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    New Moab Conditions 3-1

    Sorry, but the other one was getting messy!

    Only 30% chances of precip and some warmer days. Any thing shapin up there Moab folks? I'll take a friggn dry 2 miles and just go back and forth for 4 hours!
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    Yea, thinking the same thing! Is Amassa Back clear? That ride sees a lot of sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcharrette
    Yea, thinking the same thing! Is Amassa Back clear? That ride sees a lot of sun.
    I saw some pics from friends that rode Amasa yesterday. Looked like some small patches of snow but otherwise dry.
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    Summit weather is killing me.

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    Thanks Catch22, that's what I was hoping to hear. Will monitor weather this week and might have to make a trip next weekend
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    looks warm today!

    Good to see sun in the web cams and no clouds over the La Salles. Come on sunshine!
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    hit 50 yesterday?

    another warm one or what? Let us know!
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    Yes, another warm day yesterday and today is heading towards the mid-50s in the valley. The Practice Loop on Slickrock was mostly free of snow yesterday; just a few sections with old, icy snow that was rapidly melting!

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    hells yes

    Nice> Planing to ride Saturday. Get 1 in before Sundays expected precip!
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    I'm gonna camp Friday night but can someone recommend a really cheap hotel in the Fruita or Moab area that is dog friendly for Thursday night?

    Is the Sovereign area drying up?
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    How is LPS? I don't mind riding some snow and would expect the notch and snotch to be pretty snowed in but is the rest buried as well? I'd assume that Porcupine would likely be pretty ok itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt
    I'm gonna camp Friday night but can someone recommend a really cheap hotel in the Fruita or Moab area that is dog friendly for Thursday night?

    Is the Sovereign area drying up?
    What is "really cheap?"

    Most hotels in Moab up their rates on March 1, so you are not going to find anything cheap at this point. For example, the Redstone, one of the cheaper places in Moab, just bumped their rate to $89/night. The Silver Sage Inn is generally the cheapest in Moab, so you can try them.

    A less expensive option would be to stay in one of the little cabins at the Slickrock Campground or the KOA or one of the other campgrounds.

    If you really want a hotel, Fruita is probably going to be cheaper right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    How is LPS? I don't mind riding some snow and would expect the notch and snotch to be pretty snowed in but is the rest buried as well? I'd assume that Porcupine would likely be pretty ok itself.
    Good luck with that....

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    I stayed in the LaQuinta for $80/night. But that was last Sept. Really nice. They just upgraded the rooms, and Dog friendly, with no pet deposit. Not sure if that qualifies as "really Cheap", but I'd rather spend a few extra bucks and not stay in a fleabag.

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    Super 8 in Fruita is pretty cheap and dog friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    How is LPS? I don't mind riding some snow and would expect the notch and snotch to be pretty snowed in but is the rest buried as well? I'd assume that Porcupine would likely be pretty ok itself.
    LPS would be great right now> on skis. Heard, what waist deep snow in the foothills there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmeyer
    Super 8 in Fruita is pretty cheap and dog friendly.
    Too bad the trails are either muddy or snowy from the sounds of it

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    That Super 8 is perfect though. I'll be making the drive Thursday night so I'll stay there on the way to Moab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt
    That Super 8 is perfect though. I'll be making the drive Thursday night so I'll stay there on the way to Moab.
    The Balanced Rock in Fruita is another cheap, dog friendly option. Might save you a few bucks over the Super 8 if you don't need the pool. I usually go ther if it's just me and the dog, if wife and child are with me we go for the Super 8.
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    Warm again?

    wow, 44*F at 6:45 am. ? thats promissing> hope the precip evades tonight and tomorrow!
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    An afternoon and evening rain would be a godsend, since the temps will be decently warm and the snow will melt several thousand feet higher than town. Worth it in the long run.

