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    Calling all Steve Potts owners...

    I started putting together a quick serial number database. Right now I have 20 bikes listed and would like to get more. Someday I'd like to post them online if I ever get a site going... Anyway, if youve got one, lets get your serial number listed. So far the range goes from #19 built in 1982 to number 258 built in September of 92 which is probably pretty close to the end of bikes with his name on the downtube.... And why not post a pic while youre here.


    Carsten, I dont have yours yet...

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    I'll help get it rolling.

    SP 984088 (Sept of 1984, frame #88), Fillet Brazed.


    992258 (Sept of 1992, frame #258), Fillet Brazed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Carsten, I dont have yours yet...
    i've tried hard but cannot read it, paint is too thick...

    Edit: i can only see 5 numbers, not 6 like the others. it's either 01703 or 91703. latter is most likely and would make more sense but then the month of production would be missing...

    sneak preview, still missing some parts (see sig...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    i've tried hard but cannot read it, paint is too thick...

    sneak preview, still missing some parts (see sig...)

    Carsten
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    Looks good Carsten.

    The serial number was hard to read on mine too. I had to hold it at an angle in good light. You might be able to put a piece of paper over the BB area and run (the side part) of a pencil over it to see if you can get a trace of it.
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    COOL! I'm in!

    989217, at least I think,

    Paint's kind of thick down there also…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    Edit: i can only see 5 numbers, not 6 like the others. it's either 01703 or 91703. latter is most likely and would make more sense but then the month of production would be missing...
    But then the production number would be too high (#703)...hmmm...

    Of course, this is also assuming Steve's naming convention is perfect, which I'm not sure it is.
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    Mine is from 1992, and was apparently a rush job, as he didn't bother with a serial number. Also, it's TIGed not fillet brazed. Am I still in the club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    But then the production number would be too high (#703)...hmmm...

    Of course, this is also assuming Steve's naming convention is perfect, which I'm not sure it is.
    yes, i also doubt that he has built that many frames in one year... anyways, with Steve being such a perfectionist i would be surprised if he did not keep track of the frames he has built?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    yes, i also doubt that he has built that many frames in one year... anyways, with Steve being such a perfectionist i would be surprised if he did not keep track of the frames he has built?!

    Carsten
    He does have a couple 'little black books' with all the serial numbers and frame size. Pretty old school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    Mine is from 1992, and was apparently a rush job, as he didn't bother with a serial number. Also, it's TIGed not fillet brazed. Am I still in the club?
    Seeing as how he only made...what was it...10 of those 'Steelhead' frames, maybe they didn't need serial numbers?
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    Wow Springtime!!!

    Those white tires actually work on that bike

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    Those aren't white, that's dust from all the ghost jumping. Good times.

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    Ha, too funny, at first glance they looked white.

    a little dust looks right at home on that bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Ha, too funny, at first glance they looked white.

    a little dust looks right at home on that bike
    There is a bit of dust on the bike (but mostly scratches), but the tires are actually gray. They do look nice on the bike, and they work okay (definitely better tires out there).

    I can't wait for the trees, flowers, and grass to look like that again. In fact I'd be happy with temp above the magic 32 degree mark. :|
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    here is #591237

    man! i sure dig that Steelhead of yours laffeux! those things are just straight tough looking, not to mention steve said he had to build them for the local rippers that would whup the lightweight filletbrazed bikes. I dig it for sure, thanks for sharing.

    here is mine, #591237, the invoice for original sale from april 92, this bike matches the bigger one owned by Pottster and Steve himself.

    ok, thanks for the thread and hard work FB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'll help get it rolling.

    SP 984088 (Sept of 1984, frame #88), Fillet Brazed.

    992258 (Sept of 1992, frame #258), Fillet Brazed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    where's maroon?
    It's in post #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    It's in post #7
    i hope you meant eleven repaint? what happened to the tires,man those looked cool on it.

    dang those bars felt good


    edit: err #12 at this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    edit: err #12 at this point?
    It's Laffeaux's bike. I raced it for one of the CCCX series races though. That is one stiff riding bike. Oof.
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    Here's mine...

    ...no serial number visible, a tig/fb'ed model. Delivered to me in February of 1992.

    Just out of curiosity, how many of you are also original owners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider
    ...no serial number visible, a tig/fb'ed model. Delivered to me in February of 1992.

    Just out of curiosity, how many of you are also original owners?

    God that's a great bike.

    There's got to be a serial number there...seems they're all hard to read under the thick paint.


    I wish I was an original owner of a Potts, but to be honest, I didn't really start getting into them until this forum came about. I have guys like you, Nate, and fillet_brazed to blame.

    Second owner of the 84, and 3rd owner of the 92 and my 90 CCR which I still need to get a decent picture of and post here.
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    I can't read/find the framenumbers of the two bikes we have. The big one is from july 1991, around 20 inch c-c. It is similar to the one cursivearmy has, only bigger and a few diffferent parts. In tat year it was called Limited Edition. The smaller one is my wife's X countryracer, 12 inch c-c. That one is fully tigwelded, using Ritchey tubing as far as I know. This is from april 1992. We both are the original owners, my wife still only rides this mtb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    There is a bit of dust on the bike (but mostly scratches), but the tires are actually gray. They do look nice on the bike, and they work okay (definitely better tires out there).

    I can't wait for the trees, flowers, and grass to look like that again. In fact I'd be happy with temp above the magic 32 degree mark. :|

    is it the pic or the seat angle is rather steep for a potts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider
    Just out of curiosity, how many of you are also original owners?
    Not I. When these bikes were new I was too broke to afford one. Back in the day, it was a pretty big stretch for me to come up with a $1100 to buy a KHS. I could only dream of the cool bikes that I saw in the magazine ads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottser
    The smaller one is my wife's X countryracer, 12 inch c-c. That one is fully tigwelded, using Ritchey tubing as far as I know.
    just curious, what diameter seat post does it take? 27.0mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    just curious, what diameter seat post does it take? 27.0mm?

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    27.0 it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider
    27.0 it is.
    Ah, good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    Not I. When these bikes were new I was too broke to afford one. Back in the day, it was a pretty big stretch for me to come up with a $1100 to buy a KHS. I could only dream of the cool bikes that I saw in the magazine ads.
    $1100 was the cost of the frame, Type II fork and WTB greaseguard BB when I bought mine. Brakes, headset, 2 sets of bars/stems, etc increased the price. I swapped in the wheels and drivetrain from my Wicked Fat Chance. I got married in September of '91 and this bike was a combo wedding/Christmas/birthday gift from my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider
    27.0 it is.
    thanks. mine needs a 27.0 too and FB meant that may indicate that it is a Ritchey seat tube. Steve Potts though thought it would be a 27.2 seat tube and other frames need 26.8 i've heard....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    thanks. mine needs a 27.0 too and FB meant that may indicate that it is a Ritchey seat tube. Steve Potts though thought it would be a 27.2 seat tube and other frames need 26.8 i've heard....

    Carsten

    The FB frames (like yours) should be a 26.8.

    I'll have to double check my TIG'ed CCR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    The FB frames (like yours) should be a 26.8.

    I'll have to double check my TIG'ed CCR.
    I am pretty sure my TIG'ed CCR has a 26.8 post. It is from 95, ser. 9557

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    The FB frames (like yours) should be a 26.8.

    I'll have to double check my TIG'ed CCR.
    the 26.8 Suntour XC fits too loose and i would almost close the clamp slot if i would tight it properly. all 27.2 seat posts i have tried (XT, Syncros Ti, Campa) are too thick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    the 26.8 Suntour XC fits too loose and i would almost close the clamp slot if i would tight it properly. all 27.2 seat posts i have tried (XT, Syncros Ti, Campa) are too thick...

