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    Bontrager reproduction decals - see pics here!

    Sorry for the delay, pneumonia and work made it difficult to get back to everyone till now. I want to thank Gil for sending these off so everyone could see exactly what they were getting before paying.
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    I took pictures of the reproduction panels (CX, bl/wh & yel/wh) for your review. I also took some close ups of originals I have for comparison sake.

    My initial thought is they look OK. They look very good if your standing next to the bike checking it out, but if you get real, real close and inspect them you'll notice the edges aren't as sharp as originals. Also, since these are digitally printed as opposed to screen printed grey/silver is a little washed out up close. From a foot away though all is good.
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    Pic 1 - CX Bdot (reproduction)<O</O
    Pic 2 - Bdot (original)<O</O
    Pic 3 - OR Bdot (reproduction)<O</O
    Pic 4 - OR Paw Print (reproduction)
    <O</OPic 5 - Race USA</ST1 (original)</O
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    more pics

    Pic 6 - Race USA (original)
    Pic 7 - CX panels (reproduction)<O</O
    Pic 8 - OR panels (reproduction)<O</O
    Pic 9 - OR panels (reproduction)
    Pic 10 - OR <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<ST1USA</ST1</st1:country-region> (reproduction)
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    sweet baby jesus

    time to figure out what colors i want big ups to all involved.
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    nice. was the bleeding a result from printing or was the source file rastered like that? vector files?

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    Basically guys its one of the problems with digitally printed files, all my artworks are Vector files, so nice clean crisp edges, no chance of pixilation due to poor files.

    The bit that lets it down is the method of printing, as Hoss rightly says from 10"-12" away they are fine, however if you are to look very closely the edges are not the clean crisp finish of a screen print.

    I have been a screen printer for the last 20 years and have seen a lot on changes and if the orders were large enough I would screen print a batch, however you would not have the flexibility of colour and design choice.

    At least this way everybody knows what they are getting and can decide if they are still interested

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden
    nice. was the bleeding a result from printing or was the source file rastered like that? vector files?
    I'm the wrong person to ask, I'm just the middle man. Perhaps Gil or someone else here can answer that.
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    Do you have ball park pricing?

    I think I'm still down for a set, maybe two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    maybe two.
    two sets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    two sets?
    The purple Race's yellow set is a bit trashed. If they're cheap enough, I'll have one on hand as an extra.

    And a $20 Privateer frame I picked up at VeloSwap that a buddy is repainting for me. Fake Bonty OR for my kid brother.
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    gil,

    would the ti lite decals be better or worse since they don't have the panel?

    thanks.
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    The Ti-lite ones would be as the originals, they are a total different process

    Check out the post ~ "Bringing back life to a cracked Ti Bonty"

    Will confirm a price to Hoss in the next day or so

    Cheers

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    There was a sample in the first post about these about some Road Lite decals...Are those still a possibility?

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    Hoss, I'm on board for 1 set of CX decals in the original red panel color (as shown); possibly one more CX set in an alternative color scheme depending on final price. Keep me in the loop.
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    Two sets here too....

    Hoss,
    Please include me on the wish list.

    I'll probably want to pick up two sets -- I'm thinking one each OR and a Race (Is that right -- Square edge and dart respectively?)

    Cheers~
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    any word on the price?
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    OK everyone, here's the pricing I have so far. Digitally printed sets are 15 GBP or 30 USD plus shipping. Shipping from the UK for the 3 sets Gil sent me was ~$6. Since this was so cheap all panels will ship from the UK.

    Gil may also be able to include a screen printed silver or black on clear “Handmade in” seat tube decal if there are enough orders. I also asked him about screen printed CX panels since most everyone will want the same color.

    Here is a list of everyone that contacted me for decals. If I missed someone please let me know.

    hollister
    rumpfy
    gotdirt
    richieb
    el-cid
    joe steel
    laffeaux
    jpo
    jack lantern
    c.l.
    donkekus
    jeroen
    grumpyone
    veloculture
    williwoods
    bikenerd

    Please use my email address (hoss.allison at gmail dot com) to let me know what you decals you still want and I'll get with Gil to work out the details. Do not send a private message.
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    Thanks for you help Hoss

    If anybody else is interested please PM me or email me at
    gil(AT)thecycleshed(DOT)co(DOT)uk

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    Darn it... I just saw this thread. Is it too late to get on the list??

