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    My GoPro 5mp wide vids

    Fun little camera

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    Nice!

    Good thing you didn't have a hole in your shorts on the 3rd video! ;-o

    Nice to see a change up in the POV's
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    I've been having a blast with mine also. I'm working on some different mounts around the bike as well. GoPro was supposed to have released the "Chesty" chest mounted harness this month but I still haven't seen it. Have fun, Matt.

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    I jerry rigged mine using a night rider universal bar mount. I may still get the gopro bar mount...probably more rigid. Also, the AAA NiMH batteries don't work in cold weather. It's documented...but I'm just confirming that. I didn't have any lithium's, so I just did this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    I jerry rigged mine using a night rider universal bar mount. I may still get the gopro bar mount...probably more rigid. Also, the AAA NiMH batteries don't work in cold weather. It's documented...but I'm just confirming that. I didn't have any lithium's, so I just did this:
    Slick idea, how cold was it?

    here's my contribution. still working on the sticky mount placements, but I like fork view ones so I'll probably do that.

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    not sure how cold it was exactly...but my hydro bite valve kept freezing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    not sure how cold it was exactly...but my hydro bite valve kept freezing up.
    good lord, I'd say cold enough. Be careful doing that with the o-ring, don't want to over heat and damage it.

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    nah, those chemical foot warmers don't get that hot.

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    sweet vids!!

    cytoe that behind the foot POV is probably one of my favorites!! the "camera doesnt do it justice" effect seems like it is greatly reduced.
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    one more from yesturday's ride...

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    I gotta try some of these cool angles and mounting locations. I just got mine and made a couple videos. I tried three different mounting spots. I'm thinking that the chest mount might be cool when its available.

    HIJACK, sorry if this is hijacking this thread, but here are a couple of my tries with the same camera.
    Editing is a pain in the ass! (using microsoft movie maker)

    50 Year trail in AZ
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    Trail 100 area AZ
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    Red Mountain, AZ
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    omg i want a GoPro now!!!! are they worth it?? which one is best for mountain biking? do i have to buy extra mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by semperfi658
    omg i want a GoPro now!!!! are they worth it?? which one is best for mountain biking? do i have to buy extra mounts?
    Get the helmet hero one and it will come with a helmet mount. I got the bar mount as well that is fun to play with on a seatpost or the handlebars.
    I think its worth it. They are half as much as the competitors and a tenth the cost of fancy systems yet the difference in quality is not very noticeable. I actually returned my Vholdr to get a cheap GoPro one.
    For fast sports like mtb and dirt bikes I'd get the wide version. its a fish eye lense so you can see more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOAZ
    a tenth the cost of fancy systems yet the difference in quality is not very noticeable.
    False.

    Why do people post this kind of nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    False.

    Why do people post this kind of nonsense?
    haha fella. Relax. It is a tenth of the cost of some systems. And I can't notice the difference. All true then. Although, I know to someone who sells or knows a ton about them the difference must look HUGE. Just not to a novice like me though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOAZ
    haha fella. Relax. It is a tenth of the cost of some systems. And I can't notice the difference. All true then. Although, I know to someone who sells or knows a ton about them the difference must look HUGE. Just not to a novice like me though!
    I am relaxed fella. It's hard not to be relaxed when you're laughing like I am.

    Yes, the difference in quality is very noticeable and the "tenth of the cost of some sytmes" bit is good for even more laughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    I am relaxed fella. It's hard not to be relaxed when you're laughing like I am.

    Yes, the difference in quality is very noticeable and the "tenth of the cost of some sytmes" bit is good for even more laughs.
    I'll bet the OP had 100% as much fun as he would have with a more expensive camera so who really gives a rats ass in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason B.
    I'll bet the OP had 100% as much fun as he would have with a more expensive camera so who really gives a rats ass in the end?
    The discussion is not about how much fun was had, it's about the quality of the video. They are two distinctly different topics.

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    the difference is monogod would have composed a 20 minute diatribe to say that. i haven't seen him post in a while...

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    the video quality of the gopro is good enough for short clips. The wide angle seems to make the video look more stable. I tried using my Creative Flip on my helmet...but the fov was too narrow and the video seemed like it was all over the place. Anyway, if you are just uploading to youtube (yuck) or some other video hosting site, the gopro is good enough...I don't watch it on my tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOAZ
    I'm thinking that the chest mount might be cool when its available.
    Here's video of the GoPro chest mounted:

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    False.

    Why do people post this kind of nonsense?
    Wow, you really love an argument don't you Pete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2_Tires
    Wow, you really love an argument don't you Pete?
    It's called a discussion. This is a discussion board after all, isn't it?

    You see, it works like this sometimes:

    Someone posts something that doesn't make sense.
    Someone else replies about that something that doesn't make sense, and the discussion continues from there.

    Get it? Do you have any more scintillating questions, or perhaps something to discuss?

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    Yes!! There you go again I love it!! People like you are fun to bug cause its so easy, lol. Can't wait to see your next post, lmao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2_Tires
    People like you are fun to bug cause its so easy, lol.
    ???

    What makes you think that you are bugging me?

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    I have a HD camera that I mounted on a helmet, a VIO POV.1, and a GoPro Wide.

    The video of the GoPro has much less noticable shake than the HD camera mounted on my helmet. I'm not sure whether this is because the field of view is so large on the GoPro, or because the HD camera is heavier.

    If it is a sunny day with a blue sky, I usually just take the GoPro. On the internet, the videos look great and they even look great on my big screen TV. I don't take the HD out much for mountain biking because:

    (1) I don't like being restricted to just helmet cam footage (I like chest mounts and bike mounts more). I've even mounted the GoPro on a boom to get different odd shots. The flexibility is awesome.

    (2) I hold back a lot when I'm worried about trashing $1200 worth of camera (and lens) if I hit something wrong (I have gone over the bars before while filming - it happens - it is part of mountain biking). If I trash the GoPro, most likely I'll just have to get another plastic case, but even if the whole camera is trashed, it isn't that expensive. I once shot a GoPro out of a slingshot 50 feet into the air and the only thing that happened was the SD card popped out. I put it back in and the camera worked fine.

    (3) When editing the GoPro vs. the HD footage, I usually end up throwing out a lot of the HD footage just because of shake. This is frustrating because it is usually the coolest (most technical) areas of the trail.

    (4) A blur is a blur, whether it is a highly defined blur or not. By this, I mean that I'm not that impressed with HD videos to restrict myself to helmet footage, editing out some of my best clips, and chance breaking a beautiful HD camera.

    The only thing I don't like about the GoPro Wide is the helmet mount - it makes me look like I'm twelve feet tall. The Chest and bike mounts are much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    It's called a discussion. This is a discussion board after all, isn't it?

    You see, it works like this sometimes:
    Get it? Do you have any more scintillating questions, or perhaps something to discuss?
    You should take your own advice!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    False.

    Why do people post this kind of nonsense?

    So since we are in a discussion here why don't you elaborate on why the GoPro is not tenth of the cost for the quatlity it has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    The video of the GoPro has much less noticable shake than the HD camera mounted on my helmet. I'm not sure whether this is because the field of view is so large on the GoPro, or because the HD camera is heavier.
    Probably a bit of both, combined with technique.

    When GoPro introduced their first camera, they only offered a normal field of view (54 degrees) which is too narrow for helmetcam footage, yielding footage that is generally too shaky.

    With their latest "wide" camera (really a 170 degree fisheye lens) they have gone to the other extreme. Yes the footage is noticeably smoother, at the cost of a very distorted image (straight lines are very curved, especially near the frame edges).

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    (1) I don't like being restricted to just helmet cam footage (I like chest mounts and bike mounts more). I've even mounted the GoPro on a boom to get different odd shots. The flexibility is awesome.
    FYI, full-sized camcorders can be attached to the frame as well. Boom shots, if they tickle your fancy, can also be rigged, but not as easily as frame shots.

    There's also that other, all too often overlooked, option of shooting third person...

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    (2) I hold back a lot when I'm worried about trashing $1200 worth of camera (and lens) if I hit something wrong (I have gone over the bars before while filming - it happens - it is part of mountain biking).
    Helmet mounted cameras can take more abuse than you give them credit for, especially if they are mounted in an enclosure and you're using a filter/wide angle adapter (which provides extra lens protection, just as they do on still cameras).

    I have crashed numerous times in the 8+ years that I have been using a helmet mounted camera. I have yet to "trash" a camera, let alone damage one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    (3) When editing the GoPro vs. the HD footage, I usually end up throwing out a lot of the HD footage just because of shake. This is frustrating because it is usually the coolest (most technical) areas of the trail.
    That's the technique issue mentioned above. One of the keys to smoother footage is to use your arms, legs and neck to isolate as much trail shock as possible from your shooting platform. It can be done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    (4) A blur is a blur, whether it is a highly defined blur or not. By this, I mean that I'm not that impressed with HD videos to restrict myself to helmet footage, editing out some of my best clips, and chance breaking a beautiful HD camera.
    This is just a rehash of 1,2, and 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    The Chest and bike mounts are much better.
    There are many folks that disagree with your opinion but ultimately you'll make videos to please yourself, rather than please strangers on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doodooboi
    So since we are in a discussion here why don't you elaborate on why the GoPro is not tenth of the cost for the quatlity it has.
    What? Where did you get "tenth of the cost for the quality it has"?

    "a tenth the cost of fancy systems" is what was posted.

    What are these $1900 "fancy systems"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    With their latest "wide" camera (really a 170 degree fisheye lens) they have gone to the other extreme. Yes the footage is noticeably smoother, at the cost of a very distorted image (straight lines are very curved, especially near the frame edges).
    It is, however, a very useful tool to get certain shots. If GoPro released 90 degree and a 110 degree versions of their camera, I would buy them both.

