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    Moab conditions 12/20ish

    Making a drive from Boulder to LA in a couple of weeks and the bikes are coming with. I'm mainly a downhiller but I also own a trail bike. Sadly, I've never ridden Moab so why not now. I'll also be ridding at Bootleg Canyon as well as SoCal.

    So, if all you locals could gaze into your crystal ball, what should I expect for trail conditions/ closures. What trails would you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeRidin' View Post
    Making a drive from Boulder to LA in a couple of weeks and the bikes are coming with. I'm mainly a downhiller but I also own a trail bike. Sadly, I've never ridden Moab so why not now. I'll also be ridding at Bootleg Canyon as well as SoCal.

    So, if all you locals could gaze into your crystal ball, what should I expect for trail conditions/ closures. What trails would you suggest?
    I am not a local, BUT I use to spend three months a year there riding my butt off.

    MAG 7 would be my choice, but having been involved with the rampant marketing of the ride, I might not be providing the best advise. Others might think riding the trails in the La Sals with snow tires would be a better choice.

    Another option would be to ride up Porcupine Rim backwards until you can't stand it anymore and ride it back down. I am sure there are other nice lower altitude choices to try out.

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    Cold and the La Sals are socked in today. Wouldn't surprise me if there is snow on PR even. At the very least the high elevation stuff is snowed in until spring.

    I'd check back a few days before you leave. Not really know for snow around here, but you never know...

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    If there's no snow in downtown moab, you can ride pipedream, magnificent 7 (probably most of it), and sovereign trail. Have you ridden "Mary's Loop" outside of Fruita? The trail starts literally right off the fwy exit. In 5 minutes you disappear into nowhere riding right above the colorado river on slick rock. You can get a sweet ride in that can last from 1hr to 3+hrs. Since you are driving a long way. I'd hit Mary's on the way out and then hit Moab on the way back. Moab is about 30 minutes from I70. Sovereign Trail is a bit closer. Here's some ride descriptions from my website. Have fun.

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    I think GJ/fruita just got snow FWIW.

    I'm with ilovemtnbiking, I'd ride Sovereign. Saltwash runs parallele and is a good option to create a loop. Also, It's my personal preference to to do the lollipop section of his track opposite from what he did.

    Also, this:

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    ...is only about a 1/3 of the Mag7. It's also less technical then the rest of the ride. The new Bull Run is not to miss though, rides awesome.

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    Snow and cold are definitely a possibility this time of year. If Moab isn't snowed in, definitely check out mag 7 to Portal like TD suggested.

    If it is then skip Moab and stop in St. George instead. Zen/Barrels combo is really good. Gooseberry/Grafton Mesa also really good but higher elevation and more likely to have snow.

    You still have a couple of weeks before you're there so who knows what the weather is going to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    I think GJ/fruita just got snow FWIW.

    I'm with ilovemtnbiking, I'd ride Sovereign. Saltwash runs parallele and is a good option to create a loop. Also, It's my personal preference to to do the lollipop section of his track opposite from what he did.
    I agree with the suggestion by Jwind about the lollipop (i.e. riding all the way up Sovereign and back on Saltwash cutting back to Sovereign at #4).

    I rode Sovereign the last week of December last year. It was bitterly cold riding first thing in the morning with a good breeze blowing. The trail was in great shape. I rode up the bottom sections of Saltwash, and the sandy sections were pretty firm which was a bonus. It is all a crap shoot at that time of the year though.

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    Cold and dry today. Totally enjoyable conditions still in the Moab area.

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    North of Moab, check out the new trails in the Klondike area: EKG, MegaSteps, and others. Rode EKG about a month ago; it's an instant classic. Also, the BarM area has really expanded; they just finished North40, and recently opened Long Branch, Deadman's. It's a real destination area now.
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    Any updates on trail conditions in Moab? Thinking about hitting up Fruita or Moab next week midweek. It's (about to be) snowy and cold in Denver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtncampbell View Post
    Any updates on trail conditions in Moab? Thinking about hitting up Fruita or Moab next week midweek. It's (about to be) snowy and cold in Denver.
    Just snowed today. Most is gone fromt he canyon floor. Gonna need a day or two before the lower stuff is ridable. Here's a pic from my window and what the top of LPS looked like LAST weekend.
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    Any website link for the Bar M area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. D View Post
    Any website link for the Bar M area?
    like a map or something?