    I need a set (top tube, down tube, head badge) with the angled borders (1995-ish vintage) for a RACE with black frame. I think those I've seen with white panels and black/silver letters would be best.

    Can I still get on board?

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    I Just built this one that I have looked at for a while. The decals are shot and I would like a new set. It's a great bike. I waited for it for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun K
    I'd like to know too. I have 2 frames that need decals soon. Was this a one-time thing or do we have a second chance?
    Actually... I have a neighbor who makes labels, decals, etc. for a living. I'm fixing up an old Schwinn for him, and talked to him about the possibility of fabricating some convincing Bontrager decals. I'll post again when I know more. He says he can make very durable, high quality decals, price being dependent on how many colors etc.

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    Isnt there a copywrite issue making these decals. I know its a fine line because usually fonts and decoration thereof isnt copywriteable, not in 3D graphic arts I know, but your using logo's, designs and whatnot, and this is tangible goods. I myself am amature graphic artist, I use photoshop among several other programs, and what I do is texture wire meshes for 3D models, I know if copyed someone elses work - even if I did the work on my own but it look like I didnt a person(s) could file a DMCA (digital media copywrite act) against me and have my work removed - and if I persisted it could eventually go to court. Serious and professional graphic artist in the graphic arts community are pretty uptight about that sorta stuff, and I dont see why it would be much different in the cycling industry.

    Nice work by the way - , and assuming you do have permission to do this, just a suggestion, whatever program your using be sure to have your antialiasing enabled, it will help with the jagged edges.
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    I'm looking for a Head Tube Badge

    The rest of the decals just get thrashed because I use the bike hard. My badge looked like this.
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    Found a decal on my old tool box

    I shot it and worked it up in Photoshop. I wish I knew Illustrator so things could be smoother but I think I have something I can use. Any thoughts on how to reproduce this in a media which will hold up to the weather and use?
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    Man, that looks great.

    I need a full set personally; was digging around and found this set:

    https://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c...1995_proof.jpg

    https://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c...mples_RevA.jpg

    Which aren't too bad; just need them for my mountain frame

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    A Mystery rider from San Jose

    Sent me a badge and it is perfect! Too cool.

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    I just replaced the TT decal on my Race Lite frame...





    https://yojimg.net/bike/bontrager.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimgskoop
    I just replaced the TT decal on my Race Lite frame...





    https://yojimg.net/bike/bontrager.php
    That looks great; can I ask where you got them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrios
    That looks great; can I ask where you got them?
    I only replaced the top-tube decal. I "recreated" that one using hand-cut bits of adhesive vinyl decal material in silver, yellow, and black colors, which I bought at

    http://tiptopsigns.com/Blank-Self-Ad...ial-p-314.html

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    Nice job

    Looks great.

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    Man, I would LOVE to have a set or two. Getting ready to break down my Bontrager, get it Powder Coated and rebuild it. Either going with the same original color or a matte Tan. Get a set like what's pictures below, and a set with Blue instead of Yellow Bands/"B" head badge/"OR" lettering/Bontrager lettering...

    Anyone still making these for the masses?

    Current sticker/frame color:


    Head Badge:

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    original bontrager decals

    are made by Nick Dawes, seipswich.co.uk
    Got the info from Keith Bontrager himself
    - keep your Bontrager original!

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    Just for info's sake (I haven't ordered from them yet, but have done a bit of emailing) I contacted a company called Bikesdecals.com and asked them if they could do up a set of Bontrager decals (I just picked up a Race). Within 24 hours, they had this ( http://www.bikesdecals.com/90s-bontr...28f98ba04f693d ) listed on their website. $26 shipped.

    I will be ordering after getting the powdercoating done, but if anyone orders before me, please post about the experience/quality. They're from Uruguay, so the communication has been choppy, but very quick.

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    I hate to say it and I can assure you it's not meant dig against them but it you are going to reproduce an original decal is it not the generally idea to match it as closely as possible...

    The text size and font are totally wrong, way to heavy and oversized and you seem to be limited to one colour combination, I guess you get what you pay for...

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