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    FYI, full-sized camcorders can be attached to the frame as well. Boom shots, if they tickle your fancy, can also be rigged, but not as easily as frame shots.
    I have yet to see someone do this with a full size camcorder. I once spent multiple hours creating a frame mount for my HD camera. The mount was secure to the frame, but the shake in the picture was so bad that I couldn't even get it to work on my road bike. If you have a link to a good HD camcorder bike - mount video, I'd love to see it. I don't mind being proved wrong, it may give me incentive to resurrect the project.

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    There's also that other, all too often overlooked, option of shooting third person...
    No one would argue that HD is great for third person shots. I almost always ride alone though.

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    "The Chest and bike mounts are much better" - There are many folks that disagree with your opinion but ultimately you'll make videos to please yourself, rather than please strangers on the internet.
    In context, I am talking about the GoPro positioning, not all helmet cams - and I am referring to the observation that the fisheye makes the riders helmet appear abnormally high above the handlebars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I have yet to see someone do this with a full size camcorder. I once spent multiple hours creating a frame mount for my HD camera. The mount was secure to the frame, but the shake in the picture was so bad that I couldn't even get it to work on my road bike. If you have a link to a good HD camcorder bike - mount video, I'd love to see it. I don't mind being proved wrong, it may give me incentive to resurrect the project.
    Here's an example from 6+ years ago

    A Manfrotto Superclamp makes attaching a full size camcorder to the frame easy.



    While your mount might have been secure to the frame, the camera/mount interface is where I have had problems in the past. Using a supplemental strap to snug the camera to the mount, or even to an additional mounting point on the frame can make a big difference.

    You might also want to try disabling the OIS on your camera because rolling shutter issues might be contributing to the problem. Lastly, not all OIS systems work equally as well, some are not so good when trying to overcome rapid movement vs. the slower movement found in typical hand held shooting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    No one would argue that HD is great for third person shots. I almost always ride alone though.
    Tripod.


    As far as the helmet shake that you described in your previous post, changing the way that you mount your HD camcorder can certainly make a difference. With the camera mounted on the top of the helmet, there is no counterweight helping to keep the camera steady, only the helmet retention straps fighting that weight way on the other end of the structure.

    Mounting the camera on the side not only puts the lens at eye level but the counterweight on the other side works like the counterweight at the base of a steadycam setup, making it more difficult for the camera to move around and making it easier for your helmet retention straps to keep everything in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    Here's an example from 6+ years ago
    Have you tried it since with a HD camera?

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    While your mount might have been secure to the frame, the camera/mount interface is where I have had problems in the past. Using a supplemental strap to snug the camera to the mount, or even to an additional mounting point on the frame can make a big difference.
    I used a supplemental strap (for safety and steadiness) and even had the mount attached to two places. The mount I tried to make was about 1 inch in front of the seatpost and 2 inches above the top tube. It was mounted both to the seatpost and the top tube. After experimenting with it for a week and getting no where, I happened to read this on the internet:

    "Even with Sony's SteadyShot, you'll get some degradation of video quality if you are riding fast on rough terrain. Mounting the camera to the bike also can destroy the camera's tripod mount if you don't use a supplemental strap to hold the camera down on the mount. Riding with the camcorder attached to the bike can also seriously damage the tape heads and other bits inside the camcorder (can you tell that I don't mount my camcorder to the bike that much anymore?)."

    and this...

    "Therefore, I bought a new camera. HD even. The quality is pretty amazing althought the optical image stabilization doesn't like high speed bounciness as much as the electronic image stabilization on the old camera did."

    After reading this, I scrapped the project because (1) I didn't want to ruin the camera - even though it's parts are different than the DV camcorder talked about above, and (2) I figured that that type of bike mount was something that the HD camcorder just couldn't take. I even took the OIS off and it didn't change anything. The camera is a Canon Vixia HF11.

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    A Manfrotto Superclamp makes attaching a full size camcorder to the frame easy.
    That doesn't look carbon friendly

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    Tripod.
    I've used actually a 6" high cardboard box and put the camera on it because I liked the view near the ground. Without anyone to do any panning, I got bored with this type of shot.

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    This video was with a VIO POV.1

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    As far as the helmet shake that you described in your previous post, changing the way that you mount your HD camcorder can certainly make a difference. With the camera mounted on the top of the helmet, there is no counterweight helping to keep the camera steady, only the helmet retention straps fighting that weight way on the other end of the structure.

    Mounting the camera on the side not only puts the lens at eye level but the counterweight on the other side works like the counterweight at the base of a steadycam setup, making it more difficult for the camera to move around and making it easier for your helmet retention straps to keep everything in place.
    Is that why people mount it that way? I thought it was just so that you lessened the chance of hitting an overhead branch. It makes sense though. Thanks for the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    Have you tried it since with a HD camera?
    Nope. I have interspersed some frame mounted shots over the years but haven't used any since getting my HD camera. I'll have to strap it up and see if my Sony suffers from the same shakiness that your Canon does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    After experimenting with it for a week and getting no where, I happened to read this on the internet: (snip quotes from my video how-to about attaching a full sized camcorder to a bike)
    Wait, you've read my page that shows a full-sized camcorder being attached to the bike but you posted "I have yet to see someone do this with a full size camcorder"?

    That doesn't make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    After reading this, I scrapped the project because (1) I didn't want to ruin the camera - even though it's parts are different than the DV camcorder talked about above, and (2) I figured that that type of bike mount was something that the HD camcorder just couldn't take. I even took the OIS off and it didn't change anything. The camera is a Canon Vixia HF11.
    Yes, I know that you're using a HF11, hence my previous comments about not all OIS systems being the same. The HF11 has been shown to be relatively poor at stabilizing high speed vibration with the OIS on . My guess is that the rolling shutter issue is at work since it was securely mounted and the OIS was off..

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    That doesn't look carbon friendly
    It's carbon friendly. The inside of the clamp heads are rubber and I've used it on carbon bars and carbon seat posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    Without anyone to do any panning, I got bored with this type of shot.
    I find that when you use a tripod you can vary the height off the ground and get more interesting camera angles. Everything from 8" off the ground up to 6+ feet. More flexibility = better camera angles.

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    I've been mounting an SD and now HD camera to my helmet for years. Before that I used a bullet camera. Most of what Pete has said above I would have to agree with.

    My SD camera is a Sony DCR TRV30 and the HD is a Canon HV20. I've actually not been that happy with the Canon. It has more problems with dropping frames and blurred images than my old Sony. Note that with both cameras I normally shoot with OIS turned off and use a wide angle lens.

    For mounting I have played with on the top, on the side with a counter weight, and to the frame with a Manfrotto SuperClamp. The side mount provides the most stability. Then the top and finally the frame mount in that order. I think that one visual trick that helps with footage is having a fixed object in the frame. For example, when mounted to the frame there is a lot of blur and bouncing. But the bike itself is rock steady and visually we must lock onto that and the movement around doesn't bother as much.

    Examples of some of my footage is on my site:

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    Oh, I have also shot 3rd person using a steadicam device. Amazing how those work. But a real trick to learn. You can see examples of the footage here where the kids are riding/running through the sand section at Granite Bay:

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    Wait, you've read my page that shows a full-sized camcorder being attached to the bike but you posted "I have yet to see someone do this with a full size camcorder"?

    That doesn't make sense.
    I remember you discussing the mount, but did not remember seeing your video where you included those bike-mounted scenes. I watched a bunch of them on your site again, but did not see this one until you posted it here.

    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    Yes, I know that you're using a HF11, hence my previous comments about not all OIS systems being the same. The HF11 has been shown to be relatively poor at stabilizing high speed vibration with the OIS on . My guess is that the rolling shutter issue is at work since it was securely mounted and the OIS was off.
    I knew I should have gotten the Sony. (Buyer's remorse setting in). I was looking at the CX-12, but was swayed away from Sony's memory stick. The Canon actually did a great job as a helmet cam while skiing:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I remember you discussing the mount, but did not remember seeing your video where you included those bike-mounted scenes. I watched a bunch of them on your site again, but did not see this one until you posted it here.
    So you didn't see all of the still pictures on the page either? I guess I'll have to make them HUGE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I knew I should have gotten the Sony. (Buyer's remorse setting in). I was looking at the CX-12,
    While the OIS on some Sonys might be better, they are still CMOS chips and susceptible to rolling shutter issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    The Canon actually did a great job as a helmet cam while skiing:
    Skiing is the one application where I don't prefer the helmet mount. I get better footage by holding it with both hands. It allows me to swivel the camera, follow people that are right next to me, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanskellner
    I've actually not been that happy with the Canon.
    I agree. I even tried the mount again today (OIS off, Wide angle lens on, Tied the camera down as tight as possible) and it still didn't give me the results I wanted. Oh well, I guess I'll use other cameras for bike mounts - The GoPro and VIO are great for those shots. The clips are usually only a few seconds long anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by hanskellner
    I think that one visual trick that helps with footage is having a fixed object in the frame.
    For example, when mounted to the frame there is a lot of blur and bouncing. But the bike itself is rock steady and visually we must lock onto that and the movement around doesn't bother as much.
    True.

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    Examples of some of my footage is on my site:
    Great camera work! I saw a few of your videos and look forward to seeing the rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by hanskellner
    Oh, I have also shot 3rd person using a steadicam device.
    I always wanted to use this for skiing. I heard they are expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHelmetcam
    So you didn't see all of the still pictures on the page either? I guess I'll have to make them HUGE.
    Anyone can see from your still pictures of the camera set up that you attempted to mount a non-HD camera to your frame. I was looking for video of the end result - that is, what the resulting video would look like. I was looking for video from the set up, not stills of the set up.

    On your page from your website where you discuss the bike mounted camcorder, you do not give a link to your video "14 switchbacks" that you recently posted here (that has the video that I was looking for). Browsing through your "all videos" page, I was not able to find the video "14 Switchbacks" either. Perhaps the link isn't up or perhaps it goes under a different name.

    I understand that it is easy to be misunderstood over the internet when you can't see the person you are talking to. I've read your other posts. Just because you have been to great places and have taken some great video doesn't really give you the right to belittle other people asking honest questions. Or people who try to offer advice to others.

