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    So glad to finally get my old steed back! I am going to do a full rebuild on the bike before I hit the trails and figured I would document it. Since I'm pretty new to retro (is that possible?), I may have some questions for those with experience...

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    Before I remove the cork from my bars, does anyone know if you can still get Cinelli cork tape like what I would have put on back in the early 90s?

    Also, my Shimano hoods are dying. Any ideas on getting replacements, or should I tread lightly and no touchy?

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    Cinelli still makes cork tape but it seems just slightly different? I used them on my drop barred Salsa and fell once and cut them up so they don't seem very....substantial. Check them out at your local bike shop.

    Shimano hoods are found on ebay but there are also replacement hoods which are abundant.

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    Dude! Ripe Pipe! Now that's some obscure Canadian-style VRC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Dude! Ripe Pipe! Now that's some obscure Canadian-style VRC!
    Those forks are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Those forks are great.
    Ripe Pipe only made a couple of bikes - including a really cool BMX bike - they were Toronto-based, and more DeKerf than Brodie. That's a Ripe Pipe stem/fork combo IINM. One of the principals of Ripe Pipe now runs a cafe in Dundas: Domestique-Café Cyclo Sportif

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Ripe Pipe only made a couple of bikes - including a really cool BMX bike - they were Toronto-based, and more DeKerf than Brodie. That's a Ripe Pipe stem/fork combo IINM. One of the principals of Ripe Pipe now runs a cafe in Dundas: Domestique-Café Cyclo Sportif
    I was thinking the fork crown looks more like Chris's work. Thanks for the info!

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    That is one of the coolest forks I've seen on this forum. Really looking forward to the finished build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I was thinking the fork crown looks more like Chris's work. Thanks for the info!
    That's Storoniak all the way. They are early Ripe Pipe, before Krys started doing any brazing.

    Just a warning...this is going to take me a while to do cause my plate is still very full; however I will provide enough detail to make your head hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    They are early Ripe Pipe, before Krys started doing any brazing.
    To clarify: Domestique/Ripe Pipe = Krys Hines. The "Chris" in G's post I imagine to be Chris DeKerf. Ripe Pipe and DeKerf are contemporaries operating on different sides of the country and I'm not sure who did what first. At the time I thought RPs looked like really trick Bontragers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    To clarify: Domestique/Ripe Pipe = Krys Hines. The "Chris" in G's post I imagine to be Chris DeKerf.
    Yes I meant Dekerf. Whatever information you guys have, thanks! I did a google search and found a few things: This domestique doesn

    Found more on Krys than Ross Storoniak which is almost nada. The results were actually just a few things with this thread and the drop bar thread being two of them.

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    Ripe Pipe was pre Internet and really small, so yeah almost no info. I will try to hook up with Ross again and photograph some of his personal bikes.

    The bottom of the forks are Steve Potts all the way. Buddysnack's Brodie Restoration-imageuploadedbytapatalk1359921697.467722.jpg

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    Please do. That would be awesome.

    what is lined up in jars on the wall....

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    Spices. Labeled, alphabetized.

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    Not to take anything away from the whole package, but that may be the coolest fork ever.
    Need: McMahon brake for roller cam mounts, Mountain Goat fork.

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    That is just a fantastic looking fork!

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    Not to beat a dead horse, but that fork is just awesome! Stem too....custom made for the bike or off the shelf painted to match? re: cinelli tape...still looks the same but has a slightly "springier" quality to it than it used to. Makes for much more forgiving wrapping (less likely to tear when stretching around the brake lever).
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    The stem was custom made/fitted for the bike. I used a Cunningham Fit-Finder stem for a couple weeks until my set up felt dialled.

    The bar clamp was custom milled by Harv Cameron, a Toronto local who built some cool aluminum bikes, forks and the first bar/stem combos I ever saw. John Calladine used to sell them at Cyclelogic.

    I love the inset bolt set up, which I used a ti-bolt for. The logo was designed by Nick Kooji who was a mutual friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    John Calladine used to sell them at Cyclelogic.

    There's a name that brings up (neutral) memories.

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    Here I am back in 1990 (I think) with the original paint job and setup. I taught a friend how to fix his bike, so he sewed me a top to match my bike, which got repainted shortly afterwards.

    I used to ride 2.2 Kevlar Fattrax for years. I really loved those tires. Notice the Alpinestars. Oh...and they Spyder tights in case you missed those


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Here I am back in 1990 (I think) with the original paint job and setup. I taught a friend how to fix his bike, so he sewed me a top to match my bike, which got repainted shortly afterwards.

