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    That's one of the cleanest pre-96 Bontys I've ever seen!

    The decals are for the OR, however. Yours should have the panels with diagonal ends and don't say "OR" on the top panel.
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    Ti-Lite

    What a great thread! Here are a couple pics of my Bontrager.
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    Hmmmmm,
    I just bought this bicycle from the original purchaser, he bought it new in 1997 from the dealer sticker on the seat tube....dealer told him it was a limited production 1997 model, a trek rep told me it was a 1996...

    He never rode the bike, it will probably never get ridden either....waaaaay to small for me. anyone want to trade, I ride a large.

    Do any of these frames have serial #'s mine has no markings anywhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude
    That's one of the cleanest pre-96 Bontys I've ever seen!

    The decals are for the OR, however. Yours should have the panels with diagonal ends and don't say "OR" on the top panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d-ray
    What a great thread! Here are a couple pics of my Bontrager.
    Gawd that's nice. How do you like the Vicious fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride2Suffer
    Hmmmmm,
    I just bought this bicycle from the original purchaser, he bought it new in 1997 from the dealer sticker on the seat tube....dealer told him it was a limited production 1997 model, a trek rep told me it was a 1996...

    He never rode the bike, it will probably never get ridden either....waaaaay to small for me. anyone want to trade, I ride a large.

    Do any of these frames have serial #'s mine has no markings anywhere.

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    That's a pre-1993 frame -- note the semi-horizontal rear dropouts and the long gussets at the head tube. It may very well be a teeny OR frame, predating the Race/RaceLite, or it might be some sort of overlap between the two models. Looks like the DT bottle cage mounts are brazed on, not Rivnuts? Ditto on the rear brake cable stop. Hard to tell from the photos, though.

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    Pre 93 ?? that is bizarre, I will call the guy I bought it from for more information.

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    ... yes, I'll 2nd this, looks like a mix of pre 93 (overly long monostay not capped like early or's 90/91, dropouts) and 92 - 94 details (seatstays, front triangle, gussets).

    but 96 never, except mr. sadoff built it from the leftovers

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    Yep. Seems to share both OR and Race/Race Lite features, but is certainly pre-95:

    Rear cable stop - Race/Race Lite
    Rear drop out - OR
    Seat stay/rear drop out junction - Race/Race Lite
    Mono stay - OR
    Chain stay gussttes - Race/Race Lite
    Headtube gussetts - OR
    Top tube cable guides - Race/Race Lite

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    I just bought this because I put in an offer, on a whim, and the guy accepted it. Whoops. And I was about to bid on a Yeti ARC, but I got this instead.

    Now I'm feeling some regret, because I know little about MTB racing other than I want to do it. Cat. 3 in CX and road, but I'm looking for something to do offroad before CX season starts and because I don't like crits.

    Also, was the price I paid fair for what I get? Or did I get hosed? I'm pretty sure I could sell the bike locally for what I paid for it, but I like being reassured that I just didn't blow a wad of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Who


    I just bought this because I put in an offer, on a whim, and the guy accepted it. Whoops. And I was about to bid on a Yeti ARC, but I got this instead.

    Now I'm feeling some regret, because I know little about MTB racing other than I want to do it. Cat. 3 in CX and road, but I'm looking for something to do offroad before CX season starts and because I don't like crits.

    Also, was the price I paid fair for what I get? Or did I get hosed? I'm pretty sure I could sell the bike locally for what I paid for it, but I like being reassured that I just didn't blow a wad of money.
    IMHO, that frame is worth $250-350, and that fork might be worth $100 since it's got a hard-to-find 1" steerer. I usually assume a used wheelset is worth around $100, but the auction says "Wheels : TNT hubs with Mavic MA 40" -- I don't know anything about those hubs, but if the rims are Bontrager cut-down MA40s (did Mavic make those in a 559 size?) they might be worth more from a vintage standpoint. The rest of the parts seem typical/average. It looks like a pretty clean bike, regardless. If you're going to race it, it might be tough to find replacement parts for that fork...I think Answer stopped supporting that model years ago..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimgskoop
    IMHO, that frame is worth $250-350, and that fork might be worth $100 since it's got a hard-to-find 1" steerer. I usually assume a used wheelset is worth around $100, but the auction says "Wheels : TNT hubs with Mavic MA 40" -- I don't know anything about those hubs, but if the rims are Bontrager cut-down MA40s (did Mavic make those in a 559 size?) they might be worth more from a vintage standpoint. The rest of the parts seem typical/average. It looks like a pretty clean bike, regardless. If you're going to race it, it might be tough to find replacement parts for that fork...I think Answer stopped supporting that model years ago..
    Agree with those numbers.

    Those don't look to be roll downs - decals still present (based on auction pics) They are factory Ma40's.

    Set the sag on the fork, make sure it works.

    Then forget the remorse.

    Ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Who
    Oh, and if you decide you don't like it, I'd be happy to take that frame off your hands. I've got a blue Z2 Bomber fork that'd match that frame nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOrange
    Then forget the remorse.

    Ride.
    Yeah, no sh!t. That's a great little bike, both nimble and steady at speed. You'll love it. And it will last decades with proper care.
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    nice....I made that guy 2 offers on the bike, not far from your buy price. The bike is worth whatever someone will pay, you made an offer and won,,,,,be happy and ride an awesome classic bonty bike.

    I wanted it to hang on the wall of fame....to each his own.
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    I bought a NOS race frame a while back, complete with Bomber fork...a whim also, but I always wanted one, now it's my first choice to ride these days.

    I don't think about the price, knowing it's unique, and I love the way it rides. You'll be happy with it.

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    94 Race

    Bar/Stem Combo:


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    Bike: 94 Race - just wish the prior owner hadn't ground off the rear canti hanger
    WTB: Bontrager Comp Fork & Syncros metal top cap

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    Stolen Bike Alert!

    Here's one to keep an eye out for -- looks like a VERY early KB custom?

    https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/1120370363.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimgskoop
    Stolen Bike Alert!

    Here's one to keep an eye out for -- looks like a VERY early KB custom?

    Nice picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Nice picture.
    WTF?
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    What have I got myself into!

    I picked up a Race lite OS yesterday. I finished putting it back together today and took some pics so I could sell it. After looking through this thread I think I should at least give it a test ride before letting it go. But now I'm afraid that I won't want to sell. I'm running out of space!


    I just listed it in the Vintage section of the MTBR website.
    Please let me know if this considered spam, I don't want to break any rules.
    Also let me know if the price is out of line, I had to put something down!
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    now we're talking. why would you want to sell now that you have it all dialed in??

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    I'm thinking the frame might be too small for my liking. I'm 6"0" and it's a medium frame. When I was 20 it might have suited my style but I'm 50 now and like the cush of a large (19) frame. We'll see, if it was Orange I would probably keep it anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    WTF?
    I was thinking the same thing. Some people don't take glamour shots of their bikes so when they get stolen, they work with whatever they have. Yeah, sh!tty shot and all but alteast I'll recognize it if I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    WTF?

    I took the picture.
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    and???

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I took the picture.

    I'm not sure why we needed that info ,,,,, just curious??,
    :)

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    My bad.
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    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    I'm not sure why we needed that info ,,,,, just curious??,
    Person A posts picture and says here is my stolen bike. Person B says WTF re the picture. Person C says dude, pictures you take of your bike aren't always the best. Person B says, yea, but *I* took that picture. Clearer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Person A posts picture and says here is my stolen bike. Person B says WTF re the picture. Person C says dude, pictures you take of your bike aren't always the best. Person B says, yea, but *I* took that picture. Clearer?
    that doesn't really seem to celar it up but, Jeff and I thought Rumphy was bashing the guy who got his bike stolen for posting a crap photo when he was actually making fun of his own photo of the other guy's bike.

    Incidently, I don't think the bike belongs to jimgskoop, he just pulled it off a CL add, if you find it and need to contact the owner, go through the CL link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
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    wow, catty today aren't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    wow, catty today aren't we?

