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    Quote Originally Posted by kenjihara View Post
    Wonder where he got those decals?
    They're pretty easy to come by. They were designed to be be beat up and replaced as needed to save the paint.

    Those decals came on the steel bike. The Ti Lite had it's own decals that were not panel. Also, I've never seen a painted Ti Lite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenjihara View Post
    Wonder where he got those decals?

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    Just saw this on my feed. Haven't seen one with a switchblade in a long time.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/bontrager-r...k/332478109581

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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Just saw this on my feed. Haven't seen one with a switchblade in a long time.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/bontrager-r...k/332478109581

    I'd be all over this if I didn't have 4 projects already going.
    Sooo... there's kind of a "no outing" policy on the vrc forum, but i guess ebay is public enough that it matters little? I'd been trying to get him to sell me the fork before he listed, but he hadn't responded anyway. FYI, frame is '92 or older and fork is from '94 and wrong length, so not quite matched. Still nice though.
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    That looks a Judy crown. Did the forks come with that crown originally? Not a bad looking setup, but it looks pieced together to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    That looks a Judy crown. Did the forks come with that crown originally? Not a bad looking setup, but it looks pieced together to me
    It's a mag 21 crown. Bontrager made a few rigid ones like that, but quit when the Rock Shox started getting a lot of recalls for cracked crowns. Said "they didn't want any part of that."

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    its looks to be a sus corrected fork, came with that crown
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    My Bontrager ownership has come full-circle. Years ago, on this thread I lamented selling my Trek made '99 Bontrager Privateer Comp. Later, I bought a Santa Cruz made Race and after that an even nicer Race Lite. But, for sentimental reasons I always wanted the original one back and this weekend, 15 years later, I finally got the chance after bumping into the guy who bought it. Amazingly, it's still in the same condition I sold it. I know the Privateers don't get as much love but I love it and I'm so glad to have it back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    My Bontrager ownership has come full-circle. Years ago, on this thread I lamented selling my Trek made '99 Bontrager Privateer Comp. Later, I bought a Santa Cruz made Race and after that an even nicer Race Lite. But, for sentimental reasons I always wanted the original one back and this weekend, 15 years later, I finally got the chance after bumping into the guy who bought it. Amazingly, it's still in the same condition I sold it. I know the Privateers don't get as much love but I love it and I'm so glad to have it back!
    The 1 1/8" headtubes on the 99 and a few 98 Privateers make them the most versatile by far.

    As far as ridability goes, I can't tell the difference between any of them, they're all great bikes as far as I'm concerned. There's some obviously nostalgia and collectability to the pre-trek frames, but if you just want a good steel bike to ride, you can't go wrong with any of them.
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    Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    The 1 1/8" headtubes on the 99 and a few 98 Privateers make them the most versatile by far.

    As far as ridability goes, I can't tell the difference between any of them, they're all great bikes as far as I'm concerned. There's some obviously nostalgia and collectability to the pre-trek frames, but if you just want a good steel bike to ride, you can't go wrong with any of them.
    I agree regarding the ride of the privateer vs the race and race lites. I should have never sold my 98 privateer with the 1.125Ē head tube as it really opened up fork options. Lots of those ďshouldnít have done thatĒ sales over the years. 

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    Need a fork idea

    Hello! I have question about fork options on a race. But first I never posted on this thread so I should do an intro.

    I have one of the last races made in SC. At the time I worked in a shop we sold Bontrager and Klein before and after Trek right until the end. I know I have one of the last because I bought it from the Trek blow out fax dealers got. One fax included all the last run of SC bikes. They had road, Ti, Race and Race lights on blow out about a full year after the SC shop was closed. I actually ordered a Race lite,They shipped me a Race instead. I was pissed as I wanted a lite and was charged for it. I remember to this day a race was $179, race lite $225, Ti $350. I tired to get the order made right but all larges where taken. So I ended up with a race and complained enough they ended up refunding me the difference plus some, so I paid $150. I remember all of this because I was so proud of the deal and consider it my best bike deal ever. Frame hung on the wall of my house for a year and then I built it with a new 99 SID SL TI and XTR. The only parts left from that build are the frame, fork and headset.

    But now the fork is pretty much done and I need to replace it and I'm looking for opinions. I use the Race to tow my kids trail a bike and trailer mostly on the C and O canal path. I tossed some knobbies back on the it and hit a couple of trails with it this past summer. Forgot how much I liked hard tails and went out and bought a Lyndsky Pro 27.5. So it's not really going to be a trail bike for now, but the option to use it that way would be nice. I am thinking of going with a rigid fork. What should I get? A true bonti fork is way more than I want to spend on this bike. Or should I get a suspension fork? I've seen some out there for sale used, make sense to get one now before they are even harder to find, if that possible. So what would you do?

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    Is your fork/stem/headset threaded or threadless?

    If you don't mind the look, these aren't horrible:

    https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=82&p=887

    or

    https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=82&p=1659

    The height isn't perfect, yours with sag is probably running close to 405mm.

    Another option something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carver-Bike...AAAOSwqMFZnGTo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
    My Bontrager ownership has come full-circle. Years ago, on this thread I lamented selling my Trek made '99 Bontrager Privateer Comp. Later, I bought a Santa Cruz made Race and after that an even nicer Race Lite. But, for sentimental reasons I always wanted the original one back and this weekend, 15 years later, I finally got the chance after bumping into the guy who bought it. Amazingly, it's still in the same condition I sold it. I know the Privateers don't get as much love but I love it and I'm so glad to have it back!
    Awesome! I have way too many bikes I want back I sold. I dream of finding them again. There's a Fat Chance Yo Eddy out there I miss the most. I was a snob about privateers in the past, but you couldn't tell the difference riding and the steer tube size was better. These frames where still US made, just in Wisconsin, so the quality was there.

