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    Moving To Park City????

    Hey Anyone that lives in Park City how is the riding there, I here it is pretty sweet, I'm thinking of trying out your town for a year! When do the mountains get dry enough to ride on? Also is there some lower elevation rides I can do until the snow melts there. Thinking on moving out there on May 15th.

    Also how is the riding community in Park will it be easy to meet peeps in the summer, I do All mountain riding and XC.

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    Personally I could ride there every day over the summer and not get bored. I'm not exactly sure when the season starts, but you're no more than an hour or two from warmer rides. I don't know about the riding community up there, but everyone I have run across on the trail has been cool.

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    PC has some of the best riding I have seen anywhere

    From June to Oct. Its the Other 7 months of the year where there is no riding available that are hard to swallow. There is a fairly extensive lower elevation trail system in PC. Flying Dog trail, 24/7 trail, round valley and others will be good to go on may 15th barring divine intervention. The Riding community in PC is world class to go along with the world class singletrack.
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    Prk city is definetly off the hook.. the mid mountain trail is alot of fun and the trail up spiro to the base of jupiter lift is alot of fun especially inn the hot hot summer. you can jump in nude and cool off then ride to the top of the crest trail. Bobs basin freeride park is alot of fun. too.. just get a map from jans and explore.

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    Damn Now I'm really looking forward to it! Sounds sick, it so hard to just pack up and move, when you never been to a place before, but Park Sounds pretty sweet! Hopefully it will be easy to meet some cool riding peeps there!

    Lee Leavitt What are you talking about you can jump in nude is there a swimming spot there or something?

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    Park City rocks, I work there. Only one trail is open as of right now, and you can only ride half of it. Few more weeks of warmth and sun and we'll be riding crazy singletrack all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SporkfromKFC
    Park City rocks, I work there. Only one trail is open as of right now, and you can only ride half of it. Few more weeks of warmth and sun and we'll be riding crazy singletrack all day long.

    Sweet So living there is pretty awesome then? I can't wait for the riding there, Socal riding is getting kinda old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Athlete
    Sweet So living there is pretty awesome then? I can't wait for the riding there, Socal riding is getting kinda old.
    I actually live right on the other side of the mountain. ~20 minute drive. But yes, PC is sweet.

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    If I can only own one type of Mt Bike, what would you recommend for park city. Mostly I will be doing all mountain riding. But I'm thinking of getting new bike in a couple weeks.

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    If you are new to Utah or even just PC, you need to become familiar with this website....www.utahmountainbiking.com. They have a ton of trail maps and trail information. Plus, on the forum side, the trail conditions thread is very helpful in passing on or learning the current conditions of almost any trail out there.

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    oooh Thanks I can spend my time reading that until the snow melts!

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    Lighter is better.

    Bring your climbing legs with you to the wasatch. Most of the rides mentioned (Midmountain Trail, PCMR to jupiter bowl, Spiro to the Crest, and most everything in the area have 2000+ feet of climbing. If you want one bike to do it all a sub 25 lb 5 incher works really well.

    Remember the PC also has lift served mountain biking. I think the best option is to have 2 bikes, a light short travel XC rig for those long climbs, and a longer travel bike for Shuttle AM trails and lift served riding. What bike do you have now??
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    Right now I'm thinking of getting a Trance x2, but then I started debating on the Reign (but thought maybe it was too much travel) Or Gary Fisher HiFi Pro. So far I'm leaning toward the Trance......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Athlete
    Right now I'm thinking of getting a Trance x2, but then I started debating on the Reign (but thought maybe it was too much travel) Or Gary Fisher HiFi Pro. So far I'm leaning toward the Trance......

    Get the Reign.... Don't second guess it! I ride a 37lb 6.5" travel bike all over the mountains here in Vail. We have rides that climb 2000' in 5 miles. I do them all the time. The Reign or any 28-35lb 6" travel bike is perfect for the mountainous terrain of the Rockies. Cause remember after all the hard climbing, you get to bomb down it. Unless you really want to spend 5000+ dollars to get a "sub" 25lb 5" travel FS bike.

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    I respectfully disagree with worm.

    Yes you can ride a 37 lb bike up a 3000 foot climb, but those riding friends that you are hoping to makeare going to get awfully sick of waiting for you, and your number is going to get lost alot. Good luck talking the 37 lb bike crowd into pedaling up to jupiter bowl with you. I suspect they will climb for about 3 minutes before returning to the car and buying a lift ticket at DV. You are not going to enjoy the world class XC trails in PC with a heavy slow bike. There is just too much climbing. At times it seems like it never ends. Climb Sprio to Mid mountain and you can keep going to Jupiter Bowl. Climb to Jupiter Bowl and you can climb up to the crest. Once your at the Crest you can climb puke hill and go down the crest but then you have to climb to get back where you came from.