    I should have put a smile with that. No cattyness here. It was directed at the whole confusion in general, which mainly stemmed from the confused post questioning Rumpfy's post. I was a good boy and refrained in the earlier stages of confusion until I could no longer resist. Just enjoying the entertainment the interweb can provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    I'm not sure why we needed that info ,,,,, just curious??,
    Hey here's an idea. Don't worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    that doesn't really seem to celar it up but, Jeff and I thought Rumphy was bashing the guy who got his bike stolen for posting a crap photo when he was actually making fun of his own photo of the other guy's bike.

    Incidently, I don't think the bike belongs to jimgskoop, he just pulled it off a CL add, if you find it and need to contact the owner, go through the CL link.
    Yeah, I was making fun of my own crappy photo...incidentally taken just days before it was stolen.

    I contacted the CL poster to say that I had seen it (where and when)...but that was before it was stolen....and no, I was not the person who stole the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Hey here's an idea. Don't worry about it.
    curiousity is a world away from worry....

    your answer to boy named SSue explained it, I just wondered why you claimed the picture.
    :)

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    Cool bike. Sad to see it go.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    I'm a few inches taller than you goomicoo, I wish it was a large. I would buy it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaEroom
    I'm a few inches taller than you goomicoo, I wish it was a large. I would buy it right now.
    Judging from the picture, it IS a large and not a medium. You should buy it right away.

    Damn, I luv matchmaking...

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    Wait wait wait. How can you determine that? am I being f'ed with here?

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    Does anyone out there know who has knowledge of serial numbers for Bontrager frames? Is there already some kind of semblance of info on the subject or should I start by contacting Bontrager themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaEroom
    Does anyone out there know who has knowledge of serial numbers for Bontrager frames? Is there already some kind of semblance of info on the subject or should I start by contacting Bontrager themselves?

    There is little rhyme or reason to Bonty serial numbers. You're better off picking out frame details.

    Trektrager will most likely be of zero help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaEroom
    Does anyone out there know who has knowledge of serial numbers for Bontrager frames? Is there already some kind of semblance of info on the subject or should I start by contacting Bontrager themselves?
    It depends....

    For early bikes (which happen to have serial numbers), yes, there is is meaning.

    During the "glory years" (1992 to 1997), the serial numbers mean nothing. These are 4 digit numbers on the dropouts. They should be unique, but completely random.

    Some of the out-sourced frames have meaning too. The Ti Lites have serial numbers include frame size and build order. The Privateer frames likely do to (but I've not paid attention to them).
    Each bicycle owned exponentially increases the probability that none is working correctly.

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    I'm trying to find out what size seatpost collar I need for a 1992 Race Lite. My guess from measuring the current one is 30.0 but I want to make sure before I buy one. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmelani
    I'm trying to find out what size seatpost collar I need for a 1992 Race Lite. My guess from measuring the current one is 30.0 but I want to make sure before I buy one. Thanks.
    26.8.

    I think all Bontragers other than the ti-lites and privateers were 26.8. The ti-lites are 27.0 and I think the privateers are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    26.8.

    I think all Bontragers other than the ti-lites and privateers were 26.8. The ti-lites are 27.0 and I think the privateers are the same.
    26.8 is the size of the seatpost. I'm trying to find out the size of the collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmelani
    26.8 is the size of the seatpost. I'm trying to find out the size of the collar.
    Ah crap, that is indeed what you asked. I am now deserving of a face palm.

    I just pulled the coller off my race from around the same time and measured it as a 29. I can't say whether the races and racelites had different coller sizes though. Sorry.

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    My recollection is that I needed a 28.6 for my OR. I think I used a Ritchey Logic clamp.

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    +1 - Yep 28.6mm is correct.

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    28.6 it is. Thanks all.

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    I believe what I have is a '92 Race Lite. Purchased the frame new from a LBS in the Spring of '93. Frame was hanging for a while before I pulled the trigger. Year ago upgraded a few things including wheels and a front Disk Brake. It's already changed form the pics (bar ends gone, new grip shift boots, new grips) and considering making it a 1x9 or just selling it.

    Here is my Race Lite...








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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepnut22
    I believe what I have is a '92 Race Lite. Purchased the frame new from a LBS in the Spring of '93. Frame was hanging for a while before I pulled the trigger. Year ago upgraded a few things including wheels and a front Disk Brake. It's already changed form the pics (bar ends gone, new grip shift boots, new grips) and considering making it a 1x9 or just selling it.

    Here is my Race Lite...







    That's an odd assortment of parts and colors but I dig the bike! If it were mine i'd ditch the disc front and put together a more cohesive color combo...but that's just me!

    Glad you're having fun w/ 'er!
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    After months of lurking, I've finally gotten the kinks out of/put into my '96 Race. It's a xxl and I'm 6'8", so that's why it likes like a Dahon folder. (I believe it's a '96 anyway. That's when I ordered the frame from Bicycle Renaissance in NYC.) I hope to have Walt build a fork for it before the cyclocross season starts, then I'm going to race it poorly. (The folks at Marzocchi were kind enough to put a 1" steerer on the present fork, but it's kind of overkill.)
    I know some of you probably blew your coffee all over your monitors when you saw it, and for that I apologize, but I love riding this freaking thing.
    Does anyone have any suggestions for a painter in the Pasadena area, and maybe a source for stickers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpee
    That's an odd assortment of parts and colors but I dig the bike! If it were mine i'd ditch the disc front and put together a more cohesive color combo...but that's just me!

    Glad you're having fun w/ 'er!
    Actually I am trying to figure out what I want to do with it. I don't ride it much as I have been riding my dual squishy mostly as of late.

    1x9?
    1x1?
    Cyclo?
    Sell it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    Incidently, I don't think the bike belongs to jimgskoop, he just pulled it off a CL add, if you find it and need to contact the owner, go through the CL link.
    Yup. Not my bike, I saw the listing on the local CL. Just trying to help a fellow Bonty owner out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datasurfer
    Judging from the picture, it IS a large and not a medium. You should buy it right away.
    Mediums (17") have a very sloped top tube.



    Larges (19") less so.




    XLs (21") have a level top tube.

    (although this is an OR frame, which is slightly different admittedly)

    Smalls (15") have even more TT slop, and very little wishbone on the mono seat stays.


    The TT and seat stays on the XS frame (12") form a straight line from the head tube to the dropouts...mixte-like.
    (no photos found)

    And then of course the XXL is just HUGE!
    (photo borrowed from above, sorry)

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    sorry, but that's size L, rigid geo. I know, 'cause she's mine
    tt 23.2" rigid geo vs 23.6" xl rigid.

    ciao
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    Quote Originally Posted by floibex


    sorry, but that's size L, rigid geo. I know, 'cause she's mine
    tt 23.2" rigid geo vs 23.6" xl rigid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floibex


    sorry, but that's size L, rigid geo. I know, 'cause she's mine
    tt 23.2" rigid geo vs 23.6" xl rigid.

    ciao
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    my bad. thanks for the correction!

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    hello

    Just a quick hello,

    Hopefully I've managed to up load a picture of my '94 Bontrager Race.

    Medium
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    Very Original

    It needs re-painting, but the question is where could i get new decals?

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    New to the Forum, Need Stickers

    Just a quick hello,

    Hopefully I've managed to up load a picture of my '94 Bontrager Race.

    Medium
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    Lots of other tasty bits.

    Very Original

    It needs re-painting, but the question is where could i get new decals?

    thanks in advance
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    [QUOTE=rufiboy]

    It needs re-painting, but the question is where could i get new decals?


    There is a guy in the UK who manufactures old decals, Bontrager frame stickers being one of many. His email is [email protected] I found him when I joined the retrobike.co.uk forum a while back. Relatively inexpensive, you can't tell them from the originals. I think he said it was about 33 British pounds shipped to the U.S. but don't quote me on it.

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    Thanks so much.

    I live in sunny Stockport.

    JUst I've been out on my bike recently, (not been used for years. And in my state of poor fitness I can still smoke the people I've been out with on the full suspension bikes.