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    Will be planning a moab trip in the spring. I was just wondering what is Bar M?
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    Bar-M: Single track loops of 2-4 miles ranging from simple to difficult. Located 8 miles north of town. Most loops originate or connect from a central parking area. Well sign posted with maps at junctions. Biggish day to ride them all in one shot.

    Are they any good? Oh yeah! Cons? Not classic canyon country scenery with killer views around every corner.

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    Cool. Thanks for taking the time to post Jwind. It's much appreciated. We got a ton of snow in Denver, and despite a quick warmup, it's not going to go quickly enough. Targeting mid to late next week for Moab perhaps...

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    Baring any other weather, should be some pretty good riding. Looks like we have a warming trend coming up. Maybe as high as 50. Yay.

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    Can we get an update for this weekend?

    Are Sovereign/Amasa clear? I'm thinking LPS is prob closed.. what about Porc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIDE View Post
    Can we get an update for this weekend?

    Are Sovereign/Amasa clear? I'm thinking LPS is prob closed.. what about Porc?
    Rode Poison Spider today. 99% clear. Just gonna be better with time. No way LPS is clear. Prolly snow on the PR too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Rode Poison Spider today. 99% clear. Just gonna be better with time. No way LPS is clear. Prolly snow on the PR too.
    So proccipine rim will not be ridable on the 26th? I'll be passing through with bikes and was hoping to get in a ride on it. Thanks!
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    Rode amasa yesterday it was perfect.

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    riotous flowing fun

    and dry as a bone. taken yesterday.

    Moab conditions 12/20ish-img_20111224_142713.jpg

    combine with Lazy and EZ for more flowing fun, or with Deadman's, Long Branch and Barb b for chunk and challenge. Or ride em all with Circle o and Rockin A to make an afternoon of it.

    And then find one of the Trailmix crew that built it and buy em a beer.




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    that's a little of north 40 on the rock at the bottom right, the stones are marking the trail. Sorry about the sepia, my camera/phone set itself and I didnt catch it. The color pics are from
    deadman's looking across courthouse wash to Arches National Park and the rim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonns View Post
    So proccipine rim will not be ridable on the 26th? I'll be passing through with bikes and was hoping to get in a ride on it. Thanks!
    I can't really say for sure. Refer to my previous shot of the TOP of LPS. That was before the latest snow, so... Still patches of snow on north facing areas so my speculations would be that a good deal of PR would be not a whole lot of fun. Plenty of other options tho.

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    Anyone have updated trail conditions for the Klondike Bluffs area trails? I'm heading down tomorrow morning and want to ride up there tomorrow or Friday.

    Any other trail updates from other areas too?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Anyone have updated trail conditions for the Klondike Bluffs area trails? I'm heading down tomorrow morning and want to ride up there tomorrow or Friday.

    Any other trail updates from other areas too?

    Thanks!
    My guess is anything lower then PR. Certainly Klondike. That's low with good sun exposure. Suppose to be in the 50's this week too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    I can't really say for sure. Refer to my previous shot of the TOP of LPS. That was before the latest snow, so... Still patches of snow on north facing areas so my speculations would be that a good deal of PR would be not a whole lot of fun. Plenty of other options tho.

    Bring your snowbike, or skis if you plan on riding Proc Rim. 3-6, inches of powder on about 95% of the trail. The first 4 miles up hill is almost all hike a bike and despite a few downhills where I could actually get some speed and coast, everything else involved peddling or hiking, downhills too. It took me 5 hours. But made for an interesting ride.

    I was hoping it was a little clearer on the rim, but it wasn't. I got some more pics to put up later.

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    What is Mag7

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyondave View Post
    What is Mag7
    This Magnificent 7 Trail

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    Conditions are awesome right now and the weather just as good. Shorts and a long sleeve today. There is a bit of snow on the Portal trail tho...

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    I just did Slickrock on 12/29 (temp about 45) and Amasa Back to Pothole Arch, then Rockstacker and Jackson's Trail 12/30 (temp about 50). Slickrock was great, only a couple of spots where snow interfered. Amasa back and pothole arch were clear and beautiful, Rockstacker had a snow covered steep rock roll early on (gnar!) but was otherwise as rideable as usual. Jackson's trail was mostly snow covered but all rideable. Conditions may have gotten better in the last couple of days if it has been warm.
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    Pretty much anything non-North facing is good! Porc. Rim is snowy.....not that great to ride. Conditions the same as seen in photo above. Pipe Dream has snow on it, but does not decrease the quality or traction of the ride.....you can still rip it! Sov. Trail and MOAB Brand Trails are perfect! Overall, Moab is riding very well right now!