    Feel free to belittle me for my latest post.

    And feel free to use any one of your many screen names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    Anyone can see from your still pictures of the camera set up that you attempted to mount a non-HD camera to your frame. I was looking for video of the end result - that is, what the resulting video would look like. I was looking for video from the set up, not stills of the set up.
    No, not attempted. "Attempted" is just spin, as you've read that page (quoted it even) and know that I wrote that I had shot video using that setup.

    Your apparent thin-skinedness notwithstanding, the same mount (with loose strap issues) was used in the Norway '06 video in case you're looking for more examples.

    There's also this unfortunate piece of vid:

    http://www.paradigmhosting.net/vid/crash.wmv

    As far as being misunderstood, you shouldn't blame others for simply taking you at your word.

    "I have yet to see someone do this with a full size camcorder" is unambiguous. I know understand that you meant to say "I have seen the pictures of a full size camcorder mounted to a bike but I haven't seen video from a full size camcorder mounted to a bike."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I have a HD camera that I mounted on a helmet, a VIO POV.1, and a GoPro Wide.

    The video of the GoPro has much less noticable shake than the HD camera mounted on my helmet. I'm not sure whether this is because the field of view is so large on the GoPro, or because the HD camera is heavier.
    I am starting to think that I bought the wrong camera. The Tachyon view seems to be too narrow, and it seems that this increases the shake. Would I be correct in this assumption? Depending on the comments, I may go out and buy the GoPro Wide.
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    I should have gone with the regular instead of the Wide... After seeing the regular view, I love that it's not as distorted. Oh well. But yeah, these are great little systems for the money without spending several hundred bucks for something like a POV-1. Just depends on what you want it for I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    I should have gone with the regular instead of the Wide... After seeing the regular view, I love that it's not as distorted. Oh well. But yeah, these are great little systems for the money without spending several hundred bucks for something like a POV-1. Just depends on what you want it for I guess.
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    Don't get me wrong... I really love the Go Pro. It does exactly what it says it will do. I just wish the field of vision wasn't so distorted sometimes. Plus, you can never really get the true perspective of a ride (drops, climbs, etc) with any of these. Well I haven't been able to anyway. I've done helmet mount, seatpost mount facing backwards, and now handlebar mount. I thought this cameral would shake like hell when I put it on the bike instead of my helmet but it's surprisingly smooth.

    Check it out http://gallery.me.com/jbennardo

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    Don't get me wrong... I really love the Go Pro. It does exactly what it says it will do. I just wish the field of vision wasn't so distorted sometimes. Plus, you can never really get the true perspective of a ride (drops, climbs, etc) with any of these. Well I haven't been able to anyway. I've done helmet mount, seatpost mount facing backwards, and now handlebar mount. I thought this cameral would shake like hell when I put it on the bike instead of my helmet but it's surprisingly smooth.

    Check it out http://gallery.me.com/jbennardo
    I do see what you mean, and I'm sure that there will eventually be a happy medium, but, right now, the Wide seems to produce the best videos out there, with the best sense of speed, and the chest mount seems to give the best view. Of course, just my opinion.
    I just bought a Wide on Ebay. I'll post a comparison as soon as I can.
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    A narrow FOV (field of view) is like looking through a telephoto lens... everything is exagerated, including any movement (shake) a wider FOV reduces this effect.

    I personally almost always choose a wider FOV over a narrow one, except in special circumstances....

    I talked to the folks at Tachyon, they may carry a wide lens accessory soon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusJackSlade
    I talked to the folks at Tachyon, they may carry a wide lens accessory soon...
    It does look like a snap-on wide lens would fit on the camera; although you may have to glue it on. ;-)
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    I just received my camera. Here's my set up. I have a single horizontal strap (green), with an easy release clip (I already had this.), attached to the camera mount that came as part of the helmet strap assemble from GoPro. I had to cut the helmet strap off of the mount, but it could easily be repaired if necessary. For vertical stability and safety, I attached the upper slot of the mount to the vertical strap of my Camelbak. The mount is rock solid.
    I won't have time to test it until this weekend, but it doesn't move a bit when I jump up and down. Here's a photo.
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    Very cool, looking forward to comparing notes. I'll have mine running this weekend as well. Riding both days this weekend. Good luck and stay safe out there.

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    You might want to consider turning the camera upside down and setting the camera to film upside down (UpD in settings menu) - so that it comes out right side up on your computer. When the camera is upside down, you can easily pivot it forward to compensate for the lean in your upper body. I usually get on the bike, put one foot on a rock, get into my most commonly used position, and then pivot the camera forward (tighten the bolt and then go).

    If the camera sound is set on high, it may pick up your heart beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    You might want to consider turning the camera upside down and setting the camera to film upside down (UpD in settings menu) - so that it comes out right side up on your computer. When the camera is upside down, you can easily pivot it forward to compensate for the lean in your upper body. I usually get on the bike, put one foot on a rock, get into my most commonly used position, and then pivot the camera forward (tighten the bolt and then go).

    If the camera sound is set on high, it may pick up your heart beat.

    Have fun,

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    Good thought. I'll try that on my 2nd run and compare.
    I will dub over the sound. Too much whining going on anyway. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    Very cool, looking forward to comparing notes. I'll have mine running this weekend as well. Riding both days this weekend. Good luck and stay safe out there.
    Thanks. You also.
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    Thanks for the reminder guys... I have my sound set on high and it just squeals with every bump I take. I usually delete the audio track anyway but why record something I don't need.

    You know, all this talk of video we forget that this thing shoots good stills every 3 or 5 seconds. Try a few runs with this on. You'll be surprised some of the cool motion shots you'll get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo

    You know, all this talk of video we forget that this thing shoots good stills every 3 or 5 seconds. Try a few runs with this on. You'll be surprised some of the cool motion shots you'll get!
    Interesting. Post a few if you can.
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    The GoPro can take still shots every 3 or 5 seconds, change that in the settings. You can't do video PLUS stills in the same run. You have to switch modes before you start the shutter. Many of the photos are redundant and you get a lot of motion blur but you'll occasionally get some that are very cool. Plus, it's a great hands-free way to capture your ride without having to stop and pull a camera out of your seat pack/camel back.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    The GoPro can take still shots every 3 or 5 seconds, change that in the settings. You can't do video PLUS stills in the same run. You have to switch modes before you start the shutter. Many of the photos are redundant and you get a lot of motion blur but you'll occasionally get some that are very cool. Plus, it's a great hands-free way to capture your ride without having to stop and pull a camera out of your seat pack/camel back.
    Cool. The sense of movement around the edge of the first shot is interesting. I guess it's the "distortion" that some are complaining about, but I actually like the fisheye look... in the video and the stills.
    Thanks.

    Don't forget that you can pull stills out of the video also - with editing software. Of course, the resolution will be much lower, but you can choose any frame.
    You can use these for free:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...r/default.mspx
    http://www.virtualdub.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    Cool. The sense of movement around the edge of the first shot is interesting. I guess it's the "distortion" that some are complaining about, but I actually like the fisheye look... in the video and the stills.
    Thanks.

    Don't forget that you can pull stills out of the video also - with editing software. Of course, the resolution will be much lower, but you can choose any frame.
    You can use these for free:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...r/default.mspx
    http://www.virtualdub.org/
    Yup, iMovie has a 'freeze frame' button that makes a still out of the current frame. It pulls it from the footage and inserts it into your timeline. If you add a white fade/flash transition it looks like someone is taking a photograph.

    Plus, if you're scrubbing through video using Quicktime, just nudge the playhead to where you like and take a good old screen shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    Yup, iMovie has a 'freeze frame' button that makes a still out of the current frame. It pulls it from the footage and inserts it into your timeline. If you add a white fade/flash transition it looks like someone is taking a photograph.

    Plus, if you're scrubbing through video using Quicktime, just nudge the playhead to where you like and take a good old screen shot.
    Exactly.
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    I have re-modified my original GoPro Wide mount on my Camelbak. The stock "helmet strap mount" is attached with 3 wire ties (one larger and 2 very small ties) to the Camelbak shoulder strap. The attachment is much easier to deal with than my first one, as it can stay there permanently. It seems to be rock-solid, but I will try it out on some local trails this afternoon and post the video afterwards.
    The photo is huge, so I posted it here:
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    I will try it out on some local trails this afternoon and post the video afterwards.
    Cool - looking forward to seeing the video. Seems to be a good place to mount it. When I first mounted the GoPro to my chest, I did it via the head strap (which I cut the straps off of) and ran a 4 foot velcro lashing strap through it. If I had it high on my chest it was o.k., but it was a little bit uncomfortable if it was down lower (especially while taking a deep breath). Your idea is cool because it will be as comfortable as your camelbak already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    If I had it high on my chest it was o.k., but it was a little bit uncomfortable if it was down lower (especially while taking a deep breath).
    I had the same issue with my original "strap" idea. You are right about the comfort now. I can't even tell the camera is there, unlike my helmet mount.
    I actually had to modify my first mount to the Camelbak a bit. I now use 2 medium wire-ties, and 2 small ties, attached directly to the main Camelbak strap, and looped through each side slot. I have one strap around the top, and one around the bottom. A photo of the new mount is here:
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    The tips I can think of are:
    1. Don't place the wire-ties between the camera and the mount, as the camera needs to be as close to the bracket as possible. Ties need to go behind the bracket, and around the strap.
    2. The camera needs to be placed high on your chest, or it will point down too much (like my video). Of course you can also flip the camera upside down if your camera points down too much, but I think it may bounce more.
    Anyway, here's the video.
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    Anyone have any samples of 3-shot burst mode? I know the HERO can shoot a pic every 3 or 5 seconds, but I wonder what the burst mode looks like... Gonna try it out this weekend but if anyone has examples, I'd love to see them.