    Carsten
    Interesting. The 26.8 Suntour XC fit fine in mine, a 27.0 Ringle was...snuger (if that's a word).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider
    Just out of curiosity, how many of you are also original owners?

    Back in those days I was riding more than I was working

    I managed to scrape together enough to buy a few nice bikes but the WTB Bikes were just a several hundred dollars more out of reach than I had at the time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    the 26.8 Suntour XC fits too loose and i would almost close the clamp slot if i would tight it properly. all 27.2 seat posts i have tried (XT, Syncros Ti, Campa) are too thick...

    Carsten

    Mine's the same way. With a 26.8 when it's clamped down all the way, the slot is almost closed. Maybe almost touching, but I believe these were all hand reamed and this is just a "manufacturing tolerance" when I tried a 27.0 it seemed pretty tight to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    is it the pic or the seat angle is rather steep for a potts?
    Yes, the angles are steeper than a typical Potts. The story goes that a group of guys in Marin wanted Steve to build them bikes that had steeper angles, sturdier, and stiffer than a typical Potts. Steve made 12 of these farmes (called the Steelhead), and supposedly they're all the same size. So it's not a very standard bike for Steve, but does have several WTB nicities (roller cams front and rear, Potts stem, WTB bar, and WTB hubs).

    It rides nicely. I enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    I can still hear the echoes of that song, hows that young man blues song go..."a young man ain't got nothin' in the world these days"
    Nice - I think a little Mose Allison flowing out of the speakers is on call for tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    just curious, what diameter seat post does it take? 27.0mm?

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    My wife's bike uses a 27.0 seatpost just like my fb-one. A nice story from the first days of this bike. I live in Europe and ordered a suntourpost XC overhere to bulld this frame. I wasn't really happy with the length so I asked Steve to build me a WTBpost with a suntourhead a little longer to be sure. Two weeks after receiving the frame Steve came over to Europe for a meeting with Specialized 15 km from our house. He managed to take the right size post and exchange those in the hotel where we met. The same weeks Jacquie P was coming over to race the Grundig races in Belgium, Netherlands, etc. She stayed at our really small apartment in Delft. She heard about the seatpost and asked Charlie to build us a fixedanglepost which we should file down ourselves in the right angle. She arrived two/three days later than we exchanged posts with Steve. I still thank Steve and Charlie a lot for this super fast service. And yes we had a great time going to all those races with Jacquie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    thanks. mine needs a 27.0 too and FB meant that may indicate that it is a Ritchey seat tube. Steve Potts though thought it would be a 27.2 seat tube and other frames need 26.8 i've heard....

    Carsten
    Mine is definately a 27.0 and it is a Ritchey seat tube if that helps.

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    How cool...

    ...would it be for us to converge on Steve's shop with our bikes as a testimony to his incredible talent? Phoenix owners would have to be included as well.

    There were several cool conversations with Steve during the build process ranging from bikes to fishing for Steelhead and Striped Bass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTB-rider
    ...would it be for us to converge on Steve's shop with our bikes as a testimony to his incredible talent? Phoenix owners would have to be included as well.

    There were several cool conversations with Steve during the build process ranging from bikes to fishing for Steelhead and Striped Bass.
    That actually sounds great :-) And I could join in too with my Phoenix, since most Potts' out there are too big for me (still have the 12" Phoenix SE in agony slow process)... Pottser and I will share a plane and count us in

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    Excellent work guys! 40 posts with only one solid serial number and a mugshot of Jeroen. Great! (and some really nice bike pics)

    So far since this post Ive added about 3 more including CRConsulting's. So I think we have 24 now. Im able to deduce that approximately 30 fillet brazed frames were made in '88.

    Keep em coming. Flashlights help a lot, the pencil method that Rumpfy mentioned might help too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Excellent work guys! 40 posts with only one solid serial number and a mugshot of Jeroen. Great! (and some really nice bike pics)

    So far since this post Ive added about 3 more including CRConsulting's. So I think we have 24 now. Im able to deduce that approximately 30 fillet brazed frames were made in '88.

    Keep em coming. Flashlights help a lot, the pencil method that Rumpfy mentioned might help too.

    I tried to set a good example.

    Lots of pictures...but no one was able to read the serial number.

    Gotta put in a little work to read it. If it were me, I'd want to know what the serial number on my SP was.


    Perhaps a trip to SP's is in order to get all the serial numbers off his bikes too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    COOL! I'm in!

    989217, at least I think,

    Paint's kind of thick down there also.....
    this is such a beautifull bike.. that's my favourite VRC mtbr.com bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    this is such a beautifull bike.. that's my favourite VRC mtbr.com bike.

    That is a neat one. That "seafoam green" has really grown on me. Now I love it. The story on the capture of this one is great too.

    CRC, where is this taken. Neat pic there in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Mine's the same way. With a 26.8 when it's clamped down all the way, the slot is almost closed. Maybe almost touching, but I believe these were all hand reamed and this is just a "manufacturing tolerance" when I tried a 27.0 it seemed pretty tight to me.
    When I ordered my bike, Steve asked me what post I would be using and at the time I was a big fan of the IRD post. When I told him that there was dead silence on the other end of the line, after a long pause he told me he hand reamed his seat tubes for 2 posts, either the Suntour XC or the WTB fixed angle. Since the build had already exceeded the budget I had set, I went a little cheaper and ordered the Suntour(which is a great seatpost)
    Unfortunately, I never got around to getting the WTB post, I figured that stuff would always be around, never dreamed Steve and Charlie would get the shaft the way they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    this is such a beautifull bike.. that's my favourite VRC mtbr.com bike.

    Thanks! I've been debating whether to repaint it (same color) or leave it at as is....

    what do you guy's think?

    original paint with all its character from years of riding or repaint for that NOS finish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Mine's the same way. With a 26.8 when it's clamped down all the way, the slot is almost closed. Maybe almost touching, but I believe these were all hand reamed and this is just a "manufacturing tolerance" when I tried a 27.0 it seemed pretty tight to me.
    in the meantime i got a 27.0mm Suntour XC and it fits perfectly. the 26.8 deffo is too small.

    an update on the build. almost there, just waiting for the silver WTB hubs, skinwall tires (maybe, on that one i really like all black tires) and the cloth bar tape.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    That is a neat one. That "seafoam green" has really grown on me. Now I love it. The story on the capture of this one is great too.

    CRC, where is this taken. Neat pic there in the background.

    ahhhhh....
    you noticed, theres a story there.

    It originally hung on the wall at one of the first shops to carry mtb's in San Francisco, Mountain Avenue (on 9th avenue). It has been signed by each person in CK's picture including Craig Mitchell (who's no longer with us)

    Gene (I dont remember his last name) and Mountain Avenue was one of the original Cunningham dealer's along with all kinds of great early brands. Nice guy too. In fact he had a really unique Cunningham. I wonder what ever happened to him, I had heard he moved up to Petaluma. Anyways, he had his own custom built 'ham on display at his shop it was painted a very unique green cammo. and unlike any other Cunningham I have ever seen since. almost like a trials bike, but not really....

    Gene then sold the shop and it hung on the wall for years until Mountain Avenue on 9th closed. The picture made its way to Park Cyclery on Haight St. when Park closed, I bought it from Paul who I had become friends with, and its been in my garage for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Thanks! I've been debating whether to repaint it (same color) or leave it at as is....

    what do you guy's think?

    original paint with all its character from years of riding or repaint for that NOS finish?

    I say leave it. I really like that patina and character on an old classic.

