked in the Fall of 1991 but I don't know if they sold me a 1990, 1991, or 1992. How can I tell? My serial number is 381W11 and the paint job is a solid purple. I purchased the frame only and built the bike on my own.

    2. In my effort to breathe new life into my bike I have decided to give it a new paint job. Can anyone point me to a color chart for the colors I can choose from? Is there such a thing or, perhaps, there are too many to list. Any color recommendations?

    3. After I paint my bike I'll need new decals, can anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can get those? I've seen the name 'yobetty' on this thread as a name of a seller (Chris's Ex) on eBay...does anyone have a number I can call instead?

    Thanks a ton!

    Piet
    On 1: Isn't it 381W1L ? Large Wicked from '91.
    On 2: As far as I know there doesn't excist such as a colorchart. I realize it would be very helpfull if there was one. Some did their own invetigation on the color of their FAT and probably they could help you out on their specific color. For future it is maybe smart to collect those details in one thread @ FatCogs.
    On3: Scant could help you out.

    You could also try FatCogs.

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    On 1: To be sure I checked First Flight: http://www.firstflightbikes.com/fat.htm Scroll down.

    With the frameno. you are mentioning it maybe also could be a '90 and than probably in 21". It seems that the 90 systems differs form 91, 92. FAT used multiple systems through time; pretty confusing.

    Edit: I now realize it isn't logical what I assume (than there should be an 0 before the 1 and there is a 1 too). Another feature of FAT frameno.; sometimes lack of logics.
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    FAT frame numbers are somewhat of a black art! wendyl must get sick of being asked about them! but she always makes sence of them!

    I would also love a colour chart! so would all the other FAT cogs! although I can usually find out the colour mix involved to create FAT paint (eg grellow 1/4 fluro yellow, 3/4 fluro green mixed into clear) I dont know the actual paint codes/ RAL? BS numbers.

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    [QUOTE=Elevation12,000]On 1: Isn't it 381W1L ? Large Wicked from '91.

    The Wicked was never sized in "Small, Medium, Large" as were the Monster, Yo, etc.

    By the serial number I would guess that you have a 91 Wicked, 21" size, does that sound close? The Wicked is meaured center-to-top, unlike many other Fat models.As everyone has said, it is somewhat of an art to decipher these things.

    I have never heard of a color chart, would be neat to have, but I would be surprised if one existed.

    Wendyll can supply all sorts of decals, but she does not have the early Wicked decals. Not having a 91, I would expect for your bike to have the solid black decals? If so, there are a number of sources to have them made, mostly places that will also paint your bike.
    There is another thread about that on here somewhere...

    Good luck with your bike, one of my personal favorites. Post pictures if you can.

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    Thanks for the info

    Thanks everyone,

    Rick you are probably right about it being a 21" from 1991. I'll make sure to take some before and after pictures for you all to see.

    Cheers!

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    i found this on the Joe Bell custom bike painting web sight.

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    That's pretty cool! Since I am in the beginning stages of painting my bike it makes me want to do something fun like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piet
    That's pretty cool! Since I am in the beginning stages of painting my bike it makes me want to do something fun like that.
    i kinda remember seeing this bike come into my bike shop when i worked at newbery park bike shop. the owner is a big collector. he might even be here on this forum for all i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ManyPlaces
    I came across this in the MBAction Oct. 1990 issue.. I don't know if it's already been posted somewhere on this thread, but I can't read 244 posts (WOW!!!!!) to find out... I know that, somewhere- some place- some mag, I have seen this in color..... If this is already in this thread (or not), please let me know.. Thanks....

    I remember seeing this paint job on a Fat in the Wheelsmith Shop in Palo Alto, CA and drooling over it. I'd love to see some pics too! Anyone??

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    Need help upgrading my components

    Hi everyone,

    I would like to upgrade my components on my 1991 Wicked. It currently has seven speed with thumb shifters. I would like to upgrade to 9 speed. I am really a novice as far as components go and I was hoping someone could offer some help especially in regards to compatibility. The bike is old (but I love it) and I don't want to put a lot of money into it so I was thinking Shimano LX components. I already have a set of V-brakes on the bike so I won't need those. I believe this is what I need: front and rear derailleur, dual control levers, 9 speed rear cassette, front chain ring and cranks. The thing I need help with is compatibility. I am looking on ebay for the parts and I see a lot of M580, M570, etc. Are all these compatible with one another? Should I buy only M580 or M570 components? Will any of these work with V-brakes or are some disc brake compatible only? Is there anything else I need to look out for when I upgrade? Does anyone out there have these parts that they'd like to unload?

    Any advice would be much appreciated.

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    personally i would consider dual control levers a downgrade to the thumb shifters.

    LX components would be fine. just get what you can afford. you will need to get a new rear hub or wheel too if you want to slide a 9 speed cassette in it. other than that there really are no compatibility issues with your old parts.

