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    Hello all,

    Can anyone tell me when they believe the trails in St-George will be dry enough to start riding on them again? Ideally, would like to ride Barrel Roll, Zen, Broken Mesa, JEM, Gooseberry, and Grafton Mesa over a few days. I'm in Vegas right now waiting out the rain, but would like to head up asap.

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    Next week at the earliest.....you must not be from around here.
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    Rain all night and supposedly tomorrow as well. Looks like, at the earliest possibly, friday for church rocks but gooseberry will take a good 5-7 days to dry out. especially the road getting into it.

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    Been raining non-stop since last wednesday so the ground is completely saturated and water pooling on the surface. It's supposed to keep this up until thursday or friday, i wouldn't head out on any of the local trails until at least new years week. Sucks haven't touched my bike for two weeks.

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    Wow, New Years week? We were planning a trip down on New Years day. Hoping it dries out by then.
    Pretty amazing the amount of rain that has fallen.

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    A quick video I shot yesterday.

    Santa Clara River on 12/21/10
    This is the bridge that takes you to the Barrel Roll trail head. I've only been here one year, and have seen barely a trickle of water come down this so called river..............now I understand.

    It's pretty wet here right now.

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    ????

    Sorry, I don't know why the video isn't working, but it still gives a picture as to what's going on. The two tractors on the bridge are pulling trees out so they don't dam the river at the bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_411
    Hello all,

    Can anyone tell me when they believe the trails in St-George will be dry enough to start riding on them again? Ideally, would like to ride Barrel Roll, Zen, Broken Mesa, JEM, Gooseberry, and Grafton Mesa over a few days. I'm in Vegas right now waiting out the rain, but would like to head up asap.

    Thanks!
    Tell us when it's ging to stop raining a flooding and we might be able to give you a idea.

    JEM (specially upper) and Goulds from cattle pen to HWY 89 are going to be muddy for weeks.. cross them off your list. Road to Gooseberry is going to be a "challenge" for awhile but Gosseberry itself dries out pretty quickly. Barrel Roll, Sidewinder, Prospector-Churchrocks and othes dry very quickly.
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    Thanks for all the replies! Looks like we may re-evaluate after the weekend Any suggestions on other places to try in the meantime? In vegas right now and willing to drive.

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    My brother just sent me a bunch of pics of all the flooding down in St. G. Apparently the Home Depot store he manages is the 'Command Center' for the National Guard's sandbagging (they're all CAT1's racing CAT 3-joking) efforts.

    Thinking about selling the bike and getting into tubing.

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    The best conditions I have ever seen at Little Creek were just two days after a good rain. Do you think that might still be the case? Or is the ground too saturated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_411
    Thanks for all the replies! Looks like we may re-evaluate after the weekend Any suggestions on other places to try in the meantime? In vegas right now and willing to drive.
    Have you done all the Vegas rides already? I know it's raining there as well but many of the trails in Vegas hold up very well in the rain. Bootleg and Cowboy Trails in particular.

    I think this is supposed to stop tomorrow followed by nearly a week of dry, mostly sunny weather.... but who knows how long until the rain-susceptible trails are ready to ride. Could be weeks for some . Others may only take a day or two. I'm sure there's some trail erosion damage that needs repaired as well from all the rain.

    Best to hold off for awhile.
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    The road into LC is most likely compromised, this is a unique situation, as far as I know this is the most rain we've ever received in one storm EVER. In fact, I think we're already beyond our yearly precipitation in just the last week! First trails we'll be able to ride are Paradise and Churckrocks; two trails that actually benefit from being wet.
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    Zion anybody?

    anyone down there been in Zion to see the waterfalls, especially the ones that only flow in heavy rain? would've been spectacular! got any photos?
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    Zion is sure to be incredible right now, but a safer drive is just up the road to Snow Canyon. With a little bit of exploring there are some 100+ foot falls and great views. Hopefully be up there tomorrow.