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    I'll second the 'leave it' CR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    in the meantime i got a 27.0mm Suntour XC and it fits perfectly. the 26.8 deffo is too small.

    an update on the build. almost there, just waiting for the silver WTB hubs, skinwall tires (maybe, on that one i really like all black tires) and the cloth bar tape.

    Carsten

    Looks amazing Carsten!

    Gotta go with tan walls on principal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'll second the 'leave it' CR.

    maybe I'll just put the SP decals on it
    it's looking a little naked compared to all the other ones....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Gotta go with tan walls on principal.
    Rumpfy's bike!

    Given how much care you're putting into the rest of the build, blackwall tires seem, and look, wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    maybe I'll just put the SP decals on it
    it's looking a little naked compared to all the other ones....
    Yeah, I debated about putting decals back on mine too.

    I decided not to because it makes it so absolutely subtle...people 'not in the know' wouldn't take a second glance at it....missing the fact its truly a work of art.

    Hell, thats how you ended up with yours pretty much. If the decals were still on it, theres a good chance that more people would have noticed the bike and either make an offer on the bike, or clue the guy into the fact that he had something of value....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dick
    Rumpfy's bike!

    My bike!
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    My bike!
    My bike!

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    Are you planning to ride it at all? Might be too nice to ride, actually.
    i think any bike should be ridden, that's what they are made for. rode the s**t out of it in the Houston mountains, crashed it, frame is bent. who cares, prefer the Klein ride anyways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    an update on the build. almost there, just waiting for the silver WTB hubs, skinwall tires (maybe, on that one i really like all black tires) and the cloth bar tape.Carsten

    Oh man that bike looks Awsome!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    My bike!

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    Hahaha!

    Yes...your bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Thanks! I've been debating whether to repaint it (same color) or leave it at as is....

    what do you guy's think?

    original paint with all its character from years of riding or repaint for that NOS finish?
    leave it as it is. what's the length of that top tube, chainstays and wheelbase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    leave it as it is. what's the length of that top tube, chainstays and wheelbase?

    Looks like...

    22.25" on the top tube
    17" Chainstay's
    41" wheelbase
    19" Seat tube C-T

    I'll have to measure the angle's on this thing sometime be interesting to compare with other's

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Looks like...

    22.25" on the top tube
    17" Chainstay's
    41" wheelbase
    19" Seat tube C-T

    I'll have to measure the angle's on this thing sometime be interesting to compare with other's

    With all the NorCal Potts and the few C'Hams hanging around here...there really should be a PottingHam gathering some time.

    It'd be interesting to compare bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Looks like...

    22.25" on the top tube
    17" Chainstay's
    41" wheelbase
    19" Seat tube C-T

    I'll have to measure the angle's on this thing sometime be interesting to compare with other's
    71/72? all my bikes have your numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    With all the NorCal Potts and the few C'Hams hanging around here...
    It's a good thing there are still a few floating around in Nor Cal eh...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    there really should be a PottingHam gathering some time. It'd be interesting to compare bikes.
    Sure WTB lovefest would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    It's a good thing there are still a few floating around in Nor Cal eh...
    I've not been able to get my hands on enough of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    With all the NorCal Potts and the few C'Hams hanging around here...there really should be a PottingHam gathering some time.

    It'd be interesting to compare bikes.

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    Senor Potts

    Steve makes some kicking frames. I've started on a phoenix in 96' and got a STEVE POTTS custom ti in 03~. Both have been nice to me, especially the phoenix. the ti is nice but the steel phoenix ride is superb.

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    I can't read my Pott's serial #'s!

    Geesh, Steve's welding was sure better than his number stamping. The last few #'s on mine are on top of each other. It looks like... SP 1086_26....maybe 126? Although Cycle Art duplicated the original paint scheme for me ($$$$) it's not the paint that's covering it up. It's just a poorly done stamping. I'll post bike photos later, but mine is a purple/aqua? fade....under chain stay roller cam....I have the drop bars/gooseneck stem and the standard stem/bars....both painted to match. Can anyone decifer these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Peddler
    Can anyone decifer these?
    Such a tease! More pictures please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Peddler
    Geesh, Steve's welding was sure better than his number stamping. The last few #'s on mine are on top of each other. It looks like... SP 1086_26....maybe 126? Although Cycle Art duplicated the original paint scheme for me ($$$$) it's not the paint that's covering it up. It's just a poorly done stamping. I'll post bike photos later, but mine is a purple/aqua? fade....under chain stay roller cam....I have the drop bars/gooseneck stem and the standard stem/bars....both painted to match. Can anyone decifer these?

    Very nice. Thanks. It looks like the phone must have rang while smacking in that second to last number. Well, I have 586122 which means May of '86 and the 122nd made, so it could very well be #126.

    Cant wait to see pictures.

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    here we have feb 88 nummba 173 or 288173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    here we have feb 88 nummba 173 or 288173
    he's alive

    i know there's at least one more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    here we have feb 88 nummba 173 or 288173

    oh man. Youre mean sharky.

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    a warm color for nummba 165 in those cold winter days of january 88
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    that's the one i like most...

    some more pics but it is really time to buy a digital camera Pete!

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    Thanks for the responses!

    Wow, this site and postings are new to me...pretty cool....I got responses and a great photo! Thanks so much! I saw that I could create a profile with photos....maybe I will. I've got a lot of bikes. Two of my projects were actually featured in Mountain Bike Action years ago (more on that later...."brag") OK, I've attached some old photos of the bike taken back in 1986 at one our pancake breakfast events. This was before it was GIVEN to me as someone's old junk....yes it's true. I wish I still had the original Hi E hubs.....(hi flange-low-flange in the back) I only need a few more parts to assemble it. My daily ride is a Phoenix from the same era. I guess I should flip it over and check the serial # there too. Funny, I never thought of looking until I saw this thread. Thanks agin for helping me date my Potts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Peddler
    Geesh, Steve's welding was sure better than his number stamping. The last few #'s on mine are on top of each other. It looks like... SP 1086_26....maybe 126? Although Cycle Art duplicated the original paint scheme for me ($$$$) it's not the paint that's covering it up. It's just a poorly done stamping. I'll post bike photos later, but mine is a purple/aqua? fade....under chain stay roller cam....I have the drop bars/gooseneck stem and the standard stem/bars....both painted to match. Can anyone decifer these?

    Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Peddler
    Wow, this site and postings are new to me...pretty cool....I got responses and a great photo! Thanks so much! I saw that I could create a profile with photos....maybe I will. I've got a lot of bikes. Two of my projects were actually featured in Mountain Bike Action years ago (more on that later...."brag") OK, I've attached some old photos of the bike taken back in 1986 at one our pancake breakfast events. This was before it was GIVEN to me as someone's old junk....yes it's true. I wish I still had the original Hi E hubs.....(hi flange-low-flange in the back) I only need a few more parts to assemble it. My daily ride is a Phoenix from the same era. I guess I should flip it over and check the serial # there too. Funny, I never thought of looking until I saw this thread. Thanks agin for helping me date my Potts!
    Beautiful bike.

    We're looking forward to more photos and stories are always welcome!

    A free Potts doesn't suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    here we have feb 88 nummba 173 or 288173
    Nice of you to share and revive the thread Pete.
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    Thanks Rumpfy

    I need to figure out how to navigate and use this site. As I said, it's all new to me. I'm getting email responses.....pretty cool. I posted some photos late last year in a "build a retro" thread and never heard a word. This is a really nice way to be united with other Potts owners. The photos are spectacular! Thanks for initiating me. I've met Steve Potts a few times. Once at Interbike years ago and again at his shop. What a nice guy! I got him and Mark Slate to sign my copy of Mountain Bike....May-June 1986, Vol.1, No. 6. They were the feature article....."Off Road Drop Bars" was a photo and caption on the cover. It's nice to have old the mags to help in my restorations.

