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    Tough on derailleur hangers

    I must be in touch with my inner berserker or something because I am seriously tough on the rear-d & hanger of my X-5 almost every other week. It seems I am always hitting something with it, bending it and wreaking havoc with the shifting. I keep a good supply of spares on hand and my LBS has gotten pretty good at straightening the bent ones to get some more mileage out of them. I thought about trying out the Shimano 'shadow' line of derailleurs but they only come in top-normal whereas I like low-normal. I've thought about a mini-version of the frame sliders I have on my sportbike but not sure about extending a bolt to accommodate one since it would be creating a lever to tear out the threads, if you think about it. Any ideas on something to protect it? I try to be mindful of my surroundings but apparently **** happens, as they say...

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    Have any of you tried the Saint derailleur? I am happy with the Saint crank I run, just not sure about running the bike without a hanger. It's tough--I know the hanger is there to sacrifice itself to spare the frame but it seems a little too eager to give up the ghost.

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    have you tried something like a Hanger Banger?

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=202657

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    I tried a SRAM X.0 on the X when I first got it and promptly broke it within the first month of ownership! Switched back to XTR which is what I've always liked--never liked the SRAM feel at all so no big loss. The actual derailleur is fine--four years of abuse and still ticking, just the hanger... the idea of losing the low-normal bums me out but I think I may need to try the shadow line. Gonna look at the hanger-banger too. Thanks, folks.

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    The only idea I can offer is to get a hanger straightening tool. Mine has easily paid for itself. It sounds like you and I have the same frustration with this only apparent weak link on the X-5.
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    Do you mean the Park DAG? Right now I use an anvil and a BFH...

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    The DAG is definitely worth the money if you are bending your hangers. I'm using a SRAM X0 derailleur, and seem to go through bouts of hanger-bending, but it's much easier (and more accurate) to straighten a hanger with the DAG than a hammer! Most of the time the hanger hasn't been bent that much, so I think you can straighten it quite a few times before it has to be replaced.

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    Do you mean the Park DAG? Right now I use an anvil and a BFH...

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Fradale
    I tried a SRAM X.0 on the X when I first got it and promptly broke it within the first month of ownership! Switched back to XTR which is what I've always liked--never liked the SRAM feel at all so no big loss. The actual derailleur is fine--four years of abuse and still ticking, just the hanger... the idea of losing the low-normal bums me out but I think I may need to try the shadow line. Gonna look at the hanger-banger too. Thanks, folks.
    Don't bother with the Shadow, if you're bending hangers now you'll simply end up bending Shadow rear derailleurs instead (which are obviously much more expensive). Yes, they are low profile, but the mounting tab is really thin compared to a normal derailleur, so when they do take a hit they bend very easily. I've seen a few break clear through at the tab without even trashing the der. hanger.

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    Thanks, Larry, that saves me the trouble of learning the hard way! Too bad my box made it out of CO--could have used a Park DAG it seems!

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    Aluminum gets very brittle and weak if bent back like that. Just replace the hanger. An alignment gauge is fine for small adjustments and steel hangers.

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    Get the Saint der, the low normal versions are cheap and available, I really liked mine, it took a beating that would of killed a few hangers and der's.

    You'll need a thru axle rear hub tho, and taking the wheel off/on is tricky compared to a standard setup cause the der just kinda hangs there, well worth it tho.

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    That's not been my experience. When mine bend, it's not like I've put a 90* crease in them. It's just been a small tweak that prevents proper shifting, and I'm able to straighten them with the Park tool several times. "Just replace the hanger" is expensive advice. I wonder if Pricepoint or someone has a cheap copy of the DAG? I just used my Sette rip-off of the Park SG6 over the weekend and it worked like a charm.
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    Aluminum gets very brittle and weak if bent back like that. Just replace the hanger. An alignment gauge is fine for small adjustments and steel hangers.
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    My DAG has been by far my most worthwhile bike tool. I rotate through a fist-full of hangers, similarly episodically. I can go a year with no issue, then tweak a half-dozen in a month. Reminds me I should go straighten a few, being Moab season and all.

    Hangers should be weak, else something else much more expensive takes the stress...
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe
    That's not been my experience. When mine bend, it's not like I've put a 90* crease in them. It's just been a small tweak that prevents proper shifting, and I'm able to straighten them with the Park tool several times. "Just replace the hanger" is expensive advice. I wonder if Pricepoint or someone has a cheap copy of the DAG? I just used my Sette rip-off of the Park SG6 over the weekend and it worked like a charm.
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    Tha's kind of what I meant. If a hanger is just bent a tiny bit, you could straighten it, but the aluminum will crack if you bend it too much.

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    I'll add that the DAG is a great tool to have. We've had ours now for a few years and it's been used regularly.

    Also, the new Saint derailleur doesn't need a special Saint hub, or anything (not sure about thru-axle). I just got one for my husband, who has always run X-0 or X-9, as an experiment since he's been catching the derailleur on things. So far, he likes it. It is out of the way more than the SRAM and he says a little crisper shifting (I got the Saint shifters at the same time). His bike has a 24-36 on front and a 10mm axle on back, if that info is needed at all.

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    OP- I was refering to the older style Saint der's BTW, you don't need a Saint hub any 10 or 12mm hub will do. I would be using one on my current ride if I could find a H normal version.

    If you bend/break hangers or der's they make a lot of sense, the new design makes no sense to me as Larry pointed out, at least from a durability standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    OP- I was refering to the older style Saint der's BTW, you don't need a Saint hub any 10 or 12mm hub will do. I would be using one on my current ride if I could find a H normal version.

    If you bend/break hangers or der's they make a lot of sense, the new design makes no sense to me as Larry pointed out, at least from a durability standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban'd4life
    Shouldn't you be in the Turner crib, this is the civilized forum.
    Blame Fo, he had to post up about his latest shenanigans and I saw this thread

    F the Turner crib

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Blame Fo, he had to post up about his latest shenanigans and I saw this thread

    F the Turner crib
    where have you been? still riding with the infuctards?
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