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffkerkove/6608962127/" title="New Years Moab Training Camp: Day 1 by Jeff Kerkove, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6608962127_1a887205e9.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="New Years Moab Training Camp: Day 1"></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffkerkove/6623933039/" title="2012 New Years Moab Training Camp: Day 2 by Jeff Kerkove, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6623933039_9ff32084ff.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="2012 New Years Moab Training Camp: Day 2"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by KobaltBlau View Post
    I just did Slickrock on 12/29 (temp about 45) and Amasa Back to Pothole Arch, then Rockstacker and Jackson's Trail 12/30 (temp about 50). Slickrock was great, only a couple of spots where snow interfered. Amasa back and pothole arch were clear and beautiful, Rockstacker had a snow covered steep rock roll early on (gnar!) but was otherwise as rideable as usual. Jackson's trail was mostly snow covered but all rideable. Conditions may have gotten better in the last couple of days if it has been warm.
    Rode Poison Spider > Portal 12/29 Portal had a bit of snow (careful walking) till you get around the bend. PS has none.

    Rode Amasa >Rockstacker yesterday and no snow at all. Jacksons looked like it had snow but we rode back down Amasa.
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    How's MOAB brand and Soveirgn looking this week? And the weather?

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    Perfect is the answer to both. Rode Porcupine today, and even that was doable.

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    Steve, have you ridden the brand trails? Will you still be in fruab Sunday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jan_nikolajsen View Post
    Bar-M: Single track loops of 2-4 miles ranging from simple to difficult. Located 8 miles north of town. Most loops originate or connect from a central parking area. Well sign posted with maps at junctions. Biggish day to ride them all in one shot.

    Are they any good? Oh yeah! Cons? Not classic canyon country scenery with killer views around every corner.
    This matches my experience. I found it more enjoyable than Slickrock. To me, Slickrock gets too much hype, a lot like Sedona, overrated. Also very much enjoyed the uniqueness of Amasa Back and Jackson. Add in Soveiergn and you've had a great sampler until you can get back when it's warmer and ride some of the good stuff in the La Sals.

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    How are things looking down there this week? Thinking of heading down next weekend.

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    This should give you a good idea. Yesterday, my friend on the Portal trail:

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kO9Tif3kgn0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Does anyone have a more recent conditions update? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBoothius View Post
    Does anyone have a more recent conditions update? Thanks!
    This Winter, just assume everything is awesome until otherwise noted :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBoothius View Post
    Does anyone have a more recent conditions update? Thanks!
    Just got back from there, the weather was terrible for me. I was wearing long spandex underneath my shorts and a long sleeve under armour under my jersey.... I was roasting!!! Seriously though i couldn't have asked for better conditions, I am thinking of making a return trip next week.

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    60 degrees and sunny yesterday afternoon on North 40. Hoping for close to the same today.
    We've been riding some buff new singletrack, also, that connects North Sovereign to the Klondike Bluffs road. It could use some folks to go out and ride it to firm it up a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moabman View Post
    We've been riding some buff new singletrack, also, that connects North Sovereign to the Klondike Bluffs road. It could use some folks to go out and ride it to firm it up a little.
    Would love to. Directions?

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    Sure, take 191 north, turn right on Klondike road. Then turn at the first jeep road that goes right. The trail head is a couple hundred yards up that road on the right and is marked as a trailhead although there is no trail name. There is a log
    gate to restrict the size of vehicles that can pass thru. cant miss it.

    The single track hooks you up with the existing North sovereign single track
    (cedar mtn), which makes for a nice loop, we usually ride it counterclockwise.
    It's a little confusing trailfinding with all of the jeep roads running everywhere,
    but trailmix and/or "ride with respect" have the singletrack marked well enough now that I think someone could find the whole loop first time out.

    Let us know what you think of it.

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    Thanks for the beta.

    Just rode Garden Mesa/Cedar Mtn from Dalton Wells, but must have looked at my front wheel too much to notice the other trail merging in from the north.