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    vdubbusrider,

    Why do you consider that a downgrade? Do you think I should stick with my 7 speed setup? And, just to clarify...my thumb shifters are over-the-bar thumb shifters (not sure if there is any other kind so I thought I'd point this out). Thanks for pointing out the rear hub, I got that already but didn't mention it.

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    really i suppose it's personal prefference but i hate the way they feel and operate. also, the rapid rise rear deraillers is something you will never see me touch. it's not that i'm a retro grouch or anything it's that i just dont like the way they work. the thumb shifters have really sharp nice indexing and work flawlessly.

    rapidrise shifters and Sram XO shifters would be the only thing i would go with if i were upgrading to 9 speed. well, maybe Paul thumbies would be neat way to go too to preserve a little retro style and still have 9 speed. honestly now that i think about it dual control levers will look really out of place on an old fat Chance.

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    You've piqued my interest! What are Paul thumbies? And, I agree with you, the thumb shifters have always worked great but my rear derailleur has been bent too many times and, besides, I wouldn't mind 9 speeds.

    As far as the retro-look goes, let's be honest, the bike is not going to look retro anymore...in fact it hasn't for years. It has had a shock, v-brakes, and Spinergys which I don't consider retro. Do you? In addition, I am in the process of getting it repainted so, hopefully, it's going to look a little more like a new bike.

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    I agree with Vdub. You should keep those thumbshifters. They're more reliable than many of the newer shifters. If you're trying to get some more gears on that bike, why not go to 8 speed? That would probably be cheaper as well. Things you would need for sure are;

    1 A new rear hub that will fit an eight speed cassette (any 9 speed hub should work) and then get spokes and a rim on it.

    2 An eight speed cassette.

    3 An eight speed chain.

    You can probably keep your thumbshifters assuming they are deore or deore xt with an extra click for an eigth gear. Your derailleur should work. Many 7 speed derailleurs work fine with 8 speed. My old xt 7speed one works great with 8 speeds. 7speed chainrings also should work with an 8 speed chain. No need to replace them unless they're worn out. However, If they show considerable wear I'd replace them, because you may have trouble running a new chain on worn chainrings.

    If you decide to switch to 8 speeds, my advice would be to buy the parts you know you need, install them and see how everything works before spending more money.

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    the Paul Components Thumbies are on this site:

    http://www.paulcomp.com/

    they use a 9 speed road bike bar end shifter to make a mountian bike top bar thumb shifter.

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    Fat Chance Clones A.K.A. Concorde Mountain Bikes

    I was going through the Fat Chance forums and I saw Deelights picture of his team chance and I know that the bike that I had in 92' was a Concorde Mirage (with Deore LX components, Ritchey and Zoom parts) that I bought from Spoke n' Attire (no longer in business) in Calgary and went to another dealer (same as Spoke's position) that sold Fat's. That dealer told me that the Concorde and the Fat's sold in Canada are built by another company and imported under Velo Sports Canada. Seems to me that the design was licensed and the design was constantly used for Concorde's line before they disappeared in 1995. I know that the cable routing was identical and the use of Tange's strut forks are the same as the American builds. The increase height of the seat tube was for the Canadian market, because Canadians prefered sloping top tubes and the way we ride. I sold my Concorde to my older brother because he had his bike stolen in Edmonton. I do know that he still has it and I would try to get pictures of it when I visit him. Deelight's picture is below, but I will try to get pictures posted when I get the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmonster
    I was going through the Fat Chance forums and I saw Deelights picture of his team chance and I know that the bike that I had in 92' was a Concorde Mirage (with Deore LX components, Ritchey and Zoom parts) that I bought from Spoke n' Attire (no longer in business) in Calgary and went to another dealer (same as Spoke's position) that sold Fat's. That dealer told me that the Concorde and the Fat's sold in Canada are built by another company and imported under Velo Sports Canada. Seems to me that the design was licensed and the design was constantly used for Concorde's line before they disappeared in 1995. I know that the cable routing was identical and the use of Tange's strut forks are the same as the American builds. The increase height of the seat tube was for the Canadian market, because Canadians prefered sloping top tubes and the way we ride. I sold my Concorde to my older brother because he had his bike stolen in Edmonton. I do know that he still has it and I would try to get pictures of it when I visit him. Deelight's picture is below, but I will try to get pictures posted when I get the chance.
    Saved those pics from eBay some time ago:







    The Tange Struts is a knock off from the original Yo Eddy fork and they are not similar. Struts come with plastic topcaps on the blades, Yo blades are closed and feature a tiny Yo Eddy decal there. The Yo fork has small gussets on the back of each blade, don't know about the struts. The Yo fork is not made out of Tange tubing, but TrueTemper.
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    Wanted Fat Chance size M/L

    I am looking for either a Monster Fat, Wicked or Yo Eddy in a M/L size frame. If you have a frame for sale or can put me in touch with someone that does please email me.