    Worms advice makes he think about that guy I always see on the trail that is trying to get his girl/wife into riding. He has a 5000 dollar 22 lb rocket and she has his old 50 lb boat anchor that does not fit her and shes one some climb that I struggle to make. I wonder why shes not having any fun.

    Maybe the best thing to do is wait until you get here and see what there is to be seen and then decide what bike you think is best. I know if I was in Park City at giant dealer I would be looking straight at Anthems. Im not kidding you are going to spend alot of time climbing if you ride in PC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalfaraway
    Yes you can ride a 37 lb bike up a 3000 foot climb, but those riding friends that you are hoping to makeare going to get awfully sick of waiting for you, and your number is going to get lost alot. Good luck talking the 37 lb bike crowd into pedaling up to jupiter bowl with you. I suspect they will climb for about 3 minutes before returning to the car and buying a lift ticket at DV. You are not going to enjoy the world class XC trails in PC with a heavy slow bike. There is just too much climbing. At times it seems like it never ends. Climb Sprio to Mid mountain and you can keep going to Jupiter Bowl. Climb to Jupiter Bowl and you can climb up to the crest. Once your at the Crest you can climb puke hill and go down the crest but then you have to climb to get back where you came from.

    Worms advice makes he think about that guy I always see on the trail that is trying to get his girl/wife into riding. He has a 5000 dollar 22 lb rocket and she has his old 50 lb boat anchor that does not fit her and shes one some climb that I struggle to make. I wonder why shes not having any fun.

    Maybe the best thing to do is wait until you get here and see what there is to be seen and then decide what bike you think is best. I know if I was in Park City at giant dealer I would be looking straight at Anthems. Im not kidding you are going to spend alot of time climbing if you ride in PC
    Dude, I disrespectfully disagree and think you are reaching a bit. especially about riding a 22lb hardtail. But I do know exactly what kind of rider you are and just because you aren't strong enough to ride a heavier bike doesn't mean others can't. I know guys on 40lb rigs who could ride at your pace all day long. I don't know what kind of ahole elitist fsticks you ride with but the guys I ride with don't care how fast we ride. We ride for fun not to beat our last lap. I climb everything and all things. You sound like the typical XC hammerhead weight weenie that wears a heart rate monitor. No offense right but anyone who would mandate a 25lb bike is obviously a XC hammerhead! I live in the same terrain you ride in PC. The Giant Reign weighs around 29lbs depending on build and is perfect for PC terrain. And any fit rider can ride it for miles. Some people choose their rigs with the DH in mind as well. You remind me of the guys who ride up to the top of Vail and take the Gondola back down.
    I couldn't imagine why the OP would want to ride with you or your "friends" in the first place. You sound like a bunch of dbags.
    I sure hope that most Park City riders are NOT like you.

    Hey DirtyAthlete, Stop on by in Vail, We'll ride with you all day and even wait for you if you are slower than us. We will talk about girls and beer instead of Gu gels and shaving our legs. I guarantee that you will appreciate the slacker HA of the Reign and more travel on the trails we ride. And we will even call you for another ride.
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    1. You don't have any idea what kind of rider I am who I ride with or how strong I may be.

    2. There are very few people that could keep up with me on a 40 lb bike. I am by no means the fastest rider around, but a 40 lb bike is a huge hinderance.

    3. I never wear an HRM, but always have my Garmin GPS, and Ipod touch with the neat wristwatch that controls it,

    4. This Forum is for giving opinons. I shared mine. Let the OP decide if I am an elitist fstick dbag. I hope that most riders in vail and not like you and get all pissy because someone rides differently then them and has a more expenisve bike. I love biking and I know alot about it I have ridden every inch of the 200+ miles of trail in the PC area because I enjoy the hell out if it, and I enjoy it more on a light bike. I ride with local XC racers who put the hurt on me on thier rest days, Beginners that just got thier first real MTB, and my 60 year old father who I am greatful is willing and able to spend a day on a trail with me. Don't assume I only ride with one type of person, and f*** you for thinking you know anything about what type of person I am from 2 paragraphs on a forum. . I love this sport and share it with anyone that wants to go with me (and some people that don't IE my aforementiond Girlfriend) The OP is asking for opinions about the area, not if people with lightbikes are fstick dbag's, so can the name calling its not helping anyone and is just distracting from how great of a way to share information these forums are.

