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    Whole Enchilada & Burro Pass on 5/2

    We'll be shuttling W.E. on 5/2.

    I know its been a low snow year out there this year, but what is the potential of reaching the top of Burro Pass on 5/2?

    Also, morning temps around that time of year at elevation? 30s? 40s?

    Thanks!

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    Call Moab Cyclery, Poison Spider, or Chili Pepper bike shops for the latest info. The situation can change rapidly in the spring and fall.

    Yeah, watch the temps and don't forget the wind chill on your bike. Bike gloves are often not enough to keep your fingers from "freezing" to the grips if the snowline is near.

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    Highly doubtful you'll be riding Burro Down on 5/2.
    Early May usually only sees Hazard Down at best.
    I've hit Koko down 5 times in the past 2 weeks.
    Hazard is still a ways off.
    Jimmy Keen is being ridden as an alternate to Koko by those looking to add a few pedaling miles.

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    Anyone want to describe the Jimmy Keen trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westeast View Post
    Anyone want to describe the Jimmy Keen trail?
    Casual XC pedal.
    Nice views.
    The downhills aren't steep or long.
    The uphills aren't steep or long.

    Jimmy Keen Singletrack - La Sal Mountains near Moab Utah

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11053 View Post
    Casual XC pedal.
    Nice views.
    The downhills aren't steep or long.
    The uphills aren't steep or long.

    Jimmy Keen Singletrack - La Sal Mountains near Moab Utah
    Thanks! Looks like it's a no brainer to take the Jimmy Keen trail.

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    The issue is personal stamina. There is nothing interesting about Koko down to UPS. However, if you think you should conserve energy then take the Koko shortcut. I would say that the first time be conservative and do this unless you know you are a strong rider. Once you have the W/E dialed into your brain and you can pace yourself then the J Keen trail is a much better route.

    The Koko Down route takes a lot of energy. Be careful if this is your first ride in this terrain.

    Be conservative at first. Let 'er rip after that. You'll survive to pay the mortgage.

    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpreston View Post
    Once you have the W/E dialed into your brain and you can pace yourself then the J Keen trail is a much better route
    Not necessarily.
    It's different strokes for different folks.

    If 30 mph +/- and a bit of air time is your thing, then Koko may be the ticket.

    If you'd be on the brakes on Koko and just rolling over the water bars, then Koko just seems like jeep road in between killer singletrack.

    I much prefer Hazard/Koko to UPS over Hazard/Jimmy Keen to UPS.

    Jimmy Keen is nice trail, but it is not what I prioritize for my time on the bike between Hazard and UPS.

    The Jimmy Keen option is going to surprise A LOT of riders once TWE opens completely. It isn't difficult, but those additional pedaly miles are going to take a toll on many riders and leave them tired and wobbly for what many consider the best tech riding of TWE(last singletrack section down to the river).

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    Yeah, I agree with you 11053. J Keen should be done after a rider is sure they have the stamina for the UPS, LPS, Porky, and the ride back to town. It is a better option only after knowing that you want more miles on the ride. Or early in the year when dropped at the top of Koko and the rider has the rest of the trail dialed in.

    Koko is the express ride to some great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11053 View Post
    Highly doubtful you'll be riding Burro Down on 5/2.
    Early May usually only sees Hazard Down at best.
    I've hit Koko down 5 times in the past 2 weeks.
    Hazard is still a ways off.
    Jimmy Keen is being ridden as an alternate to Koko by those looking to add a few pedaling miles.
    Thanks for the input. We have a ride set up so we'll see where things stand in 2 weeks.

    Jimmy Keen looks like a June opening. Wasn't sure if you were suggesting it as an alternative to add miles if Burro was closed when we are there on 5/2 or just as another way to ride TWE.

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    I just rode this trail last Thursday. Burro and hazzard still had lots of mud and snow, so I skipped it. You might be able to make it but you will be pretty dirty. Otherwise it was great!

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    Koko is the shuttle drop right now?

    Think Hazard might be G2G by next weekend the 24th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop the Seat View Post
    Koko is the shuttle drop right now?

    Think Hazard might be G2G by next weekend the 24th?
    Anybody ridden Hazard this week? Also curious if it will be ready by this weekend. TIA

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    any updates on trail conditions? considering making an early season trip....

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    Lots of rain today.
    Managed to get up to LPS this AM.
    If the rain stops and things dry out, it could be lower Koko/Koko again by the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    We'll be shuttling W.E. on 5/2.

    I know its been a low snow year out there this year, but what is the potential of reaching the top of Burro Pass on 5/2?

    Also, morning temps around that time of year at elevation? 30s? 40s?

    Thanks!
    Now that you've ridden it, you owe us a ride report.

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    I rode it with a couple of friends on Sunday. We rode from Koko as Burro wasn't open yet but took the new Jimmy Keen trail to the top of UPS. Jimmy Keen is twisty single track through scrub oak and adds around 6 miles, about 23 minutes on the ride. The Koko fire road is fun but Jimmy Keen made it more of a ride especially with Hazard closed last weekend. If I was doing the ride from Burro I would probably skip Keen but starting from there added a lot of fun to the ride for me.

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    Thanks. As far as commercial shuttle, I don't think the BLS opens Burro until June 1.

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    Yeah...koko down was our ride. We were advised against Jimmy Keen by our shuttle driver.

    It was a blast. I do not shuttle rides often, but did two this trip; T.W.E. and Zippity at 18 Road in Fruita.

    T.W.E. was fun. I really, really loved the last section; Porcupine Rim. Super technical, super views. Just a blast. Loved my Niner RIP RDO on that terrain though my new wheels are now a bit out of true from that ride. They took a beating.

    We will be returning to both ride all of WE, but also more in Moab. We just did not have a chance to get out beyond WE. It does take its toll on the hands and arms, but legs were pretty darn fresh.

    In all, we only got in 17 of the 32 or so miles. So, we missed a lot and supposed the top section is the best besides porcupine rim trail.

    Crowds were not an issue, but plenty of folks on the trail.

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    Oh...and I cannot imagine not having a dropper now that I have one!!!!!!

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    Hazard

    Any updates on current trail conditions? Planning on riding TWE next Tuesday and wondering if Hazard will be open (for commercial shuttle). Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcarples View Post
    Any updates on current trail conditions? Planning on riding TWE next Tuesday and wondering if Hazard will be open (for commercial shuttle). Thanks
    We're riding TWE on Monday using Coyote Shuttle. The highest they said we might be able to go weather permitting is Hazard.

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    Headed out this weekend and planning on Hazard down. Give Bryan Nickell a call with Porcupine Shuttle. He's the best shuttle company in town.

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    Bummer. Thanks for the heads up.

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