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    I noticed that a buncho of you have way better resolution in your online vids. Right now I am posting to youtube and it compresses the living crap out of the vids. I see some other sites that are being used, are there any other tricks? like better codecs, formats, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleestak
    I noticed that a buncho of you have way better resolution in your online vids. Right now I am posting to youtube and it compresses the living crap out of the vids. I see some other sites that are being used, are there any other tricks? like better codecs, formats, etc?

    Thanks.
    I've noticed that this happens. It seems that Vimeo is better, but there also seems to be a trick. My videos always seem better if uploaded in native format (unedited). When I edit in Adobe Premier Pro, they seem worse, even if I export as a much larger file. I haven't had time to look into it on the technical end; although I'd bet it is a codec issue. I have just given up on adding music myself for now, and I'm taking short clips instead of long ones.
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    Mine come out pretty good, and I just edit in windows movie maker, then publish to file to play on computer in highest quality. Upload that to youtube. Takes a few hours to a day or so for the HQ option to come up.

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    I don't bother with youtube. Between copyright and crap it's a pain. I just upload to mobileme (apple). You're right, youtube destroys the quality and the gopro vids don't start out that great anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    I don't bother with youtube. Between copyright and crap it's a pain. I just upload to mobileme (apple). You're right, youtube destroys the quality and the gopro vids don't start out that great anyway!
    Yea. They really pissed me off with the recent music blocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawndoggy
    Mine come out pretty good, and I just edit in windows movie maker, then publish to file to play on computer in highest quality. Upload that to youtube. Takes a few hours to a day or so for the HQ option to come up.
    I'll try that. Thanks for the tip.
    Cool video. Too bad the lens gets droplets on it. Maybe you can use RAIN-X or something.
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    MUCH better than my previous videos. This time, the camera was mounted high on my Camelbak chest harness, just below my collar-bone. Very comfortable. I didn't even remember it was there.
    I really like the wide angle lens better than the narrow one on my Tachyon XC.
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    That's a pretty sweet angle with the bars in the frame... I'm still a big fan of the handlebar mount. I just feel better with it off of me.

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    did yall buy your GoPros for around 140?

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    Got mine at Dick's Sporting Goods in Tampa for about $150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freaknunu
    did yall buy your GoPros for around 140?
    I think I paid 190 for my Wide. complete with memory card and lithium batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    That's a pretty sweet angle with the bars in the frame... I'm still a big fan of the handlebar mount. I just feel better with it off of me.
    Thanks. Borrowed that idea (something in the foreground) from someone here.
    Best part is the camera goes on with my Camelbak, and comes off with it also.
    Also did a few skating videos with the camera strapped to my skate. Much easier mounting options than the Tachyon.
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    I'm trying to figure out a way to rig the camera up for my hockey games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    I'm trying to figure out a way to rig the camera up for my hockey games.
    I was thinking of modifying a hip-pack to hold the camera. As long as there isn't too much bouncing, it should be fine. Even a nylon belt, attached to the helmet mount, will hold the camera around your waist. I might try that while windsurfing this summer.
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    Since we are on the subject of video, has everyone seen this thread?
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...errerid=414636
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    Camelback mount

    Anthonyi, I'm really interested in your Camelback mount that you describe, but the photo of it seems to be disabled. Any chance you can post another photo of the mount , and describe how you did it. Your vids look really good. I reckon it's the best GoPro angle I've seen. Here's one of my GoPro wide helmet mounted vids edited with WMM and just posted on YouTube - the bare minimum, but I'm reasonably pleased with the quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    Anthonyi, I'm really interested in your Camelback mount that you describe, but the photo of it seems to be disabled. Any chance you can post another photo of the mount , and describe how you did it. Your vids look really good. I reckon it's the best GoPro angle I've seen. Here's one of my GoPro wide helmet mounted vids edited with WMM and just posted on YouTube - the bare minimum, but I'm reasonably pleased with the quality
    Thanks. Closeup photo is here. https://networkflorida.com/public/3.jpg
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    Wow. Thanks - I'm gonna try and do that right now!

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    Anthonyi you are a genius. Mine doesn't look as pretty as yours, but I think it may work.

    One issue I have is that the camera seems to point outwards, but I haven't actually tried it on my bike yet.

    Thanks a stack - I'm impressed! If GoPro were clever they'd be having a word with Camelback...




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    Here's one with the Chesty.

    Some people mentioned that used on a bike the Chesty is tough to point upwards enough to get a proper frame of reference. I did two things to help with this:

    1. Glued some foam to the chesty so it pointed up a bit

    2. Put my pack's sternum strap under the chesty to keep it from migrating down my chest as I rode.



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    Great video! That looks like a fantastic trail. I found the chest mount view really watchable. You get to see both the trail ahead and what the rider is doing with the bike. The technical descent near the end was very good. The camera doesn't shake about much either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    Some people mentioned that used on a bike the Chesty is tough to point upwards enough to get a proper frame of reference.
    I just saw a picture of the chesty for the first time:

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=30261

    They should have mounted the camera mounting plate upside down so you can pivot the camera forward to compensate for the forward lean of your body. Then you could set the camera to record "upside down" in the settings menu and have the video come out right side up and be able to have a great straight ahead shot. Can you flip the mounting plate? I didn't buy a chesty, but made my own:

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    Anthonyi you are a genius. Mine doesn't look as pretty as yours, but I think it may work.

    One issue I have is that the camera seems to point outwards, but I haven't actually tried it on my bike yet.

    Thanks a stack - I'm impressed! If GoPro were clever they'd be having a word with Camelback...



    LOL - Thanks. I guess there is a reason that my brother calls me McGyver.
    Yours looks fine also. Just make sure the ties are tight.
    The angle will be good there. Post a video when you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    Here's one with the Chesty.
    I have seen some other videos using this. It seems to work well, but it's too much for me to deal with. I figure, if I have to wear the Camelbak anyway, it might as well double as my camera mount. I was actually surprised at the stability of the set up.
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    Anthony. I really wanted the chesty to work because i want to use it for windsurfing, skiing and biking - sometimes I'll have a pack and sometimes I won't.

    I really like your setup though and am going to try to modify it so it works for different packs.

    Polar Bear - yes! Your video inspired me to try to get the "proper" angle for the chest mounted camera. Previous attempts had me feeling like the vid lacked enough upward inclination. Can I possibly get a picture of your home-made chest mount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    Polar Bear - yes! Your video inspired me to try to get the "proper" angle for the chest mounted camera. Previous attempts had me feeling like the vid lacked enough upward inclination. Can I possibly get a picture of your home-made chest mount?
    I took a velcro "VelStrap" from home depot (2 straps) and lashed them together. I then trimmed one side of one so that it was about 1" thick. I cut the straps off the GoPro head strap mount (because I'll never use it) and ran the lashing strap through it. The strap is around $5. I would rather have something with shoulder straps like the GoPro chesty, but my bike is more cross country and thus having a more agressive (forward-leaning) riding position, I need the ability to pivot the camera up (i.e. mount the camera upside down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    Anthony. I really wanted the chesty to work because i want to use it for windsurfing, skiing and biking - sometimes I'll have a pack and sometimes I won't.

    I really like your setup though and am going to try to modify it so it works for different packs.
    Thanks! The photo is here: https://networkflorida.com/public/3.jpg

    My thought for the near future is to modify my mount so it is easily removable and transportable. 3M makes a very durable product called Dual Lock.
    (See: https://www.andybaird.com/travels/gertie/superlock.htm).
    It looks like plastic barbs on both sides, and the holding power and durability are amazing (Think of Velcro on steroids).
    My next step is to mount the Dual Lock on all of my necessary items (i.e. CamelBak, SCUBA BC, life vest, etc., and on my camera mount). This way, I can move my camera from item to item at will. Of course, a safety line will also be necessary.
    I'll post a photo when I am done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    I'm trying to figure out a way to rig the camera up for my hockey games.
    That sounds like it would be really cool.
    I like to ride bikes.

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    Loads of Gopro Wide vid's have been posted here, but I haven't seen any in an aspect ratio other than 4:3.

    Anybody configure there vid's to 16:9 yet? Is this possible?

    That begs another question. I usually post my vid's in 16:9 wide format. When viewing vid's online, do people prefer the rectangle format over the squarish?

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    Hmm. I tried mounting my Go Pro to my hydro back (chest), but the vid came out way too shakey...I'll post it up later.
    Instead, I made a mount that fastens via the bottle cage bolts. I'll take some pics of if tomorrow. Here's the vid:

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    Quote Originally Posted by u2metoo
    Loads of Gopro Wide vid's have been posted here, but I haven't seen any in an aspect ratio other than 4:3.

    Anybody configure there vid's to 16:9 yet? Is this possible?

    That begs another question. I usually post my vid's in 16:9 wide format. When viewing vid's online, do people prefer the rectangle format over the squarish?
    I have tried to crop the GoPro picture to the 16:9 format in a skiing video once (basically to match the other camera's aspect used in the video). The quality of the picture was greatly reduced.

    I bet in two years even the GoPro's will be HD and there will be some HiHD or HD2 or SuperHD that everyone will be spending their money on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    Hmm. I tried mounting my Go Pro to my hydro back (chest), but the vid came out way too shakey...I'll post it up later.
    Instead, I made a mount that fastens via the bottle cage bolts. I'll take some pics of if tomorrow. Here's the vid:
    That's a really good angle. Will be keen to see how you made that bracket up. Please show photos. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    That's a really good angle. Will be keen to see how you made that bracket up. Please show photos. Thanks.
    Here's some pics of the bracket. Just milled a piece of aluminum...

