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    Question about El Captain

    I am thinking of getting a new bike but I am looking what is out there.

    I had a 08' Turner RFX XXL that I loved but I got reared five minutes from my house after driving 4367 kms to Moab and back.......
    Right now I am fighting my insurance adjuster so NO I have not resolved my issue but I need a distraction........

    I am 6'7 and 245 lbs with gear.
    Live near Vancouver, British Columbia so awesome riding in my opinion!
    I ride everything from XC - enduro - to steep rock faces.

    So I have been looking around: and like the El Captain and I know Ventana makes awesome frames!
    I like Aluminium rather then carbon fibre but it seems the industry is going towards Carbon Fibre.....

    Question:
    Has anyone or can you put 27.5 plus on rather then 29 inch wheels?
    How is the head angle for going down Steep rock faces?
    (Just wondering if 68 degrees is enough......it makes the climb a bit easier!)
    How easy is it to find a XXL frame?
    I am looking at the right frame for what I ride?

    Thanks
    Kevin

    PS. I did notice it is a bit quiet on the this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgprimo View Post
    I am thinking of getting a new bike but I am looking what is out there.

    I had a 08' Turner RFX XXL that I loved but I got reared five minutes from my house after driving 4367 kms to Moab and back.......
    Right now I am fighting my insurance adjuster so NO I have not resolved my issue but I need a distraction........

    I am 6'7 and 245 lbs with gear.
    Live near Vancouver, British Columbia so awesome riding in my opinion!
    I ride everything from XC - enduro - to steep rock faces.

    So I have been looking around: and like the El Captain and I know Ventana makes awesome frames!
    I like Aluminium rather then carbon fibre but it seems the industry is going towards Carbon Fibre.....

    Question:
    Has anyone or can you put 27.5 plus on rather then 29 inch wheels?
    How is the head angle for going down Steep rock faces?
    (Just wondering if 68 degrees is enough......it makes the climb a bit easier!)
    How easy is it to find a XXL frame?
    I am looking at the right frame for what I ride?

    Thanks
    Kevin

    PS. I did notice it is a bit quiet on the this forum
    stick w/ Ventana if you've got the $. talk w/ Sherwood. he's got plenty of experience building custom frames for unusually tall guys. "nobody" else can offer what Sherwood can, considering what you're looking for.
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    Thanks nhodge
    Now a days the prices are crazy and the reason I have just stuck to my RFX.
    Besides I liked my RFX and how it handled everything I threw at it and it was like a comfortable shoe but now I have ben forced.......

    If your talking $$$ other brands don't really come in cheaper either!
    Also if I am going to get a bike I want a bike I will have for a while.
    I am still riding my 00' RFX which now will be my go to bike (Even though it is only a XL) other then my Fat bike.

    Thanks nhodge
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    As Nhodge mentioned, Sherwood's one of very few that does custom, and in your case, semi-custom. El Cap's 68 degree head angle can be made slacker this way if that is your preference.
    Internal14 had fitted up 27.5 Plus tires and wheels on an El Rey so they for sure will fit the El Cap.

    Edit: Found Internal's thread:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/ventana/el-re...-a-989971.html
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    Thanks Ciclistagonzo!

    Cheers
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    6'7" wow! That is tall.

    Coincidentally, Sherwood posted a 36'r bike on Facebook this past week. One bike was for a 6'7"(?) rider and the other for a 7' tall rider. Suffice to say, if you need it/dream it, Sherwood can make it.

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    Thanks bingemtbr.

    I am not on Facebook.......can't be bothered or want or buy into it.
    But I will consider Ventana as a very good option, if I do go for a new frame.
    Cheers,
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    I'm 6'6", 300lbs, and ride a semi-custom 23" El Rey (TT stretched 2 cm) with 120 mm fork (so the HT angle is a bit more slack than indicated). I've ridden it all over the (non-park) trails in Whistler, as well as Mt. Tzouhalem in Duncan. Love this bike. The new, and much wider, Stan's Flow rims made a big difference. Thinking of getting an El Cap with stretched TT (so I can use a shorter stem, keeping me farther behind the front axle) as my "BC" bike.

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    Is El Capitan's geometry up to date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipHalpern View Post
    Is El Capitan's geometry up to date?
    Funny, I talked with Sherwood last week about a custom El Cap/Zeus and geometry tweaks he would make... for what i want to ride, the standard geo will work just fine. He commented on how many people were riding overly slacked out bikes for what they were riding. I guess it depends on what you want... if you don't like the "conservative" geometry then go custom and get it tweaked how you want.

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    overly slacked out, too long & too low. too trail specific. goofy
    Quote Originally Posted by karimod View Post
    Funny, I talked with Sherwood last week about a custom El Cap/Zeus and geometry tweaks he would make... for what i want to ride, the standard geo will work just fine. He commented on how many people were riding overly slacked out bikes for what they were riding. I guess it depends on what you want... if you don't like the "conservative" geometry then go custom and get it tweaked how you want.
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