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    St. George Conditions Update

    Well.. forecast looked like it's pretty much a bust for this w/e (02/18-02/20.)

    Had planned for a big group of us to come down..been checking the forecast on a couple of diff sites. Wondering if the locals could chime in on a few things:

    Is there enough rain forecast to make the trails unrideable? Planned on hitting gooseberry for sure, then some of the other more local St. G trails (Bearclaw/Zen etc.)

    Second thing, are there any other trails in the area which are almost guaranteed to be rideable in the rain and worth the drive from up north?

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    You can always count on Paradise, prospector/church rocks even when its raining. If it just sprinkles then you should be safe on anything besides bearclaw. Barrel roll and rim rocks is safe too unless there is a significant amount of rain. Partly cloudy/sunny at the moment 6pm

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    woke up to enough rain that jem and glouds are gonna be out... and prob the road into goose 7am saturday 2/19
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    Yeah id say no riding down south. Its raining pretty good. Besides sounds like u can get shot down here too now

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbster15
    Yeah id say no riding down south. Its raining pretty good. Besides sounds like u can get shot down here too now

    shot??
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    crazy!
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    tweekers will do that stuff now and then.....
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    We've had two double homicides lately, scary!
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    Wondered what the locals thought about Presidents day? Anything going to be dry enough to ride, specifically the race course?

    Planning to come down from SLC, if its going to be ok to ride.

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    Nope, Nope, Nope. Rained most of saturday and today. Sorry I dont think anything is safe, loosing doubt about even church rocks at the moment. The trails would be a bust for the next few days

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    Quote Originally Posted by onesprung60
    Wondered what the locals thought about Presidents day? Anything going to be dry enough to ride, specifically the race course?

    Planning to come down from SLC, if its going to be ok to ride.


    We've had 36+ hours of rain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by onesprung60
    Wondered what the locals thought about Presidents day? Anything going to be dry enough to ride, specifically the race course?

    Planning to come down from SLC, if its going to be ok to ride.
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    we're getting rain and snow mixed over in the little valley/washington fields area. 34* and still dropping

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    Thanks guys, looks like it will have to wait.

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    Monday 2/21 Update

    Well.....

    Just when things wee really drying out up here in Virgin (JEM/Hurricane Rim/Goulds) we got dumped on.

    JEM/Goulds/Hurricane Rim are going to be be unridiable for 7-10 days. Upper JEM and Goulds from Cattle Pen to HWY59 might be a cuple of more weeks.

    Good news is maybe we can go out and try and figure out some way to smooth out the cow craters on the JEM.

    Gooseberry and Little Creek are totally covered in Snow. The snow level was down below 4000 feet.

    Don't have any recon on St George trails yet....
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    Well, we ended up staying home.

    Got loads of snow here up north too =/. A few of our local trails were rideable last week..

    Now, we are planning on the weekend of March 5th.. c'mon sunshine!

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    Coming to St. George this weekend 2/27/11. Is Icehouse out of the question? What are the lower desert trails looking like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punta Lobos
    Coming to St. George this weekend 2/27/11. Is Icehouse out of the question? What are the lower desert trails looking like?
    Time well tell but my guess would be no...

    Churchrocks, Barrelroll, zen should be good by the weekend unless we get more moisture
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    Rode paradise canyon today amd it was good. No mud but the trail was malleable good time to get rid of the tracks of ask the hikers that went they it last weekend.

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    Any updates on trail conditions for the weekend? Will be coming through on my way to CO and would like to ride Gooseberry if conditions allow. Otherwise its on to Moab for the Poison Spider Spring Fest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lactic
    Any updates on trail conditions for the weekend? Will be coming through on my way to CO and would like to ride Gooseberry if conditions allow. Otherwise its on to Moab for the Poison Spider Spring Fest.

    It snowed well below 4000 feet and where it did not snow it rained a pretty good amount. The ground was still saturated.

    Goose and Little Creek are blanketed in a good snowfall and will not be ready for this upcoming weekend

    Prospector/Church Rocks - Yes
    Upper Prospector (Harrisburg to Cottonwood) - NO
    Icehouse - NO......going to be a week or so.
    Goulds/JEM/ - NO......going to be 7-10 days forJEM and Goulds...maybe longer. PLEASE STAY OFF THESE TRAILS.
    Hurrcian Rim as an out and back from lower parking lot - Yes
    Gooseberry - NO......a week at least... still covered in snow which will become mud when it melts
    Little Creek - NO.... takes longer than Gooseberry to dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lactic
    Any updates on trail conditions for the weekend? Will be coming through on my way to CO and would like to ride Gooseberry if conditions allow. Otherwise its on to Moab for the Poison Spider Spring Fest.
    We had the same plan for this w/e but will be bypassing St. G for Moab. Apparently the last big storm missed Moab so the trails are in great shape.

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    I really want to ride tomorrow but with all this rain I'm not sure. I was planning on riding church rocks. I've never ridden this trail before but I've read it's like 90% slickrock. Will it be ok to ride tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clockish?

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    Good to go. Enjoy
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    Cool, thanks.