    Going to stay retro and annoy them.

    cheers

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    I'm probably going to get blasted for blasphemy by posting this, but due to budget restaints I couldn't afford to rebuild back to original completely... I was given a 96 privateer comp from neighbor that had it collecting dust in his garage. The frame had a bit of rust on it and finding the right decals proved impossible for me at the time. So... I converted it a bit. Here's pics of original frame and my re-build of it.
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/videogirl32/3611639510/" title="original-frame by videogirl32, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2450/3611639510_33ddb293cb.jpg" width="386" height="500" alt="original-frame" /></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/videogirl32/3611640440/" title="fullbike by videogirl32, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3663/3611640440_1f3591c719.jpg" width="432" height="324" alt="fullbike" /></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/videogirl32/3611640764/" title="bikemed by videogirl32, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3611640764_b2a528248d.jpg" width="432" height="324" alt="bikemed" /></a>

    I do have all the original parts for it that I didn't use (most were put back on) and will continue to seek out the one that are missing to turn it back to original status. Biggest troubles were finding the sticker set. So for now it's my get off the sofa and ride when it's too wet to hit the local trails bike.
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    'Real' Bontrager

    This guy is selling a 'Real Bontrager', and I quote:

    You are bidding on a piece of cycling history!


    I have one of the last REAL hard tail Bontrager Mountain bikes ever made.
    purchased as NOS in 2004


    This is the second person who tried to sell a Privateer as a Race or Racelite on Fleabay this week. It's getting old. The first guy has edited his listing. Come on, 'bought new old stock in 2004'? Ridiculous.

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    just finished my build,some old school parts and some new....
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    What a beauty!

    Sweet touch on the cables. The greywall XC Pros really work. The black big ring on the crank is sweet. Blue Bomber decals and bottle tips are a sneaky detail. I can tell this one will be ridden seriously; it is a better bike than when it was produced. Just try to find a modern HT that comes close to this one.

    Where did you get the set of decals?
    Is there a before picture?
    Which WTB saddle is this with the drop nose? It makes the bike an even better climber.

    Very nice.

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    Spotted this old Bonty outside the coffee house. The owner says it's one of the last hand-built Bontys, but I will defer on that claim to anyone more expert on the subject than I am. This isn't a "collector" bike, it's the guy's main ride. The saddle says it all.






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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebarney
    just finished my build,some old school parts and some new....
    Did that rabbit get away??? And what the *@#& was that chasing it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    Spotted this old Bonty outside the coffee house. The owner says it's one of the last hand-built Bontys, but I will defer on that claim to anyone more expert on the subject than I am. This isn't a "collector" bike, it's the guy's main ride. The saddle says it all.
    It looks to have an 1&1/8" headtube which would make it a '98 privateer. He is totally correct in saying it was one of the last handbuilt bontys. The Santa Cruz operation was shut down a year or two earlier and the '98s were the last of the Trek-made ones.

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    Ok, I'm guessing this is the oldest Bonty in this thread. Sorry for the terrible pic. I'll dig it out of the basement and clean it up later. It's a Columbus SL cross bike, probably built in 1985 or so for Dave Mac. I've had it since 1987.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Chinaski
    Ok, I'm guessing this is the oldest Bonty in this thread. Sorry for the terrible pic. I'll dig it out of the basement and clean it up later. It's a Columbus SL cross bike, probably built in 1985 or so for Dave Mac. I've had it since 1987.

    Henry that's awesome. Thanks for posting up the pic. I look forward to more when you have the chance. Really pretty color blue that you don't see on the later models. Is she still a rider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Chinaski
    Ok, I'm guessing this is the oldest Bonty in this thread. Sorry for the terrible pic. I'll dig it out of the basement and clean it up later. It's a Columbus SL cross bike, probably built in 1985 or so for Dave Mac. I've had it since 1987.


    Awesome! Please consider adding your Flickr photo to the Vintage Bontrager Cycles Group!

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    Quote Originally Posted by datasurfer
    Henry that's awesome. Thanks for posting up the pic. I look forward to more when you have the chance. Really pretty color blue that you don't see on the later models. Is she still a rider?
    It was repainted by Todd Pugsley (sp?) in 1986 or 1987. I think before that it was a paler blue. Fillet Brazed on this forum now owns the bike's twin, which was owned by my friend Dave Hagen for many years. Dave Mac, Hagen, Todd and I all worked at Palo Alto Bikes in the 80s.

    The bike served as my dirt/trail til the early 90s when I finally broke down and bought a mtb (a Bonty Race). Then it was my commuter and rain bike for a while. Haven't ridden it in about five years, though it needs nothing, really. I just need to yank off those fenders and put on proper wheels and tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimgskoop
    Awesome! Please consider adding your Flickr photo to the Vintage Bontrager Cycles Group!
    Done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Chinaski
    Done!
    you are the king of VRC today!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Chinaski
    Ok, I'm guessing this is the oldest Bonty in this thread. Sorry for the terrible pic. I'll dig it out of the basement and clean it up later. It's a Columbus SL cross bike, probably built in 1985 or so for Dave Mac. I've had it since 1987.


    cool. thanks for the PM. hard to tell for sure from that angle, but your frame looks to be bigger than mine... Yeah, mine is original and is a little more turquoise-ish. I have it in the "to be PCed" pile. Hopefully soon! Can't wait to see more of yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Can't wait to see more of yours.
    +1

    the lugs at the head tube look to be different from the ones on mine or FB's, need more pics to be certain

    side shot please!
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    I dunno, does it look like this one?



    John Loomis is on the left. The story on the shirt is that his race jersey violated some rule, and the only other shirt he had was a dress shirt in his car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repack Rider
    I dunno, does it look like this one?



    John Loomis is on the left. The story on the shirt is that his race jersey violated some rule, and the only other shirt he had was a dress shirt in his car.

    that's the one I've got. Looks like Dave Mac lapping the field. There are some more shots from that race in an old Cyclist magazine and if I recall, the pictures were taken by you, CK...

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    Again, sorry for the bad shots. I can't remember which frame got built first. It was probably 1985 when I first met Dave Mac. He was racing for Avocet (I think Miyata bikes at one point) and he was racing cross on Vitus cross frames if I remember right. I think he was already done with the Bonty frames at that point.

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    neat lug work on that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    hard to tell for sure from that angle, but yours looks to be bigger than mine... Can't wait to see more of yours.
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    Finally

    I finally moved the parts over from the Race (top) to the Race Lite (bottom)...



    Got a spare frame now...

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    '96 Racelite

    I posted this already but she belongs in this thread.
    The only things from the original bike besides the frame are the seatpost binder and the anti-chainsuck device. As such she is not restored but revived. She'll see a ton of use.
    24 lbs. 4 oz.

    Still working out the kinks in shifting. I made a guess about stem length as I went from Mary Bars to the Salsa Pro Moto 17š sweep. Wrong! I am going to lengthen the stem. I'm really looking forward to hammering on this bike again.
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    Wow, that paint looks dynamite. Nice.

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    Yeah, the color looks great.
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    So, if I may ask, who painted it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berkeley Mike
    I posted this already but she belongs in this thread.
    The only things from the original bike besides the frame are the seatpost binder and the anti-chainsuck device. As such she is not restored but revived. She'll see a ton of use.
    24 lbs. 4 oz.

    Still working out the kinks in shifting. I made a guess about stem length as I went from Mary Bars to the Salsa Pro Moto 17š sweep. Wrong! I am going to lengthen the stem. I'm really looking forward to hammering on this bike again.

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    Probably sacrilege but here's my 93 Race.

    Incidentally, does the "left open" wishbone help pinpoint the year? My frame has this and the semi-horizontal dropouts but the cable guides are not riveted on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack lantern
    Probably sacrilege but here's my 93 Race.

    Incidentally, does the "left open" wishbone help pinpoint the year? My frame has this and the semi-horizontal dropouts but the cable guides are not riveted on.

    I like this bike a lot.

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    I've got a blue frame with these same qualities. If you figure out the year, it should apply to mine too.

    Quote Originally Posted by jack lantern
    Probably sacrilege but here's my 93 Race.

    Incidentally, does the "left open" wishbone help pinpoint the year? My frame has this and the semi-horizontal dropouts but the cable guides are not riveted on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenjihara
    I've got a blue frame with these same qualities. If you figure out the year, it should apply to mine too.
    The '91 frames that I have seen have the open wishbone. The '93 and later frames are closed. I'd guess that the frame in question was from somewhere in between - '92 or early '93.
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    My latest Bontrager

    I recently found this Road Lite frame on eBay, and picked it for a winter bike. It looks like a first production year (1995) frame, except that it does not have the "wishbone" mono-stay. Otherwise the gussets, frame measurements, and braze-ons are the same as a '95. I guess it was made before the wishbones arrived, or on a day when they were misplaced.