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    true

    Just hopin that I can get in a few dry miles on Amassa and Slickrock on saturday.
    Moab is the methadone clinic; I am the junkie and the weather gods hold the keys to open the damn clinic so I can have my fix!
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    Hoping to come over tomorrow from GJ to do the Slickrock--what are the chances of this happening?

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    New to the forum thing, but doing Amasa Back in an Hour. Should have a trail update for everyone. I just had to get out of Breck. Let me know if anyone makes it to Moab. I will be here till Saturday evening.

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    Let us know if that "Jackson" Trail is rideable.

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    Amasa is Ridable

    Hey folks - Just got done with Amasa back. Its fully ridable to pothole arch. I didn't do Jacksons - Still looks a little snowy. Have fun!

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    Massive improvement after yesterday's warmer rain. Gonna ride Amasa myself tomorrow, maybe onto Rockstacker but not Jackson's.

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    So when's porc rim gonna be good to go? (not asking about how much snow's there now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBat
    So when's porc rim gonna be good to go? (not asking about how much snow's there now)

    April 3rd in the afternoon, probably 3.30 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    April 3rd in the afternoon, probably 3.30 or so.
    I think they are blasting that big rock out of the way on April 3rd, and will have the trail closed.

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    Amasa was sweet on Friday. Didn't try 'stacker or Jackson's.


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    Is that Tyson Kaman?
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    Thanks Noah! Trip is a go now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt
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    St. Patty's Conditions

    How we looking this week?
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    I rode slickrock last weekend...was one of the only ones out there (on Sunday) due to the rain. I've NEVER seen so much water on the trail before. Some of the puddles were 18 inches deep. I was told by the fellas at PSB that Amasa is good to go.

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    Moab

    Just left moab today after 3 days of riding. Rode Amasa back, slickrock and pushed up porcupine rim for a couple of hours to ride the backside. No shuttles are running but met some folks who walked the 3 miles of snow in top so it's definately doable right now.

    Also did baby steps (which was rather boring) some hikes up the spines at redcliffs and some excellent DH trails.

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    Everything north of town is dry, bordering on dusty. Had a great time on the moto & mtb Sun, Mon.
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    FYI -
    If you find yourself on a trail that has new signage (like CLOSED in bright red paint). Turn around!
    The Ranger is serious about giving tickets. Mandatory court appearance and a hefty fine.
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

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    any one know the conditions of the white rim loop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
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    If you find yourself on a trail that has new signage (like CLOSED in bright red paint). Turn around!
    The Ranger is serious about giving tickets. Mandatory court appearance and a hefty fine.
    Speaking of which, have the 3 singletracks off the Bar M Trail south of the gas station near soveriegn (Circle O, Rockin A, and Bar B) always been closed to motos? They're COMPLETELY on slickrock so motos can't cause erosion and I thought I remembered riding them before. I was kind of pissed to get all the way down there to see that they're closed.
    To my knowledge, these are the only bike trails in Moab closed to dirt bikes. Hopefully it's not the start of a new trend.
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    Not talkin moto trails.
    This is definitely new.
    I, too, was rather pissed.
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

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    What trails did you see "closed" on? This means "closed to everyone, re-vegetating"?
    The only places I've seen that are the random ATV spurs that have been getting closed all over the area in recent years. That's understandable since they usually don't go anywhere and there are more established options.
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    Not much vegetation or crust in the area. 90% on slickrock.



    The explaination I recieved was that the trail was not "surveyed and signed." Yes, like all the jeep and moto tracks are "surveyed and signed" in the area

    The ranger was proud to tell us they have already made an example of a local guide by laying a heavy fine down.