    Email is: [email protected]

    Thanks,

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    Here are a few...

    Don't know what the board's opinion's are on outing Ebay auctions, but here are two current Fat's that are available...

    A classic 80's

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Fat-Chance-80s-v...QQcmdZViewItem

    and a beautiful NOS Yo Eddy frame

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Fat-City-Cycles-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Disclaimer - I do not own or do not know the individuals selling these items...just a joy to look at. Wish I could own them too!

    cheers,

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    I guess you all saw the FAT CHANCE factory tour video I put on the net? starring Chris Chance.

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    Your movie is famous!

    http://www.yetifan.com/fatchancecycles.MPG

    Seriously cool
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    Fat Chance decals

    I sent payment to "the source" in Stowe two months ago and have followed up with 5 emails and have heard nothing back and received nothing (to the tune of $110). No nothing! Has anyone received or heard anything from her in the past 2 months, just wondering?

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    We the people ...

    maybe search the fatcogs forum? the ebay link was deffo on there @ some point as there was a big discussion about it

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    Just picked this up - haven't adjusted the saddle yet, much less ridden it any significant distance. One of the last ones out of Somerville...never ridden off-road.

    More pics coming - have to resize them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by paqrat
    Just picked this up - haven't adjusted the saddle yet, much less ridden it any significant distance. One of the last ones out of Somerville...never ridden off-road.

    More pics coming - have to resize them..
    I really like the paint scheme on that bike. Very cool.

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    With Grello and blue the frame is similar to the one MBA tested.

    BTW I have seen that bike before on FatCogs. It is a nice ride!
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    My Renovated '91 Wicked

    Inspired by this forum, I decided to breathe new life into my '91 Wicked. The original bike was purple and I had updated it in 1995 with Spinergy wheels, new brakes, and a Rock Shox fork. With my latest renovation, I gave it a new paint job, a Marzocchi fork, new wheels & tires, and a new handle bar & stem. In addition, as per vdubbusrider suggestions, I kept the old 7 speed setup with the thumby shifters.

    Here are some pics of the new setup (wish I had old pictures to compare):
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    Nice! I LOVE Wickeds the best.

    Post that bad boy on FatCogs.com and make sure the list it in the Fat Chance registry on the forums there!
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    I'd be interested in a t-shirt or two...

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    ... and if we just ... Sommerville Ti

    here's my just recently finished FAT Ti from 1993 with some extra Ti stuff just like I always wanted it back in the days of high dreams and low budget ...

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    Martin thats extremely nice

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    Nice!

    I like the understated look.

    Cheers,

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    nevermind...
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    Need Stickers

    HEY ALL,

    I am trying to bring back my 1989 Yo Eddy to its former glory. Unfortunately, it has been repainted 3 times and doesnt have stickers. Is there any chance in hell of finding any?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    And what about that threadless BB. Anybody still making them?

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    Hi,

    People @ FatCogs are working on decals.

    www.fatcogs.com

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    The bearings should be a standard size. If you don't have a spindle you should be able to find one on Ebay. Another alternative is to chamfer your bb shell and use a Mavic sealed bb.

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    Thanks!

    The BB I have installed I bought from White industries about 5 years ago. I am going to check with them to see if they still have any.

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    Thanks!

    Now a member @ fatcogs!

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    [QUOTE=fat chance guy]
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation12,000
    On 1: Isn't it 381W1L ? Large Wicked from '91.

    The Wicked was never sized in "Small, Medium, Large" as were the Monster, Yo, etc.

    By the serial number I would guess that you have a 91 Wicked, 21" size, does that sound close? The Wicked is meaured center-to-top, unlike many other Fat models.As everyone has said, it is somewhat of an art to decipher these things.

    I have never heard of a color chart, would be neat to have, but I would be surprised if one existed.

    Wendyll can supply all sorts of decals, but she does not have the early Wicked decals. Not having a 91, I would expect for your bike to have the solid black decals? If so, there are a number of sources to have them made, mostly places that will also paint your bike.
    There is another thread about that on here somewhere...

    Good luck with your bike, one of my personal favorites. Post pictures if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation12,000
    Hi,

    People @ FatCogs are working on decals.

    www.fatcogs.com

    i was there and saw no mention to decals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    i was there and saw no mention to decals.
    Try here:

    http://www.apexspeed.com/fatcogs/for...read.php?t=743

    Pb

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    i was there and saw no mention to decals.
    Seriously? It's like 50% of the topics there.
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    Even though I like to poke fun at FC owners...I still have one of my own.