    5. Welcome to utah whatever bike you bring with you. Hope to see you out on the trail enjoying the amazing area.

    6. 25lbs is hardly a weight-weenie bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalfaraway
    1. You don't have any idea what kind of rider I am who I ride with or how strong I may be.

    2. There are very few people that could keep up with me on a 40 lb bike. I am by no means the fastest rider around, but a 40 lb bike is a huge hinderance.

    3. I never wear an HRM, but always have my Garmin GPS, and Ipod touch with the neat wristwatch that controls it,

    4. This Forum is for giving opinons. I shared mine. Let the OP decide if I am an elitist fstick dbag. I hope that most riders in vail and not like you and get all pissy because
    someone rides differently then them and has a more expenisve bike. I love biking and I know alot about it I have ridden every inch of the 200+ miles of trail in the PC area because I enjoy the hell out if it, and I enjoy it more on a light bike. I ride with local XC racers who put the hurt on me on thier rest days, Beginners that just got thier first real MTB, and my 60 year old father who I am greatful is willing and able to spend a day on a trail with me. Don't assume I only ride with one type of person, and f*** you for thinking you know anything about what type of person I am from 2 paragraphs on a forum. . I love this sport and share it with anyone that wants to go with me (and some people that don't IE my aforementiond Girlfriend) The OP is asking for opinions about the area, not if people with lightbikes are fstick dbag's, so can the name calling its not helping anyone and is just distracting from how great of a way to share information these forums are.

    5. Welcome to utah whatever bike you bring with you. Hope to see you out on the trail enjoying the amazing area.

    6. 25lbs is hardly a weight-weenie bike.
    I totally understand that the OP asked about opi's about the area, I answered it succinctly in my first post. Your the one who had to insinuate that I was an inconsiderate jerk to my wife when riding thus showing me what type of person you are. Just cause I disagreed with your opinion.

    I don't care what type of trails you ride, or if your Ipod is blue or green or if your bike is made of paper mache' and weighs 5lbs. Mine cost $4000 and weighs 38lbs. So I will say it again. You do not need a 25lb FS bike to enjoy and thrive on Rocky Mountain trails.

    I wasn't the one who said that if you couldn't keep up with the group they wouldn't call you for more rides.

    And yes 25lbs is very light for a 5" full suspension bike. It's not the lightest but getting to 25lbs is very expensive for most people.
    The Trance XO XTR build is $5700 msrp and weighs 25.83 pounds.
    The IBIS mojo sl XT is $4500 msrp and weighs 25.52lbs.
    SantaCruz Blur LT XTR build/Fox 32 Float is $5800 msrp and weighs 25.7lbs.

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    I think it might help if the OP shared what his rides are about. Is it about the up or is it about the down? Or is it about how far you can go and how fast? Or are you just wanting something that can do it all?

    Personally I ride a 30-35 lb 6"+ travel bike all over around SLC, PC, LCC, BCC, etc... I also have a 40+ lb DH bike. I used to have a sub 30 lb 4" travel XC bike, but I sold it because I never enjoyed my rides as much on it, climbing was nice and much faster, but descending on it was a massive buzzkill. To me it is all about the down, and I'll suffer and take longer to get up things if I have to, but that's not going to stop me from doing long rides with lots of climbing.

    Do I care if spandex heart rate monitor wearing racers with seatpost to the moon on descents beat me by a large margin up a climb? No. Do I care if their I-pods keep them from hearing me on the way down when I'm 2 feet of their a$$ screaming at them to please give me room to pass? Yes. Do I ride with those guys? No. No matter what your riding style and goals you will be able to find like-minded folks to ride with out here. There are trails for every type of rider around here, and lots of them.

    I must say though, after living and riding all over CO growning up and riding in many places around this planet, the PC XC riders overall have been the most rude and selfish bunch I've ever come across. Not all of them, but I've had many run-ins with jerks up there. One example coming down John's trail a few years ago, we stop at the intersection part way down, and guy is climbing up it so we move off to the side and my friend says "Hows it going?" and the guy climbing replies "It'd be a lot better if you'd get the [email protected] outt my way!" I've had several examples of that sort of exchange, and I can't even count the number of times someones pride won't let them pull over so faster descenders can pass them....