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    daunting

    That's understandable. The new section is connected to the old section by a steep 100 yards of two track. There is a sign at the top(east), but you would never make the connection if you werent looking for it.
    The map shows the little gap between the two blue sovereign trails.

    I find this map confusing because it marks the sovereign single track in blue, whereas I think of the ride as a loop, and that is marked in blue, black, violet and dashes, you'd never figure it out if you didnt have a picture of it in your mind.

    I also find the violet section to the far north, that connects with the part of the copper ridge road interesting. I have never been up to the north part of the mesa and dont know if those trails coming down to connect with copper ridge road exist yet.
    If youve never ridden the northernmost loop of copper ridge that is marked with violet and red both, and goes right up against Arches park fences, it's a nice little jaunt. Not ridden much as it doesnt connect with any other single track(at least not until now.)
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    Besides the kaleidoscope of colors that's a very useful map, thanks. I can see some good potential for a loop starting at the new trail, up on Garden Mesa counter clockwise, then hooking up with purple trail, before the long wash descent, and going north to the CR loop you recommend.

    Might try that next week, as I work this weekend.
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    Hehe, I've been referring to that long wash descent as Hell Canyon for years, cause i dont know if it has a real name. After riding UP it the other day, I've been calling it Murder Canyon.

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    I can see that. In DH mode it's actually not bad.

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    If it's the area that I'm thinking of, there is a huge slickrock slab up there?

    <a href="https://singletrackhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DSC00862.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-501" title="Said Slickrock Slab" src="https://singletrackhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DSC00862.png" alt="Said Slickrock Slab" width="710" height="387" /></a>

    And Hell's Canyon is a b!tch if it's what I'm thinking of. I'm gonna need less beers and more gears to clean that sucker going up. Fun going down tho!


    <a href="https://singletrackhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DSC00873.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-503" title="DSC00873" src="https://singletrackhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DSC00873.png" alt="" width="710" height="533" /></a>

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    That slickrock slab is just off the map above, just east of the easternmost CR
    at the bottom right.

    conditions update: sovereign/salt wash is completely dry, even the glaciers that usually hang on the shaded parts of the trail are gone. This is the first year I've seen this In Feb.(although I've only lived here since the turn of the century).

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    [QUOTE=moabman;8994270]Hehe, I've been referring to that long wash descent as Hell Canyon for years, cause i dont know if it has a real name. After riding UP it the other day, I've been calling it Murder Canyon.[/QUOTE


    I just noticed that the folks at utahmountainbiking.com call it
    Ann's Arroyo. I'm sure they're right, but I'm sticking with Hell Canyon.

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    moab for pres wknd

    looks like some rain and chance of overnight snow next day or two. Moabman, keep me posted how much precip they receive. I'd appreciate it!

    Quote Originally Posted by moabman View Post
    That slickrock slab is just off the map above, just east of the easternmost CR
    at the bottom right.

    conditions update: sovereign/salt wash is completely dry, even the glaciers that usually hang on the shaded parts of the trail are gone. This is the first year I've seen this In Feb.(although I've only lived here since the turn of the century).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcospoco View Post
    looks like some rain and chance of overnight snow next day or two. Moabman, keep me posted how much precip they receive. I'd appreciate it!
    Any updates would be greatly appreciated. Taking the end of the week off work in Denver and heading out to Fruita/GJ/Moab area on Thursday morning. Going to hit up whatever is rideable. Hoping for a good day in Moab over the long weekend. Looks like rain in the forecast through Wednesday (but it's only 20 percent at the moment).

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    9;15 monday morning, dry and sunny. The precip that was sposed to happen, didnt.