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    CA Peddler -

    Nice bike, but I'm afraid it's too big for you. You should sell it. To me. Cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Peddler
    Wow, this site and postings are new to me...pretty cool....I got responses and a great photo! Thanks so much! I saw that I could create a profile with photos....maybe I will. I've got a lot of bikes. Two of my projects were actually featured in Mountain Bike Action years ago (more on that later...."brag") OK, I've attached some old photos of the bike taken back in 1986 at one our pancake breakfast events. This was before it was GIVEN to me as someone's old junk....yes it's true. I wish I still had the original Hi E hubs.....(hi flange-low-flange in the back) I only need a few more parts to assemble it. My daily ride is a Phoenix from the same era. I guess I should flip it over and check the serial # there too. Funny, I never thought of looking until I saw this thread. Thanks agin for helping me date my Potts!

    Ive seen that one. I think we've talked via email a few years ago. I remember you telling me that the bike was given to you. Pretty bike.

    Post shots of your Phoenix in the Phoenix thread when you get a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    here we have feb 88 nummba 173 or 288173
    Wow, that one looks like the 26" wheel twin to Steve's road bike with mini-cams.

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    My fb NOS Potts is still a work in progress - any leads welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    My fb NOS Potts is still a work in progress - any leads welcome.
    Your quota is filled. You're done pal.
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    A few newer photos

    The previous photos I posted were taken back in '86. Here are some new ones as the restoration progresses. When I got the bike it had been painted a metal flake red. I gave Cycle Art the frame and the original photos. This is the result. I'd sure like to find original brake levers and shifters for the drop bars and I wonder what quick releases were used....Campi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Peddler
    The previous photos I posted were taken back in '86. Here are some new ones as the restoration progresses. When I got the bike it had been painted a metal flake red. I gave Cycle Art the frame and the original photos. This is the result. I'd sure like to find original brake levers and shifters for the drop bars and I wonder what quick releases were used....Campi?

    Fantastic!

    Beautiful resto on that.
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    Well, its not exactly a mountain bike, but here is my vintage Potts roadie. The bike was built in 1988 and has an 8 speed dura-ace drivetrain. Pretty much the usual Potts frame construction, including a WTB/Chris King greaseguard headset, and greaseguard bottom bracket. The crankset is what the revisionist roadies call a compact, but we call 110mm standard. Its the Trek Matrix-branded Cooks from a bit later than most of the rest of the bike. Serial number is 1288196.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datawhacker
    Well, its not exactly a mountain bike, but here is my vintage Potts roadie. The bike was built in 1988 and has an 8 speed dura-ace drivetrain. Pretty much the usual Potts frame construction, including a WTB/Chris King greaseguard headset, and greaseguard bottom bracket. The crankset is what the revisionist roadies call a compact, but we call 110mm standard. Its the Trek Matrix-branded Cooks from a bit later than most of the rest of the bike. Serial number is 1288196.

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    Beauty, Don. I'll add that to the database.

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    Classy.
    You've got yourself a sneaky couple of Potts'.
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    Those bikes are awesome! Is this the same Steve Potts that made the "Potts Mod" hollow stem shim bolt for freestylin' in the 80's? I had that on my Hutch TrickStar and Redline RL 20II. Did he make any BMX frames or other BMX modifications? What a great "Bikeman". Once again, those bikes are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARP
    Those bikes are awesome! Is this the same Steve Potts that made the "Potts Mod" hollow stem shim bolt for freestylin' in the 80's? I had that on my Hutch TrickStar and Redline RL 20II. Did he make any BMX frames or other BMX modifications? What a great "Bikeman". Once again, those bikes are great!
    Same name, different man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Classy.
    You've got yourself a sneaky couple of Potts'.
    Someone needs to post photos of that other one...two Potts and neither is a (single) mountain bike. Pretty cool.

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    I am the proud, original, and only owner of Steve Potts #SP486117. I have had it since July 1, 1986 when I picked it up from Mark Slate's house. Steve and Mark designed the paint scheme for me using the colors that I had selected. It is my only mountain bike and I still ride it on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I am the proud, original, and only owner of Steve Potts #SP486117. I have had it since July 1, 1986 when I picked it up from Mark Slate's house. Steve and Mark designed the paint scheme for me using the colors that I had selected. It is my only mountain bike and I still ride it on a regular basis.

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    hmm, really nice! thanks for posting and welcome here too! black original rollercams and fixed angle seat post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I am the proud, original, and only owner of Steve Potts #SP486117. I have had it since July 1, 1986 when I picked it up from Mark Slate's house. Steve and Mark designed the paint scheme for me using the colors that I had selected. It is my only mountain bike and I still ride it on a regular basis.

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    Wow! What a beauty. That definitely makes my top 5 list. Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

    The paint looks like the 87 WTB Trek Team bikes. Maybe this inspired the paint on those??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    The paint looks like the 87 WTB Trek Team bikes. Maybe this inspired the paint on those??
    That is right! I told Steve and Mark Slate that I wanted a blue, black, and white bike, but that they could figure out the design. The frame, fork, and stem went out to be completely painted blue, returned to Steve so that he could mask the white areas, and then were finished with the black pin striping. Mark told me that they would never paint another one like it (to keep it one of a kind), but that they liked the design so much that they were going to paint their WTB/Trek team bikes similar to it with reverse colors.

    By the way, I also have a WTB team jersey from 1987.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I am the proud, original, and only owner of Steve Potts #SP486117. I have had it since July 1, 1986 when I picked it up from Mark Slate's house. Steve and Mark designed the paint scheme for me using the colors that I had selected. It is my only mountain bike and I still ride it on a regular basis.

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    That's a beauty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    That is right! I told Steve and Mark Slate that I wanted a blue, black, and white bike, but that they could figure out the design. The frame, fork, and stem went out to be completely painted blue, returned to Steve so that he could mask the white areas, and then were finished with the black pin striping. Mark told me that they would never paint another one like it (to keep it one of a kind), but that they liked the design so much that they were going to paint their WTB/Trek team bikes similar to it with reverse colors.

    By the way, I also have a WTB team jersey from 1987.

    MB

    Very nice. I have an 87 WTB-Trek bike, I'll snap off some pics. It was also painted by Steve. I'd love to see some more pics of yours, too.

    Thats a recent picture right? It sure looks to be in great shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I am the proud, original, and only owner of Steve Potts #SP486117. I have had it since July 1, 1986 when I picked it up from Mark Slate's house. Steve and Mark designed the paint scheme for me using the colors that I had selected. It is my only mountain bike and I still ride it on a regular basis.

    MB in southern California

    A classic amongst classics!

    You know you got it right the first time when you've been on the same bike for 20+ years.

    Fantastic from front to back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I am the proud, original, and only owner of Steve Potts #SP486117. I have had it since July 1, 1986 when I picked it up from Mark Slate's house. Steve and Mark designed the paint scheme for me using the colors that I had selected. It is my only mountain bike and I still ride it on a regular basis.

    MB in southern California

    wow, the geometry: the bb seems smack in the middle of the (short)wheelbase. should be a technical trail monster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Very nice. I have an 87 WTB-Trek bike, I'll snap off some pics. It was also painted by Steve. I'd love to see some more pics of yours, too.