    1989/90ish FC Wicked:











    After a tire and wheel swap, just for fun:









    Sorry, the full bike shot if blurry, I'm a total rookie.
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    v.nice eric

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    Wicked in need of TLC

    Hey folks, I was very pleased to come across this thread.

    I'm trying to fix up my old Wicked (serial number 530W09). Based on my investigations I think it's a 1990. I've had it since '94 and it's in need of some major TLC. I'm planning on having it repainted soon.

    I could really use some advice:

    1) I need a new bottom bracket. Anyone know where I can get some good quality press-in bearings?

    2) I need a new fork. My Manitou 2 finally bit the dust. I can't seem to find elastomers for it anywhere. In any case, I'd like to switch to a rigid fork. I'm mostly using my bike for commuting on streets these days. I'd like to find something appropriate for the Wicked's geometry, rides well, and isn't too heavy. I'm aware of bikeman.com, but I was hoping I could maybe find something off-the-shelf that wouldn't kill my pocketbook. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamezilla
    Hey folks, I was very pleased to come across this thread.

    I'm trying to fix up my old Wicked (serial number 530W09). Based on my investigations I think it's a 1990. I've had it since '94 and it's in need of some major TLC. I'm planning on having it repainted soon.

    I could really use some advice:

    1) I need a new bottom bracket. Anyone know where I can get some good quality press-in bearings?

    2) I need a new fork. My Manitou 2 finally bit the dust. I can't seem to find elastomers for it anywhere. In any case, I'd like to switch to a rigid fork. I'm mostly using my bike for commuting on streets these days. I'd like to find something appropriate for the Wicked's geometry, rides well, and isn't too heavy. I'm aware of bikeman.com, but I was hoping I could maybe find something off-the-shelf that wouldn't kill my pocketbook. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
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    Find any 1" rigid fork for now...though you'll be hard pressed to find the correct matching Wicked fork I think.

    Also check out www.fatcogs.com
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    Hey Scant,

    What ever came of the Fatlanta Yo replica you mentioned you or a friend was going to build a while back?
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    I have a bare frameset ready, also a grellow yo eddy fork. undecided on wether to go grellow (for the frame) or FATlanta. My friend pete put his FATlanta decals on his fat chance titanium & that looks very cool

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    Ti Fatlanta would have been awesome!

    The large Fatlanta that still hangs in Outback was actually going to be mine way back then, but I spent the money on motorcycle parts instead. I kick myself to this day.

    Oh well, it would just be hanging in my basement with my other bikes right now if I had bought it.
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    Oooohhhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by rasaldul
    fat chance 10th anniversary NOS

    I want it!

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    Top Tube length

    Does any body know what the top tube length is for a medium Yo Eddy?

    I am really missinng my old Fatty and would like to replace it. My old Wicked was to short in the top tube. I would like to find another Fatty in the neighborhood of a 23" top tube. So if you have information on geometry for a Wicked or Yo Eddy, I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks

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    medium yo, top tube is 23in. wicked 18in, 22.25in.
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    Isn't it that it depends on whether or not it is suspension corrected?

    Some links that always proof to be helpfull to answer 1001 Fat related questions:

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    hi folks, been a lurker on this forum for a while now, and thought now was the time to be brave a post some pics of my collection, cheers alan, speak soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ti-fat-man
    hi folks, been a lurker on this forum for a while now, and thought now was the time to be brave a post some pics of my collection, cheers alan, speak soon.

    Indy and a Yol Good stuff!
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    help struggling with uploading pics, got more, alan!!
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    saving the best till last alan?

    26000odd views! wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by ti-fat-man
    help struggling with uploading pics, got more, alan!!
    Extra Smooth indeed. Delicious.

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    Well spotted, that's my xmas stash for the big day!! hope santa brings me my 07 xtr groupset that i've asked for, nearly there now, cheers alan.
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    Nice T-Disk.
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    New question here. Stickers for 1992 Yo Eddie!

    I own a 1992 Yo Eddie. Anybody know if it's possible to get the complete set of stickers for the bike (and where)?

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    Rody on FatCogs.com will be able to help you out soon!

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    I own a 1991 Team Fat Chance Yo Eddy and I am looking for a set of decals as well. I'm in the process of finding someone to paint/powder coat my frame and frok and I'd love to have the original decals. Also can anyone tell me if the headset is a 1" or 1 1/8"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rkentucky
    I own a 1991 Team Fat Chance Yo Eddy and I am looking for a set of decals as well. I'm in the process of finding someone to paint/powder coat my frame and frok and I'd love to have the original decals. Also can anyone tell me if the headset is a 1" or 1 1/8"?

    Thanks
    See the post above yours.

    www.fatcogs.com

    I believe they've taken' on the repro decals over there.