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    Here's what it looked like at the classic Poky trailhead today:



    ..but a little higher, at LPS, it was like this:

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    That's actually less snow then I would expect? Less snow then there was there in January anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    That's actually less snow then I would expect? Less snow then there was there in January anyway...
    Yeah, it looks like you may even be able to ride the whole thing, albeit with some snow to start...coming and riding all day Friday, hopefully things are just peachy by then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtncampbell View Post
    Yeah, it looks like you may even be able to ride the whole thing, albeit with some snow to start...coming and riding all day Friday, hopefully things are just peachy by then...
    Problem is a lot of it doesn't see enough sun. You'd expect the last bit of singletrack to be fine since it's at the bottom. In fact, it was the most treacherous section with many sections of black ice. Maybe if you're looking for an adventure or wouldn't be let down with less the optimal conditions, otherwise I'd recommend against it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Problem is a lot of it doesn't see enough sun. You'd expect the last bit of singletrack to be fine since it's at the bottom. In fact, it was the most treacherous section with many sections of black ice. Maybe if you're looking for an adventure or wouldn't be let down with less the optimal conditions, otherwise I'd recommend against it
    Thanks for the update. Much appreciated. That's fine by me - I think we'll have plenty of other trails to hit instead...just hoping it stays nice the rest of the week (I only see a chance of precip today/tonight), then smooth sailing and sunny. Can't wait to ride Amasa Back, Poison Spider and some others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Problem is a lot of it doesn't see enough sun. You'd expect the last bit of singletrack to be fine since it's at the bottom. In fact, it was the most treacherous section with many sections of black ice. Maybe if you're looking for an adventure or wouldn't be let down with less the optimal conditions, otherwise I'd recommend against it
    black ice on top of red rock or red sand should be easy to see unless you are riding at night.

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    pumped to ride dry trails. first time since November for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by axolotl View Post
    black ice on top of red rock or red sand should be easy to see unless you are riding at night.
    Maybe "Black Ice" is more appropriate when describing thin layers if ice hard to see on asphalt. I don't have a term for it on sinlgetrack with redrock, but if trail conditions are anything like they were in January, the last section of singletrack is covered with it.

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    I was going to ask what the conditions are on LPS and Porc....thanks jan for the pics! I'm headed out there in about two weeks, and hoping LPS to the bottom is in decent shape.

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    I am heading down today from the Vail Valley and bringing a dog, riding companion, what would you all recommend for my 4 padded friend, something with out a ton of Slick Rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostonbase View Post
    I am heading down today from the Vail Valley and bringing a dog, riding companion, what would you all recommend for my 4 padded friend, something with out a ton of Slick Rock.
    Thanks.
    The Moab Brand trails are great for dogs-some of the trails there are all dirt.
    Some sections of the Sovereign system are good too, but you will hit sections of slickrock depending on where you ride.
    Pipedream trail is an option as well.
    There is dog day care in town-Karen's Canine Campground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Clydesdale View Post
    The Moab Brand trails are great for dogs-some of the trails there are all dirt.
    Some sections of the Sovereign system are good too, but you will hit sections of slickrock depending on where you ride.
    Pipedream trail is an option as well.
    There is dog day care in town-Karen's Canine Campground.
    Thanks, for the info. Never have done the Moab brand trails, I've done Sovereign with him and that was fine. He's an awesome trail dog and listens to directions but if I went to Moab and left him at doggie day care. I am not sure what he would do to me to get even.

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    Brand trails are probably your best bet. Rockin A and circle or are all SR. Neither are more then a few miles, but it's worth mentioning. Could always do Megasteps>EKG>little salty>babysteps>megasteps and then if your up for it, ride the new Dino Flow trail. Almost all dirt.

    Oddly, our pup had more trouble with the gravel. Hurt her feet. That and slickrock really wore down the BACK toenails too much. No need to clip our dogs toenails around here thats for sure.

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    Looking to head to Moab next weekend to break in the new 429 - keep the updates coming! Weather forecast looks good but things can change for sure in a week.

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    It's been snowing here near Moab for a few hours. Sticky wet, snow, just around freezing, gusty winds.

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    Yesterday was pretty much perfect. Rode Amasa>pothole>Rockstacker>Jackson. Shorts, T-shirts and not a lick of snow.

    Did indeed get some snow today. Nothing on the canyon floor, but a bit on North facing areas. Would be surprised if anything is left at all by the weekend.
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    Did you guys get hit by the snow that hit Fruita? Down in Sedona and trying to plan when to come through Moab. Thinking get into town Wednesday night. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Pedals View Post
    Did you guys get hit by the snow that hit Fruita? Down in Sedona and trying to plan when to come through Moab. Thinking get into town Wednesday night. Cheers.
    Read my post right above yours

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    Almost no snow left on Moab Rim today, conditions are perfect for Poison Spider or any other sandy slog. The sand this AM was as hard as the rock. Probably still okay tomorrow and back to dry and soft by the weekend.