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    I saw those Carvers, that's what made me think rigid. Those other forks sort of look like the bontrager fork, where the Carvers are more classic looking. How do they ride compared to a steel fork?

    I have a treadless and it was the long travel sid at 80mm.

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    You might want to look for one of these Kona P2's. They're nice forks, and the straight blade matches the Bontrager aesthetic well.

    Bikeman Kona P2 Mountain Fork, 1 Inch!

    They do come back in stock there from time to time.
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    As for rigid steel forks you can have a look on the PACE RC30 (GoatSurfer Retro MTB - Pace Forks Timeline) the 1996 modell was avaiable suspension corrected as well. Still not easy to find. Good luck.

    I got myself this one on the weekend:

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    A friend picked it up. The seatpost was a bit too large but came out without any problems.

    All the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caemis View Post
    A friend picked it up. The seatpost was a bit too large but came out without any problems.
    LOL Glad you mentioned the seat post. I was able to ask about your saddle height.
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    I didn't realize seatposts came in 700mm versions...
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    Its really long, isnt it. And the position on the bike would look pretty funny, but I assume I'll need some assistance to get on top of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Is your fork/stem/headset threaded or threadless?

    If you don't mind the look, these aren't horrible:

    https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=82&p=887

    or

    https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=82&p=1659

    The height isn't perfect, yours with sag is probably running close to 405mm.

    Another option something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carver-Bike...AAAOSwqMFZnGTo
    Bro did you see the weight on those carbon forks? They are heavier than that steel one. I just picked up a race lite today and might build it up 1x7 and try to go sub 10 kilos. Interested in getting a rigid fork for it. So far this looks to be the best option new:
    Carver XC 410

    My guess is that there are better, lighter options from back in the day with the 1" threaded steerer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4AM View Post
    Bro did you see the weight on those carbon forks? They are heavier than that steel one. I just picked up a race lite today and might build it up 1x7 and try to go sub 10 kilos. Interested in getting a rigid fork for it. So far this looks to be the best option new:
    Carver XC 410

    My guess is that there are better, lighter options from back in the day with the 1" threaded steerer.
    Note that the weight listed for the Carver fork is without V-brake posts, which are clamp-on and available separately. I own both forks (as yet unused), and they are clearly made with the exact same dropouts, crown, and maybe in the same factory in China.

    The Exotic 425mm carbon version of the fork with disc and V-brake posts is listed as 1060g (mine is 1087g uncut). I also have a 410mm Carver fork (938g uncut disc only). The V-brake adapters are over 100g as a pair so the weights are equivalent. Cutting the steerer should shave 100g or more, but both of these forks are already lighter than my Bontrager composite fork.

    The Carver is better because 410mm is perfect for the Bontrager frame, and the V-brake posts are bolt-on. You could certainly buy the Carver bolt-on V-brake posts and use them on the Exotic fork with no fixed V-brake posts, they use identical carbon tubes.

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    Just wanted to show you all my 1991 Bontrager Race (L) w/ Fat Chance Big One Inch fork. Salsa Roller stem.w/ Chris King headset & Front Hub. Paul's Stoplight brakes,levers, rear derailleur w/ Titanium 7 speed cassette. I tried to keep it all American as I upgraded parts with the exception of the XT Thumb shifters . Weighs about 21.5 lbs. Trying to decide whether I should repaint it or just replace the decals. Also thinking about putting the switchblade back on to keep the original geometry of the bike. However the one inch is lighter and an awesome fork.
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    Bontrager Privateer S Build with 1x10

    Hello everyone and hoping I can begin my project here. I'll try to make this simple...
    I recently bought a 97 Bontrager Privateer S Frame and looking to build it up with modern components. I recently saw a "90's" Marin built with Sram 1x11 NX components and it looks fantastic (see pic)...
    My problem is this. What bottom bracket do I even start with to begin my project? Getting started has been difficult.. Any advice on getting a beginning plan together would be grateful.Official Bontrager Thread-1x.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemazz11 View Post
    Hello everyone and hoping I can begin my project here. I'll try to make this simple...
    I recently bought a 97 Bontrager Privateer S Frame and looking to build it up with modern components. I recently saw a "90's" Marin built with Sram 1x11 NX components and it looks fantastic (see pic)...
    My problem is this. What bottom bracket do I even start with to begin my project? Getting started has been difficult.. Any advice on getting a beginning plan together would be grateful.Click image for larger version. 

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    You need a standard 68/73mm BSA BB.

    But, figure out what crankset you want first, then get the bottom bracket for that crankset. There are bottom bracket / crankset options from square taper, ISIS, Shimano interfaces, and 22/24/24/ and 30mm external cup BB's that will all fit this frame.

    But, really, you should probably come up with a budget and general direction you want to go with this. If you just want to get it ridable again with some decent components, you could probably get a used wheels, crankset, BB, cassette, and drivetrain on ebay and only spend a few hundred dollars. Otherwise, you could spend as much as you want as modern components will still fit this frame. The NX route would be somewhere in the middle, you'll need a 68/73mm GXP bottom bracket for that crankset. Otherwise, once you have wheels, the rest of the NX groupset except the brakes should fit. I'd get some Avid FR5 levers and whatever comparable brakes they have these days.