    <img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_vtmZU7exU8c/ShBLLw-Dw7I/AAAAAAAABSk/bk2QCRMC_o0/s800/IMG_0789.JPG" />

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    Here's some pics of the bracket. Just milled a piece of aluminum...
    Very cool. Solid video.
    It gave me a great idea. I bet you could get an awesome angle with a "T" bracket, mounted to the same holes. It would be similar, but out to the side 3 inches. I think a standard "T" bracket (usually used to hold a 2x4 to another 2x4) would work fine, with just a quick bend of the bracket. Next time I am at Home Depot, I'll see what I can find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    Hmm. I tried mounting my Go Pro to my hydro back (chest), but the vid came out way too shakey...I'll post it up later.
    Yea. Mine is a bit shaky too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    Very cool. Solid video.
    It gave me a great idea. I bet you could get an awesome angle with a "T" bracket, mounted to the same holes. It would be similar, but out to the side 3 inches. I think a standard "T" bracket (usually used to hold a 2x4 to another 2x4) would work fine, with just a quick bend of the bracket. Next time I am at Home Depot, I'll see what I can find.
    Good idea. My only worry is having the camera stick out too far and getting wacked by my leg... I already managed to crack the housing where the mount bolts on. Luckily, acrylic cement works on this plastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    Good idea. My only worry is having the camera stick out too far and getting wacked by my leg... I already managed to crack the housing where the mount bolts on. Luckily, acrylic cement works on this plastic.
    I was wondering how well the mounts would hold up. In this case, it seems that using a removable fastener ( i.e., 3m Dual Lock, or Velcro Extreme ) may be helpful. It will certainly save the molded mounts from damage.
    Since the back of the camera housing is flat, a "Velcro" type mount would probably hold up. 3m Dual Lock is rated for 1,000 cycles. I haven't had time to play with this option yet, but I should have some time in a few weeks. I will be taking wind surfing lessons this summer, and I want to have a non-metalic mounting option perfected by then. I found this place to buy the 3m Dual Lock (Which seems to be stronger than the Velcro Extreme) - http://www.itapestore.com/index.asp?...n=Custom&ID=19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I took a velcro "VelStrap" from home depot (2 straps) and lashed them together. I then trimmed one side of one so that it was about 1" thick. I cut the straps off the GoPro head strap mount (because I'll never use it) and ran the lashing strap through it. The strap is around $5. I would rather have something with shoulder straps like the GoPro chesty, but my bike is more cross country and thus having a more agressive (forward-leaning) riding position, I need the ability to pivot the camera up (i.e. mount the camera upside down)
    How tight does the strap need to be on your chest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    Good idea. My only worry is having the camera stick out too far and getting wacked by my leg... I already managed to crack the housing where the mount bolts on. Luckily, acrylic cement works on this plastic.
    Duh. I forgot the arm can be adjusted, so I'll try rotating outwards to see how far I can go w/o hitting it w/ my leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    How tight does the strap need to be on your chest?
    Snug, not as tight as possible though. It doesn't affect my breathing if I mount it as high on my chest as I can. It does pick up my heart rate which is kind of weird.

    I tried to redesign it using a more elastic material (my first try with this didn't hold the camera tight enough). About that time I started mounting the camera on the top tube:

    <object width="400" height="225"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4140147&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4140147&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/4140147">A-Frame Top Tube Mount for Mountain Biking</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user553545">Bri</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe
    Duh. I forgot the arm can be adjusted, so I'll try rotating outwards to see how far I can go w/o hitting it w/ my leg.
    Mine doesn't stay in place well and creeps down. I tried roughening the edges, but no luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    Snug, not as tight as possible though. It doesn't affect my breathing if I mount it as high on my chest as I can. It does pick up my heart rate which is kind of weird.

    I tried to redesign it using a more elastic material (my first try with this didn't hold the camera tight enough). About that time I started mounting the camera on the top tube:
    That's a good view. How are you mounting it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    That's a good view. How are you mounting it?
    I used two Minoura swing grips in an A-frame fashion:

    <a href="https://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll201/PolarBear1973/?action=view&current=DCP_0602.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll201/PolarBear1973/DCP_0602.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    <a href="https://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll201/PolarBear1973/?action=view&current=DCP_0603.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll201/PolarBear1973/DCP_0603.jpg" border="0" alt="A-Frame Top Tube GoPro Camera Mount"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I used two Minoura swing grips in an A-frame fashion:
    GET THE HECK OUT!!!
    Now THAT is a serious set up! I would never have thought of it.
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    here's one of my better ones. all done with my gopro, mostly mounted on the chin guard of my full face helmet. that's all using the headstrap with the top strap (the one that goes over your head) removed. a bit of inner tube behind the mount gave it some good grip on the helmet.

    <object width="400" height="300"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4481286&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4481286&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/4481286">Bootleg Canyon</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1087498">Bryan</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

    I like that angle though. you can adjust it around to look back at the rider, and it gives you a lower, faster feeling video than if the camera is on top of the helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryguy17
    here's one of my better ones. all done with my gopro, mostly mounted on the chin guard of my full face helmet. that's all using the headstrap with the top strap (the one that goes over your head) removed. a bit of inner tube behind the mount gave it some good grip on the helmet.

    I like that angle though. you can adjust it around to look back at the rider, and it gives you a lower, faster feeling video than if the camera is on top of the helmet.

    That's the answer!! It's the right camera location for the GoPro wide. Brilliant. Now we all need to go and buy full face helmets... bummer. (Funny how this position doesn't get the arms in but only slightly further back on the chest does).

    It's good to see that Vimeo allows the Chilli Pepper's audio - YouTube/WMG wankers banned my video with RHCP's dubbed on it.

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    If you think about it, it makes pefect sense:

    the human body is a natural shock absorber for the head - this is the bit of our anatomy that can handle shaking and bumping the least. So anywhere mounted on the head will give the smoothest footage. But the further the camera is from the ground, the less the feeling of speed, so on top of the helmet is not as good as anywhere lower. The chin guard on a full face even sticks out a bit, so the arms don't get in the way. genius. Wish I had a full face helmet

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    yeah. the camera is mounted on the head-strap mount, and has the right-angle adapter for some extra reach. this puts it at about neck level (about a foot lower than on top of a helmet), and about a foot away from the chest in riding position. just get some arms, bars, and stem.

    thing is, you have to have a pretty low/back riding position to get away with it. rolling over taller rollers where you need to get really low on the bike, you can tag your bars with the camera. it's not a big deal though.

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    Bry - I found the chesty mounts to be a problem in biggish jumps and when riding really steep stuff. Even with small jumps you can tag them. Thx for the angle and idea - I'll try it on the full face

    yeah - it's a bit too long but everyone in this video will sqawk if I delete their part especially that Connor guy

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    Pic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryguy17
    yeah. the camera is mounted on the head-strap mount, and has the right-angle adapter for some extra reach. this puts it at about neck level (about a foot lower than on top of a helmet), and about a foot away from the chest in riding position. just get some arms, bars, and stem.

    thing is, you have to have a pretty low/back riding position to get away with it. rolling over taller rollers where you need to get really low on the bike, you can tag your bars with the camera. it's not a big deal though.
    Bry - any chance you could post a pic of the mount on the full face?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    Bry - I found the chesty mounts to be a problem in biggish jumps and when riding really steep stuff. Even with small jumps you can tag them. Thx for the angle and idea - I'll try it on the full face

    yeah - it's a bit too long but everyone in this video will sqawk if I delete their part especially that Connor guy

    Latest effort from Merritt
    Such a cool video - what a trail!! it just flows and flows forever...

    Are you using a standard type of mount for the camera?

    All I have is the helmet mount that came with the camera, and some other odds and ends - I guess you can buy other types of mounts for handlebars and seat tube??

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    Spencer - if you click directly on the link it will show details about the mounts. I am using a mix of mounts available from GoPro. Thx!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    Bry - any chance you could post a pic of the mount on the full face?

    Cheers
    I'll try and remember to get one. all the component parts of it are in 5 different places, and I'm pinned with finals this week.

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    Explosive testing the GoPro - Propane bottle explosions at 10m pace

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    GoPro turned around using my bottle cage mount... the biggest problem is subjecting viewers to my hairy legs

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    This is just a quick vid I put together of some of the random filming I have accumulated. The first part is a bit slow because I didn't have many angle's/shots. But towards the end there are a couple of different mounting positions used for the camera.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I have tried to crop the GoPro picture to the 16:9 format in a skiing video once (basically to match the other camera's aspect used in the video). The quality of the picture was greatly reduced.
    I just got my GoPro wide, and I shot my first vid with it. Adobe premiere elements 4 allows me to interpret the ratio from 4:3 to 16:9. I'm not sure how they do it, but it looks like they stretch it and crop. But the quality really isn't that bad.

    Here is a 20 second vid that compares the two different ratios (it is a quicktime h264 format so the vid will take a moment to load):
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    Which format do y'all prefer???


    Here’s a longer complete video of my trip. I used two camera's for this vid (Canon FS100).

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    ...moved question to Battery Run times
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    Riders are Ryan G, Kevin A, Chris B. Thanks guys for a fun 6 lapper! Trails are Overnight Sensation, High Indy, Indy 500, Grumpy Grouse, MeatGrinder and they mystery trail.

    Filmed with a GoPro on a helmet mount and a backwards facing Chesty mount strapped over a backpack

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    Boney M

    DUDE!! I last heard that tune at a disco in the 70's! Retro-fantastic....

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    First we had to sort out a rockslide that threatened to make us actually pedal uphill. We would have none of that and cleared the slide somewhat. We did 5 laps; 2 of which were full laps and 3 of which were 3/4 laps.

    These trails are buff, steep, naturally bermed and rarely visited - a downhiller's paradise.

    Full laps start at 1430m. Three-quarter laps start at 1140m. Each ends at 250m. Final vertical for the day was 4,100m or 13,500 ft

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    I noticed most people post to Vimeo but it seems that Youtube in HQ has less compression. Any reason why most people publish to Vimeo?

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    wow that run sure is sweet - it goes on and on

    I like the dog at 2.42 lol

    What I want to know is how you got a vid longer than 10mins past the YouTube police - mine have been disallowed for being that long before. Had to cut them in half.

    In terms of your question I agree with you - my YouTube vids look better than my Vimeo ones.