    Mag 7 might be nice and shreddy right now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Read my post right above yours
    Sorry I thought it had snowed again last night as Powderhorn ski resort reportes 19"
    And Fruita on Facebook was saying they were snowy and likely not rideable until the weekend. Glad to see Moab is in good shape.

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    Just got back from a trip down there for Presidents Weekend. Saturday you couldn't ask for better weather. I also did Amasa Back, Pipe Dream, Slick Rock, and messed around on North 40 and other areas of Bar M. Sunday it rained and snowed, I was dissapointed when I woke up Monday morning hoping to get in a few rides before I had to head back to reality. I put on my long pants, and a long sleeve jersey and ran Slick Rock again, it appeared to be one of the few in the morning that hadn't been dusted with snow. It appeared all the snow would melt by tomorrow afternoon. That was my third weekend down there this month and I hated coming back to Salt Lake and three inches of snow on my lawn.

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    Im thinking about coming down for a night tomorrow...That a good idea? looks dry and warm

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    Rode a 30 mile loop today including the full Metal Masher and portions of Mag 7. Perfect conditions: warm, dry, moist sand and basically no snow.

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    I am planning on riding that very route this weekend, what do you mean when you say portions of Mag 7? Did you take Gemini all the way to the start of the bull run single track, or did you just ride the mag 7 trails from the end of metal masher back to hwy 191? Either way sounds like a good route and awesome weather jan.

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    I parked at lower Gemini across from Bar-M, rode up to the start of Metal Masher, did the full MM loop and picked up Arth's Corner and Little Canyon SS on the way down. A little more effort would have included Bull Run too, but I was running out of steam...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jan_nikolajsen View Post
    I parked at lower Gemini across from Bar-M, rode up to the start of Metal Masher, did the full MM loop and picked up Arth's Corner and Little Canyon SS on the way down. A little more effort would have included Bull Run too, but I was running out of steam...
    You sure like getting right up to the edge! Those vids were scaring the crap out of me. Riding on the edge of portal trail or jackson's is one thing, but wow you're nuts.

    Headed out to Moab in a few weeks, can't wait. Hoping this good weather streak stays true!

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    Rode the Brand Trails today. The new North Forty section is really nice. That whole area of trails is a nice addition for Moab. Thinking about doing Sovereign in the morning.

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    Any updates on LPS? I'll be out there in about 5 days, and hoping it's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtg7aa View Post
    Any updates on LPS? I'll be out there in about 5 days, and hoping it's good.
    Not even close. Even PR has snow at this point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Not even close. Even PR has snow at this point...
    that sux
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    Quote Originally Posted by jurichar View Post
    that sux
    Yep. A lot of PR isn't any higher then much of the Mag7, but it just doesn't get the sun. I don't have a particularly good frame of reference, but i'm certain it's going to be at least a little while even without new snowfall.

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    Any update for this weekend? Looks like a little snow today. Will Mag7 be good by Saturday?

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    snowing at the moment(thurs. morn) here in town. That webcam at deadhorse that is listed on another thread would be a good reference. I've noticed that there seems to be more snow at deadhorse than on the top of mag 7, although they must be close in altitude. And both would reliably have more snow on the ground than here in town.
    my guess for the weekend is that the rock will be rideable, the sand and dirt trails muddy with snow patches. Unless it snows a whole bunch. Course my predictions are about as reliable as everyone elses, i.e. not at all.
    But I'm riding this weekend either way.

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    I rode UP PR yesterday and it was pretty good. Didn't get anywhere near the top, but no snow. Just wet in places where there used to be ice.

    Rode Mag7 last weekend 313>Portal. It was awesome. Some bit of snow in the shade at the start - none of the trail. Form the looks of it, snow is falling pretty good right now. Friday is supposed to be nice. If it warms up and the sun shines bright, I suspect Mag7 would be good to get.

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    And now it's 45 and blue skies. Predicting weather around here is like herding cats. Impossible.

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    Thanks for the updates. Leaving SLC after work today and hopefully riding tomorrow morning. Any areas you recommend we avoid for tomorrow? We were probably going to start with the Brand trails and/or Klondike Bluffs area. Would that be a good plan? How does Pipe Dream handle water? Is it going to be too muddy to ride tomorrow?