    I owned a '97 Road Lite from 2001 to 2003 and put a couple of thousand miles on it, so I kind of knew what to expect from the ride. Previously I owned an XL frame, and this is a large, which I think fits me a bit better. It's built up with components that I had lying around - I did have to buy a new stem, a new King bearing cap to convert the headset from threadless, and few minor odds and ends.

    Today I took it out on it's maiden voyage, and did a nice hilly 35 mile loop. After a few minor positioning tweaks, I should have a nice winter bike.

    <img src="https://www.eandsweb.com/bikes/pics/bontrager_roadlite/IMG_1055_md.JPG" height="600" width="800">

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    Max, the Yellow '96 Racelite

    was powder coated by Maas Brother of Livermore California. I wanted a certain yellow but it kept orange-peeling and they did not know what to do. I went over there and picked out this color when I saw what it did in the sun.

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    looks like the perfect Halloween bike!

    [QUOTE=laffeaux]I recently found this Road Lite frame on eBay, and picked it for a winter bike. It looks like a first production year (1995) frame, except that it does not have the "wishbone" mono-stay. Otherwise the gussets, frame measurements, and braze-ons are the same as a '95. I guess it was made before the wishbones arrived, or on a day when they were misplaced.

    I owned a '97 Road Lite from 2001 to 2003 and put a couple of thousand miles on it, so I kind of knew what to expect from the ride. Previously I owned an XL frame, and this is a large, which I think fits me a bit better. It's built up with components that I had lying around - I did have to buy a new stem, a new King bearing cap to convert the headset from threadless, and few minor odds and ends.

    Today I took it out on it's maiden voyage, and did a nice hilly 35 mile loop. After a few minor positioning tweaks, I should have a nice winter bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I recently found this Road Lite frame on eBay, and picked it for a winter bike. It looks like a first production year (1995) frame, except that it does not have the "wishbone" mono-stay. Otherwise the gussets, frame measurements, and braze-ons are the same as a '95. I guess it was made before the wishbones arrived, or on a day when they were misplaced.
    I interviewed there in '94, and KB showed me the wishbone for the Road Lite's mono-stay (something similar to this), so they definitely did have 'em then.

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    still waiting to be built


    very cool road lite btw
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    yuh

    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    very cool road lite btw
    yuh good colour

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    I just purchased a IRD fork for a 1995 race frame. The fork was on another Bontrager that was for sale. It has a 1" steer and is straight legged. Does anyone have any info on these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtis
    I just purchased a IRD fork for a 1995 race frame. The fork was on another Bontrager that was for sale. It has a 1" steer and is straight legged. Does anyone have any info on these?
    A picture is worth a thousand words...

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    IRD Fork

    This just came in the mail.....not sure if it is going to be the right length for a 1994-95 Race frame. Does anyone have any info on these???http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1257550058 http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1257550253
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtis
    This just came in the mail.....not sure if it is going to be the right length for a 1994-95 Race frame. Does anyone have any info on these???http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1257550058 http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1257550253

    What is the axle-to-crown-race-seat measurement? Should be something around 415mm for a mid-1990s suspension-adjusted frame (~65mm travel suspension fork).

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    Looks like it is 394mm. I'm guessing this isn't going to work too great.

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    Spotted the elusive CX at a recent Massachusetts Cyclo-Cross race! What a beauty. How many of these were made?








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    Threaded Steer length

    Does anyone know what is the longest length threaded steer Bontrager made. I have a XL Race with a head tube of 5.5 (140mm) inches and headset stack height of 40mm. The longest I've seen is 6 1/8, but need something about 7 inches, unless I'm wrong about my length calc requirement.
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    Selling A Perect 1996 Race Lite - Medium - Updated To 1 1/8 Head Tube

    I have a perfect condition red medium race lite, 1996.
    it was a super low mile, perfect condition bike, when I asked Paul Sadoff (rocklobster, santa cruz, nontrager) to revise the bike for me...who else would you go to for something like this? I wanted a 1 1/8 head tube so I could run modern forks. During that process I also had mib build me a fully custom-sized bike which mimicked the geometry, feel, etc of the race lite. The custom bike fits me better and I like to run discs, so the bonty was built back up but never saw dirt. I rode it up and down the street a few times and then pulled it apart, covered it in bubble wrap, and packed it away. I'm having one of those times in my life where I really don't want 'extra' stuff around...a couple of my guitars are going, a couple bikes...I want to ride what I have and cut out the 'collecting.'
    So, yes its hard to part with but I'm willing to. No, it's not going on ebay, CL, or whatever, though I've sold 100's of items on mtbr with all positive feedback...it's only being mentioned here for what I believe are true enthusiasts.
    if you're interested, contact me via email at [email protected]

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    Swapping steer tubes?

    I have a Bontrager Race and a Tange Switchblade. Both have 1" steer. The Bonty's steer is too short for the frame I just bought, but the Tange is long enough. Can I just swap them?
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    As long as the Tange steerer has a groove around the bottom for the circlip (or whatever it's called) it should work fine. I actually might have a couple of steerers that are long enough, but I'll have to check them tomorrow to be sure. Stand by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Anomie-
    I actually might have a couple of steerers that are long enough, but I'll have to check them tomorrow to be sure. Stand by.
    Cool thanks!
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    Check your PM's Justin.

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    Newest Bontrager Project

    Frame - Pics are from ebay auction


    Rear drops


    Was going to use this fork, but the steer is too short - have a line on another




    Plan - strip and re-spray. Build with M732 kit. except for brakes - I picked up some Arch Supreme's at a swap meet and am going to use some Altek levers.
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    Can anyone help with a Bontrager serial number? I think it is a 95 Race, but can't be sure juts yet. The serial number is 100195. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskare
    Can anyone help with a Bontrager serial number? I think it is a 95 Race, but can't be sure juts yet. The serial number is 100195. Thanks!
    need pics
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    Which brakes to use

    Which brakes should I use on my Race? Avid Arch Supreme with Altek levers, or Shimano XT m-737 Canti's with M733 levers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjustin007
    Which brakes should I use on my Race? Avid Arch Supreme with Altek levers, or Shimano XT m-737 Canti's with M733 levers?

    If the race is '95 or older I would go the m-737/m733 route as that is period correct. Save the arch supremes and altek levers for something 97 or newer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjustin007
    Which brakes should I use on my Race? Avid Arch Supreme with Altek levers, or Shimano XT m-737 Canti's with M733 levers?
    It's up to you. The XT components are more in-line with the frame's age, but the Avids likely offer better stopping power.
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    Bontrager = Love

    She has showed me the road ahead. Rolled me in and out of the wilderness unharmed. Held no grudges when I had to abandon her to seek safety. She has witnessed transformation. Fore the frown turnith to a smile. She has seen others like her come and go. Now it is time for her to support flip flop's and perhaps a baby seat. She was built with loving care by the "hands" of man and will get the respect she deserves as the hand of man become less important. For she is a symbol. A symbol of something far more greater then the machine. BONTRAGER = LOVE

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    1998 Bontrager Catalog

    In a moment of OCD I scanned my 1998 Bontrager catalog, all 48 pages. Thought I would share as I can't find it online other than the copy that is in German. Anyone know where I should submit/give the PDF file? I know it is a bit modern for many, but may hold some good info some.
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    Scored a '97 Privateer Comp recently. It's 17" from center of BB to center of top tube. Someone told me that this is a large according to Bontrager method of sizing things. Is this correct? Photo:


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    I have a '96 Privateer S that has been stripped and sitting in my parents' attic for the last few years. I had slightly outgrown the bike (size medium) and was uncomfortable with the amount of my body weight that was over the front wheel.

    This thread has encouraged me to revive the ride. My plan is to strip and clean the frame and repaint it bone white. This will be a retro-mod with some original parts but many new parts. My main goal is to keep it clean and simple.

    The original fork (RockShox Indy) is dead. I intend to replace it with a rigid fork (was thinking the Kona P2). I would like to find a fork that is long enough to raise the front of the bike (rotating it around the rear wheel). I am hoping this would shift my body weight back slightly and slightly mellow out the steering (it was a little too twitchy as stock). I would like opinions on the fork option and what crown-to-axle length would best suit my needs.