    If its a 91, it should be a 1"
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    Scant wrote:
    My friend pete put his FATlanta decals on his fat chance titanium & that looks very cool

    Shonky photos I know, I'll try and get some proper ones to replace them as soon as:





    All the bits I always wanted as a kid but couldn't afford (billet mechs and shifters, IRD switchbacks, Box levers, Ringle wheels and stem, cooks cranks and Chris Bell egg rings)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete_mcc
    Shonky photos I know, I'll try and get some proper ones to replace them as soon as:



    All the bits I always wanted as a kid but couldn't afford (billet mechs and shifters, IRD switchbacks, Box levers, Ringle wheels and stem, cooks cranks and Chris Bell egg rings)

    Very impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete_mcc
    All the bits I always wanted as a kid but couldn't afford (billet mechs and shifters, IRD switchbacks, Box levers, Ringle wheels and stem, cooks cranks and Chris Bell egg rings)
    Wow, so nice, I just got this back from a buddy I sold it to 10 years ago. Sorry for the repost, but I didn't know this thread was here. I'll post more when it is done.


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    My 10th

    I think I had posted these up a while ago in different section. Figure would be the best appreciated here, taken about a year ago.


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    I saw this 10th last time, very nice to see a 10th at all. even better to see 1 thats being used

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    My 86 Fat Chance. I'm the second owner, the original was a photgrapher who shot a few Fat City catalogs back then. Custom paint reflects his logo at the time (orange triangles). Suntour thumbies, 4 finger Deore XT levers, Fat City Aluminum bar, Oury grips, Mavic oxygen rims, Deore u-brake and canti's,Cool tool quick release, Hite rite! First-edition Ritchey post replaced the original that I had to cut out. It's a blast to ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDXdog
    My 86 Fat Chance. I'm the second owner, the original was a photgrapher who shot a few Fat City catalogs back then. Custom paint reflects his logo at the time (orange triangles). Suntour thumbies, 4 finger Deore XT levers, Fat City Aluminum bar, Oury grips, Mavic oxygen rims, Deore u-brake and canti's,Cool tool quick release, Hite rite! First-edition Ritchey post replaced the original that I had to cut out. It's a blast to ride!
    That's a really nice looking Fat. I dig the gray-to-white fade.

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    Another view: First generation spuds are a bit new for the bike, but it's a "rider". Umma Gumma's are stil holding up. Scott brake pads are an upgrade, as is the XT 4 finger levers, complete with Scott "lever grips". I have the Magura "motorcycle" levers that came on the bike, as well as the Deore shifters. I like the Suntour XC pros much better. And the Mt. Zefal pump has inflated more tires than I can venture to guess. A product that I got more than my moneys worth!
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    My '99 Ti

    Here's a couple of pics of my Ti Fat.


    Some sweet Fats here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDXdog
    Another view: First generation spuds are a bit new for the bike, but it's a "rider". Umma Gumma's are stil holding up. Scott brake pads are an upgrade, as is the XT 4 finger levers, complete with Scott "lever grips". I have the Magura "motorcycle" levers that came on the bike, as well as the Deore shifters. I like the Suntour XC pros much better. And the Mt. Zefal pump has inflated more tires than I can venture to guess. A product that I got more than my moneys worth!

    One of the better looking Fat's I've seen.
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    here is one.. dirty.
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    Local Ebay Score...more to come

    Just picked up this 1985 Fat yesterday - my own pics will come soon. Long and short is it appears to be in very good shape and mostly original.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=012
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    Nice one! I had my eye on that throughout the bidding. It took all I could muster not to hit "confirm bid". Too many projects going on at one time. Please post more pics when you get a chance. I'd like to see what I missed out on.
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    Thanks!

    Here are some better photos. Serial # is 85643.
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    Nice. Ride her hard and ride her often. Enjoy!
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    My Fat Contribution

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    FAT Chance Jersey

    I am going to be getting rid of a XL FAT CHANCE JERSEY ON EBAY. Unless someone wants to PM me with an offer I can't refuse.




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    Identity Crisis: What Fat model am I riding, and what year was it made?

    I have been riding a Fat Chance (#10758) since 1994. The maroon color and shape of the frame is practically identical to the one THO is holding in his pic he posted on 4-8-04 (see below). I bought it used off a friend desparate for $ (only paid $500 for it). The only sticker that was on the bike when I bought it was a faded white "FAT CHANCE" across the top crossbar. Since he had it for at least a year, all I know is that it was made no later than 1993. Can someone please help me ID (year and model) my faithful steed who has given me 13 glorious years of riding?

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    My Buck Shaver

    <a href="https://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/jasson1243/FatChance.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] Bicycle
    <a href="https://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/jasson1243/FatChance.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
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    nice touch with the cable crimps.