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    Sunny and windy today... I'd say give it a shot!
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    Fun little loop! Did it twice clockwise. Would have made one more loop but my brother was spent. A few wet spots, but sand isn't bad wet.

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    How are Grafton and Virgin?

    I have business down south tomorrow. We have not been getting any snow up north. To keep our sanity from the lack of fresh pow pow, I would like to bring a peep or two with me and get our bike on.

    edit: I bumped this thread and then realized there was already a sticky above for this info. Sorry. As much as stickies are supposed to help, I sometimes look right over them.
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    Update feb 14 2012

    First, its Valentines Day..... don't forget.

    Second... It snowed several inches of wet sticky snow down to 3400 feet.

    Gooseberry Mesa, Little Creek, Guacamole, Grafton will all have snow on them and be muddy for several days.

    JEM/Hurrcane Rim/Goulds Epic will be muddy for several days, lease avoid these trails.

    Prospector/Church Rocks should be ok once this melts or if you don't mind a little snow.

    Don't know how west of town looks... Shelby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by STT GUY View Post
    First, its Valentines Day..... don't forget.

    Second... It snowed several inches of wet sticky snow down to 3400 feet.

    Gooseberry Mesa, Little Creek, Guacamole, Grafton will all have snow on them and be muddy for several days.

    JEM/Hurrcane Rim/Goulds Epic will be muddy for several days, lease avoid these trails.

    Prospector/Church Rocks should be ok once this melts or if you don't mind a little snow.

    Don't know how west of town looks... Shelby?
    Um...I dunno.

    It sure rained a lot in STG. Pretty wet.

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    I snuck out for a quickie on Paradise and it was still pretty wet. There were some standing water here and there, and I had to stay on the fence to get on the trail itself due to mud at the entrance; it's actually primo dirt (sand) on that trail, and most other sandy trails right now such as Church Rocks, etc., as long as you avoid the clay stuff (GV area) you'll be fine in STG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasea04 View Post
    I snuck out for a quickie on Paradise and it was still pretty wet. There were some standing water here and there, and I had to stay on the fence to get on the trail itself due to mud at the entrance; it's actually primo dirt (sand) on that trail, and most other sandy trails right now such as Church Rocks, etc., as long as you avoid the clay stuff (GV area) you'll be fine in STG.
    Yeah then it just rained for a solid 2 hours out there. I think the sand is muddy now.

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    Agreed Shelbster, it's SOGGGGY....I doubt anything will be rideable for at least two or three days.
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    I'm planning on riding in St. George Friday and Saturday of this week, I've never been there before to ride will there even be any trails that are rideable? I was planning on riding gooseberry mesa and bear claw poppy as well as the zen trail. Want to make sure they are fine before I attempt them for sure. Also if these trails aren't rideable what are the names of some of the trails that would be better to ride due to them either being sandier or more sandstone based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssuperlight View Post
    I'm planning on riding in St. George Friday and Saturday of this week, I've never been there before to ride will there even be any trails that are rideable? I was planning on riding gooseberry mesa and bear claw poppy as well as the zen trail. Want to make sure they are fine before I attempt them for sure. Also if these trails aren't rideable what are the names of some of the trails that would be better to ride due to them either being sandier or more sandstone based.
    Gooseberry is for sure going ti be a no go. Anything in hurricane will be a no go and under snow and sloppy mud. Most of stg will be also. Nothing but the bike path will be ridable today. Prospector to church rocks and paradise canyon will be the only thing id imagine ridable friday and Saturday. It rained a lot the last 48time hours. Barrel roll and Zen seem to do ok on water but if the first 20thing feet look sketchy its only gunna get worse. Everything will even be iffy on friday. Everything else will be a giant mess and if I see anybody riding its open season on their @$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssuperlight View Post
    I'm planning on riding in St. George Friday and Saturday of this week, I've never been there before to ride will there even be any trails that are rideable? I was planning on riding gooseberry mesa and bear claw poppy as well as the zen trail. Want to make sure they are fine before I attempt them for sure. Also if these trails aren't rideable what are the names of some of the trails that would be better to ride due to them either being sandier or more sandstone based.

    Please forget about BCP, Little Creek and the JEM/Goulds. You will damage these trails if you ride them while muddy.

    I did Prospector today (from the southern trailhead behind the Weinkle Dist) to Blakes loop to Dino Cliffs all te way to the tracks as an out and back with a double loop (one is each direction) of Churchrocks and it was a nice 18 or so mile ride and very little mud.

    If you can get into Goose please use common sense on the trails you use and please stay off Hidden Canyon. You sould be ok on South Rim, Yellow Trail, Practice Loop, Possibly Windmill and Bowls and Ledges. If it's muddy TURN AROUND and ride elsewhere.

    If it doesn't rain more Sidewinder, Barrel Roll, Zen and possibly Rim System should be ok to good.

    Good news is its sunny and windy...
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    Any update on the conditions down there? Headed down from SLC this sat to tues. Anything we should avoid? Grafton good to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbingbubba View Post
    Any update on the conditions down there? Headed down from SLC this sat to tues. Anything we should avoid? Grafton good to go?
    Everything but Little Creek on this side of town is good!
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