    Complete crap.
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    I know that stretch of highway but haven't been to that spot. Did you get there from the Poison Spider trail head?
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    No. I'll just leave it at...
    If you see bright red paint on the trail that says CLOSED, and it wasn't there in the fall...
    Turn around and return to the jeep road, rejoin the trail at the summit/cliff and procede from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt
    Speaking of which, have the 3 singletracks off the Bar M Trail south of the gas station near soveriegn (Circle O, Rockin A, and Bar B) always been closed to motos? They're COMPLETELY on slickrock so motos can't cause erosion and I thought I remembered riding them before. I was kind of pissed to get all the way down there to see that they're closed.
    To my knowledge, these are the only bike trails in Moab closed to dirt bikes. Hopefully it's not the start of a new trend.
    Bar-B is not completely slickrock by any stretch of the imagination.

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    You're right about Circle 0 and Rockin A. All slickrock.
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    Oh yeah, now I remember Bar B. We actually rode all of Circle O on our dirtbikes and when we got to Rockin A saw the no motos sign. My friend said it was the most fun trail we rode the whole trip but the line is REALLY faded, easy to lose at moto speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    No. I'll just leave it at...
    If you see bright red paint on the trail that says CLOSED, and it wasn't there in the fall...
    Turn around and return to the jeep road, rejoin the trail at the summit/cliff and procede from there.
    I really don't like the sound of that, reminds me of a certain color dotted trail that's much more fun and suitable for bike travel than the jeep road.
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    Thanks for the pic, johnnyspoke. We roade M, O, and A this past weekend but neglected to hit B. I was completely unimpressed. We should've just ridden Bar-B!

    We also rode Behind the Rocks to Pritchet Canyon on Sunday. That was in excellent condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    Thanks for the pic, johnnyspoke. We roade M, O, and A this past weekend but neglected to hit B. I was completely unimpressed. We should've just ridden Bar-B!

    We also rode Behind the Rocks to Pritchet Canyon on Sunday. That was in excellent condition.
    Yeah, I think B is the best one out there. Too bad it's not longer.
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    Rode Sun-Wed

    Rode Amassa, Slick, Bar's, & Sov> All were good with 0 snow or ice. I did hear that there is still waist deep to thigh deep drifts of melting snow on the rim. Gonna be till late April on any chance of even UPS i would think.
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    Is anyone running Porcupine Shuttles yet?

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    LPS is not ready

    LPS is not ready
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    But Porcupine Classic is in great shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    No. I'll just leave it at...
    If you see bright red paint on the trail that says CLOSED, and it wasn't there in the fall...
    Turn around and return to the jeep road, rejoin the trail at the summit/cliff and procede from there.

    "Rejoining the trail" at that location last Sunday would have resulted in "Hello 2 Mr. Rangers hiding in the bushes" at that location.

    I actually had no plans of proceeding anyways,(they had just put down some red paint there too), but visitors should let that trail rest or be ready for a serious buzz-kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubystreet
    "Rejoining the trail" at that location last Sunday would have resulted in "Hello 2 Mr. Rangers hiding in the bushes" at that location.

    I actually had no plans of proceeding anyways,(they had just put down some red paint there too), but visitors should let that trail rest or be ready for a serious buzz-kill.
    Funny that they would prioritize that as an area of need during the openning weekend of the Jeep Safari. Hopefully they hurry to give it recognized status like Rockstacker soon, maybe without the continuous painted line this time. I know there was closed painted in white the first couple times I rode ol blue, I guess they really mean business when they switch to red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubystreet
    "Rejoining the trail" at that location last Sunday would have resulted in "Hello 2 Mr. Rangers hiding in the bushes" at that location.

    I actually had no plans of proceeding anyways,(they had just put down some red paint there too), but visitors should let that trail rest or be ready for a serious buzz-kill.

    Jeebus. These guys got anything better to do?

    BLM must be broke, did they not get a stim check?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR
    Jeebus. These guys got anything better to do?

    BLM must be broke, did they not get a stim check?
    I would venture a guess that some people got hurt there and BLM got involved (after all it's pretty remote for a while). I know I almost broke some ribs doing an A-line hip and failed at the hip part. On top of that, there is some serious exposure in places.