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    Can anybody tell me if chris chance is still making bikes i have one of the last yo edy out of somerville forget if it is 94 or 95 and i wanted to get it redone somescratches and a dent thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncig
    Can anybody tell me if chris chance is still making bikes i have one of the last yo edy out of somerville forget if it is 94 or 95 and i wanted to get it redone somescratches and a dent thanks
    He is not making frames anymore. Check over at www.fatcogs.com and search for re-builts / re-paints. Several companies out there will help you out.
    blah, blah, blah..........

    www.fatcogs.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncig
    Can anybody tell me if chris chance is still making bikes i have one of the last yo edy out of somerville forget if it is 94 or 95 and i wanted to get it redone somescratches and a dent thanks
    That train left the depot several hours ago. Definitely check in at fatcogs.
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    85-ish FAT



    61cm slim chance

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    Don't the collars on the head tube mean that the Fat is newer than 85? What is there serial number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Don't the collars on the head tube mean that the Fat is newer than 85? ?
    hence the "ish" hahaha, sorry Noah I dont really sweat the details that much. I might have to PM you regarding some stuff in your signature

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    Noah, heres my '84 Fat and it has the collars on the head tube, #84124

    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Noah, heres my '84 Fat and it has the collars on the head tube, #84124

    kb11,

    Where did you get your decals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc
    kb11,

    Where did you get your decals?

    Michael-NYC
    These were made by Signz & Dezignes http://suzieillustrator.com/sds_index.htm. I had these done about 3 years ago but she should still have the artwork. Its really thin vinyl.
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Thanks KB11, I will contact her to see if she stil has the artwork on file!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Don't the collars on the head tube mean that the Fat is newer than 85? What is there serial number?
    Bushpig,

    I just checked photos of a fillet brazed 1982 Fat Chance that I used to own (Yeah, don't even get me started on why I ever sold that one! ) and it also had the head tube collars, so I guess that they used them way back in the beginning of Fat City.
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    Wicket Fat Chance Decals

    I am rebuilding & respraying my 1992 WFC and need to get a set of original (black) decals, any ideas where I can get some from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritoskates
    I am rebuilding & respraying my 1992 WFC and need to get a set of original (black) decals, any ideas where I can get some from?
    Nice bike! That's one of the more rare Tange Prestige box crown forks on your bike.

    Go to www.FatCOGs.com and look through the threads on there, I've seen some talk about repro decals on there, but you've got the old style American flag on the seat tube and most people reproduce the Mass "Don't Tread On Me" flag decal.
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    1984 Fat Chance # 118

    Here is my latest Fat # 84 118 which has an interesting history behind it; It was custom ordered by an older gentleman from NYC way back in 1984 who apparently called Chris Chance directly to order the frameset and then asked Chris to personally pick out the parts, build it up and then even drive it down from Somerville himself to deliver it to him on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, then for various reasons the bike literally sat unridden for the next 24 years. It's extremely mint, mostly NOS and is one of the nicest of the old school original Fat Chances that I've ever come across, as it has virtually no mileage on it...There's more to the story as far as how I wound up with it after tracking it for the past 12 years and I also need to get the proper seat, BMX seat post, seat tube shim and Suntour XC-II pedals installed to complete it, but until then here are some crappy photos:











































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    nice rig mike

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    nice rig mike
    Thanks Dude!
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    Very cool! Nice story too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc
    Here is my latest Fat # 84 118 which has an interesting history behind it; It was custom ordered by an older gentleman from NYC way back in 1984 who apparently called Chris Chance directly to order the frameset and then asked Chris to personally pick out the parts, build it up and then even drive it down from Somerville himself to deliver it to him on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, then for various reasons the bike literally sat unridden for the next 24 years. It's extremely mint, mostly NOS and is one of the nicest of the old school original Fat Chances that I've ever come across, as it has virtually no mileage on it...There's more to the story as far as how I wound up with it after tracking it for the past 12 years and I also need to get the proper seat, BMX seat post, seat tube shim and Suntour XC-II pedals installed to complete it, but until then here are some crappy photos:
    Nice rig Mike!
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    Nice rig Mike!
    Thanks! I'm on the lookout for a different more period correct seat...but I guess that this one met your approval?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc
    Thanks! I'm on the lookout for a different more period correct seat...but I guess that this one met your approval?

    Rumpfy has boo to say about the seat - he is too enraptured with the funky crank bolts.