    I go for YouTube except when they ban my soundtracks (WMG etc) then I post the banned vids on Vimeo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    wow that run sure is sweet - it goes on and on

    I like the dog at 2.42 lol

    What I want to know is how you got a vid longer than 10mins past the YouTube police - mine have been disallowed for being that long before. Had to cut them in half.

    In terms of your question I agree with you - my YouTube vids look better than my Vimeo ones.

    I go for YouTube except when they ban my soundtracks (WMG etc) then I post the banned vids on Vimeo.
    Yeah, I've been stung by Youtube for the soundtrack a few times. That could be a big reason. As far as the video length goes, to be honest I'd not realized there was a time limit. I thought the limit was more on file size. Shows you how much I know.
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    Love the custom mounts.

    Here is my WebbieHD camera duct taped to some folded up cardboard duct taped to my stem. Lol.. I have a ContourHD on order, the camera mounted to the bike is to disorienting unless its pretty flat terrain.


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    Here's a recent vid of mine, and don't worry it's not all helmet cam footage.

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    I really prefer the Tachyon XC due to the shock proof battery system. With the Gopro I was constantly loosing footage from impact or the occasional fall. I have had great success with the mounts, and it's awesome being able to hold 32 gb card and not just a 4 gb. Anyone else tried the tachyon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrthoughts
    I really prefer the Tachyon XC due to the shock proof battery system. With the Gopro I was constantly loosing footage from impact or the occasional fall.
    Interesting. I've not experienced loss of footage from bumps. And I've slammed it hard several times. The GoPro is solid state so I'm not sure how a bump would cause it to lose footage. Maybe you have a faulty unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrthoughts
    I really prefer the Tachyon XC due to the shock proof battery system. With the Gopro I was constantly loosing footage from impact or the occasional fall.
    Ok, jrthoughts, are you affiliated with Tachyon in any way? It appears that you have posted comments/questions about that product all over the web on various forums. Most of them in a positive slant. Tell me you aren't a rep for that product and going around anonymously pimping the product?

    I'm also raising the BS meter because of your "shock proof" comments. That seems to be a theme in your comments. It would take a hell of an impact to jar the batteries in my GoPro to cause them to lose contact. Also, the orientation of the batteries is horizontal and impacts are typically vertical.

    Something is fishy here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beagledadi
    I've been having a blast with mine also. I'm working on some different mounts around the bike as well. GoPro was supposed to have released the "Chesty" chest mounted harness this month but I still haven't seen it. Have fun, Matt.

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    What software did you use to compile your video? I like the transitions you made in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryguy17
    here's one of my better ones. all done with my gopro, mostly mounted on the chin guard of my full face helmet. that's all using the headstrap with the

    I like that angle though. you can adjust it around to look back at the rider, and it gives you a lower, faster feeling video than if the camera is on top of the helmet.
    Having the front wheel in the video adds a whole other frame of reference that helmet mount videos are lacking. It brings the experience to the viewer with the wheel moving all over the place. You have a much better sense for the terrain with the wheel and the handlebars visible.
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    here's my first forray into the world of GoPro

    let's see if I can get this link to work....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tep
    let's see if I can get this link to work....

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    enjoy,
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    tep - that worked fine. Was the backward angle the helmet position mounted backwards?
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    Polar Bear and Anthonyi

    Polar Bear and Anthonyi

    I'd like to get your permission to use your pictures of your various mount positions for the GoPro for a review article. I'll also PM you for your first names and initials if you would rather be cited that way rather then MTBR handles
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    Polar Bear and Anthonyi

    I'd like to get your permission to use your pictures of your various mount positions for the GoPro for a review article. I'll also PM you for your first names and initials if you would rather be cited that way rather then MTBR handles
    You have my permission. I sent you a msg via PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    tep - Was the backward angle the helmet position mounted backwards?

    Lee, the helmet I use is a Bell X-Ray, which is kind of flat on the back part of the helmet where the rear vents are, so I used the "headlamp" stlye head strap that came with the camera and had it facing backwards. I don't know if this would work with all helmets, but on mine it sits at just the right angle, and is really quite stable. I also like that it doesn't look "down" onto the person behind me, but more on the same plane as the rider.

    give it a try, hope it helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrthoughts
    I really prefer the Tachyon XC due to the shock proof battery system. With the Gopro I was constantly loosing footage from impact or the occasional fall. I have had great success with the mounts, and it's awesome being able to hold 32 gb card and not just a 4 gb. Anyone else tried the tachyon?
    ive had a tachyon for 8 months and now hardly ever use it,found the narrow angle lense useless under treecover and low light,like half the winter here in scotland!,the mounts are useless too,i had a helmet mount sent for free but just slipped and then snapped 3rd time out,the webcam/tripod swival mount has play in it so you had to add cable ties to secure it,i ended up glueing a 6mm thread flange nut onto the base with JB weld for mountaining to various homemade brackets,the 8g card and waterproofing is good,it does as a back up camera or as iusually do mount it on the bike,
    it cost 185 inc import tax to the UK,buying a go pro wide asap now there out and proving to be good,and definitly way better quality,heres 2 films i made with the tachyon using it with a small tripod or on side of helmet
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    lately ive just been using a cheap 59 cannon powershot A470,with small tripod or when dry on the bike,i like to mix stills with views aswell as on bike footage,heres a couple of films with it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0EgPKtfDZU
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    Thanks for the reply tep - I'll try it

    New C-Line trail that cuts in and out of CIU. Trained loam with Todd, Steve, Seb, Brian, Sharon. Filmed with standard video camera and with GoPro -mostly chesty forwards and reversed and some headcam

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    Then Big Timber near Creekside because I felt too intimidated on Aline

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    My newest video with the GoPro Wide, using my CamelPak mount:

    It was wet and muddy, and, of course, I blame this for our 2 crashes!
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    anthony - you really do have that position dialed.

    cytoe - I'd like to use your homebrew picture where you stuck that insulation around your GoPro - its on the first page of the thread. It'll be for a review showcasing various mods people have made. How much battery life did you get by using that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    anthony - you really do have that position dialed.

    cytoe - I'd like to use your homebrew picture where you stuck that insulation around your GoPro - its on the first page of the thread. It'll be for a review showcasing various mods people have made. How much battery life did you get by using that?
    With temps in the 20's, the batteries died w/in a minute. With the foot heater strapped on, the battery lasted for at least 30 minutes (I only filmed that long).

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    I got my tripod mount rigged...

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    I got my tripod mount rigged...

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    Ugh! Sorry for the double post but for the life of me I can't figure out how to delete one. Seems I can only edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5H0CK3R
    Ugh! Sorry for the double post but for the life of me I can't figure out how to delete one. Seems I can only edit.
    No worries mate - it's so good I watched both of them

    P.S. I just can't ride backwards like that - how long did it take you to learn...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    No worries mate - it's so good I watched both of them

    P.S. I just can't ride backwards like that - how long did it take you to learn...?
    Thanks! Actually, the backwards jumping was the hard part.
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    after some prodding from LeeL, I finally got a picture of my mount setup. enjoy:



    that's just the headband strap that comes with the helmet hero, with the upper part removed (it slides off the clip. took me a bit to figure that out) there's a piece of tube behind the mounting brackets to prevent slippage/pad the helmet from scratching.

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    Genius.

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    I came here looking for some cool ideas for a newly purchased gopro wide. Definately found some things to try out later.

    Here's all i've filmed so far:

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    Bryguy - that's awesome. I couldn't figure out how to get the headband mount thing to not slip off the end of the full face - the ghetto tube fix is garage engineering at its best. That's the part about the GoPro. So many ways to rig up interesting mounts

    tep. I tried the backwards helmet cam. For me it worked when I didn't have a pack but when I had the pack it was filming the pack



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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler
    I came here looking for some cool ideas for a newly purchased gopro wide. Definately found some things to try out later.

    Here's all i've filmed so far:

    (Seven Springs, Pennsylvania)
    Not bad - Chesty mount? did it come with the camera?

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    a very short clip of my son getting "towed" into some s/t.

    I used the GoPro handlebar mount.

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    I wish GoPro and/or other companies would look into incorporating a "tripod" screw mount like VioSport uses with their cameras. Their mounts totally rock!!

    sorry for the sidenote, cuz I'm really digging the GoPro, I just miss the great mounts from VIO.

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    Any word on the firmware update? Been dragging their feet for many months now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbennardo
    Any word on the firmware update? Been dragging their feet for many months now.
    Does the Wide need one? Any problems with the current one?
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    "Need" is probably debatable. For me, the GoPro already works exactly as advertised.

    Though I sure wouldn't complain if they end up releasing the rumored firmware update. If it has all the rumored upgrades, it will be one of the most significant free functionality update I've ever received for an already purchased gadget.

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    The beta version I have implements support for SDHC cards. You can use 8GB cards. Purportedly improves white balance too but I couldn't tell the difference
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    They were talking it up back in March as if release was imminent... not so much.

    I was just looking forward to longer record times, I had no idea there were some other functional improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryguy17
    after some prodding from LeeL, I finally got a picture of my mount setup. enjoy:



    that's just the headband strap that comes with the helmet hero, with the upper part removed (it slides off the clip. took me a bit to figure that out) there's a piece of tube behind the mounting brackets to prevent slippage/pad the helmet from scratching.
    Bry, did you use the extenders instead of mounting the camera directly to the mount just to get a better angle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    The beta version I have implements support for SDHC cards. You can use 8GB cards. Purportedly improves white balance too but I couldn't tell the difference
    Cool. Thanks for the info.
    I had heard that larger cards already worked, but I haven't tried any.
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    Smile my 1st shot at GoPro (despite the sternum-strap issue)

    I just got my GoPro, and here's my 1st attempt with it... (With kinda silly scenes, I know, but just for some fun/chuckle/joke.)