    Springtime is a good time to revisit Poison Spider, though, while the sand pits are still packed down.

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    LPS might be ready next weekend

    People rode it today. I walked along the rim for a while and there are still snow drifts but nothing to bad as long as you ride the snow. However, I didn't go that far and I expect that the notch/snotch area would have a fair bit of snow.

    Porcupine itself is snow free and just one patch of problematic mud that will be gone by next weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
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    But Porcupine Class is in great shape.
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    Holy crap, lookit that LPS signage. How long's that been there? I remember when...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    People rode it today. I walked along the rim for a while and there are still snow drifts but nothing to bad as long as you ride the snow. However, I didn't go that far and I expect that the notch/snotch area would have a fair bit of snow.

    Porcupine itself is snow free and just one patch of problematic mud that will be gone by next weekend.
    zzsean:

    Thanks for sharing the pictures. It would be COOL if someone did a video of the LPS ride now.

    I would think the snotch would be the best way to go at this point since it would eliminate that climb out of the drop section below the notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc
    zzsean:

    Thanks for sharing the pictures. It would be COOL if someone did a video of the LPS ride now.

    I would think the snotch would be the best way to go at this point since it would eliminate that climb out of the drop section below the notch.

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    It is on my agenda for this coming weekend. Taking my helmet cam is an excellent idea I will try and remember.

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    Hearing that LPS is still knee deep in snow? No body has shovels out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by breckseth
    Hearing that LPS is still knee deep in snow? No body has shovels out there?
    It was knee deep right next to the cattle grate but much better as soon as you got out to the rim. Riding it Saturday, will post an update/photos after that.

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    Planning a trip - when is the best time of year to ride?

    On my list to ride Moab and wanted to plan ahead... but I need a rough idea as to when is the best time of year to ride there?

    I was hoping to venture out this year...

    Any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated!
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    September/October would be my 2c, if you can wait that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysty
    On my list to ride Moab and wanted to plan ahead... but I need a rough idea as to when is the best time of year to ride there?

    I was hoping to venture out this year...

    Any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated!

    handa down, if you like Aspens in the fall, lower temps, lower crowds, all the trails open from 11,000 ft. down to the Colorado. you didn't say how much time you'll have, but if you've got 2 weeks, the last week of Sept. & 1rst. week of Oct., mainly because you won't miss the Aspens peaking. prime time.
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    Did somebody say Aspens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    It was knee deep right next to the cattle grate but much better as soon as you got out to the rim. Riding it Saturday, will post an update/photos after that.

    Keep those updates coming. I hope LPS and UPS are rideable by May 2nd.

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    The stream at the bottom of Jackson's was only 1" deep and 8' wide today. Could see a lot of snow up on the plateau that has LPS, UPS, Hazard County.
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    Rode LPS a couple of times this weekend. The rim sections are excellent.

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    The Notch has deep snow on it and on the backside making it treacherous to even walk.

    The Snotch bypass has about 50 yards of walk through snow but other than that is in excellent condition. Pretty much you walk the entry to the tight switch back and a little past that and then you are good to go.

    No details on UPS as we did not try it. the LPS section all along the rim is good so I imagine the open areas of UPS would be good but any protected areas would still have decent snow drifts to deal with. Kokopelli has some time, Hazard is a snow field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    Rode LPS a couple of times this weekend. The rim sections are excellent.

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    The Notch has deep snow on it and on the backside making it treacherous to even walk.

    The Snotch bypass has about 50 yards of walk through snow but other than that is in excellent condition. Pretty much you walk the entry to the tight switch back and a little past that and then you are good to go.

    No details on UPS as we did not try it. the LPS section all along the rim is good so I imagine the open areas of UPS would be good but any protected areas would still have decent snow drifts to deal with. Kokopelli has some time, Hazard is a snow field.
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    UPS is good to go, Kokopelli & hazard are not

    UPS is in great shape, but you can only access it by riding up it or up from sand flats rd via the kokopelli exit.
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    Hazard and Kokopelli are not ready, it is wet and muddy with snow drifts all the way to the bottom of Kokopelli.