    Thats a recent picture right? It sure looks to be in great shape.
    Thanks Fillet. I took the pictures today. I have posted more in my member gallery. I hope you like them.

    http://gallery.mtbr.com/showgallery....&ppuser=355195

    It is my understanding that Steve didn't actually paint his frames, but that he sent them out to one of the main painters in the Bay Area. I remember that it was one of the companies that we all knew about in the 80s, but now I forget. I could be wrong though. I know that mine went out from Steve's shop for painting, returned for masking, and went out again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    Thanks Fillet. I took the pictures today. I have posted more in my member gallery. I hope you like them.

    http://gallery.mtbr.com/showgallery....&ppuser=355195

    It is my understanding that Steve didn't actually paint his frames, but that he sent them out to one of the main painters in the Bay Area. I remember that it was one of the companies that we all knew about in the 80s, but now I forget. I could be wrong though. I know that mine went out from Steve's shop for painting, returned for masking, and went out again.

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    Amazing. How have you been able to keep it in such great shape all these years?

    Hardly looks like it's got 500 miles on it!

    Very impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    Thanks Fillet. I took the pictures today. I have posted more in my member gallery. I hope you like them.

    http://gallery.mtbr.com/showgallery....&ppuser=355195

    It is my understanding that Steve didn't actually paint his frames, but that he sent them out to one of the main painters in the Bay Area. I remember that it was one of the companies that we all knew about in the 80s, but now I forget. I could be wrong though. I know that mine went out from Steve's shop for painting, returned for masking, and went out again.

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    nice shots. I love the classic Marin bar position there. I dont know if I could get used to that.

    Steve did do some paint and was very good at it but he must not have liked it as much as he did other things. He painted the WTB team bikes and did some of the more intricate paint jobs with masking. That was kind of his specialty it seems. But yeah, youre right as far as I know, D&D did most of his paint.

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    Is it my faulty perception or does that fork have a lot of rake on it?

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    Thanks Fillet. I took the pictures today. I have posted more in my member gallery. I hope you like them.
    Wow! Nicely buffed out head badge. Was just talking to Steve a few minutes ago about that badge - said he spent a lot of time hand cutting those badges.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    nice shots. I love the classic Marin bar position there. I dont know if I could get used to that.
    It's almost like a flat bar version of a WTB drop bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    It's almost like a flat bar version of a WTB drop bar.

    Yeah, I was noticing that. On a rough downhill on a real muddy, wet day that might make me a little nervous about slipping off. Reminds me of a road bike (motorcycyle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguwin
    Is it my faulty perception or does that fork have a lot of rake on it?

    Penguano

    yeah. the shallow front angle works well w/ lots of rake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Yeah, I was noticing that. On a rough downhill on a real muddy, wet day that might make me a little nervous about slipping off. Reminds me of a road bike (motorcycyle).
    Your hands don't slip off your WTB drops, do they?

    And besides, who's going to ride that beauty on a real muddy, wet day

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Your hands don't slip off your WTB drops, do they?

    And besides, who's going to ride that beauty on a real muddy, wet day

    no sir, but they also have the little "hook" there at the bottom to help out.

    in reality, theyre really not angled down all that much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    It's almost like a flat bar version of a WTB drop bar.
    or what happens when the bar clamp bolt isn't tightened

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Wow! Nicely buffed out head badge. Was just talking to Steve a few minutes ago about that badge - said he spent a lot of time hand cutting those badges.


    Interestingly, the previous owner of the bike attached to the headbadge below said he spent a lot of time doing some (alot?) of the work to the early badges while spending time as a shop rat/helper for Steve back when he was in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Amazing. How have you been able to keep it in such great shape all these years?

    Hardly looks like it's got 500 miles on it!

    Very impressive.
    If you look closely at the pictures in my member galley, you will see quite a few nicks and scratches, and the photos do not show the small "sandblasting" nicks around the wheel areas. That said, there are a few reasons that it looks the way it does even though it was raced for a few years and is still ridden as my primary bike: 1) I live in southern California and don't ride in the rockiest or muddiest of terrain; 2) I am a wussy descender and have rarely crashed hard; 3) some components are somewhat new; 4) I used to wash it after nearly every ride; 5) I recently took components off the frame, washed it, polished it, and waxed it; and most important 6) Steve provided a GREAT coat of paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    nice shots. I love the classic Marin bar position there. I dont know if I could get used to that.
    I ran a Cook Bros. titanium flat bar with typical (minimal) bend and bar ends for more than a decade, but recently switched back to the original WTB bar due to pain in my palms on long (and sometime short) rides. The WTB bars are adjusted to the point where my hands naturaly want to be positioned. As a result, I am much more comfortable and even more confident on the bike than I have been in many years. Because it is a natural position and the grips are so grippy, my hands do not want to slide off as some may fear. You would be surprised if you tried bars like this and adjusted them to your natural position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    If you look closely at the pictures in my member galley, you will see quite a few nicks and scratches, and the photos do not show the small "sandblasting" nicks around the wheel areas. That said, there are a few reasons that it looks the way it does even though it was raced for a few years and is still ridden as my primary bike: 1) I live in southern California and don't ride in the rockiest or muddiest of terrain; 2) I am a wussy descender and have rarely crashed hard; 3) some components are somewhat new; 4) I used to wash it after nearly every ride; 5) I recently took components off the frame, washed it, polished it, and waxed it; and most important 6) Steve provided a GREAT coat of paint.

    MB
    Well, of the 5 pages of Potts on this thread (and other pages with some amazing examples), this is easily one of the finer SP's to hit these pages. Thank you again for sharing, I think we're all getting a kick out of it.


    **EDIT** question answered while writing this post.

    How do you like riding with that handle bar set up with the downward sweep? That would spook me a bit I think.

    I run mine back with a slight up sweep...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    nice shots. I love the classic Marin bar position there. I dont know if I could get used to that.

    Steve did do some paint and was very good at it but he must not have liked it as much as he did other things. He painted the WTB team bikes and did some of the more intricate paint jobs with masking. That was kind of his specialty it seems. But yeah, youre right as far as I know, D&D did most of his paint.
    Mine was painted by Cycledelix in Mill Valley. The lady's name was Caroline, I think she's Gravy's sister?

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    Thanks to the Vintage, Retro, Classic forum, I have now found out about the Keyesville Classic race. I am looking forward to getting my 86 Potts back on the race course in 08. Maybe I'll even wear my 1986 WTB team jersey (it is still in good shape). It will be cool to meet some you you guys and get out on the trail together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    Thanks to the Vintage, Retro, Classic forum, I have now found out about the Keyesville Classic race. I am looking forward to getting my 86 Potts back on the race course in 08. Maybe I'll even wear my 1986 WTB team jersey (it is still in good shape). It will be cool to meet some you you guys and get out on the trail together.

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    Nice! Well, we're all looking forward to seeing that Potts first hand!
    It'll be good to have another VRC'er out there with us.

    If you do a search in the VRC for 'Keyesville', there are some cool recap threads.

    2007: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=279393

    2006: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=174586

    2005: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=85795
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    And I guess I can add my finished product to this thread:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    And I guess I can add my finished product to this thread:
    Gorgeous!!! Do you actually ride this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    Gorgeous!!! Do you actually ride this one?

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    Thanks.

    I haven't yet...just finished it over the weekend.
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    OT ... but did Potts (or Ritchey) make (m)any frames in a 14-15" c-c seattube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden
    OT ... but did Potts (or Ritchey) make (m)any frames in a 14-15" c-c seattube?
    Sure. I've seen more small Ritchey's come down the line than Potts'...but they're out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden
    OT ... but did Potts (or Ritchey) make (m)any frames in a 14-15" c-c seattube?

    the smallest was 18 c-t I believe up until the late 80s when longer posts were used.

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    Do any of you know of some good replacement brake pads and holders that will work with our Speedmaster (roller cam) brakes. My WTB pads are a bit old and the posts on the Aztec pads that I recently bought are too small to lock in the WTB brakes. I have not called WTB, but I assume that they are no longer replacing the pads in their brake holders (like they used to do). Any recommendations would be appreciated.