    One other thing, is the fork usable at all? These indy's were pretty bad even back in the mid-90's, not even sure if you can get elastomers for them these days.
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    Jestep,
    That is the answer I was hoping for and really appreciate it and your time. I understand about a budget and where I want it to look cool, so why drop so much $$..? Glutton for punishment perhaps..
    As for the fork? I have no idea except for the guy that sold it to me believes it is in good shape. He found it on ebay and does not believe it saw any use whatsoever. Total Mech type of guy.. I can replace of course..
    That said,
    I have no problem getting used on ebay but since I'm new to this I fear I'll buy the wrong part and be stuck with it, LoL.. This is why I thought starting with the BB would be the plan.. I do like the 1x concept instead of the classic 3x which I've considered and vintage is even more expensive then new!... what group do you think I should I begin to search for that would not have "new" prices and give me what I'm looking for?
    I would say that i will be using the bike for light mtn biking and city ripping. I have a DS mountain bike so it won't be hitting the hard trails..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemazz11 View Post
    Jestep,
    That is the answer I was hoping for and really appreciate it and your time. I understand about a budget and where I want it to look cool, so why drop so much $$..? Glutton for punishment perhaps..
    As for the fork? I have no idea except for the guy that sold it to me believes it is in good shape. He found it on ebay and does not believe it saw any use whatsoever. Total Mech type of guy.. I can replace of course..
    That said,
    I have no problem getting used on ebay but since I'm new to this I fear I'll buy the wrong part and be stuck with it, LoL.. This is why I thought starting with the BB would be the plan.. I do like the 1x concept instead of the classic 3x which I've considered and vintage is even more expensive then new!... what group do you think I should I begin to search for that would not have "new" prices and give me what I'm looking for?
    I would say that i will be using the bike for light mtn biking and city ripping. I have a DS mountain bike so it won't be hitting the hard trails..
    I suggest starting a new build thread for this in the vintage or 26er forum. That way this thread isn't consumed by a personal build. Can make suggestions further from there. There's a number of potential issues so would be much better for its own thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    One other thing, is the fork usable at all? These indy's were pretty bad even back in the mid-90's, not even sure if you can get elastomers for them these days.
    We have 1 Indy XC and 3 Judy XCs. We sent one of them to Jerry from Hippie Tech in Garden City, Idaho. He did a very good job rebuilding it and replacing the springs. You can also get springs online for Indy XCs. We bought some for another one of our bikes and did a fork rebuild at home, and the fork works flawlessly now. If you have to replace the elastomers I definitely recommend upgrading to springs, the fork functions much better with them.
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    you selling that hippie tech rebuilt judy by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williwoods View Post
    you selling that hippie tech rebuilt judy by chance?
    No sorry. I have it on my 1997 Privateer Comp that is converted to 1x with new rims, wide bars, and tubeless.

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    You have a pic of this bike? I'm almost done with my 97 privateer and I'm doing the same with handlebar, components and wheels. Found a great retro seat on ebay.
    I'll post when completed.

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    You have a pic of this bike?
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    That is really sweet. Are those Indy XC forks? How is that holding up? My frame is in this string a few posts ago. I should have it finished this week.
    Doing the same type of build with shimano zee 1x10.. It will be more of an urban assault vehicle.

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    Bontrager Privateer S Build with Shimano Zee 1x10

    She is all done. I really dig it and rides nice. Weighs in about 20 pounds and rips nicely.
    The Indy XC fork seems to be just fine at least for now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemazz11 View Post
    She is all done. I really dig it and rides nice. Weighs in about 20 pounds and rips nicely.
    20 pounds? Damn that is such a light build. Sick saddle it's the same one I have on my bike, only mine has 2.5k miles of rubbing so there is barely a label left on it. Glad you went 1x. Old bikes are so nice when you choose the right modern aspects to include in them. My dad and I started a club called the Neo-Retro Cycling club where the members ride bikes that have the best of the old (steel radness) and the best of the new (1x drivetrains, wide rims, etc.). So stoked on your build man I hope you love it.

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    '92 or '93 Race

    Just picked this up a few weeks ago. Always wanted a classic Bontrager. It's a '92 or '93 Race by my estimation. All parts from the original build except probably the tires which are still mid-90s. Interesting that it has a Specialized build kit - fork, crankset, rims, Prolong saddle, handlebar, and grips. Great condition.

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    ^nice looking bonty! Hard to tell from the pic, but are the seat stays one piece or two pieces? That and the drops outs are two distinctive ways to date these bikes.
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    Yes, definitely two piece seatstays, this is way before Trek. I'll take a closer look at the dropouts, I seem to remember horizontal or vertical dropouts mean something.

    Some other features to date stamp it: block vs. slanted decals, I'm not sure when they switched, I can only tell from the online catalogs but there's a couple year gap in the ones I can find on the web. Other identifiers: bottle mounts are brazed on mine and not bonded. Cable stops are TIG welded and not bonded/riveted aluminum. Not sure when they made the switch.

    I had a friend who bought one in '93 or so and I remember it had bonded cable stops and water bottle mounts. He also set it up with the Stealth fork
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    The front derailleur pulley was only on the earlier race/racelites as well. I think it was around 94 when they removed it. They switched to the slanted stickers maybe a year later, so guessing late 93 or 94 on this frame.
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    I think the above date guesses are good but it looks more, to me, like an Off Road as opposed to a Race. The seat clamp is the same as the one on my fillet brazed which is built with an Off Road tube set. Off Roads also had two bends on the chain stays. Mtbslocal's look that way though it's hard to tell from the side view. That said, All the stops appear to be welded and Race style.

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    Fork options - Privateer S?

    Trying to get a bike and rider out of retirement. The bike's 20 years old, but generally in good working order. However, the Indy XC elastomers are shot, coming out of the fork in crumbles. Elastomers seem to be an abandoned suspension tech, so looking for help here. Point me at an old thread if it exists (probably).

    Scanning the web and this thread gets me:
    "New bike" - not happening, other places to sink cash first
    "Replace elastomers" - I can find them, $52. Simple, but tech is dated
    "Replace elastomers with springs" - how? Can I get damping?
    "Rigid fork" - this bike will be on trails or it won't be ridden
    "Replace fork" - the dreaded 1" threaded steerer rears its ugly head. What's doable?

    My goal here is a bike suitable for trail riding. New elastomers seem the path of least resistance, but if there's a great improvement to be made, I'll consider it. For sake of discussion, let's cap it at around $200.