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    Thanks Zzsean, that's exactly the info that I was looking for.
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    Wow. Still a bunch of snow. Looks like postponing my Moab trip until mid-late May is sounding better and better. Would love to add Hazard or at least UPS to the obligatory Porc shuttle.

    Hopefully the Dot conspiracy will be resolved by then too.
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    Can we get updated conditions on Amasa and Porc Rim for this weekend? Looks like a storm is blowing through the next couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIDE
    Can we get updated conditions on Amasa and Porc Rim for this weekend? Looks like a storm is blowing through the next couple of days.
    They will be fine, the only reason a storm now would affect conditions of Amasa and Porcupine would be if you were actually riding them during the storm. Since it is just isolated thunderstorms and a wind warning the trail conditions won't be affected.

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    Looking ahead to next weekend (May 1st), the forecast looks really crappy for my trip. They are calling for all kinds of rain. I rarely take vacations and when I do, the weather always ruins it. Hopefully something changes in the next week to bring in sunny 72º days, or my dream vacation is going to be a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    They will be fine, the only reason a storm now would affect conditions of Amasa and Porcupine would be if you were actually riding them during the storm. Since it is just isolated thunderstorms and a wind warning the trail conditions won't be affected.
    Good news. Weather should be good for sat/sun looks like.

    One question. I've ridden Amasa out/back but want to link up w/rock stacker/jackson this time. I was reading something about a creek crossing at the end that may be too deep during the spring. Do you think it will be too deep this w/e?

    I'm taking some newer riders and don't want to have hike them back out after coming all that way.. I may just send them back up Amasa and ride it myself, have them pick me up at the road.. Swimming with my 35lb could get real interesting though =X

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIDE
    Good news. Weather should be good for sat/sun looks like.

    One question. I've ridden Amasa out/back but want to link up w/rock stacker/jackson this time. I was reading something about a creek crossing at the end that may be too deep during the spring. Do you think it will be too deep this w/e?

    I'm taking some newer riders and don't want to have hike them back out after coming all that way.. I may just send them back up Amasa and ride it myself, have them pick me up at the road.. Swimming with my 35lb could get real interesting though =X
    I haven't been this spring yet, but someone reported that it was only ankle deep and maybe 8 feet wide when they crossed it a couple weeks ago. What the warm weather and rains will do to it .........???

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    I haven't been this spring yet, but someone reported that it was only ankle deep and maybe 8 feet wide when they crossed it a couple weeks ago. What the warm weather and rains will do to it .........???
    I just saw a few photos of the creek. Looks pretty mellow. I'll make sure to scout it out before we start our ride though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    Someone reported that it was only ankle deep and maybe 8 feet wide when they crossed it a couple weeks ago. What the warm weather and rains will do to it .........???
    That was me. It's best to ask a bike shop in town what the current water level is and remember that it changes quickly when there's thunderstorms in the area. At worst it's a knee-deep, shoulder the bike and wade through situation. It's at the very end of the trail, just before the parking lot so if you have water in the car you can wash your shoes off before the mud dries.

    Rock Stacker has a lot of sections that can only be ridden by an expert on a trials moto so you'll be walking some but it makes a nice connector/loop.

    Edit: Maybe we should stop posting in here and start a new thread, it's almost 2 months old!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt
    That was me. It's best to ask a bike shop in town what the current water level is and remember that it changes quickly when there's thunderstorms in the area. At worst it's a knee-deep, shoulder the bike and wade through situation. It's at the very end of the trail, just before the parking lot so if you have water in the car you can wash your shoes off before the mud dries.

    Rock Stacker has a lot of sections that can only be ridden by an expert on a trials moto so you'll be walking some but it makes a nice connector/loop.