    I do not want to radically alter the original geo, just mellow it out a little. Thanks for the advice and thanks for sharing all of those beautiful bikes!

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    Hi,
    First of all, first post here - greetings to all!

    Moving right along, has anyone here done (or had done) a steerer tube swap on a Comp fork? I'm contemplating replacing the 1" threaded steerer in mine and putting in a threadless steerer.

    Back in the day I replaced a couple of steerers on Bonty forks and Tange forks. I remember the method well enough. (Loosen bolts, remove snap ring, etc.) I have a fleeting memory of removing the crown race seat using a rubber mallet and the crown as a jig to hold it in place while doing so. But that was back when one could just pick up the phone and order a new one if the one you're working with gets bunged up. Times have changed, now that number rings in either Taiwan or Wisconsin, not sure which.

    I'm just going to order a length of 1" steerer from one of the tubing supply places online.

    Does anyone have a source for new crown race seats for these? It's not a complex piece of machining, but if you walk into a machine shop and ask for a one off it could cost quite a bit of money I'd imagine. Of course, if anyone were to have a threadless steerer ready to go ...

    (Pics of bikes soon to come. I've got a '93 Racelite, and a '92 Salsa La Raza, along with an interesting package currently in the mail to me.)

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    The only hard part about your steerer tube swap scenario is the new threadless tube won't have the groove on the bottom for the snap ring. That snap ring keeps the steerer tube from pulling up thru the crown. I'm sure if the crown bolts were torqued down correctly this would almost never happen but that's not good enough for me personally. I like me teeth where they are. My solution was this: I cut the steerer tube off a 1" threadless fork and made my cut in the middle of the crown race seat. What that left me with was a small 26.4mm lip at the bottom of the steerer tube which countersunk in the bottom of the crown nicely. Not an easy cut to make but well worth the piece of mind IMO.

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    Hey Jak,

    Welcome to the list. Your procedure for replacing the steerer on a Bontrager fork is exactly the procedure the same as I use currently. Each time it is performed, it seems to deteriorate the the seat just a little bit more. I have a source for the actual replacement threaded steerers, but replacement seats have proved elusive.

    Please post the pics ASAP. I have a 1997 La Raza still in need or a resto. Would love to see a finished product.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jak0zilla
    Hi,
    First of all, first post here - greetings to all!

    Moving right along, has anyone here done (or had done) a steerer tube swap on a Comp fork? I'm contemplating replacing the 1" threaded steerer in mine and putting in a threadless steerer.

    Back in the day I replaced a couple of steerers on Bonty forks and Tange forks. I remember the method well enough. (Loosen bolts, remove snap ring, etc.) I have a fleeting memory of removing the crown race seat using a rubber mallet and the crown as a jig to hold it in place while doing so. But that was back when one could just pick up the phone and order a new one if the one you're working with gets bunged up. Times have changed, now that number rings in either Taiwan or Wisconsin, not sure which.

    I'm just going to order a length of 1" steerer from one of the tubing supply places online.

    Does anyone have a source for new crown race seats for these? It's not a complex piece of machining, but if you walk into a machine shop and ask for a one off it could cost quite a bit of money I'd imagine. Of course, if anyone were to have a threadless steerer ready to go ...

    (Pics of bikes soon to come. I've got a '93 Racelite, and a '92 Salsa La Raza, along with an interesting package currently in the mail to me.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack lantern
    The only hard part about your steerer tube swap scenario is the new threadless tube won't have the groove on the bottom for the snap ring. That snap ring keeps the steerer tube from pulling up thru the crown.
    I was going to just dremel the groove for the snap ring myself. It's in a non-structural bit of the fork, and just keeps the steerer from pulling free if the bolts come loose. I would potentially consider riding the fork without it IF I had the crown bolts torqued to spec. It should be an easy cut, as it just needs to be deep enough to let the snap ring settle into place.

    If it were anywhere else on the steerer than that last 1/8" that sticks out the bottom of the crown I'd not be so casual about it.

    Thx for your reply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by datasurfer
    Hey Jak,

    Please post the pics ASAP. I have a 1997 La Raza still in need or a resto. Would love to see a finished product.
    Will do. Mine is pretty stealth, it's just got a coat of the stock Salsa purple powder coat.

    I groused about the stock SR Prism aluminum fork, so Ross built me a steel fork with a flat crown, Reynolds 531c blades, and a Columbus steerer. My shop had sold about 6 Alacarte's, and Ross and I were "phone buddies" as I was the shop buyer.

    Probably the wrong thread to go on about this ...

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    My '94 Racelite

    To add to the gallery of sweet Bontragers, here's my 1994 Race Lite. It's a mix of XC Pro and other parts, pretty much as I assembled it in 1994.


    (Yes, they put my top tube decal on backwards.)


    Thumbshifters, Salsa, Titec, Eiglehart custom bar-ends.



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    So, here's this thing. I had neither the time nor the inclination to keep it period specific, so only a select few parts could qualify as V, R, or C. I've been using this as a near daily rider, and couldn't pass up the opportunity to adorn this deserving frame with modern tech. The ride quality is impeccable.





    Frame: 1994 Bontrager Race
    Fork: White Brothers Magic 80
    Rims: Bontrager Valiant OSB Ceramic
    Hubs: Bontrager by Chris King
    Quick Release: Bontrager Ti
    Tires: Bontrager Jones XR Tubeless
    Pedals: Shimano PD-M770 Deore XT
    Crank: Truvativ Noir Cash (Green)
    Chainguide: e*thirteen XCX
    Chain: SRAM PC-991 Hollowpin
    Rear Cogs: SRAM PG-990 11-34 Cash (Green)
    Bottom Bracket: Truvativ GXP Team
    Front Derailleur: N/A
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO Cash (Green)
    Shifters: SRAM XO Trigger Cash (Green)
    Handlebars: Bontrager RL Big Sweep Flat
    Bar Ends: Profile SOS Stubby
    Grips: SRAM Locking
    Stem: Thompson Elite X4
    Headset: Chris King Nothreadset
    Brake set: Avid Single Digit Ultimate
    Brake levers: Avid Speed Dial Ultimate
    Saddle: Bontrager FS +10 Comp
    Seat Post: Thompson Elite

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    This frame was sent as a "no fault" replacement. I had previously been on a 1991 RaceLite, with horizontal rear dropouts. When I stood up out of the saddle to climb, about 95% of the time, my rear wheel would slide in the dropouts so that the wheel would skew to the left and the rear tire would smoosh itself onto the inside of the non-drive chainstay. I would have to stop, and recenter my rear wheel.

    I started out with WTB GG hubs, and some sort of light ti skewers. WTB machined some new axle ends for me with serrated steel faces; no dice. I switched to a boat anchor XT skewer; no dice. I switched to a Deore XT rear hub, with steel axle ends; no dice. Bontrager modified some Deore XT axle end nuts to be "grippier"; no dice.

    So finally they met me halfway and gave me a new frame (horizontal dropouts) for $75 plus shipping and return of the old frame.

    I like to think that in some small part, I helped the development of the Race/RaceLite dropouts. I must have been on the phone with WTB 15 times, and Bontrager 20 times to try to get relief. I was just NOT going to ride any other frame.

    (And then I let it sit in my closet for 10 years, but that's another story.)

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    ^^

    jason: so what's the verdict on that white bros fork?

    wish they weren't so expen$ive so i could find out firsthand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
    jason: so what's the verdict on that white bros fork?

    wish they weren't so expen$ive so i could find out firsthand...
    So far, so good. It's absolutely rock solid as far as torsional stiffness and tracking, but I'm still working out the ratio of air pressure to IMV damping. I have a feeling it still needs to break in a bit, as well.

    BTW: I can't heap enough praise upon MRP/White Brothers' customer service. They've got great folks over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt
    jason: so what's the verdict on that white bros fork?

    wish they weren't so expen$ive so i could find out firsthand...
    Speaking of ride reports on unusual forks, were you the guy who 69ered a ti-lite? How did that one turn out?