    I used to ride 2.2 Kevlar Fattrax for years. I really loved those tires. Notice the Alpinestars. Oh...and they Spyder tights in case you missed those

    Classic!

    Hey Colin, I assume that is the same bike that was on display at Cafe Domestique?

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    Yep. It was on display, with a totally cheesy old man seat that my dad used for stealth purposes.

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    I remember seeing it hanging on the wall in the summer. Didn't click in till now. Gotta love concussions.

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    I can't see da pictureeee.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I can't see da pictureeee.....
    Any of the pictures???

    How about this one now:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Any of the pictures???

    How about this one now:
    Oh! I see you now. heehee. Nice spideypants.

    I like those colors too. Basically, your bike is just pretty awesome.

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    Nice----the original colors were great too. Sweet bike!
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Quote Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y View Post
    Nice----the original colors were great too. Sweet bike!
    It was a tough call to paint the bike as the original paint was really cool.

    I really wanted rollercams for front brakes, and I was planning on riding my bike across Canada and needed braze-ons added to the frame and fork. It just made sense to paint it. Maybe one day I will do a retro repaint on another bike...

    I did try to ride across Canada, but hurt my knee in Batchawana Bay and had to turn around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
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    I can now imagine the detail this thread will have.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Baby got a new pair of shoes today!

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    They were mail order. Does anyone know which is older? This was the closest to retro I could find.

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    Baby got a new pair of shoes today!

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    They were mail order. Does anyone know which is older? This was the closest to retro I could find.
    Pretty sure the rear is the older production. The front has a folding cable bead (braided steel) which is not that old.

    Check the country of origin. The front is likely China and the rear Taiwan.
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    And my go fast bike got some longer legs. 180mm!
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    First flight remade some tires. Very nice folding timbuk IIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Pretty sure the rear is the older production. The front has a folding cable bead (braided steel) which is not that old.

    Check the country of origin. The front is likely China and the rear Taiwan.
    They are both steel braids, and both from China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    First flight remade some tires. Very nice folding timbuk IIs.
    I read about that, but I can't say I have any love or memories of the Timbuks. I seem to remember them being spec'd on somewhat crappy bikes. They do look a lot like Ground Controls.

    I figured older style WTB would go with the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    They are both steel braids, and both from China.
    No older than ~6 years then, though the design is from ~'92.

    The nice thing about the Timbuk IIs is the natural color skinwall. Overall, I liked them better than the Vraptors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    No older than ~6 years then, though the design is from ~'92.

    The nice thing about the Timbuk IIs is the natural color skinwall. Overall, I liked them better than the Vraptors.
    I saw some tan sidewall Vraptors on ebay, but I got these really cheap so I figured I would give them a try. I had some black sidewall Porcupines on the Brodie years ago, so I think black is OK, or am I riding some slapped together resto-mod now?

    Interesting that you liked the Timbuks more... Anyone else?

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    Don't worry about your tires so much. Ride, ride, ride.

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    I can still get original fronts. Rears are a push, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The nice thing about the Timbuk IIs is the natural color skinwall. Overall, I liked them better than the Vraptors.
    I agree with Shiggy. I really like the Timbuk IIs. (Why are they not sponsoring our forum? :P) I do like the weirwolfs as far as WTB tires are concerned.

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    Oh fudge...

    My BB seems to be seized. I worked on it a little bit, but t'aint budging. Any suggestions? I haven't tried any anti-seize stuff yet, but I'm doubting that stuff works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Oh fudge...

    My BB seems to be seized. I worked on it a little bit, but t'aint budging. Any suggestions? I haven't tried any anti-seize stuff yet, but I'm doubting that stuff works.
    Mavic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Oh fudge...

    My BB seems to be seized. I worked on it a little bit, but t'aint budging. Any suggestions? I haven't tried any anti-seize stuff yet, but I'm doubting that stuff works.

    Give the cup a few good taps with a hammer and carefully drip some sort of anti-seize in the threads. After some time, get some buddies and try to get two or three pin spanners on there and tr to get it to come loose. You can also get some nice vice grips or channel locks (if you no longer care about the BB) and grab it by the threaded part of it if the pin spanners don't work.

    And then there's the torch method but I don't think you'll need that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Mavic?
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    I prefer the Timbuk II's to that particular WTB combo myself as well. Especially the front Veloci...oof. Right up there with a Dart in the sucky front tire department. Timbuk II's might predate your bike, but they have the nice tan side wall, pretty light, and a tread pattern similar to the Ground Control, which is great.