    Edit: Maybe we should stop posting in here and start a new thread, it's almost 2 months old!
    Knee deep is mellow. I'm taking 3 female riders with me, they should be able to handle that =. I'll just carry their bikes across.
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    leaving tomorrow for fruita, then moab on tuesday. keep the trail updates coming!

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    Arrive in Moab next Wednesday for our first time. The weather calls for rain...assuming there are breaks in the weather, can you ride the trails shortly after the rain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmtb
    Arrive in Moab next Wednesday for our first time. The weather calls for rain...assuming there are breaks in the weather, can you ride the trails shortly after the rain?
    Most Moab trails are awesome after rain. Sovereign can be goopy mud after really heavy rain but other trails tend to just get better wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelandjt
    That was me. It's best to ask a bike shop in town what the current water level is and remember that it changes quickly when there's thunderstorms in the area. At worst it's a knee-deep, shoulder the bike and wade through situation. It's at the very end of the trail, just before the parking lot so if you have water in the car you can wash your shoes off before the mud dries.

    Rock Stacker has a lot of sections that can only be ridden by an expert on a trials moto so you'll be walking some but it makes a nice connector/loop.

    Edit: Maybe we should stop posting in here and start a new thread, it's almost 2 months old!
    Two springs ago during a really wet spring I assumed waist deep was worst case only to find nasty stagnant water that had to have been well over head deep and you couldn't see where it ended, probably at least 100 yards across. That was a pretty bad flood year though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmtb
    Arrive in Moab next Wednesday for our first time. The weather calls for rain...assuming there are breaks in the weather, can you ride the trails shortly after the rain?
    The NOAA forecast is looking pretty great for next week right now, hopefully it holds up.
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    Just back home after 10 days in Moab/Fruita with a group of ~20 and the biggest pain was the weather forecasting.. What tha heck?? They kept calling for rain and worse for the last 3 days and it was sunny most days. The forecast had some people wanting to go home early to save some hotel bills but causing some consternation with their car pool buddies. But it only rained one night and the trails dried up pretty fast.

    Moral of this story: don't leave early and wake up and look outside, you'll probably be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park2
    Just back home after 10 days in Moab/Fruita with a group of ~20 and the biggest pain was the weather forecasting.. What tha heck?? They kept calling for rain and worse for the last 3 days and it was sunny most days. The forecast had some people wanting to go home early to save some hotel bills but causing some consternation with their car pool buddies. But it only rained one night and the trails dried up pretty fast.

    Moral of this story: don't leave early and wake up and look outside, you'll probably be fine.
    That is good news. I am going to arrive in Moab this Friday. They are calling for all sorts of apocalyptic weather (cold, rain, T storms, etc) for almost the entire time I will be there (Fri-Wed). Hopefully the forecasters are wrong... again.

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    any updates on Hazzard, weather looks to be warm this week and Im 10 days out...

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    I highly doubt hazzard will be remotely close to rideable in 10 days. There's still 17 inches of snow at 9,500 feet. The Kokopelli drop-off is at 8,300 feet, so that may even be pushing it. That snowpack is the equivalent of 7.5 inches of water, so it will probably take a while to dry out even after the snow melts. Here's the nearby SnowTel station at 9,500 feet.http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sn...ays=7&state=ut

    Quote Originally Posted by sinatorj
    any updates on Hazzard, weather looks to be warm this week and Im 10 days out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerx40
    I highly doubt hazzard will be remotely close to rideable in 10 days. There's still 17 inches of snow at 9,500 feet. The Kokopelli drop-off is at 8,300 feet, so that may even be pushing it. That snowpack is the equivalent of 7.5 inches of water, so it will probably take a while to dry out even after the snow melts. Here's the nearby SnowTel station at 9,500 feet.http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sn...ays=7&state=ut
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    kinda what I was thinkin, hoping for kokopelli.

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    Arrive in Moab tomorrow, do I need to change plans?