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    Yeah!!

    a great bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Rumpfy has boo to say about the seat - he is too enraptured with the funky crank bolts.
    whats the deal with that thing on the quill? extension/adjustment lock?
    i'm diggin those valve stems

    and yeah, funky crank bolts
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Rumpfy has boo to say about the seat - he is too enraptured with the funky crank bolts.
    I was waiting for someone to notice those crank bolts...Has anyone ever seen anyhting like that before?
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    1984 Fat Chance # 118

    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    whats the deal with that thing on the quill? extension/adjustment lock?
    i'm diggin those valve stems and yeah, funky crank bolts
    Hollister,

    The thing on the quill of the Bullmoose bar is an old-school BMX style headset lock nut that threads onto the top of the fork and then has an Allen Bolt that tightens it down, I'm not sure why it's so long or if the fork's steerer tube goes much higher than the top of the headset but it 's actually helpful to me since the bike is on the smaller side for me it automaically jacks up the bars 2" to accomodate me! Note the rubber O-ring that's in between the Bullmoose bar quill/bolt and the lock nut


    The valve stems are very cool because they're schrader valves that have a threaded on securing nut like a presta valve, they're made by Continental.


    I have no clue what the deal is with the funky crank bolts, my friend who I got the bike from said that he thinks that they're either Bullseye, Cook Bros, or just something that Chris Chance fabricated Does anyone know?
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    1984 Fat Chance # 118

    Quote Originally Posted by zingel
    Yeah!!

    a great bike!
    Thanks! I already know that you have great taste in old bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc

    I have no clue what the deal is with the funky crank bolts, my friend who I got the bike from said that he thinks that they're either Bullseye, Cook Bros, or just somthing that Chris Chance fabricated Does anyone know?
    an IRD(?) keeper kit maybe? i thought the bolt head on those was recessed though

    that bolt looks to small to have the right sized threads for a bb spindle, does it go all the way through and get tightened by a bolt on the other side?
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    Very cool. Love those oldies. Ive seen those crankbolts somewhere but dont recall where right now... I have those same cool rims on my 84 Commando. Tires are 85, maybe 86.

    This deserves its own thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Very cool. Love those oldies. Ive seen those crankbolts somewhere but dont recall where right now... I have those same cool rims on my 84 Commando. Tires are 85, maybe 86.

    This deserves its own thread.
    Thanks Dude! The rims are so old school BMX Cruiser and they appear to have painted on Rallye stripes on the inside...The tires aren't original I'm not sure what to do about that...I thought of giving this it's own thread but it belongs in this thread
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    1984 Fat Chance # 118

    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    an IRD(?) keeper kit maybe? i thought the bolt head on those was recessed though

    that bolt looks to small to have the right sized threads for a bb spindle, does it go all the way through and get tightened by a bolt on the other side?
    I honestly haven't taken these cranks off the bottom bracket yet to see what's going on under there...but I'll let you know when/if I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc
    Thanks Dude! The rims are so old school BMX Cruiser and they appear to have painted on Rallye stripes on the inside...

    Yeah, it looks like they're hand-painted almost.

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    My Fat Chance

    This is my well used and well ridden Fat Chance, circa. 1989.

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    One more...
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    '94 Yo Eddy!

    Hey folks...

    well...my first post here. Guess a proper start...

    Bought this 2 years ago...horrible condition! A '94 Yo Eddy! (M)




    Then, it took me more than 1 1/2 years coming so far...




    Currently I replaced the Roox seatpost with a silver Thomson! Looks way much better! And mounted a 900 XTR Front Derailleur!

    cheers
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    ...my search for a new big one inch begins again. Last time I looked was before the big Wendyl/Chris I fallout that left the community without new forks

    I rode the Fat last week for the first time in a year and it just isn't done with that *gasp* cannondale fork on it. So anyone have any leads on where to get real Fat City forks? I've found a few custom builders, but I'd rather go with a sommerville made one. Ebay and CL are empty right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    ...my search for a new big one inch begins again. Last time I looked was before the big Wendyl/Chris I fallout that left the community without new forks

    I rode the Fat last week for the first time in a year and it just isn't done with that *gasp* cannondale fork on it. So anyone have any leads on where to get real Fat City forks? I've found a few custom builders, but I'd rather go with a sommerville made one. Ebay and CL are empty right now.
    go for a custom. there is Rody and there is a guy who worked at Fat City and built those forks there.igleheart. you can't get anything else more legit...
    don't feed the hype on ebay. prices for BOI are ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    ...my search for a new big one inch begins again. Last time I looked was before the big Wendyl/Chris I fallout that left the community without new forks

    I rode the Fat last week for the first time in a year and it just isn't done with that *gasp* cannondale fork on it. So anyone have any leads on where to get real Fat City forks? I've found a few custom builders, but I'd rather go with a sommerville made one. Ebay and CL are empty right now.
    what length steerer do you need? short 1in ahead? PM me if interested

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    I've got a couple extras too.

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    1", threadless, and LONG...its for the largest size frame they made...so ~200mm? I can measure later, the bike is at my friends place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drzrm
    Wow, so nice, I just got this back from a buddy I sold it to 10 years ago. Sorry for the repost, but I didn't know this thread was here. I'll post more when it is done.

    holy crap! a rasta fade!
    I have a set of Kooka cranks (rasta fade) in mint condition I just put on ebay. if youre interested I'll end the auction for a reasonable offer. i'd love to see them on that wicked! pm me

    if anyone has any FAT merch, forks, or even frames for sale pm me! need stuff for my collection!
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    nice!