    But the riding is good enough that I'll take the bad for the good.

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    Thanks for the replies everyone, this has giving me a lot to think on.

    I really think i'm going be doing a lot of all mountain riding there, I want to be able to go up and bomb down down as well. It sorta sounds like 6" may be too heavy and 4" not enough? what about the good ol Giant Trance with 5"? I may just have to get two bikes like Bortis Yelltzen, if i can swing it.

    But Financially I was hoping just to get one well rounded bike, that can handle the terrain out there, for my first summer there, then next year I can always get a second ride. I guess it is hard to judge since I have yet to ride out there, but I can say one thing for sure.....I CAN'T WAIT!

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    Park city

    Your a lucky guy i travel every summer to PC from Ireland for 3 weeks of single track trashing, spliting time between PC and Sun Valley.

    youll have a blast also the beer is good if a little weak

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    Easy there boys...no need for a flame war, were just talkin' bikes.

    As far as the OP's original question, if you like XC style mountain biking you are going to love Park City. Been riding around here for about 10 years and can't say I've been any where better. Not to say there aren't more techy/freeride options (there are) but the vast majority of PC riding is on relatively smooth singletrack with a **** load of climbing. Everybody has different priorities, but for me, riding a 35lb 6+ inch travel bike is overkill for the local terrain. Kinda like driving a framing nail with a sledge hammer...it works and it's fun for a few swings, but man, are you going to get tired. Unless you are planning on a lift pass at Deer Valley, I'd aim toward a lighter, mid travel (5"ish) all mountain bike. The Trance is a nice bike, and would be great ride for the PC/Wasatch front area. If you haven't bought a bike by the time you get here, several local shops have demos to rent. Gives you the chance to try several bikes and YOU can decide what works best for the local trails and your style of riding. Pretty sure Cole Sport was demoing Giants last season, and I know Jan's had Santa Cruz and Ibis.

    Good luck on the move and we'll see you on the trail.

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    Park City's awesome. I've been in Park City for a year, and lived in Cottonwood Heights for a year prior to that (down in the city). The mountain biking is amazing, the skiing is amazing (I'm a ski instructor in the winter), and the town in the summer is, well, amazing. To be honest, I like the place more in the summer when most the people leave.

    You'll dig it here. Get yourself some 3.2 beer and enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Athlete
    Thanks for the replies everyone, this has giving me a lot to think on.

    I really think i'm going be doing a lot of all mountain riding there, I want to be able to go up and bomb down down as well. It sorta sounds like 6" may be too heavy and 4" not enough? what about the good ol Giant Trance with 5"? I may just have to get two bikes like Bortis Yelltzen, if i can swing it.

    But Financially I was hoping just to get one well rounded bike, that can handle the terrain out there, for my first summer there, then next year I can always get a second ride. I guess it is hard to judge since I have yet to ride out there, but I can say one thing for sure.....I CAN'T WAIT!
    There is a huge xc crowd in PC, a good size AM crowd, and a growing bigger travel crowd. My ride is under 36lbs and has tons of travel (more than the reign). I think you may end up going to Moab, St George,... and riding like many of us do. In those places 6" is widely considered a minimum amount of travel. In Park City you can spend seemingly all day climbing, hence the huge number of small travel light bikes with spandex.
    Personally, I think the reign would be an awesome choice cause you can do everything and the only limit would be speed on the non-technical climbing. I'm sure whatever you chose, you will have a blast!

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    there is a little lake up there at the base of jupiter lift, but you have to hit it late in the summer when it is hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SporkfromKFC
    I actually live right on the other side of the mountain. ~20 minute drive. But yes, PC is sweet.
    Do you live in kamas? or somewhere else over the mountain 20 minutes away?

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    A really good bike for park city would be a ventana el cilclon, its is an awesome all mountain bike, chumba evo also makes a sick frame. Turner, just what ever, get out and ride.

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    I think a good bike would be a around 28-32 pounds, get some clip ins especially for park city's hard climbs, get a light front fork that fits the bike you have weight wise and length wise. I would recommend an air fork if your not that aggressive of a rider, cuz that'll save you some weight. If your into drops and hucking i would get a coil fork.

    I have a fox Talas rlc, i want to upgrade it to an affordable coil fork. Any suggestions?