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    Whatís the axle to crown you need? I have a 1Ē threadless fork with carbon legs that Iím not using. Itís disc only though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polomanH2O View Post
    "Rigid fork" - this bike will be on trails or it won't be ridden

    My goal here is a bike suitable for trail riding. New elastomers seem the path of least resistance, but if there's a great improvement to be made, I'll consider it. For sake of discussion, let's cap it at around $200.
    After getting the first of my now 4 bontragers in 1994, I'll tell you that I've now essentially spent almost a quarter of a century trying to make them rigid. The only reason you "need" a suspension fork for trail use is if you're trying to keep up with a bunch of reckless, testosterone-fueled, 30-something, bros on boulder-strewn trails like you see in the you tube / go pro videos. There are other valid ways to enjoy trails. And honestly, if that's the kind of riding you want to do, the bike's geometry is going to be more limiting than anything.

    My best 1" fork is an air-sprung 2006 SID that I cut apart and re-built usind a bolt-on judy crown. That's a lot trouble though and, again, the 28.6 stancions are limiting for hard core trail riding.

    The suspension-corrected Carver forks that are available on ebay right now are one of the best, readily available, inexpensive rigid options we've ever had.

    Keeping the bonty is a worthwhile goal but unless you get lucky and find some high-end and lightly used sus fork on ebay, my personal suggestion would be to go rigid with the biggest, cushiest tire (2.5, 2.6?) tire you can fit, slow down a tiny bit, and put the savings toward a second, modern, all-mountain geo bike for crazy downhill stuff.

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    If you can find a replacement coil spring set to replace the Indy type 2 setup, that might be the best option. Coil springs last and work well. That's what I did with my 95 Judy XC's when the elastomers turned to chalk.

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    Good suggestions, thanks

    iamkeith - I like the "don't be a sucker for the propoganda" vibe. Not a true retro-grouch, but I may jury rig the fork for a trial and get a Carver fork. Would have to get the headset taken care of at LBS, but eBay cro-mo forks are in the price range.

    fatchanceti - looks like 410 mm, but I don't plan to switch to disc

    kenjihara - Replacement elastomers/MCUs are availalbe - would a coils be a real improvement? If so, is there any guide to swaps: size, spring rate, dampers? DIY or check with LBS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by polomanH2O View Post
    Replacement elastomers/MCUs are availalbe - would a coils be a real improvement? If so, is there any guide to swaps: size, spring rate, dampers? DIY or check with LBS?
    If you go with looking for replacement fork parts, my suggestion is to avoid replacing the internals with coil springs. Elastomers have natural damping (a slow return to their unsprung state), coil springs do not. Unless you find a spring kit that included oil damping, adding a coil spring creates a pogo stick on your bike (not unlike a WalMart bike). A rigid fork would be way better than a coil fork without damping.
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    Finally scored one of these. Have been looking forever for one. Been harder to find than switchblade forks.
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    Hmmm, interesting item, can't say I've ever seen one, about what year were those made? Oh and where did it pop up from? Enjoy...they look sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claus View Post
    Hmmm, interesting item, can't say I've ever seen one, about what year were those made? Oh and where did it pop up from? Enjoy...they look sweet
    Ebay. I've only seen 2 of them for sale in roughly 6 years of watching. My guess is they came out late 90's likely when the other titec made flat crowbars were being produced. I haven't been able to pinpoint an exact year on them. If anyone has the details I'd love to know.
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    Bump... Thread has had no new posts in far to long.

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    Another bump to keep things alive. My '97 Race Lite in Vermont. Currently Sram XX but I got a new, modern ride so this is about to be cleaned up and rebuilt with the original M950 XTR from back in the day.
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    A couple of pics of my Privateer and Race Lite. In these days where big travel bikes with carbon fiber or hydroformed aluminum frames are the norm for every kind of off-road riding, the Bontragers still shine as the essence of all that's really needed for simple single track riding.

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    If you're still looking for a decent, period correct, 1" fork a 1998 Marzocchi Z2 just popped up on craigslist in San Jose, CA. $150, looks like it's in good shape.

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    Some mid-winter photos of my newly restored Race Lite

    Mostly M950 XTR, as it was when I originally bought it in 1997. It had a Judy SL at that point though, instead of the SID I bought in 1999. The wheels are CrossMax SLs from 2003 and the crank is an M952 9spd, which looks slightly different than the original, but close enough. Decals from Gil at retrodecal.co.uk. Powdercoat is original - a little (well, a lot) Brasso really brought the shine out.

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    Nice work, that bike looks a lot like my RL, wish I had that Sid though!!🙂 My Judy has a Risse cartridge which helps, but still running elastomers which are pretty dead feeling.

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    I went with new technology on Bonty. Eagle NX on my Ď96 Privateer. Parents bought it brand new for me for my 15th birthday and it has sentimental value to me so I finally brought it back to life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by boots View Post
    I went with new technology on Bonty. Eagle NX on my Ď96 Privateer. Parents bought it brand new for me for my 15th birthday and it has sentimental value to me so I finally brought it back to life.


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    I threw a Z3 BAM on my 97 ti lite a while ago but the springs are mucho soft for my fat arse. So I keep cruising ebay for NOS springs.

