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    have you Ventana fans seen that the Ventana forum is about to be cancelled? it's pretty obvious that it doesn't get a lot of attention, but wouldn't it be sad to see it completely dropped? i'm as guilty as any of you, but i would definitely like to see it survive. how about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    have you Ventana fans seen that the Ventana forum is about to be cancelled? it's pretty obvious that it doesn't get a lot of attention, but wouldn't it be sad to see it completely dropped? i'm as guilty as any of you, but i would definitely like to see it survive. how about you?

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    Not surprising.

    Much of it has to do with interest in the brand, and if Ventana isn't creating new bikes, or the new bikes they do aren't of much interest to the vast majority of riders, the Manufacturer Specific Forum will be binned into "Custom Builders".

    Personally, I think the Ventana seat stay angles are ugly, even if the front triangles do look more modern, but it's also the fact that despite the company keeping up with geometry trends, they aren't really getting into 29+ or 275+ full suspension bikes.

    Lenz stays relevant by offering niche bikes. Guerrilla Gravity stays relevant by offering attractive, aggressive designs.

    Part of the reason Ellsworth lost so much market was because they didn't update the designs or do market research to determine what consumers thought was a "sexy bike." Meanwhile they were jacking up prices.

    Have you seen REEB's full suspension? Terribly ugly.

    As much as people hate to say it, looks matter in this industry, and Ventana looks well, dated.
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    Another reason might be that people are very satisfied with their bikes and don't come around here to complain.

    I don't think a company has to do 650 , 700 , 650+ , 700+ , FB , gravel , road bikes to survive. Do a couple , do it well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Have you seen REEB's full suspension? Terribly ugly.
    Specifically what do you find so ugly about it? Personally I think it looks similar to so many other FS bikes out there. That's not a compliment. Bike manufacturers can't expect to bore anybody into buying anything. I just don't see any standout good or bad thing about the Reeb -- seems to me it's an also ran. What do you see?
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    "Part of the reason Ellsworth lost so much market was because they didn't update the designs"

    Personally I did own an Ellsworth Id and had many issues with frame alignment, and brake noise. I spend much time looking for solutions in their forum... not so with my Ventana El Ciclon. I had issues, but for changing suspension bearings after some time of use. I did ask Ventana Service directly, great service really. This is a great brand

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    Getting rid of this forum is a mistake. Ventana has been around since the 80s; they still make desirable bikes; and I'm pretty sure Ventana supplies tubing for other bike brands. My impression is that Sherwood/Ventana is one of the pioneer manufacturers of this industry.

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    It would be cool to own a Ventana. They are local to me. Before starting his business, Sherwood worked at my current employer. Some of the old timers here remember him fondly.

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    Totally wanted a Ventana back in the day, just couldn't afford one! Would be nice to see some design updates, once piece rockers, updated stays, tire clearance, metric shocks, drop outs, etc.

    Ventana is a great brand!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    have you Ventana fans seen that the Ventana forum is about to be cancelled? it's pretty obvious that it doesn't get a lot of attention, but wouldn't it be sad to see it completely dropped? i'm as guilty as any of you, but i would definitely like to see it survive. how about you?

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    Interesting. Where did you see this?

    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Not surprising.

    Much of it has to do with interest in the brand, and if Ventana isn't creating new bikes, or the new bikes they do aren't of much interest to the vast majority of riders, the Manufacturer Specific Forum will be binned into "Custom Builders".

    Personally, I think the Ventana seat stay angles are ugly, even if the front triangles do look more modern, but it's also the fact that despite the company keeping up with geometry trends, they aren't really getting into 29+ or 275+ full suspension bikes.

    Lenz stays relevant by offering niche bikes. Guerrilla Gravity stays relevant by offering attractive, aggressive designs.

    Part of the reason Ellsworth lost so much market was because they didn't update the designs or do market research to determine what consumers thought was a "sexy bike." Meanwhile they were jacking up prices.

    Have you seen REEB's full suspension? Terribly ugly.

    As much as people hate to say it, looks matter in this industry, and Ventana looks well, dated.
    Funny. IMO, Lenz and GG make some of the ugliest bikes out there. Iím not a big fan of the newer Ventana frames either, but they donít look terrible. I think GG stays more relevant due to the community they have created over the bikes, but I have not ridden a Guerrilla Gravity bike yet.

    I wonder where Ventana is with the updated El Capitan that was talked about earlier this year?

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    Interesting. Where did you see this?


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    Funny. IMO, Lenz and GG make some of the ugliest bikes out there. Iím not a big fan of the newer Ventana frames either, but they donít look terrible. I think GG stays more relevant due to the community they have created over the bikes, but I have not ridden a Guerrilla Gravity bike yet.

    I wonder where Ventana is with the updated El Capitan that was talked about earlier this year?
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