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    and i totally agree, park city is full of pricks and its ruining the sport, riding should be enjoyable and social. Native riders represent the sport really well, its the rich a holes who are pricks, I totally disagree with ipods, and other things on the trail that is a distraction, how about the sound of friends or the sound of the mountain. thats what i like. If anyone wants to ride this summer email me at [email protected]

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    my chumba evo with fox talas 32 in forks is a 6 inch taravel bike and right at 30 pounds.. awesome bike. don't worry about the weight, worry about the geometry.

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    Get something you feel comfortable peddling. Most the trails even some of the shuttles involve some peddling. With a 6ish" bike you can ride 90% of the trails with 2 sets of tires (DH and XC). The other 10% you can ride as well, but a specific bike would make the ride funer. As mentioned above get out and ride and figure out what you want. You will see people riding everything from ss 29ers to dual crown dh rigs it all depends on what you want to do. Also the shops sell bells so you can get the attention of people with headphones on. I ride a Giant Reign X and just switch tires/pedals depending on the rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bortis Yelltzen
    I must say though, after living and riding all over CO growning up and riding in many places around this planet, the PC XC riders overall have been the most rude and selfish bunch I've ever come across. Not all of them, but I've had many run-ins with jerks up there. One example coming down John's trail a few years ago, we stop at the intersection part way down, and guy is climbing up it so we move off to the side and my friend says "Hows it going?" and the guy climbing replies "It'd be a lot better if you'd get the [email protected] outt my way!" I've had several examples of that sort of exchange, and I can't even count the number of times someones pride won't let them pull over so faster descenders can pass them....

    But the riding is good enough that I'll take the bad for the good.

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    This has been my experience as well. I ride as courteously as possibe, but still had people (only in PC) get angry, or intentioanlly crash into me beucase i didn't yeild trial fast enough for them or didn't get as far off the trail quick enough for them.

    The trails in park city are tpyiclaly well maintained mostly buff 1-track and there is alot of climbing and descending. I would say a 5" bike with efficient suspension, under 30lbs (if it has an adjustable fork that would be gravy) is a good place to start as one bike for PC. But there are 100s of miles of trail in the PC area and you could find trails near by that suit just about any style of riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBJong
    This has been my experience as well. I ride as courteously as possibe, but still had people (only in PC) get angry, or intentioanlly crash into me beucase i didn't yeild trial fast enough for them or didn't get as far off the trail quick enough for them.

    The trails in park city are tpyiclaly well maintained mostly buff 1-track and there is alot of climbing and descending. I would say a 5" bike with efficient suspension, under 30lbs (if it has an adjustable fork that would be gravy) is a good place to start as one bike for PC. But there are 100s of miles of trail in the PC area and you could find trails near by that suit just about any style of riding.
    I've had mostly good experiences with people sharing the trail. People going too fast around blind corners, or angry people in a hurry are very rare encounters for me. Sorry to hear about the frequency others have had.

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    There is some good riding in the Uintahs too but it is not anywhere nearly as smooth and buff as PC is. I ride it all on my trail bike but look forward to having a 160mm bike. I love hitting the trails in Salt Lake and American Fork too.

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    Y'all are funny, and maybe a bit cabin-feverish?

    Don't worry, the trails will melt soon and you can work off some of this angst.

    I ride all of my bikes in PC.

    - Sometimes I ride my rigid singlespeed 29er. Spiro, CMG and Glenwild are great SS trails, so are the Mill Creek trails. Tons of people in PC on SS bikes.

    - Sometimes I ride my XC geared bike. Used to be a carbon hardtail, recently switched to a Jet 9 and I can't wait to get out on the Mid Mountain trail, which is perfect for fast fun rides, or to do the Big Water-Mid Mountain loop. No shortage of really fit XC racers out there.
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2730174570/" title="C_tg by hukee, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2730174570_49ccbdf3be.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="C_tg" /></a>


    - The lift served stuff at DV is sparsely maintained, and isn't built particularly well, so I don't go there much any more, but when I do, I have have had fun on everything from a Kona Cowan with a Pike to a Corsair König. I have even had a ton of fun on my 5" trail bike, though I don't exactly hit the big stuff.

    - Speaking of trail bikes, most of the really fun DH/FR routes are going to require that you make some friends that are willing to give a a tour of the shuttle trails in the area (volunteering for WAFTA would be the best way to do this). For these trails, most people ride bigger/DH type bikes, though I have had a lot of fun on my trail bike and my König slopestyle bike.
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/2703219092/" title="Riding by hukee, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2703219092_34b2fb59cb.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="Riding" /></a>

    Cheers,
    C
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    THANKS For all the info and replies! Damn I'm loving those pics Chuky!

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