    Personal preference thing of course.
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    Syncros:

    Seek: Koski Trailmaster. Breezer Series 2 or 3. Cunningham Racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I prefer the Timbuk II's to that particular WTB combo myself as well. Especially the front Veloci...oof. Right up there with a Dart in the sucky front tire department. Timbuk II's might predate your bike, but they have the nice tan side wall, pretty light, and a tread pattern similar to the Ground Control, which is great.

    Personal preference thing of course.
    I thought Timbuk IIs are from 88, which would be right on time. I never rode the darts...I just have a soft spot in my heart for anything WTB. Maybe I will consider a set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
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    Nice. My bearing are shot. I'm hoping they are easy to replace if I can get the dang thing out. Think I'll hold a BB loosening party with 2 of my closest friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Think I'll hold a BB loosening party with 2 of my closest friends.
    hahaha! Good one, Colin. And yeah. I'm not trying to drum up business for FFB but those tires are great. I started off with them on one bike and now they're on 3.

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    Totally appreciate the thoughts girlon.

    Just finished building up my roadie bike. I bet you've never seen one of these:

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    This was also made by a high school friend who worked for Ripe Pipe at the end of their run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Totally appreciate the thoughts girlon.

    Just finished building up my roadie bike. I bet you've never seen one of these:

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    This was also made by a high school friend who worked for Ripe Pipe at the end of their run.
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    Holly head tube Batman.
    That's a man sized bike son.

    Actually, I'm experimenting with bigger is better, and comfort is king. Doc Oc (from Octto) used to design for Cervelo. He's big on bigger frames and longer cranks, and I'm following him on this one. I'm 6'1" and this is a 61 with 180 cranks. The bike is sooo comfy and balanced.

    Plus, the Brodie has a big head tube, so I'm keeping it in the family.

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    A var #13 pin spanner, a stein fixed cup tool(slip a headset wrench between the 2 to keep things snug), and some elbow grease
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    A var #13 pin spanner, a stein fixed cup tool(slip a headset wrench between the 2 to keep things snug), and some elbow grease
    For the fixed cup I made my own tool to hold it in place for use with a breaker bar. I'd imagine that's similar to the stein?

    I think the Velociraptors handle fine and are much more classic than a Timbuk II. The front Velociraptor doesn't seem to brake as well as other treads but does seem to corner alright. I'd say Timbuk II's are in the same mediocre to good category when really pushed. And yes, they came on lower end stuff back in the day like Diamond Backs, etc.

    And I like the road bike and the longer cranks. Lennard Zinn specializes in bikes for tall guys and he's all about raised BB's to accommodate 200mm+ cranks. Makes sense. I think the XXL bikes also need longer stays to keep things in proportion. All about the weight distribution and right now the front center gets longer and the rear stays the same. And maybe the road world will get a new wheel size for the big guys like mtbs got.

    Oh, and cool Brodie! Can't wait to see it built up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I prefer the Timbuk II's to that particular WTB combo myself as well. Especially the front Veloci...oof. Right up there with a Dart in the sucky front tire department. Timbuk II's might predate your bike, but they have the nice tan side wall, pretty light, and a tread pattern similar to the Ground Control, which is great.

    Personal preference thing of course.
    Definitely personal preference. The Dart SC 2.2 is still one of my all time favorite tires (but it will not fit in my '86 MB-1 fork). Did not like the Dart HC 2.1 or the VRaptors
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister View Post
    A var #13 pin spanner, a stein fixed cup tool(slip a headset wrench between the 2 to keep things snug), and some elbow grease
    My Shimano pin wrench with a stack of washers and the crank bolt has worked for me in pinch too. If all else fails, make some flats and find a bench vice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    I thought Timbuk IIs are from 88, which would be right on time. I never rode the darts...I just have a soft spot in my heart for anything WTB. Maybe I will consider a set.
    The earliest ad I have found for the Timbuk II tires is April of 1988. They were still in distributors catalogs as late as 1994 and were probably still hanging around for a couple of years past that.

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    Who doesn't love photos??? Got some work done on the resto today:

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    I should have known you would weigh every single part down to the cable hanger. hahaha!

    Good job on the cleaning, BS!

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    OK, so now here are my dilemas:

    1. Seized bottom bracket - I'm going to take this to my local bike shop wiz in hopes he can get things moving. He may actually have some NOS Syncros if the BB has to go down.