    Ran across this today, in case anybody wants a "new" build of a longer travel 'zoke in 1". Intriguing, anyway: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marzocchi-M...p/173849733459

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    I am getting ready to put my vintage Bontrager collection up for sale in the classifieds. I have a Road Lite, a CX and olden Paul Sodoff of Rock Lobster modified modified race lite, all size XL. I will post pics soon, please give me a shout with any interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by looper View Post
    I am getting ready to put my vintage Bontrager collection up for sale in the classifieds. I have a Road Lite, a CX and olden Paul Sodoff of Rock Lobster modified modified race lite, all size XL. I will post pics soon, please give me a shout with any interest.
    Got pics? In what way is the race lite modified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by looper View Post
    I am getting ready to put my vintage Bontrager collection up for sale in the classifieds. I have a Road Lite, a CX and olden Paul Sodoff of Rock Lobster modified modified race lite, all size XL. I will post pics soon, please give me a shout with any interest.
    Post pics for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davee5 View Post
    I threw a Z3 BAM on my 97 ti lite a while ago but the springs are mucho soft for my fat arse. So I keep cruising ebay for NOS springs.
    A while back I purchased a couple of lots of Marzocchi Ď96-01 Bomber and 90ís Rock Shox Mag/Judy/SID springs and replacement parts from Hippie Tech and a European parts seller that shut down.

    If anyone on this forum needs springs or parts for Judy or Bomber Z1/Z2/Z3, etc. forks, Iíll let them go for less than eBay sellers. I have several Bontrager bikes with various forks, but I donít need all these parts and springs, especially the heavy ones. This isnít meant to be a commercial post, my only motivation is to help keeps these great bikes on the road.

    I also have the tools to install bushings in Judy/SID forks, and some spare knobs and caps and things. Send me a PM if you need anything, please donít reply in the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    I've got a couple on Bontragers built up and finally meased the forks. 410mm is probably amout right fir a rigid fork.

    I have a 2000 Rock Shox SID (~440mm) and a 2003 Marzocchi Marathon (~470mm) on my bikes. The SID is perfect. The Marathon is too long and the bike handles less well. Going down to 410mm is probably pretty close to where the SID rides on the trail.
    Hey laffeaux, hopefully you'll see this.

    Did you have the Extension Control Cartridge (ECC) in your Marathon fork?

    I'm wondering if this is one way to provide lowered climbability when "locked down" but also allow more travel when headed downhill.

    Anyone else know of this option, or used it?

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    A couple of months ago I got this one for my wife. Its obvious a Privateer build in 1998 with a 1 1/8 headtube. Some pics for now:





    It came with the original Judy and Dia.Compe headset and I will build it mostly with parts I have around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caemis View Post
    A couple of months ago I got this one for my wife. Its obvious a Privateer build in 1998 with a 1 1/8 headtube. Some pics for now:





    It came with the original Judy and Dia.Compe headset and I will build it mostly with parts I have around...

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    Nice. I just finished a fully rigid SS build on the same frame, mine's a 1in though. I'll have to post a picture. This and the rasta are the only 1-1/8in frames that I've seen but they both came in 1in as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Nice. I just finished a fully rigid SS build on the same frame, mine's a 1in though. I'll have to post a picture. This and the rasta are the only 1-1/8in frames that I've seen but they both came in 1in as well.
    Yeah, post some pics. This one will be a Singlespeed as well but I will try the Judy first (rather my wife). I think these 1 1/8" Bontis are pretty rare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caemis View Post
    Yeah, post some pics. This one will be a Singlespeed as well but I will try the Judy first (rather my wife). I think these 1 1/8" Bontis are pretty rare...
    Ignore the crazy steerer shim height. I hadn't messed with this short of a stem before with this frame and bar combo so didn't want to cut it until I figured out what I want to do with it.

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    Does anyone have the grey paint with blue decals colorway that was likely from mid 90s ish? If so please post up! I remember seeing one in a shop years ago but couldn't find any pics online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex-henson View Post
    Does anyone have the grey paint with blue decals colorway that was likely from mid 90s ish? If so please post up! I remember seeing one in a shop years ago but couldn't find any pics online.
    It may have been someone putting non-standard stickers on it, the ti lite has a blue paw print as well but I'm assuming that's not what you're talking about. I have a grey one with the yellow and black stickers, but I think that one was fairly common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    It may have been someone putting non-standard stickers on it, the ti lite has a blue paw print as well but I'm assuming that's not what you're talking about. I have a grey one with the yellow and black stickers, but I think that one was fairly common.
    I am fairly certain it was an original option. The one I saw was in late 90's in a shop, and I saw one on craigslist a year or two ago in a too small size.

    I just looked in 1997 catalog and I think its this:
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    Selling my Carver 1" rigid fork thought someone here might be interested as it's a good 1" rigid option. It's the 410 A2C some have spoke of in this thread. Anyone interested? If so, make me a reasonable offer. It's threadless and ~10-10.5 inches of steer tube.

    Sorry i dunno how to upload pics using my phone but can email if anybody is interested.

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    since this thread came up, there is an almost minty bontrager road lite with dura ace listed for sale on velocipedesalon.com right now. Size large I believe.

    https://www.velocipedesalon.com/foru...e-l-52324.html

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    This thread brings back memories. I had to dig up these old photos. If memory serves, this was a 1998 Privateer S that I bought as a left-over in 1999. It was a bit small for me, and the stock seatpost was too short, so I had them swap it for the longer Ritchey post. I got plenty of ribbing for a Ritchey post on a Bontrager!

    I sold it 2003ish on eBay.

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    Hey All - Hope I'm posting this kind of question in the correct thread. Can anyone help identify the year and model of this Bontrager frame? I believe it to be a mid 90's pre-Trek , steel frame Race Lite. Numbers stamped on the rear hangers are 0510 and 0600. Bought and rode it way back when, just can't remember the details! I'm looking to sell it and want to make sure to provide the right info for buyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranberry7 View Post
    Hey All - Hope I'm posting this kind of question in the correct thread. Can anyone help identify the year and model of this Bontrager frame? I believe it to be a mid 90's pre-Trek , steel frame Race Lite. Numbers stamped on the rear hangers are 0510 and 0600. Bought and rode it way back when, just can't remember the details! I'm looking to sell it and want to make sure to provide the right info for buyers.
    As stated many times before, you can not determine the year and/or modell by the frame number. Still, it is possible because of different markers:

    a) seatstays are one piece - 1997/98 (not pre Trek! but made in Santa Cruz)
    b) no pulley on the seattube for the FD - at least 1994 if I am not mistaken, but because of the seatstays that doesnt really matter
    c) the headtube is not recessed, therefore its a Race and not a Race Lite

    So my conclusion: you have one of the last Santa Cruz made Bontrager Race frames from 1997/98.