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    I live in Zion and daily trips into the park to see the waterfalls go off were the norm untill they CLOSED THE PARK 2 days ago. I did take the road bike out for a soggy sublime ride up the canyon monday morning and even then the road to the east side was closed. They were worried about mudslides on the scenic drive and the new pavement on SR9 leading thru to the east side has been compromised. The parks website says it might be open again sometime today but haven't had that verified.
    Basically there will be no pedaling in southern Utah for days and days regardless of how much one may want to pedal, or think certain places hold the water better than others, I mean turn on the tv news for hells sake. THIS IS BIGGER THAN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD IN '05. Even if it does dry out reasonably soon many many of the trails are going to need some love due to water damage. Which will be exacerbated by people riding the soft/wet earth. Some of the singletrack on Little creek has taken a beating by folks feeling it was dry enough to ride in previous wet bouts this winter. Yes prospector and church rocks hold the water pretty well but I cant imagine even those are all that pristine with all the moisture.
    The whole sw Utah riding scene has witnessed way to much destruction of our trails the last few winters by peeps thinking they had the right to pedal wet trails just because they drove x number of hours and they really want to. Hell read thru the Utah threads and it appears over and over and over.
    Please stay away until it is surely not maybe dry. This will save the people who voluntarily repair these world class trails from many extra hours of work due to your wheels. Hope I don't sound to crotchity but I am one of those many folks who sees a heavy relationship with a shovel, rake and buckets in my near future. GO FIND SOME SNOW TO PLAY IN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge
    anyone down there been in Zion to see the waterfalls, especially the ones that only flow in heavy rain? would've been spectacular! got any photos?
    Don't have to go in the park.. I have a HUGE wate fall behind my house coming off of Goodrich Mesa... Locals say it hasn't flowed like this in 75+ years.

    Like FurryKid said.... it's SATURATED. Basically mark anything East of I-15 off your list for a good long while Except maybe Goulds Rim and Hurricane Rim in a week or so

    PLEASE stay off of JEM and Goulds from cattle Pen to HWY 89 (Hurricane Rim dries faster so it will be ridable sooner) Little Creek is going to be a no-go for a couple of weeks. Sure you might be able to get there but you'll FUBAR the trail.

    The stuff out west and lower (Barrel Roll, Zen, Sidwinder..) will dry sooner and Prospector/Churchrocks is a good "wet weather" trail.
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    amen!

    Quote Originally Posted by furrykid
    I live in Zion and daily trips into the park to see the waterfalls go off were the norm untill they CLOSED THE PARK 2 days ago. I did take the road bike out for a soggy sublime ride up the canyon monday morning and even then the road to the east side was closed. They were worried about mudslides on the scenic drive and the new pavement on SR9 leading thru to the east side has been compromised. The parks website says it might be open again sometime today but haven't had that verified.
    Basically there will be no pedaling in southern Utah for days and days regardless of how much one may want to pedal, or think certain places hold the water better than others, I mean turn on the tv news for hells sake. THIS IS BIGGER THAN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD IN '05. Even if it does dry out reasonably soon many many of the trails are going to need some love due to water damage. Which will be exacerbated by people riding the soft/wet earth. Some of the singletrack on Little creek has taken a beating by folks feeling it was dry enough to ride in previous wet bouts this winter. Yes prospector and church rocks hold the water pretty well but I cant imagine even those are all that pristine with all the moisture.
    The whole sw Utah riding scene has witnessed way to much destruction of our trails the last few winters by peeps thinking they had the right to pedal wet trails just because they drove x number of hours and they really want to. Hell read thru the Utah threads and it appears over and over and over.
    Please stay away until it is surely not maybe dry. This will save the people who voluntarily repair these world class trails from many extra hours of work due to your wheels. Hope I don't sound to crotchity but I am one of those many folks who sees a heavy relationship with a shovel, rake and buckets in my near future. GO FIND SOME SNOW TO PLAY IN!
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    Trying to redeem myself after the first crappy video I posted.

    A waterfall on the border of Snow Canyon Park just south of the Johnson trail. Keep in mind this is just a wash that's bone dry most of the time.

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    Smaller waterfall.

    This one is inside the state park.

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    wow, if I remember correctly, those are the washes you cross when you get to the cliff wall where the arch is right?
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    Yep.

    I took that video yesterday around 4pm. I couldn't believe how much water was there. The bike path, and the road were impassable where the wash crossed them about a mile up the road from where the video was taken.

    A little more than a trickle today by comparison.

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    Many thanks again for all of your replies; lots of good info. FYI, we are spending time riding the Vegas trails (cottonwood, cowboy, bc) and they are in rideable shape.

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    Good job! thank you

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    Alright, one more.

    Video of the bike path in Snow Canyon where the wash crossed over. It's at the end of the video that you can see the multi use paved trail.

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    Spoke with my brother yesterday afternoon. Said that it was finally sunny and in the 50's.