    2. Bearings in rear hubs are loose. They are the old design and non-adjustable. There is another thread that suggests how to fix this, and I got a contact at WTB that may be able to get me the model of bearing I'll need to fix this. My only concern is can you make a non-adjustable old school WTB hub adjustable?

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    3. The bearings in my deraillieur pulleys are also shot. Does anyone know if these can be replaced?

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    4. I have 2 versions of Speedmasters. In the older ones (with the larger pulley) the bearings are kinda rough. I may just leave it be, but I wonder if they can be replaced as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    I should have known you would weigh every single part down to the cable hanger. hahaha!

    Good job on the cleaning, BS!
    The funny thing is that I have no idea what just about anything I own weighs, including myself!

    I figured what could be more fun than documentation! Especially when I'm injured and its cold outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    OK, so now here are my dilemas:

    1. Seized bottom bracket - I'm going to take this to my local bike shop wiz in hopes he can get things moving. He may actually have some NOS Syncros if the BB has to go down.



    2. Bearings in rear hubs are loose. They are the old design and non-adjustable. There is another thread that suggests how to fix this, and I got a contact at WTB that may be able to get me the model of bearing I'll need to fix this. My only concern is can you make a non-adjustable old school WTB hub adjustable?

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    Any help would be much appreciated!
    You can pop up the seals on all your bearings and clean/re-grease and if still bad they can all be replaced. Sometimes old grease can get dry and chunky. Just revived some roller cam bearings today actually!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Any tips for removing the seals?
    Dentist tools.

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    I only have inquisition tools. A little less precision, a lot more get 'er done.

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    Just found a photo of me leaving to ride from Toronto to Vancouver in 1992 on my Brodie. Notice the high fashion look with all the right trimmings. Also, notice the tasty bun in my handlebar bag. Oh to be 19 and foolish again.

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    Didn't everyone here go through a Spyder tight phase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
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    Hey Guys,

    So I finally picked up my bike from a shop that was able to remove my bottom bracket. In the process, one side of it was destroyed, but he happened to have one side of a Syncros bb!

    I'm now in the process of finding just a couple of parts in order to rebuild. I need:
    -Black Cinelli Cork Tape
    -New hoods for my Dia Compe RGC 200 levers
    -Cables for brakes and shifters
    -Brake Pads

    I imagine these are generally easy to come by, but since this is my first rebuild, I would love some advice on how best to address a few resto points. My goal is to have a relatively period correct bike that I can ride on the trails. I'm wondering how many of you folks deal with some of the issues of restoration - mainly do you go high dollar NOS, or get to close enough?

    My tires for example - I got some Velociraptors because they are pretty close to the era. I suppose I could have found some NOS other tires, or got the timbuk IIs, but mostly I am not too fussed about this point.

    The brake lever hoods - I found some NOS hoods on e-bay for $100, which seems a bit nutty to me. Genuine Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe Black Hoods RG 20 Anatomic L R | eBay They are the ergo hoods which I want, but I can also get some non ergo dia compe hoods for $15.

    Then there are the cables - find NOS or just new cables? Chain? Brake pads?

    Basically, do you go NOS for higher wear or rubber parts? Should I give a shit? I am totally undecided.

    OH...and if anyone has a pile of WTB pads they have to spare...

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    [QUOTE=Buddysnack;10947726]I'm wondering how many of you folks deal with some of the issues of restoration - mainly do you go high dollar NOS, or get to close enough?

    Basically, do you go NOS for higher wear or rubber parts? Should I give a shit? I am totally undecided.[QUOTE]

    It really depends what your objective is. The longer I do this the less satisfied I am with the end result if I know I half-asses it. I generally don't use NOS because I ride my bikes and its usually not worth the up charge over nice used parts, but I try to keep it all as correct as possible. Even cable housings should be correct, "Accushift" housings for XC Pro etc. Luckily those are still fairly easy to find. Chains I'll usually give a pass on correctness. Tires I try to have correct ones (either original or repop) for picture taking, but swap them out for riding. Same for saddles, my rump has certain preferences that don't always fit in the "correct" category. But again it depends what your objective is, and what you're happy with.
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    Thanks Muddy...this helps.

    Some things I don't feel too anal about. For example, I put a Flite saddle on my bike in 1990-1 (my bike is an 88). I also have a short cage derailleur, which I believe was an 1990 option, and some old XTR housing which didn't come out until 92.

    I will be bothered by modern brake hoods for sure...