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    Here's a pic of my 1991 Wicked and 1993 Wicked lite.
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    Official FAT chance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DonH
    Here's a pic of my 1991 Wicked and 1993 Wicked lite.
    SWEET! Are those original paint jobs?
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    Thanks!
    The blue one was re-painted in the original color back in 1995. I love the color (have 3 IF's painted to match). Its what originally drew me to the bike.
    The violet one was originally black with white decals. After 1 year it was sent out (back to Fat, if I recall correctly) and painted 'team violet'.
    Im the original owner of both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoKris
    Hey folks...

    well...my first post here. Guess a proper start...

    Bought this 2 years ago...horrible condition! A '94 Yo Eddy! (M)




    Then, it took me more than 1 1/2 years coming so far...




    Currently I replaced the Roox seatpost with a silver Thomson! Looks way much better! And mounted a 900 XTR Front Derailleur!

    cheers
    //yo
    Whereabouts did you get the paint redone? Fade is not quite as long as the original, but it looks very nice.
    No longer member of the bike industry nor society, so don't hassle me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thylacine
    Whereabouts did you get the paint redone? Fade is not quite as long as the original, but it looks very nice.
    Well...my dad owns a medium-sized varnish factory and I'm working together with his best-skilled application engineer to reproduce the most famous FAT paint jobs. He has done this one.

    We already reproduced Team Violet, Kandy Wild Cherry and Sapphire Blue, too. Furthermore planned are Aqua Fade, Grello, Sapphire Fade, Team Jersey Paint, Fluorescent Yellow with Metallica Blue and so on. Of course all reproductions based on original samples.

    I know...but particularly each FAT fade paint job looks different to one another. But thanks for your support - we're improving day by day.

    //yo

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    If you don't mind me asking, how did you achieve the chameleon metallic repro?
    No longer member of the bike industry nor society, so don't hassle me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thylacine
    If you don't mind me asking, how did you achieve the chameleon metallic repro?
    We used an original sample and reproduced the colors chameleon bronze and chameleon green. That's all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoKris
    We used an original sample and reproduced the colors chameleon bronze and chameleon green. That's all...
    Now now, don't be coy.

    Not having seen one in the flesh, I always assumed that the olive colour was a tinted clear that went over the green.

    For some reason the only Yo Eddies I've seen down here have all been the aqua fade. Must've been a very popular colour back in the day.
    No longer member of the bike industry nor society, so don't hassle me.

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    Hi Thy,

    no, these are two different colors faded into each other. Yep...Aqua Fade is a very common Fat paint job. Well...If you're interested in more detailled pics of our reproduced colors/paint jobs, drop me a line via PM.

    cheers
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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    If you aren't a FatCogs.com regular, you might want to check this thread out if you are a regular CraigsList stalker for vintage frames.
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    Hi everyone. I just recently joined MTBR to find other like minded fans of the Fat Chances. I don't know why I never thought to check "on-line" before. I've owned my bike since 96-97 when a friend had to close his bike shop in Philadelphia and offered a frame that was mounted on the wall at cost (at least that's what he said). I was riding a full suspension Cannondale Super V at the time. I figured why not have a hardtail as well. We built it up with parts laying around the shop within two days and bam...there you have it....the only bike I have been riding since. Needless to say, the Cannondale was sold a few months later! lol. Here are a few pics to share.
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    I have an 85' FAT CHANCE that my dad is letting me use for a pump park at my friends house it is in great shape except for the pealing of the stickers and some very minor gear difficulties, how much do you think it is worth(my dad bought it in 85' for $500

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    how much do you think it is worth(my dad bought it in 85' for $500
    I'll start the bidding with a slightly used set of Speed Springs for a 95 Judy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameybrook
    I'll start the bidding with a slightly used set of Speed Springs for a 95 Judy.
    I'll raise a rusty chain and half a power bar wrapper.
    -eric-

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    what's a pump park?
    Quote Originally Posted by banks
    That is one big f'n dude!
    Yes I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    what's a pump park?
    pump track?
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    pump track?
    I'm still lost. What is a pump track? Is that some kind of half pipe thing?
    Quote Originally Posted by banks
    That is one big f'n dude!
    Yes I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52
    I'm still lost. What is a pump track? Is that some kind of half pipe thing?
    some dirt jumpers are too lazy to pedal
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...ght=pump+track

    I think thats what our friend here is doing with the FC
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'll raise a rusty chain and half a power bar wrapper.
    I'll throw in two bent Flite Ti Saddles.
    ...got chuck to join my Rock Racing SS team....

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