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    Instead of other helmet cams, I decided on GoPro because of Chesty. Personally I really like the chest-cam angle as seen on videos in this thead (& one Pinkbike VOD last week). So, instead of the "Hemlet HERO Wide" package ($190) plus accessories, I just bought the "Wide HERO" ($140) + Chesty ($40) + Roll Bar Mount ($30). And, per <a href="https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=498616">this post about batteries</a>, I was gonna pick up Sanyo enelope recharger/battery kit ($30/Costco), but ended up with Duracell recharger/battery kit ($10/Costco) for the price.

    First, I'd like to thank <a href="https://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/gopro-helmet-hero-wide-video-camera-review/">Brian Mullin's review</a> for overview, <a href="https://www.feedthehabit.com/outdoors/the-definitive-gopro-pov-video-camera-review/">Lee Lau's review</a> for setup/usability, and posters in this thread for additional tips/ideas. By the time I received my GoPro in the mail, I'd read enough to jump start with it better. I was more informed/aware of the setup/mount angles (despite no instant-play screen) even on my 1st time with it this morning.

    Thankfully, following the tip, I taped a piece of form behind/bottom of the Chesty plate for better angle. (I had the bottom of the Chesty plate rest over my chest cavity, by the way. Is that where people mean "center/middle" of chest? Any pics of sternum strap with Chesty?) Unfortunately, despite my having read & re-read all the pointers, I somehow failed to take care of the sternum strap issue - doh! - as appearant in this video (especially on very steep sections). I'll surely have to remember that from next time.

    <a href="https://is.pinkbike.com/photo/3753/pbpic3753003.jpg"><img src="https://is2.pinkbike.com/m3/3753/spbpic3753003.jpg"></a>

    I had to do one thing with Roll Bar Mount. One of the arms couldn't be tightened enough to be stable, as it looked like the bolt was bottoming out on the nut. So, I jammed a washer, and now it "bites" to hold it. (Anyone else had this issue?) Also, I kinda wish that - in general (not just w/ Roll Bar pieces) - the nut piece is somehow secured in its seat. I'm afraid to lose it while swapping attachment around on the trails. (I'm sure somebody lost some in the woods. Any mod's to secure it?)

    Another self-observation of this video is as already described in Lee's review about low/mixed light. Early morning sun light thru the woods creates too much shadow/light contrast for the camera. Probably not the best time for filming (but not much choice for me on this - see "PS." below).

    As for sound, I've not drilled out the case yet (or not even taking out the white rubber seal). When on Chesty, there was barely any sound. When on the downtube (via Roll Bar Mount), I can hear some vibration noise. So, for this video editing, I just muted all sounds. (By the way, I didn't use any image stabilization software for this video editing.)

    As for video editing tips from Lee's review, I tried to mix different angles on the 1st trail, as it's easy to run many laps there. On the other hand, the 2nd & 3rd trails are not easily repeatable (once you're at the bottom, you're done), so just one angle (Chesty) is all I got. By the way, I just used the Windows-freebie Movie Maker (nothing fancy like Adobe).

    Finally, I (unintentionally ) crash-tested it as seen on this video, and it's good to know that it survived fine.

    Though it looks like I need a bit more practice (sternum strap!), this really is a fun lil' camera.

    Cheers,
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    "Crack o' Dawn" joke is that lately I've been riding solo <i>early</i>-Sat mornings (per wife/daughter duty) and I've not seen my normal-hour riding friends.
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    Damn pirochu. I wish my first video with the GoPro had turned out as nice as that. I liked the way you combined different camera angles
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    Quote Originally Posted by PiroChu
    I just got my GoPro, and here's my 1st attempt with it... (With kinda silly scenes, I know, but just for some fun/chuckle/joke.)

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    What a great video! Great riding also!

    Quote Originally Posted by PiroChu
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    "Crack o' Dawn" joke is that lately I've been riding solo <i>early</i>-Sat mornings (per wife/daughter duty) and I've not seen my normal-hour riding friends.
    I'm right there with you. It's 4:52 AM and I'm getting ready to get on the bike.

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    If that's your first attempt I can't wait to see your future vids. Good mix of angles. Well thought out.

    Cool trail too with some hairy jumps - I know you didn't intend it but that crash kind of makes the video! (You're not related to Tarantino are you? )

    Let's see some more!

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    PiroChu, that is an awesome video

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiroChu
    I just got my GoPro, and here's my 1st attempt with it... (With kinda silly scenes, I know, but just for some fun/chuckle/joke.)
    Very nice! High-five!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar Bear
    I'm right there with you. It's 4:52 AM and I'm getting ready to get on the bike.
    I'm almost there... I'm dreaming of riding.
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    pirochu, nice vid! I like the opening scene as well as the riding. wishing I had trails like that in my neck of my woods.

    was that the roll bar mount you used on the downtube?

    looking forward to more great trails, and vids...keep them coming!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiroChu
    I had to do one thing with Roll Bar Mount. One of the arms couldn't be tightened enough to be stable, as it looked like the bolt was bottoming out on the nut. So, I jammed a washer, and now it "bites" to hold it. (Anyone else had this issue?) Also, I kinda wish that - in general (not just w/ Roll Bar pieces) - the nut piece is somehow secured in its seat. I'm afraid to lose it while swapping attachment around on the trails. (I'm sure somebody lost some in the woods. Any mod's to secure it?)
    I also had the issue with not being able to tighten the bolt down enough and my camera dropping on hard landings. To fix it I replaced the cap nut with a regular nut. I suggest you take the screw and nut and go to a hardware store and buy a bunch of replacements because if you're like me and change mounts out on the trail, you're going to lose some parts.

    Nice vid BTW.
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    forgot to mention in my last post, my cure for the "nut" problem is Crazy Glue it in the spot where the nut sits.

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    New question here. Q: Chesty & sternum strap ?

    Hi folks,

    Thanks much for your nice comments on the vid. It was certainly my 1st <i>filming</i> with the GoPro cam (alhough it wasn't my 1st time <i>editing</I> a video, per se), and that was a lot of fun (except..., again, for the sternum strap issue).

    And thanks for the "nut" feedback (& early-morning comment), too - good to know it wasn't just me.

    Anyway, before I go out next time with my GoPro, I need to get some more pointers from you guys with Chesty, please. What did you find as the best way to keep the sternum strap away from the camera's view? Lee Lau's review recommends "<i>under</I>" (to "hook it under", like below pic?) the camera. Or would it be better if placed "<i>behind</i>" the Chesty straps? (Would the latter isolate the pack movement better than the former?)

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    "BEHIND"
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    Thanks again,
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    "Under"

    I have my sternum strap quite a bit lower then you
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    I have my sternum strap quite a bit lower then you
    Thanks, Lee. I wonder if it's that my sternum strap is higher than your, or if it's that my Chesty is located lower than yours?

    I mean, my sternum strap can't really go much lower than where it is on my pack. And, as I posted, the bottom of Chesty (where the piece of form is taped) is located on my chest cavity.
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    My 2nd shot at GoPro (resolved the sternum-strap issue)

    Hi folks,

    I just went out on a quick ride. While at it, I decided to briefly try out the "behind" routing for the sternum strap with Chesty. As my 2nd attempt with GoPro/Chesty, I was relieved to see that the annoying sternum-strap issue was resolved this time - phew!

    Anyway, here's a lil' sequel to "Crack o' Dawn".
    <i>So I went looking for my watch that I had lost previously. Unfortunately I didn't find it, but...!?!?</i>

    <object width="400" height="300"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=5746834&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=5746834&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5746834">Where's My Watch?</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2053743">PiroChu</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

    Since I was really just filming to experiment with my sternum strap (& was running out of time/sunlight), I only got one single-angle footage this time. (I know, sorry: same Chesty angle & same trail again = "<i>Boring!</i>" ) Initially I wasn't even thinking of making a video out of this boring 'sternum-strap experiment' footage, but later decided to have a lil' fun mainly with video editing after all. I just left the sound (or faint noise) from the camera in there this time. As for sunlight through the woods, it was a bit dark for the camera at 7pm, but at least it was more consistent this time. (I picked up trash along the way. )

    At some point, I'd also like to try Lee Lau's "reverse Chesty" angle (no rush)...

    Cheers,
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    Does anyone have news about the new GoPro HD?

    It's supposed to blow the VholdR HD out of the water stats wise. PM me if you want my Contour HD

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiroChu
    Hi folks,

    I just went out on a quick ride. While at it, I decided to briefly try out the "behind" routing for the sternum strap with Chesty. As my 2nd attempt with GoPro/Chesty, I was relieved to see that the annoying sternum-strap issue was resolved this time - phew!

    Anyway, here's a lil' sequel to "Crack o' Dawn".
    <i>So I went looking for my watch that I had lost. I didn't find it, but...!?!?</i>
    Since I was really just filming to experiment with my sternum strap (& was running out of time/sunlight), I only got one single-angle footage this time. (I know, sorry: same Chesty angle & same trail again = "<i>Boring!</i>" ) Initially I wasn't even thinking of making a video out of this boring 'sternum-strap experiment' footage, but later decided to have a lil' fun mainly with video editing after all. I just left the sound (or faint noise) from the camera in there this time. As for sunlight through the woods, it was a bit dark at 7pm, but at least it was more consistent this time.

    Eventually I'd still like to try Lee Lau's "reverse Chesty" angle some time (no rush)...

    Cheers,
    - PiroChu
    PiroChu, alias Tarantino - you're so modest. Another great film - the wife and I cracked up at the Sasquatch - where did you get that shot from??!!

    Seriously, please tell me how high those drops are - they look fairly significant.

    Have you thought about using YouTube instead of Vimeo - for some reason I think it gives slightly better quality, especially if using the "High Quality" setting when you "save it to your computer" after editing in WMM.