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    A little Living room restoration. Almost done. Buddysnack's Brodie Restoration-imageuploadedbytapatalk1390755991.728170.jpg


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    Yup...that's our Shaggy pooch. He's actually a great trail dog.

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    My LBS had Scott Mathauser brake pads, which I thought would look great with the roller cams.

    I remember always having trouble with reverse toe-in on the rear brakes, and this still seems to be the case. Does anyone know if this can be adjusted? Also, I can't remember the ideal positioning for the cam. Has proper speedmaster set up been discussed here before? I couldn't find it on my brief search.


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    My LBS had Scott Mathauser brake pads, which I thought would look great with the roller cams.

    I remember always having trouble with reverse toe-in on the rear brakes, and this still seems to be the case. Does anyone know if this can be adjusted? Also, I can't remember the ideal positioning for the cam. Has proper speedmaster set up been discussed here before? I couldn't find it on my brief search.


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    I can't really see what's going on with the springs...are they on backwards? Can you take off the bridge and take the photo again? I think roller cam adjustment has been discussed in several threads here but I don't have the ability to do a search at the moment....

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    A couple more pics. I can remove the bridge too.


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    A google search will net you the results your after re: set up. Key word roller cam also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    A google search will net you the results your after re: set up. Key word roller cam also.
    Searching helped me get the lumpy cam in my 454 set straight.

    ...and then there is Sheldon.

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    It's really the toe in that I'm trying to sort out. A friend said you can bend the brake arms...but yikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    ...A friend said you can bend the brake arms...but yikes!
    friend?

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    I know right??? So is there a way to adjust toe-in? I know I could file the brake pads, or try bending the brake pad posts, but beyond that, I don't see another easy option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    I know right??? So is there a way to adjust toe-in? I know I could file the brake pads, or try bending the brake pad posts, but beyond that, I don't see another easy option.
    Cheapest, easiest, quickest solution IMO...file the pads.

    Another solution would be to send the whole bike to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Cheapest, easiest, quickest solution IMO...file the pads.

    Another solution would be to send the whole bike to me.
    hmmm... tempting.

    I just missed out on some mint Cyclepro Motivators on ebay. My favourite tires were always 2.2 Fat Trax, and these seemed like a good alternative for a block style tire with tan sidewalls. Still keeping my eyes open.

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    finally finished! I'll post more pics in the next week. Now we just need some rideable trails here.


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    Nice teaser photo. Everyone loves pictures. Congrats on finishing the project.
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    That's gotta be one of the coolest Brodie's I've seen. Very nice!

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    Please post bigger, clearer photos. Great looking bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan lee View Post
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    Hey Stan Lee,

    Just waiting to get my better camera for work. I'll take a ton of photos and post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
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    Just waiting to get my better camera for work. I'll take a ton of photos and post.

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    Great bike. Have always loved those old Brodies.

    As for the toe in, they should hit flat or your bosses must be off? Nice job on the build.

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    Now I am excited to take her for a spin... Our trails in Ontario still have snow and loads of mud. It may be a few weeks.

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    Very nice.
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    Superb!! What a wonderful bike.
    Somec is like the digital Zunow
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    Spinning Wheels! Had a Jet Fuel and walked by on Sunday - first time in 7 or 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
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    Good eye mailyfats! This bike used to belong to Barry from Spinning Wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Good eye mailyfats! This bike used to belong to Barry from Spinning Wheels.
    Did it used to be orange? Barry's went to Brian (IIRC), then to you?

    I think Barry still puts in a few days a week at Chain Reaction.

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    nicely done

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    one of the best bikes i have seen here so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Did it used to be orange? Barry's went to Brian (IIRC), then to you?

    I think Barry still puts in a few days a week at Chain Reaction.
    Go to post #21 on this thread and you will see the original colours. I used to go to highschool with Brian. I think he bought Barry's Ibis or IRD or something, or at least built up an almost identical bike.

    Before this Brodie I had a Kona Explosif, and before that a 1986 Fisher Montare I got from Cyclelogic. It got stolen in Halifax

    I should swing by CR sometime and say hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    one of the best bikes i have seen here so far.
    Thanks colker1.

    People thought I was a weirdo for riding this bike back in the day. I loved going through the non-mainstream customization process. Guess I had good taste for an 18 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Go to post #21 on this thread and you will see the original colours. I used to go to highschool with Brian. I think he bought Barry's Ibis or IRD or something, or at least built up an almost identical bike.