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    Where do you guys recommend I get my frame painted? I live in southern Minnesota, but I can surely ship it wherever. I have a Privateer I want to have painted nice and build up, a late model so it has a 1 1/8" headtube so I never have to beat my head against the wall looking for a fork again (theoretically). Who does good work? I'd rather not get my pants pulled down over the price, but I'm willing to invest if the work is worth it. Decals are of interest as well.

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    Hey everyone,

    I just picked up what I think is a 96 Race. It looks an awful lot like Jak0zilla's (that top tube decal's backwards? Mine's exactly the same way!)

    I was reading above about the switchblade crown and how everyone is switching out steerers. While that is totally informative, I'm also wondering about the legs? When/if the fork legs go, is it just a matter of swapping out the legs? Where can you find replacement legs?

    Thanks!

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    Anyone know the best threaded stem for a race frame? The frame has a set of shocks on it, but I got an old bontrager rigid fork, and I want to bring it back to stock. Some have mentioned problems with the bontrager stems, but does anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks! The frame has the one-piece seat stays, and vertical drop-outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doccutter
    Anyone know the best threaded stem for a race frame? The frame has a set of shocks on it, but I got an old bontrager rigid fork, and I want to bring it back to stock. Some have mentioned problems with the bontrager stems, but does anyone have any ideas for me?
    Use whatever stem works to get you in the correct position. The "stock" stem would have been a Bontrager 1" quill stem. I've owned several of these stems and have never had any issues with them. Salsa Stems are a bit easier to find and also look good on almost any bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doccutter
    The frame has a set of shocks on it, but I got an old bontrager rigid fork, and I want to bring it back to stock.
    you sure about that?

    lets see some pics
    looking for 20-21" P team

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    you sure about that?

    lets see some pics
    OK, fair enough. I'm out of town now, but I'll post when I get home. It seems a bit like a frankenbike right now, it was converted to single speed, then some random parts put on it before I got it. I'm also trying to source a long enough ritchey spindle for the BB, because the one on there now won't allow a 3-ring crank without grinding the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doccutter
    Anyone know the best threaded stem for a race frame?
    It probably would have come with a Bontrager Race or Race Lite stem if it came with a build kit. They pop up on ebay with some regularity, and are not especially expensive.

    I'll second the recommendation for a period appropriate Salsa stem. LOTS of nice bikes were rolling around with those. They are really proper stems in every sense of the word.

    Other than that, just find a stem that fits you that you like! Esthetically I think welded cromoly stems look good on these frames, but so do Ibis Ti stems ...

    If you want a Bontrager Race stem you can PM me. I've got a 130mm(?) in about a 5deg rise, that is in good shape. It's not the fanciest stem, and in fact you can make out the "Hsin Lung" made in Taiwan (to KB's spec) under the powder. But it has the proper logos, and the gusset. It came as part of a 1997 XT build kit from Bontrager. Lemme know if you want pics. I'd trade it for ... something interesting .... but not necessarily your fanciest bit of bling.
    Don't call it a gooseneck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkMail
    It looks an awful lot like Jak0zilla's (that top tube decal's backwards? Mine's exactly the same way!)
    Well ... truth be told ... I think mine *IS* facing the correct direction.

    I have had this memory of the older OR's that were running around my shop, and if I am not AGAIN mistaken, they had the "chainwheel/OR" logo towards the rear. (I'm too lazy to go sift through the pic archive.)

    I kind of thought that because mine was a "no fault" replacement there might be something there to subliminally suggest to any future Bontrager personnel that I was that trouble maker with the hub thing going on. I was on the phone with them over and over again about that rear wheel slippage thing. All polite conversations, but I really felt scandalized that every time to I stood up in the granny gear the rear wheel would "ZZZZZzzzz!" into my left chainstay. Only the constant polishing action of the Smokes kept the inside face of my stay from rusting.

    Maybe I was (and now for sure am) on the edge of too big for the Race Lite, but I was head over heels in adolescent love with them. I figured if I broke it, I'd no-fault it. I'm a careful rider, and have seen 110lb greyhounds who destroy more nice gear in a year than I've done in my entire life ... ! As long as I stay away from carbon saddle rails, and no-name Ti handlebars, I'm just fine! I think spending my formative years on fragile 700c wheels, that I had to repair myself, taught me to go easy on stuff.
    Don't call it a gooseneck.

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    Smile funny you should ask...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    Speaking of ride reports on unusual forks, were you the guy who 69ered a ti-lite? How did that one turn out?
    it worked out really well; i am sold on the big wheel up front... however, i came to realize i'm not so sold on rigid forks.

    so, just finished a (re)makeover saturday-- i had an extra bonty/judy fork w/ rebuilt englund air cartridges just sitting in the basement.
    just had to rattle-can it first, as i've never been a fan of the 'champagne' color (i've got another, original internals, w/ canti brake boss).



    '96 bontrager ti lite:
    • bonty race stem
    • chris king grip nut headset
    • bonty race lite bar
    • bonty race lite bar ends (magnesium)
    • gripshift ESP9.0 shifters (8 spd)
    • real design levers
    • rock shox judy xc w/ total air cartridges (bonty crown)
    • XTR 952 hubs (28 f, 32 r)
    • dt swiss rims (old skool bonty valiants finally gave up)
    • avid arch rival, rear
    • avid single digit 7, front
    • bonty race seatpost
    • bonty race +10 saddle
    • XT compact cranks
    • white industries ti square taper bb
    • race face rings (got a NOS shimano IG 42, but couldn't find a 32 anywhere)
    • panaracer fire XC 2.1 tires
    • XT front der
    • ESP9.0SL rear der
    • XT cassette 11-32
    • oury grips
    • time atac carbon, world championships, pedals
    • jen green limited edition bontrager headbadge


    fun bike which will see a lot of dirt miles to come...
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    Thanks for all the help, folks, jak0, I'm not sure I have anything good enough to trade, but I'll look through my bins when I get home. I have another question while I'm thinking about it, as I mentioned, it arrive half-converted to single Speed. The BB spindle is too short for my cranks (I have a specialized set, and a Suntour XC pro). What was the original spindle size for the bontragers? Right now I put in a sealed shimano BB, 122.5 I believe, and it's still too short. I'd prefer the user-servicable ritchey BB, I have the cups, but I can't find a 127 spindle. Any ideas?

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    Finished up the Newest Bonti in my collection -
    1991 Race - Semi Horizontal Drops
    Race Fork with Semi Horizontal Drops
    Race Face/ Bontrager 1 piece Bar/Stem Combo
    XT 732 build kit
    RM-20 rims
    Avid Arch Supreme Brakes
    Altek Levers
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    Quote Originally Posted by doccutter
    The BB spindle is too short for my cranks (I have a specialized set, and a Suntour XC pro). What was the original spindle size for the bontragers? Right now I put in a sealed shimano BB, 122.5 I believe, and it's still too short. I'd prefer the user-servicable ritchey BB, I have the cups, but I can't find a 127 spindle. Any ideas?
    XC Pro (non-MicroDrive) was 122.5mm, but the chainline is probably different than your sealed Shimano unit. I've used White Industry BB's in bikes that I had concerns about chainline with. They allow you to put the spindle where you need it, and then lock it in place. (The older ones more so than the new ones, but they all are great in that respect.) There are a ton of BB's out there that will give you an adjustable chainline.

    You could potentially order a White, or Phil BB with a few extra mm of spindle on it.

    Specialized had a bunch of different cranks made for them. Usually the nice ones were cold forged by Sugino in Japan. Nice stuff. Post a pic, and I'm sure someone could make an educated guess about spindle length.
    Don't call it a gooseneck.

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    OK, here're the shots of my new-to-me bonty. So they questions are:
    What kind is it? The seller said race lite, I think it's a race.
    What year?
    Did it come with a shock, or should I get to work putting on the rigid fork I got?
    What size BB should I use to avoid the chainring grinding the frame?
    Thanks y'all!