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    Looked pretty bad out for a few hours. Afternoon was actually rather nice. I suspect you'd be good just about anywhere tomorrow providing it doesn't snow tonight. Certainly Bar M and Klondike Bluff.

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    Amasa Back was the goods today- perfect weather, hero dirt, hardly anybody on the trail.

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    Thinking about coming down for the weekend of the 9-11 of march; looks like clear skies all week and warm weather. Any specific trails get more sun than others? It looks, from this thread, that porcupine rim doesn't get much sun; what about slickrock or amasa? Other suggestions?

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    I'm not sure it really matters with the pending temperatures. You'll be more then comfy on any non-snow cover snow. Rode mag 7 yesterday. Was a bit sloppy for a few miles, but other then that, it was spectacular.

    FWIW, I do find AMASA/SR/Poison Spider to be among the warmest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    I'm not sure it really matters with the pending temperatures. You'll be more then comfy on any non-snow cover snow. Rode mag 7 yesterday. Was a bit sloppy for a few miles, but other then that, it was spectacular.

    FWIW, I do find AMASA/SR/Poison Spider to be among the warmest.
    W rode an Intrepid lap and then Mag 7 yesterday afternoon. We dropped in on the old road and skipped the north-side ST on the first section guessing that it might be grimy. Didn't see snow anywhere below that. Dirt was awesome and fast, helped us beat the sunset.

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    That's some fantastic news to wake up to; thanks a lot for the advice-this weekend is going to be amazing!

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    Coming to Moab march 23, 24 to camp and ride. Anyone think PR will be ready yet or should we just look elsewhere?

    Probably gonna do the Brand Trails the 23rd after we get camp setup. Looking for a good Sat ride. 15 miles or so max. Just came down Sunday and did Sovereign so probably want to hit something else. Have already done slick rock trail as well.

    So open to suggestions if PR looks like a no go. Klondike trails? Pipe Deam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobi View Post
    Coming to Moab march 23, 24 to camp and ride. Anyone think PR will be ready yet or should we just look elsewhere?

    Probably gonna do the Brand Trails the 23rd after we get camp setup. Looking for a good Sat ride. 15 miles or so max. Just came down Sunday and did Sovereign so probably want to hit something else. Have already done slick rock trail as well.

    So open to suggestions if PR looks like a no go. Klondike trails? Pipe Deam?
    Excluding any weather, you'll be fine. Haven't been far enough up Sand Flats to really speculate on anything higher then PR proper, but I certainly wouldn't count on it.

    Mag 7 would be the other shuttle option and is about as good as it get right now.

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    Rode Lockhart today. Minimal sand, no mud, absolutely no snow. 5 1/2 hours total hwy 211 to downtown Moab.
    Experimented going without Camelbak:
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    Mud here means snow further up... passed a few snow banks on the road in the shade.
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    any updates on porcupine rim?

    Im headed out tomorrow night for the weekend, would really love to shred the full 15 miles or so. I don't mind a little bit of mud, i know to ride through instead of around

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJDan View Post
    any updates on porcupine rim?
    I heard it's good to go.

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    Form sand flats rec:

    "Road/Trail Update - Sand Flats Rd to LPS trailhead is dry the whole way, and able to do in 2WD. LPS trail itself is still a snowy/muddy muck. The lazy man trail is dry all the way to its intersection with the Porcupine trail, and aside from a 40yd stretch of some mud (about 3/4mi after intersection of porcupine and lazy man) porcupine trail is mostly dry and ride-able all the way up to the Castle Valley overlook. Happy Riding!"

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    Thanks for the updates.

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    Big thanks to for the consistant updates....Hoping to ride porcupine from LPS a week from today, from the above posts it sounds do-able. Any updates from someone that has been up there lately?

    Once again I really appreciate the updates.
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    Road LPS down on Saturday. Entrance had a little muck. All good to the Notch bypass. Little snowy in there then primo the rest of the way.
    Have fun. Looks to be great week for Moab.

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    Hopefully you dont get a torential wind storm like we had sunday.. luckily friday and saturday were solid days so it didnt bother me. It was a bit hard to pack up camp with 40mph winds though haha.

    We rode Porcupine Rim from sand flats and it was in great shape with a couple tiny wet spots on the climb up. Amasa Back was in great condition through rockstacker and jacksons as well. Slickrock obviously was in fine shape.
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