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    I completely understand the pleas to out-of-towners to stay off the trails when they are muddy. But I doubt the folks who are causing problems are the ones in here asking about the conditions.

    If it's muddy down there, then I will carry on up here where my tracks are doing some good:

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    bootleg, cowboy, etc

    I'm in Boulder City, NV right now. Spent last 2 daze riding fantastic trails, technical and cross-country, in Bootleg area. Headed to Cowboy Trails and Red Rock area tomorrow. Then will see how road to Gooseberry Mesa is looking. If not looking good, I will probably ride west of I-15 (it seems that Zen, Sidewinder, Churchrocks, Prospector, Hurricane Rim and Goulds Rim will be ridable soon), avoiding mud; or else might decide to head to Sedona for several days, maybe onto South Mountain, and then head back up toward Hurricane when hopefully much drier... before heading to Santa Barbara where by then I hope the frontside will be drier there, too, and then on up the coast to SLO, Monterey, then SF Bay Area (Mt. Diablo; Pine Mountain.)


    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_411
    Thanks for all the replies! Looks like we may re-evaluate after the weekend Any suggestions on other places to try in the meantime? In vegas right now and willing to drive.

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    'Thought I'd update everybody on the conditions in ST.GEORGE. I've been out doing some trail maintenance and have found the dirt to be nearly ready to ride (should be good to go by Monday) in places such as the Barrels, Zen, and Barrel Rolls, however the clay stuff is still very soft so stay off the GV loop and Stucki. Paradise and Churckrocks are most likely perfect right about now, I'll test Paradise out in a few minutes and let y'all know.

    As for the stuff up near Zion and Hurricane I'll let STT chime in, though I doubt that'll be ready for about 6-7 more days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    I completely understand the pleas to out-of-towners to stay off the trails when they are muddy. But I doubt the folks who are causing problems are the ones in here asking about the conditions.

    If it's muddy down there, then I will carry on up here where my tracks are doing some good:

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    More rain today.....
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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    Just when I was ready to take my new Remedy out on church rocks! Crap

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    Get that bike dirty!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rhale
    Just when I was ready to take my new Remedy out on church rocks! Crap
    Church Rocks will be in primo shape right now!!
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    Looks like the next couple of days will be nice, but then it's going to get cold and nasty by wednesday. Snow predicted in St. George on Thurs and a low of 14!!

    What??

    That can't be right.
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    I just got back from riding church rock and it was in really good shape other than the occasional small water pocket.

    krob let's hope that forecast is wrong, way wrong!!

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    Dammit!!! Finally get back in town and have a day off to ride and I wake up this morning and it's raining again. My bike actually has dust on it!! Guess I've been spoiled with being able to ride all year but this still sucks.

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    I'm hoping Friday and Saturday will be rideable but I have my doubts. It's gonna turn cold after this storm so not sure how much melting/drying is going to happen.

    Keep us out-of-towners posted on conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rshalit
    I'm in Boulder City, NV right now. Spent last 2 daze riding fantastic trails, technical and cross-country, in Bootleg area. Headed to Cowboy Trails and Red Rock area tomorrow. Then will see how road to Gooseberry Mesa is looking. If not looking good, I will probably ride west of I-15 (it seems that Zen, Sidewinder, Churchrocks, Prospector, Hurricane Rim and Goulds Rim will be ridable soon), avoiding mud; or else might decide to head to Sedona for several days, maybe onto South Mountain, and then head back up toward Hurricane when hopefully much drier... before heading to Santa Barbara where by then I hope the frontside will be drier there, too, and then on up the coast to SLO, Monterey, then SF Bay Area (Mt. Diablo; Pine Mountain.)
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    I can gauge by the amount of rain we've received today that nothing will be good to go until Monday (even CR and Paradise aren't going to be good for a few days) and that's assuming the sun comes out for the next few days; we're soaked down here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bortis Yelltzen
    ^^^ You're doing it wrong, post-holing is not the answer.
    If the lazy ski patrollers would just run a snowmobile track in and out, I wouldn't have had to get all sweaty. But they only seem to care about in-bounds.

    I may shoot for next weekend, looks like the weather is going to improve with a high pressure system moving in later in the week. I guess I can always take a road bike just in case. Would be nice to turn the pedals.