    But be aware, price wise Bontrager frames are usually [aka reality not ebay] sold for around 300$ if not less pending on overall shape, etc.

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    Unless they're absolutely pristine, $300 is a huge stretch these days. I was only able to get about $225 including shipping for my 95 race lite frame about a year ago. Seems like unless it's a ti lite or a super rare earlier model, horizontal dropouts for example, their value is the lowest it's ever been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Unless they're absolutely pristine, $300 is a huge stretch these days. I was only able to get about $225 including shipping for my 95 race lite frame about a year ago. Seems like unless it's a ti lite or a super rare earlier model, horizontal dropouts for example, their value is the lowest it's ever been.
    You're probably right ...

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    Reviving this thread with a new old bike!

    Hey all, I was gifted this old Bontrager frame and after reading through this thread, I've come to realize that it's probably nicer than the Privateer I thought it was, and is more likely an early 90's, Santa Cruz, pre-Trek, Race Lite! I bought a cheapo Sunlite fork before I understood better what I had unfortunately, so forgive the crass aesthetics. I threw some random parts on just so I could check sizing, it might get a nicer rebuild down the line.

    Can anyone confirm for me what I've got? Also, anyone have any cool old rigid forks that'd pair nicely with it?

    Features of note: relieved headtube, segmented seatstays, front derailleur pulley, anti-suck mount, gussets galore.







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    Link for your pics seems broken. Canīt see them
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    Ah Imgur is blocked on this forum? Bizarre. Tried to upload directly and that didn't work either, heres the imgur album link!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainerhale View Post
    Ah Imgur is blocked on this forum? Bizarre. Tried to upload directly and that didn't work either, heres the imgur album link!
    https://imgur.com/a/5NxSh0b
    93 or 94 racelite by my estimation, definitely a racelite though. It has the front derailleur pulley threading which I believe was gone in 95'ish, but the recessed headtube is only on the racelites.
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    Im not sure if this is how to post something in this forum but I have come across a Vintage Bontrager and would like to find out some more info about it, any help would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atown bikes View Post
    Im not sure if this is how to post something in this forum but I have come across a Vintage Bontrager and would like to find out some more info about it, any help would be appreciated.
    That doesn't look like any bontrager frame I can think of, but if it is, it's going to be something super early, like late 80's with the fillets and the seatpost clamp. The fact the sticker is on crooked makes me think someone just threw it on there. Maybe a late 70's to mid 80's ritchey?
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    Awesome, thanks for info!

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    My wifes Bontrager in bikepacking mode ...


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    Bro I'm so stoked right now. Just picked this up from an absolute legend!


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    Awesome. Looks like it's in great condition. There's a NOS one on ebay I've been watching, but way too expensive IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    Awesome. Looks like it's in great condition.
    From afar it looks great, up close there is a crack on the seat tube weld between the actual seat tube and the seatpost sleeve:

    I emailed Ti Cycles yesterday about repair... Haven't heard back from them yet but I hope it is easy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by atown bikes View Post
    Im not sure if this is how to post something in this forum but I have come across a Vintage Bontrager and would like to find out some more info about it, any help would be appreciated.
    Legit. Brazed early one. Probably mid 80ís. Salsa Portage strap.

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    Took the geared orange bike out to play in the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atown bikes View Post
    Im not sure if this is how to post something in this forum but I have come across a Vintage Bontrager and would like to find out some more info about it, any help would be appreciated.
    Looks like one of his mid 80 cyclocross bikes. I had Keith make me a custom mountain Bike frame back in 1987 and it's all filet brazed like the bike you have. I haven't been able to find but a couple of examples on the internet that he made this way. I also have a lot of his early paper work he gave out on ordering custom bikes, fit guides and price lists etc. Attached is a pict of the bike I still have. Over the years most the parts were replaced but are still pretty vintage.
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    I just pulled this down from my bike cave area. I'm trying to get some general info on it. Toying with the idea of building a vintage ish gravel/cx bike..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zracre1 View Post
    I just pulled this down from my bike cave area. I'm trying to get some general info on it. Toying with the idea of building a vintage ish gravel/cx bike..



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    Late 80's to early 90's, cant remember the steel but these were top end hand built bikes and would make a great cruiser or CX/gravel bike. They still have value as well, roughly $900 - $1000 for the fork and frame, which is way more than even racelites, if you do ever decide to part with it. Personally I would build it up and enjoy it, absolutely a classic.

    Google images may be one of the better places to find info these days, the main search results are difficult on the more obscure stuff like this.
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    I hate to even post this. A teacher at my school sent me this pic of a tandem project he started during quarantine. It made me a little nauseous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 cog frog View Post
    I hate to even post this. A teacher at my school sent me this pic of a tandem project he started during quarantine. It made me a little nauseous.


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    I just died a little seeing this... I saved up for an entire summer in 8th'ish grade and bought this same bike which I still have.

    Mine in its current form.

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    I will get a few more photos up. Thanks for the info! Didnt realize it had that much value. It is pretty mint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    I just died a little seeing this... I saved up for an entire summer in 8th'ish grade and bought this same bike which I still have.

    Mine in its current form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 cog frog View Post
    I hate to even post this. A teacher at my school sent me this pic of a tandem project he started during quarantine. It made me a little nauseous.