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    Quote Originally Posted by doccutter
    OK, here're the shots of my new-to-me bonty. So they questions are:
    What kind is it? The seller said race lite, I think it's a race.
    What year?
    Did it come with a shock, or should I get to work putting on the rigid fork I got?
    What size BB should I use to avoid the chainring grinding the frame?
    Thanks y'all!
    The answers to most of your questions can be found here:

    http://www.eandsweb.com/me/bontrager/

    If that rigid fork came with it, I'd put it back on. That's the way it should be.
    Bottom bracket width is dependent on the crank not the frame. I'm not sure what model cranks you have there, but I someone here will likely be able to identify them and give you a spindle length recommendation. Good luck on the build up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddybuddy
    The answers to most of your questions can be found here:

    http://www.eandsweb.com/me/bontrager/

    If that rigid fork came with it, I'd put it back on. That's the way it should be.
    Bottom bracket width is dependent on the crank not the frame. I'm not sure what model cranks you have there, but I someone here will likely be able to identify them and give you a spindle length recommendation. Good luck on the build up.
    Thanks MuddyBuddy,
    The problem is that the bike arrived to me pretty hacked up, I have no idea what's original on it at this point. If I could figure out the year, that might be helpful, but it's all been painted "anti-theft black". The rigid fork I bought later, assuming that the bike was originally rigid, but I'm not entirely sure that it was! It's got single-piece seat stays, capped wishbone, and gussets on the headtube and around the bottom bracket shell. Could it be a privateer?

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    That's a later model frame. I'd guess that it is suspension corrected for 63mm of travel. The fork would steepen it a little, but it would work fine with the rigid or suspension fork.

    A relieved headtube is the easiest indicator between the Race and Race Lite. I can't tell form your picture which it has.
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    Selling off some OEM 96 RaceLite parts, including fork

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    Here are my two current Bontragers, a 1997 Privateer Comp and a 1996 Race Lite

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4986223371/" title="Privateer 12.9.10 by hamars1, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/4986223371_560f1b6c41.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Privateer 12.9.10" /></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4885741782/" title="Bontrager Race Lite by hamars1, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4885741782_fb8d017edf_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="Bontrager Race Lite" /></a>

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    FS: RaceLite OEM Judy XC Fork

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    C'mon and follow the forum guidelines with regards to selling something. It's $2 cheap to but an ad on MTBR and supports the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    C'mon and follow the forum guidelines with regards to selling something. It's $2 cheap to but an ad on MTBR and supports the forum.
    I'm sorry, I had no idea that posting stuff for sale was outside of guidelines. I'll buy an ad next week.
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    Replacing forks on old Bonty's: my story

    Well, despite the less-than-warm welcome, I'll share with the forum my recent experience replacing forks on vintage Bonty's.

    A broken back has forced me into a more upright riding position, so I had to replace the forks on my 96 Racelite and 97 Privateer with modern, threadless steerers I could run long enough to get my bars higher.

    For the RaceLite I got White Brothers to build a custom Magic 80 fork with a 1" steerer and a custom a/c (424mm) that matched the a/c of the OEM Judy XC that came on the bike. The rake on the Magic is 1.4", longer than the 1.25" that Keith spec'd for his bikes, but less than the more common current standard of 1.6". In theory, the steering should be slower, but I can't really tell any difference. Everything about me on a bike is slower now! The Magic is plusher, faster and stiffer than the Judy. Lovely. Disappointingly, it's a little heavier. It wasn't cheap, but it was no more than other high-end forks.

    For the Privateer, which is mainly a townie now, I got Rody of Groovy Cycles to build me one of his rigid forks with the Bontrager rake and the same a/c as the RaceLite's Judy. I don't remember what was originally on the Privateer Comps, but it was a Rockshock, so I figured the same a/c was probably right. The fork rides great. Rody uses a big box crown that is actually kind of reminiscent of the way old bolted together Bonty crowns. The price was really reasonable and the wait wasn't too terribly long (6 mos or so).

    So yes, it can be done. You can replace the forks on your vintage Bonty and still largely retain that sweet Bontrager ride.

    I'll post some pix at some point.

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    seat collar replacement

    what size seat collar fits a privateer? my original one is stripped,and now misplaced, i was thinking a salsa quick release would be a good replacement..would a 28.6 fit? I know the seatpost is 27.0 but unsure of collar size...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfkid
    what size seat collar fits a privateer? my original one is stripped,and now misplaced, i was thinking a salsa quick release would be a good replacement..would a 28.6 fit? I know the seatpost is 27.0 but unsure of collar size...
    Both my Privateer and Race lite run a 28.6 front mech, so yes a 28.6 collar for your privateer would be perfect........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1978
    Here are my two current Bontragers, a 1997 Privateer Comp and a 1996 Race Lite

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    These bikes are all so sweet. I've got a friend here in Athens who has a Bonty Privateer. Not the most valuable of Bonty's but i'm still pretty jealous. She never rides it either . The most interesting thing about her Bonty is that her brother found it in a dumpster. I wish I had that kind of luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundz
    Scored a '97 Privateer Comp recently. It's 17" from center of BB to center of top tube. Someone told me that this is a large according to Bontrager method of sizing things. Is this correct? Photo:

    HEY THEIR , YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT YOUR FRAME , 17 INCHES , BEING A LARGE BUY THE PRE TREK BONTRAGER SIZING CHART

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundz
    Scored a '97 Privateer Comp recently. It's 17" from center of BB to center of top tube. Someone told me that this is a large according to Bontrager method of sizing things. Is this correct? Photo:

    I just picked-up this 96 Privateer S and its also a size large frame.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GOODY925BONTY
    HEY THEIR , YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT YOUR FRAME , 17 INCHES , BEING A LARGE BUY THE PRE TREK BONTRAGER SIZING CHART
    I don't think they changed it after the buyout. I have a large pre-Trek and a large post-Trek and they fit the same.

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    OK, so Iīve been an on and off lurker on this site
    Hereīs my not finished race lite ī97.
    It will feature a nice build of XT 739-740. The brakes are Avid 20īs.
    Forks are Marz Z2 Atom. Itīs not been finished this year as I had hoped but here it is anyways


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    Hereīs my Privateer Comp which I bought brand new in ī98.
    It has more or less stock components and has been a very good friend to me these years
    Itīll be great to see if there is a difference between the brethren.
    I almost forgot to mention that I also ride with the team Rasta jersey
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    Rasta paint

    I had a Keith-built, custom Bontrager back in 1983. Originally, it had a yellow-to-green fade paint-job, yellow forks and h-bars and yellow down to about the middle of the top-tube. A friend crashed the bike into a cliff hard enough to bend both top and down-tubes at the head tube.

    Fortunately, Paul Sadoff, who worked for KB at the time, was able to fix the frame by cutting out the bad sections and re-attaching the head-tube. Being broke, I didn't want to repaint the whole bike, so we masked off the front section and just resprayed it red, with a hard line (no fade) at the green. That left the frame red and green, with a yellow fork and h-bars. Yah mon!

    I don't know if it planted the seed of someday having a production rasta paint job on a Bontrager, but I bet it was the first rasta Bonty ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredlf
    I had a Keith-built, custom Bontrager back in 1983. Originally, it had a yellow-to-green fade paint-job, yellow forks and h-bars and yellow down to about the middle of the top-tube. A friend crashed the bike into a cliff hard enough to bend both top and down-tubes at the head tube.

    Fortunately, Paul Sadoff, who worked for KB at the time, was able to fix the frame by cutting out the bad sections and re-attaching the head-tube. Being broke, I didn't want to repaint the whole bike, so we masked off the front section and just resprayed it red, with a hard line (no fade) at the green. That left the frame red and green, with a yellow fork and h-bars. Yah mon!

    I don't know if it planted the seed of someday having a production rasta paint job on a Bontrager, but I bet it was the first rasta Bonty ever.
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    Small world?
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    No freakin' way

    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    what size wheels?
    24" wheels. That is clearly my old bike! I recognize the chip in the h/s cup. Wow.

    Are you the guy I sold it to back in the mid-90's?

    Amazing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredlf
    Are you the guy I sold it to back in the mid-90's?

    He's not. Still pretty cool though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    He's not. Still pretty cool though!
    Well, I'm dying to know how the bike ended up where ever it did. So startling to see it after 15 years! I put a lot of miles on that bike.

    I only have two pictures from "back in the day", though maybe more lurking in a box of slides in a shoebox somewhere...
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    Very cool Bonty
    But whatīs the deal with 24 " wheels? Were the early mtbīs 24"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by namkrad
    Very cool Bonty
    But whatīs the deal with 24 " wheels? Were the early mtbīs 24"?
    Some builders back then were experimenting with smaller wheels. Cannondale even had production bikes with 24" rear, 26" front.