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    Do any of you know of some good replacement brake pads and holders that will work with our Speedmaster (roller cam) brakes. My WTB pads are a bit old and the posts on the Aztec pads that I recently bought are too small to lock in the WTB brakes. I have not called WTB, but I assume that they are no longer replacing the pads in their brake holders (like they used to do). Any recommendations would be appreciated.

    MB - '86 Potts
    the normal Kool-Stop pads fit nicely and were stock on the rollercams for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden
    OT ... but did Potts (or Ritchey) make (m)any frames in a 14-15" c-c seattube?
    I'm not sure about Potts, but the smallest RItchey frames were 17" and came with 24" wheels - standover was 27 1/2".
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I'm not sure about Potts, but the smallest RItchey frames were 17" and came with 24" wheels - standover was 27 1/2".

    yeah. I forgot about those 24" offerings from Tom. But either builder would build you whatever you wanted. Tom had much more of a standard, catalog-type lineup than Steve, though.

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    Old & New Potts'

    I had my '86 Potts in the shop this past week to get a new rear derailleur (the '88 Deore XT finally wore out). There are two stands in the shop and while mine was on one of them, the other was occupied by a titanium Castellano pivotless softail being built up for the first time. Although John Castellano designed the bike, there is a sticker on the seat tube stating that the frame was built by Steve Potts. I am sorry that I did not take a picture, but it was really cool to have two bikes built by the same artist 21 years apart on the stands at the same time in one small shop.

    I am not a big fan of many current bikes. I love the clean look of my fillet brazed Potts and do not like the clunky design (let alone maintenance requirements) of most current dual suspension frames. However, if I get to the point that I need to get a new/modern bike with suspension (I've never tried one, so I don't know what I am missing), I will seriously consider that Castellano. The softail design is brilliant and Steve's craftsmanship is superb.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Root Cellar Potts

    Post here if you can ID these two Potts and I'll tell you where they are...

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/harleyparson/RootCellarPotts/photo#5135493119181888498"><img src="https://lh5.google.com/harleyparson/R0TvyGtMm_I/AAAAAAAAAzE/xOYcuwqZ_eY/s400/parson-R1-12A.jpg" /></a>
    Owner most likely will not discuss the green one but thinks the other is suitable as a single speed but he won't do it.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/harleyparson/RootCellarPotts/photo#5135493106296986594"><img src="https://lh6.google.com/harleyparson/R0TvxWtMm-I/AAAAAAAAAzI/t7QkOo_cc2M/s400/parson-R1-11A.jpg" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/harleyparson/RootCellarPotts/photo#5135493084822150098"><img src="https://lh5.google.com/harleyparson/R0TvwGtMm9I/AAAAAAAAAyU/bD_7NRlLf98/s400/parson-R1-10A.jpg" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    Post here if you can ID these two Potts and I'll tell you where they are...
    Very nice pair!

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    GD! i want one.

    im guessing the bikes are in the UK? or you ride motorcycles.
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    (Hint) Not in Europe

    Location of said bikes is reveled when this forum can ID Model of said bikes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    Location of said bikes is reveled when this forum can ID Model of said bikes...
    The green one is strange since it looks older and has Swift-like features, for example the seat collar and the TIG welding, but the brakes are higher end than the ones that came on my Swift. Still, I guess Swift. The Ti looks like a Phoenix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    The green one is strange since it looks older and has Swift-like features, for example the seat collar and the TIG welding, but the brakes are higher end than the ones that came on my Swift. I'd guess the Ti is a Phoenix.

    I was thinking Swift too.
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    BushPig gets it. Good Guessing. You guys are good. Post photo or link to your Swift please.

    Bikes are in a basement in Fairfax CA. Green one IS a SWIFT with beta GG BB. and rollercams. (photos taken last week just after Tam Rancho ride)

    Phoenix is Ti and owner would like to see it as a single speed but has no time or funds to make it so. What recommendations from this group on specifications if BB is also Cartridge GG.

    Would the rear Hub be eccentric or go with chain tensioner?

    P.S. Same owner sold Blue Phoenix to me then me to laffeaux who posted photos somewhere here before sold to ???.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    BushPig gets it. Good Guessing. You guys are good. Post photo or link to your Swift please.

    Bikes are in a basement in Fairfax CA. Green one IS a SWIFT with beta GG BB. and rollercams. (photos taken last week just after Tam Rancho ride)

    Phoenix is Ti and owner would like to see it as a single speed but has no time or funds to make it so. What recommendations from this group on specifications if BB is also Cartridge GG.

    Would the rear Hub be eccentric or go with chain tensioner?

    P.S. Same owner sold Blue Phoenix to me then me to laffeaux who posted photos somewhere here before sold to ???.
    Guessing?

    I wouldn't single speed it. I am not a big fan of single speeding bikes. Interesting that the Phoenix has a cartridge bb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Guessing?

    I wouldn't single speed it. I am not a big fan of single speeding bikes. Interesting that the Phoenix has a cartridge bb.
    Both have cartridge GG BB. (I think, could be wrong about the TI BB but hay YOU guys Never "Guess". ;-)

    I would not SS it either but who is to say it would not be super light and ride nice?

    Where is the photo of Your Swift???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    Both have cartridge GG BB. (I think, could be wrong about the TI BB but hay YOU guys Never "Guess". ;-)

    I would not SS it either but who is to say it would not be super light and ride nice?

    Where is the photo of Your Swift???
    Here is mine. It is at Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes. It used to belong to Slim of Slim's. It was the shop in Mill Valley were Swifts were sold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    BushPig gets it. Good Guessing. You guys are good. Post photo or link to your Swift please.

    Bikes are in a basement in Fairfax CA. Green one IS a SWIFT with beta GG BB. and rollercams. (photos taken last week just after Tam Rancho ride)

    Phoenix is Ti and owner would like to see it as a single speed but has no time or funds to make it so. What recommendations from this group on specifications if BB is also Cartridge GG.

    Would the rear Hub be eccentric or go with chain tensioner?

    P.S. Same owner sold Blue Phoenix to me then me to laffeaux who posted photos somewhere here before sold to ???.

    He could sell me the Swift to fund the Phoenix.

    Lets see how good you are.

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    I know that swingarm to the left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    Would the rear Hub be eccentric or go with chain tensioner?
    Eccentric hub would turn that into a sweet single speed. Phoenix' are great riding bikes and sweeter in ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    He could sell me the Swift to fund the Phoenix.

    Lets see how good you are.

    Name this bike:
    brazed CCR with some Ham on it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Howley
    P.S. Same owner sold Blue Phoenix to me then me to laffeaux who posted photos somewhere here before sold to ???.
    I liked the blue one. It's now in Sky's possession in San Deigo. And to replace it, I found the next size up frame, which is currently at Steve shop waiting for a few repairs.
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    Where is the photo of Your Swift???[/QUOTE]

    One of the two MWC Swifts...old hubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    I liked the blue one. It's now in Sky's possession in San Deigo. And to replace it, I found the next size up frame, which is currently at Steve shop waiting for a few repairs.

    Was it broken or are you just having the brake bosses moved? My friend just asked me yesterday on our turkey ride if Phoenixes have any breakage issues. I have never heard of any...

    Mike, better in ti? I dont know. I dont know if my steel one could feel any more perfect.

    Rumpfy, can I guess on that marroon colored bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan lee
    Where is the photo of Your Swift???
    One of the two MWC Swifts...old hubs.[/QUOTE]

    I heard about the other one. Got pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed

    Rumpfy, can I guess on that marroon colored bike?

    You Sir, can not guess.