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    Wow, that's sickening. I hope you told him that was a big mistake. Millions of crap MTBs rotting away, and chops up a Bontrager? Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zracre1 View Post
    I just pulled this down from my bike cave area. I'm trying to get some general info on it. Toying with the idea of building a vintage ish gravel/cx bike..


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    Nice!!

    I still have my Bonty CX and take it out occasionally. The only less than ideal thing with these frames is the rear tire clearance. There are many newer wider high-volume tires being made today that won't fit on these bikes. If you only want a 32 or 33mm tires you are set. But if you try and put on a 38mm tire, it won't work on the rear.
    Each bicycle owned exponentially increases the probability that none is working correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    Wow, that's sickening. I hope you told him that was a big mistake. Millions of crap MTBs rotting away, and chops up a Bontrager? Ugh.
    I did. He didnít know any better. He got it at a garage sale or off the local classifieds I think. He just needed something steel.

    I wish Iíd known before he chopped it up, I would have bought it and given him something worth cutting up.


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    Bontis going up for sale

    I have a few vintage Bontragers going up for sale if anyone is interested all are XL. I have a Road Lite, CX and a Race Lite. tomlapinski at hotmail

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    Slowly coming along. For some reason the top tube decal is white on a silver backgroundand the down tube decal is silver on a white background.



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    Hi, to all all on this thread. I have just pulled out of storage Ti Lite that I bought new and haven't used in a number of years- It is basically all original in very little used shape, the only thing i changed on it was the last time I used it I put on 1.25 tires as I used it as a street bike in NYC. Now I am trying to decide what to do with it. i like that it is rather small and easy to haul in the car. i am thinking of possibly going electric or 1x11speed. Any ideas on what to do with it?

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    If it IS a size small I may be interested in it should •ou sell it. you can contact me at [email protected]

    Quote Originally Posted by lightstrum View Post
    Hi, to all all on this thread. I have just pulled out of storage Ti Lite that I bought new and haven't used in a number of years- It is basically all original in very little used shape, the only thing i changed on it was the last time I used it I put on 1.25 tires as I used it as a street bike in NYC. Now I am trying to decide what to do with it. i like that it is rather small and easy to haul in the car. i am thinking of possibly going electric or 1x11speed. Any ideas on what to do with it?

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    As a past owner of a ti-lite I can say it was one of my favorites set up as a hardtail with a Marzocchi short travel super fly fork. I have gone the route of street oriented fatboys on vintage frames and I am at a point where I hate to see that street vintage anymore, as most of these bikes can still be great fun on smoother single track.

    I would freshen it up with a newer wheelset and lighter tubeless mtb tires, equip the bike w/1x drivetrain (even an 11-34 xtr works great and the Shimano xtr SL-m970 rear shifter is one of the best imho). I have used this combo on more than a few vintage frames and itís worked out well. The 10 (11-36) and 11 setup would get you a clutch style rear derailleur though, and match that to a big/little 34 tooth ring on the front and you would have a nice setup. For comparison I am running a SRAM 1x10 on my 29er Vassago Verhauen and itís 11-36 XO x 38 up front and thatís precise super reliable and simple while also covering a great range of gear options.

    This is just my thought process and may not align with your thoughts at all, but having done this with various Bontragers, Gt Zaskars, and various other 90ís vintage bikes I thought I would reply.

    I would also consider going with a rigid front fork if your body can stand it. The result will be an agile bike that can be run fast on a lot of single track and if you want to jump back to your old wheels with street tires it will translate nicely with the gear range and bike weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightstrum View Post
    Hi, to all all on this thread. I have just pulled out of storage Ti Lite that I bought new and haven't used in a number of years- It is basically all original in very little used shape, the only thing i changed on it was the last time I used it I put on 1.25 tires as I used it as a street bike in NYC. Now I am trying to decide what to do with it. i like that it is rather small and easy to haul in the car. i am thinking of possibly going electric or 1x11speed. Any ideas on what to do with it?
    I donīt like 1x. A 2x9 or 2x10 makes a lot more sense to me. If you want slicks go w/ compass rat trap 2.3 tires and experience state of the art supple tires; it will cost you but i would rather spend on good tires than new shimano drivetrains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightstrum View Post
    Hi, to all all on this thread. I have just pulled out of storage Ti Lite that I bought new and haven't used in a number of years- It is basically all original in very little used shape, the only thing i changed on it was the last time I used it I put on 1.25 tires as I used it as a street bike in NYC. Now I am trying to decide what to do with it. i like that it is rather small and easy to haul in the car. i am thinking of possibly going electric or 1x11speed. Any ideas on what to do with it?
    If you decide to go electric, please just sell it and grab something else with what you make from it. Not going to get into any sort of existential debate, but it' such a classic bike, someone will still ride it as intended and you can make money in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jestep View Post
    If you decide to go electric, please just sell it and grab something else with what you make from it. Not going to get into any sort of existential debate, but it' such a classic bike, someone will still ride it as intended and you can make money in the process.
    This^^^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightstrum View Post
    Hi, to all all on this thread. I have just pulled out of storage Ti Lite that I bought new and haven't used in a number of years- It is basically all original in very little used shape, the only thing i changed on it was the last time I used it I put on 1.25 tires as I used it as a street bike in NYC. Now I am trying to decide what to do with it. i like that it is rather small and easy to haul in the car. i am thinking of possibly going electric or 1x11speed. Any ideas on what to do with it?
    Pics? Lots of interest here Iím sure!


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    Hey, thanks for this. I was unaware of these tires but this may get me back into this bike, I never liked it with the skinny tires but road it more on the road and the old knobbys were too slow- this sounds great. What do you think of the new 5100 1x11 or 2x11 for this? And any idea how to but a drop bar on to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N10S View Post
    As a past owner of a ti-lite I can say it was one of my favorites set up as a hardtail with a Marzocchi short travel super fly fork. I have gone the route of street oriented fatboys on vintage frames and I am at a point where I hate to see that street vintage anymore, as most of these bikes can still be great fun on smoother single track.