    But no, in the case of this bike, it was originally built for a kid who rode BMX and he wanted an MTB that was more like a BMX. I don't think that KB built 24" wheel bikes in general at that time.

    It was a fun bike to ride. Very nimble for such a long wheelbase. The small wheels were really only a disadvantage on fire roads/asphalt, when it was hard to keep up with the "adult sized" bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredlf
    Well, I'm dying to know how the bike ended up where ever it did. So startling to see it after 15 years!.
    BIN on ePay about an hour(maybe less) after it was listed. do you remember what year the repair was done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    BIN on ePay about an hour(maybe less) after it was listed. do you remember what year the repair was done?

    good looking shepherd

    Dude, post some pics for the guy!
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    did you ever notice the rear dropouts fred
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    Fork swap

    I originally built my 96 NOS race a few years back with a "zokes Z3 light. Springs waay too soft for me, never thrilled with it for that reason.

    So I threw my Big One Inch on, feels much better! I don't recall seeing a bonty with a FAT fork here before, so...

    I just picked up heavier spring for the zokes, so we'll see what the future brings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    BIN on ePay about an hour(maybe less) after it was listed. do you remember what year the repair was done?

    good looking shepherd

    As best I can recall, the frame was repaired in 1987. One of the rear canti-bosses (left, I think) was replaced a year or so after that. The fork steerer was repaired after it broke jumping a water bar in 1994 (that was an exciting ride...).

    I believe the main triangle is Reynolds 531 and the rear triangle is 501.

    And yes, yes please, do post some pics! It's like finding an old friend you were sure had died!

    I'll trade more stories for some pics...
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    this has feel good written all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister






    did you ever notice the rear dropouts fred
    Wow, it looks like it's pretty much exactly as I sold it, back in '95 or '96. The front wheel is original, so are the cranks, brakes and the ders. The rear wheel was built by me around 1989 or so? I replaced the original yellow "bull-moose" style bars around 1990 I think.

    The rear dropouts are campy, as I recall. Or something else?

    That bike was my main form of transportation for nearly a decade. I'm guessing I put about 15 or 20k miles on it. It's been ridden in Utah, Santa Cruz, Colorado, North Carolina, Idaho and even Mexico. Ah, the memories...

    Many thanks for posting the pics. Really made my day (week, even).

    cheers,
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    Can some one show me the different kinds of Bontrager steel forks. Since the frame rake was 1.25" this is not that common. I have seen that Bontrager offered not only the composite fork but also a welded fork. but I have nerver seen the welded fork thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDXdog
    I originally built my 96 NOS race a few years back with a "zokes Z3 light. Springs waay too soft for me, never thrilled with it for that reason.

    So I threw my Big One Inch on, feels much better! I don't recall seeing a bonty with a FAT fork here before, so...

    I just picked up heavier spring for the zokes, so we'll see what the future brings.


    Sure that isn't a Yo fork? What is the axle-crown length? Looks rad, in any case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyjk
    Can some one show me the different kinds of Bontrager steel forks. Since the frame rake was 1.25" this is not that common. I have seen that Bontrager offered not only the composite fork but also a welded fork. but I have nerver seen the welded fork thanks
    The link below shows both styles on the 2nd page:
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    Sure that isn't a Yo fork? What is the axle-crown length? Looks rad, in any case!
    Blades measure 1", not 1.25" like the Yo.

    It's threaded too, so it may be an early BOI. Definitely not the taller "suspended" length.

    I've had it long time...spent many years on my Klein.

    I'm running 9 speed on it now, but during this winter I'm thinking of going back to 8-speed, and canti's.

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    Interesting mix! There were a couple phases of sus correction with BOIs, but your certainly looks like a 395 from here. My '93 fork is just over 400 (405-10?).
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyjk
    Can some one show me the different kinds of Bontrager steel forks. Since the frame rake was 1.25" this is not that common. I have seen that Bontrager offered not only the composite fork but also a welded fork. but I have nerver seen the welded fork thanks
    there's a few missing from this pic

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    there's a few missing from this pic

    Any of those forks ever end up on a bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyjk
    Can some one show me the different kinds of Bontrager steel forks. Since the frame rake was 1.25" this is not that common. I have seen that Bontrager offered not only the composite fork but also a welded fork. but I have nerver seen the welded fork thanks
    Do you mean the factory welded Unicrown fork specd on the Privateers? If so look at the dark green 96 Privateer S above in post 560. Thats a Bontrager factory rigid welded unicrown fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N10S
    Do you mean the factory welded Unicrown fork specd on the Privateers? If so look at the dark green 96 Privateer S above in post 560. Thats a Bontrager factory rigid welded unicrown fork.
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    yeah I was about to say I have never heard of a bontrager welded unicrown fork from the 90's. I have seen unicrown bonty forks but only on his 80's bikes.

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    Yeah...I use the "Bontrager fork" term loosely as I know the fork is just a Tange steel fork that Bontrager specd on their Privateers. Even so, I wonder if its just a standard off the shelf Tange fork painted at the factory or if they actually bothered to build the fork with Bontrager fork rake specs? At any rate its the only "welded" Bontrager fork I know of and figured thats what kellyjk might be referencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y
    Interesting mix! There were a couple phases of sus correction with BOIs, but your certainly looks like a 395 from here. My '93 fork is just over 400 (405-10?).
    Exactly where are you taking the measurement from?
    From the top of the crown race to center of dropout is approx 388mm.

    From center of drop to top of fork leg (yo eddy cap) is approx 375mm

    Sticker on the side of the leg says "RD 1991"

    Dropouts are Campy. Stem is 1" threaded.

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    Sorry--should have said 390. Perhaps I was remembering an end of the axle length---I don't have one of the older forks (that isn't bent to hell) any longer to check--or just misremembering. But yours is the proper length for 90-91-92. My '93 is 16" a-c, so about 405-6ish millimeters.

    The stickering was the same even into the Serotta years. Nice to have Campy ends on it--not all of them had 'em. And nice to have one with a long steerer--most I see are for medium Yo's which are pretty short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N10S
    Yeah...I use the "Bontrager fork" term loosely as I know the fork is just a Tange steel fork that Bontrager specd on their Privateers. Even so, I wonder if its just a standard off the shelf Tange fork painted at the factory or if they actually bothered to build the fork with Bontrager fork rake specs? At any rate its the only "welded" Bontrager fork I know of and figured thats what kellyjk might be referencing.
    he probably meant welded on bosses and dropouts unlike what's on the comp fork.

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    So, my girlfriend has been riding with me (not since it started snowing) on one of my bikes, and she wants something which is really HERS, which means that she wants a certain color. I bought her a Bontrager Race frame which someone painted black because she wanted a black bike with purple decals. I plan to buy some purple diagonal cut decals from those guys in Uruguay, and I have most of the parts that I need. Here is what I don't have: The brake posts/ bolts, and the plastic pulley.
    Any of you on the forum who can point me in the right direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    he probably meant welded on bosses and dropouts unlike what's on the comp fork.
    Yep, could be. I just noted his comment made the distinction between the composite style forks (which I assumed to be all bolted crown), and a welded version (which I assumed to be a unicrown or some kind of rare segmented fork I had never seen) rigid fork. Probably thinking too hard about something that doesn't really matter..

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    So what are the weights of some of these bikes?
    How about a ace lite built into a simple single speed with normal (not weight weenie) parts?
    What about a full XT geared bike?

    I hope to get one shortly if the guy wants to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellyjk
    I have seen that Bontrager offered not only the composite fork but also a welded fork. but I have nerver seen the welded fork thanks


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    That's a cool fork! I've never seen one before. When were they made? (Or was this another thing KB whipped up just because the factory had not churned out an anomaly for a week or two and they needed something odd?) Could it be something from Rock Lobster done with leftovers?
    Don't call it a gooseneck.

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    I think it's something KB whipped up. Could be a Lobster leftover but the dropouts are different. I bought it from KB recently but he didn't say anything about what it was originally built for.
    Last edited by babbalanja; 01-25-2011 at 09:13 AM.

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    do you have a better pic of the dropouts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    do you have a better pic of the dropouts?


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