    Though I doubt anyone here will be able to get the correct answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    One of the two MWC Swifts...old hubs.
    I heard about the other one. Got pics?[/QUOTE]

    Good question...Nate? Eric? got anything you would like to share? I believe there are two or three new things around the shop that are worth sharing. I'm just the silent partner which appearently means I'm not privy to photos of "new" vintage stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten
    the normal Kool-Stop pads fit nicely and were stock on the rollercams for some time.

    Carsten
    I contacted WTB who conformed that their brake pads had a larger diameter post than standard cantilever brake pads. After using these pads for many years, it seems that my rollercams have worn to a point where I can not get a standard new cantilever brake pad to lock in the brake mount any more. Unfortunately WTB is no longer providing the brake pad refill service. I am either going to need to stick with my old WTB pads, try to refill a set myself, or get some shims to make new standard pads work. The WTB pads stay in for now while I look for shims.

    Other than this issue, the Potts is riding well and I can't wait for Keyesville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I contacted WTB who conformed that their brake pads had a larger diameter post than standard cantilever brake pads. After using these pads for many years, it seems that my rollercams have worn to a point where I can not get a standard new cantilever brake pad to lock in the brake mount any more. Unfortunately WTB is no longer providing the brake pad refill service. I am either going to need to stick with my old WTB pads, try to refill a set myself, or get some shims to make new standard pads work. The WTB pads stay in for now while I look for shims.

    Other than this issue, the Potts is riding well and I can't wait for Keyesville.

    MB
    MB, I'm afraid your only solution is to sell the entire bike.

    I'll be at Keyesville to pick it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    I contacted WTB who conformed that their brake pads had a larger diameter post than standard cantilever brake pads. After using these pads for many years, it seems that my rollercams have worn to a point where I can not get a standard new cantilever brake pad to lock in the brake mount any more. Unfortunately WTB is no longer providing the brake pad refill service. I am either going to need to stick with my old WTB pads, try to refill a set myself, or get some shims to make new standard pads work. The WTB pads stay in for now while I look for shims.

    Other than this issue, the Potts is riding well and I can't wait for Keyesville.

    MB
    strange. i have switched from KoolStop to WTB pads on NOS Rollercams and a NOS Togglecam and had no problems with the post size. will measure them...

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    Calling all Steve Potts owners...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    here we have feb 88 nummba 173 or 288173
    Cycleshark,

    Do you recall where you bought this bike?

    I was showing this thread to a friend of mine and we both think that the original owner was a friend of ours from in NYC who has since passed away...I always wondered what had happened to his nice bikes after he died, so I was just curious about how you wound up owning this one as it is VERY similar to his?

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    hi michael

    got this 2003 off ebay, from an older nyc finance guy.
    I hope we're wrong on this, otherwise I feel very sorry, since he was such a classy person!

    the bike is, as I got it....didn't even have dust on it.....he used it once in a while for a stroll through central park.

    uncle pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    hi michael

    got this 2003 off ebay, from an older nyc finance guy.
    I hope we're wrong on this, otherwise I feel very sorry, since he was such a classy person!

    the bike is, as I got it....didn't even have dust on it.....he used it once in a while for a stroll through central park.

    uncle pete
    Hey Uncle Pete!

    According to my friend-the one who is very much still alive and by the way told me of his 2 Steve Potts 24" rear / 26" front Trials bikes that were custom made for him in the early 1990s-This bike of yours originally belonged to our mutual friend and his former partner in a bike shop in NYC named; Dave Van Der Veer, who was not only a very early VRC MTB enthusiast (as you can see by his bike) he was an amazing technical rider who passed away at least 5-6 years ago from Cancer related to his service in the Veitnam War, so the man in NYC that you bought this from is most likely still around, he was probably either Dave's wife's friend or just the 2nd owner who bought one of Dave's bikes after he had passed as I believe that Dave was most likely gone by 2003. Dave was a well known NYC perfectionist and was only into high end bikes starting back in the early 1980s. He was actually one of my MTB mentors who taught me the value of the WTB Roller Cam brake and the Cook Bros crank AND the person that I bought my first Fat Chance from in 1985 which was his used 1984 Fat Chance Team Comp, plus he was the person that ordered my 1988 Black Fat Chance from Fat City for me with all of my kooky custom requests!

    That Steve Potts that you have is very special and was defintely never abused (at least by Dave!) and I always wondered where Dave's bikes wound up after he disappeared as he had some very nice stuff. I'm sure that he would be flattered and probably glad to know that this one has wound up in such a good place!
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    thanks mikey for the story...but what good place are you talking about....

    ...it's still here!

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    Here's another Potts for the record

    Serial number 584075








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    Calling all Steve Potts owners...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    thanks mikey for the story...but what good place are you talking about....

    ...it's still here!
    Well, at least it's not still here in NYC locked up in the street waiting to for its owner to deliver me my dinner!
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    Calling all Steve Potts owners...

    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Serial number 584075







    Is there some type of Steve Potts pumpkin patch out west that these things keep popping up in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc
    Is there some type of Steve Potts pumpkin patch out west that these things keep popping up in?
    Pumpkin? There's some kind of patch out here where they sprout from. I hear it's all weeds, though.

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    ssmike

    your shop is too hot....the potts pop up like pottscorn..or sometn like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycleshark
    [SIZE="4"] sometn like that...
    sometn like that. these things are like Hardrocks in Boulder

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Pumpkin? There's some kind of patch out here where they sprout from. I hear it's all weeds, though.
    what crank is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatmikeynyc
    Hey Uncle Pete!

    According to my friend-the one who is very much still alive and by the way told me of his 2 Steve Potts 24" rear / 26" front Trials bikes that were custom made for him in the early 1990s-This bike of yours originally belonged to our mutual friend and his former partner in a bike shop in NYC named; Dave Van Der Veer, who was not only a very early VRC MTB enthusiast (as you can see by his bike) he was an amazing technical rider who passed away at least 5-6 years ago from Cancer related to his service in the Veitnam War, so the man in NYC that you bought this from is most likely still around, he was probably either Dave's wife's friend or just the 2nd owner who bought one of Dave's bikes after he had passed as I believe that Dave was most likely gone by 2003. Dave was a well known NYC perfectionist and was only into high end bikes starting back in the early 1980s. He was actually one of my MTB mentors who taught me the value of the WTB Roller Cam brake and the Cook Bros crank AND the person that I bought my first Fat Chance from in 1985 which was his used 1984 Fat Chance Team Comp, plus he was the person that ordered my 1988 Black Fat Chance from Fat City for me with all of my kooky custom requests!

    That Steve Potts that you have is very special and was defintely never abused (at least by Dave!) and I always wondered where Dave's bikes wound up after he disappeared as he had some very nice stuff. I'm sure that he would be flattered and probably glad to know that this one has wound up in such a good place!
    bikes and people w/ character. great story.
    now i know i want a pair of cook cranks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Though I doubt anyone here will be able to get the correct answer.
    i know!

    but i cheated


    when do i get a Potts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    what crank is that?
    Sugino GT. This bike was originally didn't get the full-tilt spec. I got the original hand written receipt with the bike as well. Everything is original except the handlebar, rear derailleur and tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Sugino GT. This bike was originally didn't get the full-tilt spec. I got the original hand written receipt with the bike as well. Everything is original except the handlebar, rear derailleur and tires.

    Sugino stuff is way too good for it's price.
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    Forgot I had a photo with new old tires swapped out on it. Little better with the tan colored skinwalls.


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    mike,
    what's the top tube size on that bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Forgot I had a photo with new old tires swapped out on it. Little better with the tan colored skinwalls.
    Yep it does look better with the skinwalls.