    I would freshen it up with a newer wheelset and lighter tubeless mtb tires, equip the bike w/1x drivetrain (even an 11-34 xtr works great and the Shimano xtr SL-m970 rear shifter is one of the best imho). I have used this combo on more than a few vintage frames and itís worked out well. The 10 (11-36) and 11 setup would get you a clutch style rear derailleur though, and match that to a big/little 34 tooth ring on the front and you would have a nice setup. For comparison I am running a SRAM 1x10 on my 29er Vassago Verhauen and itís 11-36 XO x 38 up front and thatís precise super reliable and simple while also covering a great range of gear options.

    This is just my thought process and may not align with your thoughts at all, but having done this with various Bontragers, Gt Zaskars, and various other 90ís vintage bikes I thought I would reply.

    I would also consider going with a rigid front fork if your body can stand it. The result will be an agile bike that can be run fast on a lot of single track and if you want to jump back to your old wheels with street tires it will translate nicely with the gear range and bike weight.
    New wheelset and lighter tubeless mtb tires- Like what? I just looked into the compass rat trap 2.3 in the other answer- that seems like a good way to go. Any idea how to put drop bars on to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 cog frog View Post
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    I will get them up soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    This^^^.
    The electric thing is just passing lazy ass thought- what has me interested is the newer tires the 2.3 rat traps may just be what this old rat neees to get rolling again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datasurfer View Post
    If it IS a size small I may be interested in it should •ou sell it. you can contact me at [email protected]
    It is not a small. Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightstrum View Post
    New wheelset and lighter tubeless mtb tires- Like what? I just looked into the compass rat trap 2.3 in the other answer- that seems like a good way to go. Any idea how to put drop bars on to this?
    Drop bars? Not difficult. Chose the bars you want then check their diameter: most new ones are 31.8. So next you will have to find a stem to place your bars where they need to be. There are fewer stems which raise the bars tall enough for comfort but they are there. You may have to buy diff lengths and rises till you find what you need so go w/ the cheapest stem possible. They are all ahead stems: if you have a threaded steerer you will need an adapter and thatīs super easy to find. Next you will have to buy brake levers, shifters, cables.
    If it were me i would go w/ a Jones bar which flares enough to mimic the lower drops. You get to keep your brake levers and shifters There are a myriad of different bars these days. The hardest part is findind the right stem length,
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    Regarding the "newer, lighter wheelset" new is relative to the Bontrager. I have used Mavic Crossmax and Crossland wheel sets and they are both very light and tubeless. I ran both at different times on my ti-lite. There are really a lot of nice wheelset options out there and custom builds with Chris King or even XTR hubs are nice options. As far as the handlebars go I have had many of my 26 and 29 rigid and hardtail bikes set-up with flared drop bars. Personally I like the feel of the On-One Midge flared drop bar. I had one of the original WTB dirt drop bars and the Midge is very close in bend and feel. Its a great option with bar end shifters, I typically just roll with a shimano 1x9 using a single Dura Ace bar end rear shifter and an 11-34 XT or XTR cassette. The Midge bar is available in 25.4 and 31.8 and for me the latter feels more laterally stiff and is a bit lighter than the 25.4 version. Here is a recent example I had last year on a Raleigh Furley. The stem is a Velo Orange Cigne 90mm and has a removable 31.8mm faceplate. Worked great with the Midge and the 1x set-up. This is perfect if you like riding in the drops as opposed to the brake hoods. According to the folks I emailed with at Velo Orange this stem can be used with their quill adapter for those with a 1" threaded headset.

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    Another option is what I have on my 89 Bianchi Axis, which is a quill dirt drop style riser stem. This pic shows the stock set-up (fresh tape ) and this stem and bar according to my micrometer are 25.4 although some are 26.0 depending on the stem you find. This one also has a roller which is a bit different than precious ones I have used which just have a through-hole to route the cable through the stem iirc.This set-up requires less work but finding a flared 25.4 bar is getting tougher these days.

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    I got a look at those Rat Trap Tires and really like those. Did not realize those existed. I could imagine a drop bar 1x ti-lite with those tires set-up tubeless. Go with a ti syncros seatpost and a ti railed brooks swallow and you are good to go!

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    Just had to post because it gives me so much pleasure. Found behind a thrift store covered with punk stickers. Was destined for the metals bin. They insisted that I give them a nominal donation of $5 for it. When I peeled off the stickers, holy shit! It is a medium, but they must run small. I bought a new Thomson seat post for it. Has a Chris King headset, and Marzocchi bomber fork. I just replaced the seals.

    Love it!
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    Just had to post because it gives me so much pleasure. Found behind a thrift store covered with punk stickers. Was destined for the metals bin. They insisted that I give them a nominal donation of $5 for it. When I peeled off the stickers, holy shit! It is a medium, but they must run small. I bought a new Thomson seat post for it. Has a Chris King headset, and Marzocchi bomber fork. I just replaced the seals.

    Love it!
    Itīs a small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    Itīs a small.
    Definitely a small. I have that exact frame that I rebuilt up for my mom during the shutdown here about a month ago. Still a wonderful bike, I'd ride it, small, medium, or large!
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    Yeah, remeasured it properly. Disappointing, but since it is comfortable, has enough seatpost depth, and handles well on the trail, I guess the size is not so important.

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    Bontrager OR value?

    My wife would like to sell her Bontrager OR mountain bike circa 1992, serial # 0630. I am trying to determine its value. Can anyone provide some insight as to what it might be worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bike_or_hike View Post
    My wife would like to sell her Bontrager OR mountain bike circa 1992, serial # 0630. I am trying to determine its value. Can anyone provide some insight as to what it might be worth?

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    Late model Racelite.

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