    After gathering some great trail advise on this forum the past week on trail choices, we arrive in Moab tomorrow night to crappy weather! My wife and I will be riding Moab until next Monday, so on the following trails, which ones should be fine during rainy weather and which ones should we wait for drier days...
    Sovereign
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    Slickrock
    Are these ridable with rain in the forecast?
    We're flexible and plan to add some National Park visits, etc., but riding trumps hiking and sightseeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmtb
    After gathering some great trail advise on this forum the past week on trail choices, we arrive in Moab tomorrow night to crappy weather! My wife and I will be riding Moab until next Monday, so on the following trails, which ones should be fine during rainy weather and which ones should we wait for drier days...
    Sovereign
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    Porcupine/LPS
    Slickrock
    Are these ridable with rain in the forecast?
    We're flexible and plan to add some National Park visits, etc., but riding trumps hiking and sightseeing.
    I wouldn't want to jinx you, but I'll bet the weather will be better than the forecast you've seen says.

    Sovereign is the one of those four you'd want to avoid if wet.

    If a big storm happens overnight or is threatening, then you'd probably want to save Porcupine for another day.

    Slickrock and Amasa Back are actually pretty good when wet. Wet sand can sometimes stick to tires and cause people issues on Slickrock when it's raining, but it doesn't seem like you're planning to be out in the rain anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frejwilk
    I wouldn't want to jinx you, but I'll bet the weather will be better than the forecast you've seen says.

    Sovereign is the one of those four you'd want to avoid if wet.

    If a big storm happens overnight or is threatening, then you'd probably want to save Porcupine for another day.

    Slickrock and Amasa Back are actually pretty good when wet. Wet sand can sometimes stick to tires and cause people issues on Slickrock when it's raining, but it doesn't seem like you're planning to be out in the rain anyway.

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    Fred is giving good advice. Slickrock would be the best because it's all rock and Amasa Back is also very rocky so it would be good.

    There is a soil above the UPS on the Kokopelli Trail and Hazard called Betonite Clay. If you ever get into when it's wet you will never forget the experience. I assume there is also something like it out on Soverign.

    If it does rain and you get a chance to ride shortly afterward the water running off the steep slickrock areas is unbelieveable.

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    Flew from Oakland to SLC this afternoon, and then drove through a snow blizzard with the temp @ 28 degrees over the pass on Hwy 6 into Price...the temp had risen to 75 degrees and made it to Moab in 3 1/2 hours from SLC! It's 79 degrees, windy at 6:30pm in Moab.
    Hoping the weather holds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmtb
    Flew from Oakland to SLC this afternoon, and then drove through a snow blizzard with the temp @ 28 degrees over the pass on Hwy 6 into Price...the temp had risen to 75 degrees and made it to Moab in 3 1/2 hours from SLC! It's 79 degrees, windy at 6:30pm in Moab.
    Hoping the weather holds.
    It will be interesting what you put together for tomorrow's ride. Curious if there will be any lightening, that is always an interesting part of Moab riding. Looks like it might rain so it will be interesting how much. Slickrock might be the best option for the first ride if it's not too windy and raining too much.

    Riding in sandy conditions would put a couple months on your drive train if it's raining.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmtb
    Flew from Oakland to SLC this afternoon, and then drove through a snow blizzard with the temp @ 28 degrees over the pass on Hwy 6 into Price...the temp had risen to 75 degrees and made it to Moab in 3 1/2 hours from SLC! It's 79 degrees, windy at 6:30pm in Moab.
    Hoping the weather holds.
    How are the roads in that area? We're leaving tomorrow, do I need chains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch22
    Two springs ago during a really wet spring I assumed waist deep was worst case only to find nasty stagnant water that had to have been well over head deep and you couldn't see where it ended, probably at least 100 yards across. That was a pretty bad flood year though.
    That's what my group found in early May '08. Clambering around the tributary drainage with bikes on our shoulders was a crappy way to end that ride.

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