    Can't wait for the next one

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    That was super creative pirochu. GoPro makes drops look small. 6ft dorps look like 2 ft.
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    Helmet cam footage with a GoPro Wide from opening day on 6.26.09 @ Marquette Mountain. The trail is Lower Hemi and is in my opinion the best trail on the hill.
    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sx10bF05IRs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color 2=0xcd311b"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sx10bF05IRs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color 2=0xcd311b" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

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    Quote Originally Posted by brumski
    Helmet cam footage with a GoPro Wide from opening day on 6.26.09 @ Marquette Mountain. The trail is Lower Hemi and is in my opinion the best trail on the hill.
    Wow! Excellent view from way up there. Nice trail. It's unreal that the camera is so steady. What kid of mount are you using?
    I don't remember how it feels to go downhill for any length of time anymore. We don't have that luxury in Florida. Maybe it's time for me to take a trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    Wow! Excellent view from way up there. Nice trail. It's unreal that the camera is so steady. What kid of mount are you using?
    I don't remember how it feels to go downhill for any length of time anymore. We don't have that luxury in Florida. Maybe it's time for me to take a trip!

    I customized the Headlamp-Style Head Strap mount that came with my Hero. I drilled a hole into the mount and secured it under my fullface helmet visor with double sided tape and the helmet visor bolt, right where the bolt is to adjust the visor. This way it is centered on the helmet and is not sticking out to the side, kind of offers a bit of protection for the camera as well.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3754864565/" title="DSC00037 by joenez, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3754864565_7940c4dcc2.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSC00037" /></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3754865025/" title="DSC00036 by joenez, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3754865025_0e0e329003.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSC00036" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by brumski
    I customized the Headlamp-Style Head Strap mount that came with my Hero.
    Great idea. Thanks.
    I had to remove my helmet mount. The extra weight was bothering my head, as my helmet is designed to be very light, and has very little padding; but I may attempt it again - just because your video is so stable.
    My chest mount (modified mount - attached to my CamelPak), is a bit shaky, and I am looking to reduce the shake before I attempt another video.
    I have a handlebar mount set up on my new bike, but I haven't tried it out yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    anthony - you really do have that position dialed.
    Thanks. I need to dial-down that shake though.

    I took a look at your GoPro blog. Very cool.
    http://www.feedthehabit.com/outdoors...camera-review/
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    Quote Originally Posted by brumski
    Helmet cam footage with a GoPro Wide from opening day on 6.26.09 @ Marquette Mountain. The trail is Lower Hemi and is in my opinion the best trail on the hill.
    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sx10bF05IRs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color 2=0xcd311b"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sx10bF05IRs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color 2=0xcd311b" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    brumski - that was sick. You must have been within 2 bikelengths of the guy in front. Lots of confidence in him to be that close - made for very nice footage
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL
    brumski - that was sick. You must have been within 2 bikelengths of the guy in front. Lots of confidence in him to be that close - made for very nice footage
    Thanks LeeL! Yeah my buddy has mad skills, and I never see him crash. Staying close helps with the perspective in the video, cause the wide angle lens lessens the height on the drops and jumps. We're heading back up in 2 weeks and should have alot more footage. I'll be sure to post as soon as we get back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerfrater1
    Seriously, please tell me how high those drops are - they look fairly significant.
    Not sure how high exactly, but here's a pic (a vid frame) of a friend from 2yrs ago. (Nothing too crazy like North Shore or Whistler, but this is about my max anyway... )
    <a href="https://is.pinkbike.com/photo/3787/pbpic3787354.jpg"><img src="https://is2.pinkbike.com/m3/3787/spbpic3787354.jpg"></a>

    I agree with LeeL that Chesty makes things look like 2ft. Ideally in a video, I should mix different moving views (Chesty/helmet, frame/bar, etc) plus a tripod setup for corresponding side views. Certainly <i>that</i> would be nicer..., although that's probably a bit too much work for me with only time-limited early-morning rides nowadays . Well, maybe some day...

    Glad you (& your wife) got a laughter out of the 2nd video, thanks!
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    PS.
    I just tried to saved both videos as "<i>High quality video (large)</i>" via Movie Maker, and they came out to be <a href="https://www.pinkbike.com/video/90226/">205MB</a> and <a href="https://www.pinkbike.com/video/90236/">62MB</a> (vs 44MB and 24MB save as the default "<i>Best quality for playback on my computer (recommended)</I>" setting as originally shown above). Although YouTube's HD is nice, they'd strip off the music per copyrights issue, so I'd've ended up with a silent video on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5H0CK3R
    Bry, did you use the extenders instead of mounting the camera directly to the mount just to get a better angle?
    sorry it took a while to get back to you. I'm real flaky on checking this thread.

    but yeah, I used the extender so that I could adjust the angle more precisely. it also helped get the camera out of my field of view. if you put it on in the normal way, it doesn't get low enough, and sticks up and block your view.

    plus, with it on the extender, you can easily flip it around for a face shot of the rider. that's a hard shot to aim though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiroChu
    PS.
    "Crack o' Dawn" joke is that lately I've been riding solo <i>early</i>-Sat mornings (per wife/daughter duty) and I've not seen my normal-hour riding friends.
    I just watched your video again. Awesome video - puts mine to shame!
    For some reason, the first song is still stuck in my head - every time someone says "Good job". Catchy tune. Thanks for sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    My chest mount (modified mount - attached to my CamelPak), is a bit shaky, and I am looking to reduce the shake before I attempt another video.
    I have a handlebar mount set up on my new bike, but I haven't tried it out yet.
    Well, my last attempt at a handlebar mount was also too shaky.
    After again watching some of the awesome videos from LeeL and PiroChu, I've decided that the GoPro CamelPak mount is not the way to go, nor is a raised handlebar mount. (Besides, I recently traded my CamelPak in for a Wingnut Assault).

    I really like the stability of a more solid mount, so I have decided to try a new design for my handlebar mount. Here is my newest version. I'm sure this one will be rock-solid, thanks to some rubber tubing, 5-minute epoxy, and a clamp from Home Depot.https://networkflorida.com/public/mount1.jpg
    https://networkflorida.com/public/mount2.jpg
    I should be able to shoot a video next weekend. I'll post it if it's decent.
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    Just a quick tip that I figured out with the GoPro mount. I found that the snap connector, when fully inserted, still had a tiny bit of play. I wasn't sure if that tiny movement would make a difference but I wanted to check. I used a small shim of cardboard inserted between the connector and mount and that tightened everything solid. After capturing some more footage on a run I had filmed earlier, I compared the two and I could spot a noticeable improvement in the stability.

    So if you have any movement in the mount, tighten it down as much as possible, and add a shim between the connector.

    Cheers.

    p.s. This was all tested with the helmet mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryguy17
    here's one of my better ones. all done with my gopro, mostly mounted on the chin guard of my full face helmet. that's all using the headstrap with the top strap (the one that goes over your head) removed. a bit of inner tube behind the mount gave it some good grip on the helmet.

    <object width="400" height="300"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4481286&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4481286&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/4481286">Bootleg Canyon</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1087498">Bryan</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

    I like that angle though. you can adjust it around to look back at the rider, and it gives you a lower, faster feeling video than if the camera is on top of the helmet.
    Bry, great video. Considering the speed you were traveling and the rough terrain you were on that video is pretty impressive for a $150 camera. I just picked up a GoPro Helmet Hero Wide and I'm looking forward to playing around with it. Nice thread guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanskellner
    Just a quick tip that I figured out with the GoPro mount. I found that the snap connector, when fully inserted, still had a tiny bit of play. I wasn't sure if that tiny movement would make a difference but I wanted to check. I used a small shim of cardboard inserted between the connector and mount and that tightened everything solid. After capturing some more footage on a run I had filmed earlier, I compared the two and I could spot a noticeable improvement in the stability.

    So if you have any movement in the mount, tighten it down as much as possible, and add a shim between the connector.

    Cheers.

    p.s. This was all tested with the helmet mount.
    Good thought. I will try damping that vibration with Fun Tak
    (Sticky, easily removable, putty-like stuff, that you can buy at any office supply store).
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    other uses for GoPro cams.....??

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    deleted entry....08/10/09
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    New, simple mount for the GoPro Wide

    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    Well, my last attempt at a handlebar mount was also too shaky.
    After again watching some of the awesome videos from LeeL and PiroChu, I've decided that the GoPro CamelPak mount is not the way to go, nor is a raised handlebar mount. (Besides, I recently traded my CamelPak in for a Wingnut Assault).
    I really like the stability of a more solid mount, so I have decided to try a new design for my handlebar mount. Here is my newest version. I'm sure this one will be rock-solid, thanks to some rubber tubing, 5-minute epoxy, and a clamp from Home Depot.
    https://networkflorida.com/public/mount1.jpg
    https://networkflorida.com/public/mount2.jpg
    Here's the first video with my new mount. Very solid, very inexpensive. (Mount pictures above - Video below.)
    We were biking North Creek trail at Alafia State Park (which is very bumpy) with the GoPro Wide camera.
    NOTE: The lime-green slime on the right side (towards the end of the video) is swamp, filled with alligators (haven't seen one yet). Of course, we are careful NOT to fall in these areas anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tep
    don't know how many of you have used your cam for other things besides mtb'ing [hey now keep it clean ], I used mine just the other day in the pool with the kids. I took pix and video. Really impressed with the quality and multi-use of this camera.

    Don't really want to post pics of me or my kids in the pool, but if you haven't used your GoPro for other interests, give it a shot. It would be fun to see what you are using it for...post some pix or video, if you care to.

    -tep
    Thanks for the input, but it's probably best if we post non-MTB videos on forums like this one:
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyi
    Thanks for the input, but it's probably best if we post non-MTB videos on forums like this one:
    http://goprouser.freeforums.org/
    didn't even know that existed.

    cool deal.

    just being curious as to what others use their cam for besides mtb'ing.

    no worries.

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    and just not to offend, I deleted previous posts.

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    I took mine tubing a few weeks back. Great way to get some pics and a little video without the worry about it getting wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tep
    didn't even know that existed.
    cool deal.
    just being curious as to what others use their cam for besides mtb'ing.
    no worries.
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    and just not to offend, I deleted previous posts.
    No problem at all.
    I intend to take mine kayaking this weekend.
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