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    The 2 inches of snow outside put all the zion good's out for days to come. It's so cold out right now one could almost pedal on top of the frozen slop, The only problem with that is the snow is insulating the the ground under it so it is still soup where there is snow and frozen elsewhere.
    There is a crew of us headed to coyote springs in Nevada on Sunday for a day trip. The dirt there should be perfect and the temp close to 50. If anyone wants in, pm me and I will get you the beta to join us.

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    Rain and cold mixed together in Green Valley on 1/1/11. It was kinda fun early when frozen but too mucky to ride when the thaw set in about 11am.

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    Any ideas about this weekend for Zen, Church rocks, Barrel?

    Which trail are those photos from? Bottom one looks cool, but depressing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-townDave
    Any ideas about this weekend for Zen, Church rocks, Barrel?

    Which trail are those photos from? Bottom one looks cool, but depressing!
    Last pic is Keyhole Canyon, a small part of the Race Course.

    There is still a lot of wet out there, Church Rocks should be fine by the weekend. I would say Zen as well though it may be sticky down at the TH. There is still snow on The Barrel Roll, I rode it Wednesday early enough for everything to still be frozen solid.

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    Thanks for the update!

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    Stay off the trails after 9 AM.....

    Or get off them before they've thawed. I was able to get in two rides this morning before the ground softened, Paradise and "another trail." Paradise was torn to shreds, when I got back to the vehicle I snapped a shot of the entrance to give you all an idea of the damage The trail looks like this about every spot there isn't actual slickrock to ride on, it's extremely aggravating! The "other trail" had also been compromised but not even one quarter as severely as Paradise. When I posted pics of my wife and I at City Creek, that same morning we had journeyed all the way to Church Rocks to ride only to hop the atv fence and sink in the mud. We quickly turned right around, but at least a half dozen others hadn't This is getting ridiculous and out of control, we've had about every trail down here badly, badly scarred in the past two winters. I don't know what the next step is, but I'm feeling pretty radicalized
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    Wasea- 25% of B-Roll looks just like that. Not including a 1/4 mile were the horses made a hellacious mess.
    So Utah version of first tracks.


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    At this point.

    At this point, this is something were going to have to deal with. No? We canít stop everybody including horses, ATVís and ourselves; I know Iím guilty of sneaking out when I shouldnít, not that I make a habit of it, Church Rocks and rollers for me until mid next week. I must of saw 4 to 6 sets of tracks yesterday on barrel roll, one of which had four legs. Iím thinking most of the stuff will be fine giving time; they have enough sand in them. But others including the whole lower Bear Claw (the Loop) starting from Navajo Drive take years to repair themselves, if ever. (And other areas) Couldnít we get some signs up to mark sensitive areas and have walking areas around shorter clay sections.

    Someone needs to step up and get some signs made. Have some trail days and I sure weíll all come and help. We just need someone with some initiative and knowledge.

    Iím beginning to think we are always going to be dealing with this.

    How do we do this? And do you guys think, is this is a good idea?

    Or what else can be done? Ideas????

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    Signage will help a bit, but some people just don't give a damn. They think it's funny that it gets us all in a twist. It only takes 5 to ride on a day that 100 stay away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnriden
    At this point, this is something were going to have to deal with. No? We canít stop everybody including horses, ATVís and ourselves; I know Iím guilty of sneaking out when I shouldnít, not that I make a habit of it, Church Rocks and rollers for me until mid next week. I must of saw 4 to 6 sets of tracks yesterday on barrel roll, one of which had four legs. Iím thinking most of the stuff will be fine giving time; they have enough sand in them. But others including the whole lower Bear Claw (the Loop) starting from Navajo Drive take years to repair themselves, if ever. (And other areas) Couldnít we get some signs up to mark sensitive areas and have walking areas around shorter clay sections.

    Someone needs to step up and get some signs made. Have some trail days and I sure weíll all come and help. We just need someone with some initiative and knowledge.

    Iím beginning to think we are always going to be dealing with this.

    How do we do this? And do you guys think, is this is a good idea?