    The Tioga that was on it before is my favorite rear tire, so I can't say that it looked bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    Forgot I had a photo with new old tires swapped out on it. Little better with the tan colored skinwalls.

    Classy bike. Yeah, much better with the skin walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    mike,
    what's the top tube size on that bike?
    IIRC, it measured out at 22". It's a 19" frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    IIRC, it measured out at 22". It's a 19" frame.
    amazing.. a 19in w/ a 22in top tube. not even a 15in has a 22in top tube these days. even if stems have shrinked, wheelbase now is much longer.
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    Another Phoenix....

    Serial #99648, it's a 19 incher. The Yellow paint and decals are in really good shape.
    It came with period correct headset, hubs, and rims. The rest is pretty much junk I'll replace with XTR M952.

    I'm pretty stoked, DL knows how long I've been looking for one of these babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT
    Serial #99648, it's a 19 incher. The Yellow paint and decals are in really good shape.
    It came with period correct headset, hubs, and rims. The rest is pretty much junk I'll replace with XTR M952.

    I'm pretty stoked, DL knows how long I've been looking for one of these babies.

    Duuude pics!
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    let's see it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT
    Serial #99648, it's a 19 incher. The Yellow paint and decals are in really good shape.
    It came with period correct headset, hubs, and rims. The rest is pretty much junk I'll replace with XTR M952.

    I'm pretty stoked, DL knows how long I've been looking for one of these babies.

    Nice work procuring the rare 19 incher. I like yellow. Did Wild William help you out by chance on this one?

    Roller cam, disc or V brake? Suspension or Type II? Lets see the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Here is mine. It is at Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes. It used to belong to Slim of Slim's. It was the shop in Mill Valley were Swifts were sold.
    Which Slim's? The club in SF? Wouldn't that make it Boz Scaggs' old bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boy named SSue
    Which Slim's? The club in SF? Wouldn't that make it Boz Scaggs' old bike?
    Interestingly, to me at least, Slims was the shop where Steve and Mark tried to sell Swifts. I have the business card and need to scan it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Nice work procuring the rare 19 incher. I like yellow. Did Wild William help you out by chance on this one?

    Roller cam, disc or V brake? Suspension or Type II? Lets see the pics.

    - Actually, it's a looooooooong story. Short version : It was Byrdies but too big for him. He offered me the complete bike something like 8 or so years ago for $400 and I passed on it like a complete moron. It went to Rev. Sanders and pretty much sat preserved in his garage until he finally realized he's not a hardtail kinda guy and we worked out a bike trade & cash. Good deal for all. You know how it goes.....One leaves the fold and another comes in.

    I *think* this is one of the last frames Steve built for WTB because I did try to order a Ti or Steel frameset not long after passing on this bike the first go 'round but he had ceased production.

    I'll have to wheel her over sometime DL for your opinion on a couple things.

    Oh yeah, V Brake only and Suspension

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    Pic's...

    Pic's at this point would make many of you hardcore vintage guy's flip.
    Example : When we agreed on the deal the Rev. asked if I wanted the Crossmax's that were on it.

    So, it's not currently pic worthy.............yet.

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    Steve Potts

    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    September of 92 which is probably pretty close to the end of bikes with his name on the downtube....
    He is still making bikes as I assume you know. I just recently got my current Steve Potts in the form of a 29er. Not vintage (have my Mantis for that need) but still a sweet ride.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...ht=Steve+Potts

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT
    - Actually, it's a looooooooong story. Short version : It was Byrdies but too big for him. He offered me the complete bike something like 8 or so years ago for $400 and I passed on it like a complete moron. It went to Rev. Sanders and pretty much sat preserved in his garage until he finally realized he's not a hardtail kinda guy and we worked out a bike trade & cash. Good deal for all. You know how it goes.....One leaves the fold and another comes in.

    I *think* this is one of the last frames Steve built for WTB because I did try to order a Ti or Steel frameset not long after passing on this bike the first go 'round but he had ceased production.

    I'll have to wheel her over sometime DL for your opinion on a couple things.

    Oh yeah, V Brake only and Suspension

    oh yeah, that one. ive seen that one around for years. Nothin wrong with V brakes and suspension, although the rear toggle cam works super good. Mine has suspension and I really like it that way. Awesome trail bike. Wouldnt mind having one with a Type II and drop bars though someday. Theyre kind of a steel Cunningham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2
    He is still making bikes as I assume you know. I just recently got my current Steve Potts in the form of a 29er. Not vintage (have my Mantis for that need) but still a sweet ride.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...ht=Steve+Potts

    Beautiful!

    Did Steve do that stem too?

    Do you have any full drive side pictures of the bike too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2
    He is still making bikes as I assume you know. I just recently got my current Steve Potts in the form of a 29er. Not vintage (have my Mantis for that need) but still a sweet ride.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...ht=Steve+Potts

    yeah, that statement is a little unclear as I meant the bikes of the vintage type. yeah, been to Steve's shop numerous times. What a great shop. Post some pics of your new Potts, they qualify here as they have some retro-ness (if not just the name) to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    oh yeah, that one. ive seen that one around for years. Nothin wrong with V brakes and suspension, although the rear toggle cam works super good. Mine has suspension and I really like it that way. Awesome trail bike. Wouldnt mind having one with a Type II and drop bars though someday. Theyre kind of a steel Cunningham.
    - Yeah, I'm Ok with the Fork & V's but I REALLY want Roller/Toggle & a Type 2.
    Some day....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT
    - Yeah, I'm Ok with the Fork & V's but I REALLY want Roller/Toggle & a Type 2.
    Some day....

    just the fact that yours was once owned by Byrdman increases its value significantly.

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    That reminds me - I better nut & bolt check EVERYTHING before ridin' her around the hood for the sake of safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT
    That reminds me - I better nut & bolt check EVERYTHING before ridin' her around the hood for the sake of safety.
    why, did Rumpfy install anything on it?
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    here's a new old one.

    this is my daily rider/race bike that steve built in 04, got tired of the flat bars and it's slow around here, so, dropbars and for some reason i put bar cons on it. beets me, have quite a few pairs of Multi mounts but wanted to try something different i guess. they're pretty good, but now i know why some people cut down the flat section to get the shifter closer to the hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cursivearmy
    have quite a few pairs of Multi mounts.
    Now you're just being rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cursivearmy
    this is my daily rider/race bike that steve built in 04, got tired of the flat bars and it's slow around here, so, dropbars and for some reason i put bar cons on it. beets me, have quite a few pairs of Multi mounts but wanted to try something different i guess. they're pretty good, but now i know why some people cut down the flat section to get the shifter closer to the hands.

    as always, beautiful. Like the old look of the bar cons. Ive got some on my Willits and I like em (right side though is the less pretty modern SISers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    as always, beautiful. Like the old look of the bar cons. Ive got some on my Willits and I like em (right side though is the less pretty modern SISers).

    Willits? you know you better email over a picture to the shop addy.

    i'm going to require a visual aid good buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    why, did Rumpfy install anything on it?
    No.... But I didn't know Rumpfy went to the "Byrdman school of Texas mech-anix".
    DL, can you confirm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cursivearmy
    this is my daily rider/race bike that steve built in 04, got tired of the flat bars and it's slow around here, so, dropbars and for some reason i put bar cons on it. beets me, have quite a few pairs of Multi mounts but wanted to try something different i guess. they're pretty good, but now i know why some people cut down the flat section to get the shifter closer to the hands.
    i build my levers on the bars w/a very different manner:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Beautiful!

    Did Steve do that stem too?

    Do you have any full drive side pictures of the bike too?
    Stem is a Moots. No more pics on this computer.

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