    Before this Brodie I had a Kona Explosif, and before that a 1986 Fisher Montare I got from Cyclelogic. It got stolen in Halifax

    I should swing by CR sometime and say hi.
    Barry always had the nicest bikes... Well, you've done a great job. I'm really envious - that's the mountain bike I'd like more than any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1 View Post
    i still don't get how you guys ride w/ the brake levers so high on thehbars in the dirt. Mine are way closer to the bar ends.
    Hey colker1,

    Totally agree. I am going to move the brake levers down a bit. Thought of your comments on my last ride.

    Thanks!

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    Buddysnack's Brodie Restoration-20160608_140754.jpg

    Found this picture that was taken just before driving 21 hours straight from Toronto to Halifax (circa 1992). Notice the custom roof rack. Thule had nothing on me.

    Not sure how to flip the image, if anyone can help.

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    Were the drop bars on there then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleCentury View Post
    Were the drop bars on there then?
    Yup. Installed in 1990 I believe. Maybe 89. Look carefully.

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    Buddysnack's Brodie Restoration-20160608_140754.jpg
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    Please tell me you kept the rover too.

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    Now I can see it. My mobile device kept flipping it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datmony View Post
    Please tell me you kept the rover too.
    Unfortunately she's long gone.

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    Anyone on this forum running the old fat trax tubulars? Just got these for my newish rig...


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    So I'm sitting on my friends porch, enjoying a beer, and somehow Brodies come up as a topic of conversation. I tell him about mine, and he says "yeah, I still have my old Romax too..." really? Yup. He has a 1991 or 1992, #804 (mine is 384). Who knew.





    Btw I may be putting mind up for sale to finance a new Cyclo-cross bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post






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    That Romax is COOL.

    Plenty of patina, just the way I like them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    Btw I may be putting mind up for sale to finance a new Cyclo-cross bike.

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    I thought you'd already sold it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I thought you'd already sold it?
    The offer was in a good ballpark, but the timing was bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    I thought you'd already sold it?
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Me too.
    I was waiting for you Mainlyfats!

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    Like (mainly fats getting the Brodie)
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    The #804 is more likely a 1989 model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFAK View Post
    The #804 is more likely a 1989 model.
    You sure? I'm 384 and I'm an 1988. That would mean that Paul was braising up at least a frame per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    You sure? I'm 384 and I'm an 1988. That would mean that Paul was braising up at least a frame per day.

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    You mean Mike? I might be talking crazy talk, but I think Mike Truelove did most of Brodie's brazing.

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    I thought Paul made all the Romaxs. I could be wrong though.

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    In 1988 I believe it was:

    Romax = Fillet Brazed = God
    Climbmax = Tig = Priest

    After that came Catalysts and Sovereigns...but I don't know much about those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    In 1988 I believe it was:

    Romax = Fillet Brazed = God
    Climbmax = Tig = Priest

    After that came Catalysts and Sovereigns...but I don't know much about those.
    Yup. Catalysts and Sovereigns were later. Romax was the premium, higher-finished product over the more affordable Climbmax. They were both available full custom in the early days though.

    And you - Buddysnack - are probably right about Paul building as I'm not sure when Mike actually came aboard at Brodie. I do know that by 1989-ish Paul was only doing the TIG welding - doubtless to save time and Mike did all the brazing.

    Anyway, I should shut my mouth because I don't really care. This is my FAVOURITE BIKE PRETTY MUCH EVER. Painted by Tony Beek who I used to have coffee with and who painted a couple of my frames gone by, sold out of the shop I used to work in, with an awesome fork and stem from an old friend's long-gone company AND it was previously owned by one of the formative men in my life. It is 100% win.

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    I feel like I should give it to you Mainlyfats. Now if only Santa would drop off a rad CX bike down my chimney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddysnack View Post
    You sure? I'm 384 and I'm an 1988. That would mean that Paul was braising up at least a frame per day.

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    Pretty sure. One of mine is #1014 built Feb. 1990.

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    Missing this bike... Hope it went to a good home. Barry passed last year and I think about him often.

    He took this photo of a bunch of us - Krys there with two beers - at the Spinning Wheels closing party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Missing this bike... Hope it went to a good home. Barry passed last year and I think about him often.

    He took this photo of a bunch of us - Krys there with two beers - at the Spinning Wheels closing party.
    Oh wow...I had no idea Barry passed. I don't believe he was all that old. I hope his family is OK. He was a force at Spinning Wheels and an overall cool guy (although from what I can remember he didn't use turn signals while driving!).

    Bike went to a cool guy in the US. I hope he is enjoying it.

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