    Or what else can be done? Ideas????
    Barrel Roll is not equestrian... they have a trail all to themselves called Black Brush that leaves from the same trailhead. Educate them first/nicely and then hassle/harrass the crap out of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasea04
    Or get off them before they've thawed. I was able to get in two rides this morning before the ground softened, Paradise and "another trail." Paradise was torn to shreds, when I got back to the vehicle I snapped a shot of the entrance to give you all an idea of the damage The trail looks like this about every spot there isn't actual slickrock to ride on, it's extremely aggravating! The "other trail" had also been compromised but not even one quarter as severely as Paradise. When I posted pics of my wife and I at City Creek, that same morning we had journeyed all the way to Church Rocks to ride only to hop the atv fence and sink in the mud. We quickly turned right around, but at least a half dozen others hadn't This is getting ridiculous and out of control, we've had about every trail down here badly, badly scarred in the past two winters. I don't know what the next step is, but I'm feeling pretty radicalized
    The BLM "could" help. They had enough money to put up tons of big signs telling us all that "our lands are managed by them"....yet they do not manage our lands or protect them from stuff like this. Hmmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STT GUY
    The BLM "could" help. They had enough money to put up tons of big signs telling us all that "our lands are managed by them"....yet they do not manage our lands or protect them from stuff like this. Hmmmm.
    Why should the BLM waste money on any signs. They all eventually become targets and get shot all to hell.

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    Will any trails be dry by Thursday?

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    My wife and I have ridden CR the last two days from the Washington side. The trail is ready but could use some more wheels over it to pack out the horse craters. Today we thought we would head out towards the Cottonwood trail head just to extend the ride a bit but didn't get too far beyond the trail junction before it started getting wet and we turned around and went back out to Washington. Has anyone checked out anything else thats ready to ride?????

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    How is Martin Luther King Jr weekend looking for St. George? Planning on heading down to get my much needed shred on......been dying with all this snow, besides the days I am up skiing....but thats beside the point.

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    If the weather holds the majority of St.George trails should be ok with a few wet spots to mindful of......I know I'm preaching to the choir, but if you come to a point where the trail turns to mush pack it up and ride elsewhere, there's plenty of options right now. As a general rule all the north facing hills/gullies are still wet with snow so those trails are guaranteed to be sloppy unless ridden in the early AM hours.....Zen, ###, and sections of Barrel Rolls (Rim Runner I'm told), GV loop and Stucki due to being pure clay. I have no idea what Hurricane/Zion are like right now, but given they're elevation I'd suspect not quite ready as of yet.
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    Yeah I fortunately understand about keeping trails intact and would be willing to wake up early if needs be.....I am just dying to get some more time on the saddle. What would be the best options though? I usually ride the green valley trails or paradise rim. What is the deal with gooseberry mesa as well? I have never had the opportunity/time to be able to check it out and heard it is great, but am aware that it is at a higher elevation and not usually great during the winter if even rideable.

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    Update.....

    JEM and Goulds are absolutely out of the question. Hurricane Rim from the Cell tower as and out and back is ridable.

    Gooseberry and Little Creek... NO.

    We had sun and wind today (Friday) so the lower stuff west of St George is starting to dry.
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    We hit Church Rocks today, including the dino loop, and it was absolutely awesome. Super dry and fast.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhale
    We hit Church Rocks today, including the dino loop, and it was absolutely awesome. Super dry and fast.!
    By noon yesterday there wasn't a spot in the parking lot... EVERYONE was there. Riding back to the track was like a reception line.. Hi Bob..Hi Jullie...Hi Sam.. Hey ya Morgan...

    Sidewinder and Barrel Roll have a tiny bit of mud but are good to go. Did a couple of loops today. Hit it!
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    Yeah, we started at noon an had to park out on the asphalt by the beer distributor and ride under the highway. it wasn't too bad riding in, but coming back out around 4p.m. it was crazy.

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    Rode dirt in St. George Tuesday (18th).

    Barrel Roll, Precipice, Sidewinder - no mud, awesomely tacky trails. Some ruts.

    Rim trails - no mud, a bit gooshy in the saddle leading to the upper trails, mostly good and tacky.

    Zen - dry and good.

    Church Rock and Prospector - Started at the Cottonwood trail head. no mud, perfectly tacky, the sand sections are dry and tough to ride.

    From Zen we looked down on Bear Claw Poppy and it looked dry, but hard to be sure and couldn't tell if it was rutted up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KanyonKris
    Rode dirt in St. George Tuesday (18th).

    Barrel Roll, Precipice, Sidewinder - no mud, awesomely tacky trails. Some ruts.

    Rim trails - no mud, a bit gooshy in the saddle leading to the upper trails, mostly good and tacky.

    Zen - dry and good.

    Church Rock and Prospector - Started at the Cottonwood trail head. no mud, perfectly tacky, the sand sections are dry and tough to ride.
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    Those are the "go-to" trails when it's been wet for sure.
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