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    Can this be done in one day?

    I'm visiting Cedar city this weekend and i'm finalizing my itinerary for the trip. I need help from you guys to ascertain if i can do this ride in one day and if so, how? ( i will have a shuttle company to provide the ride)

    These are the 3 rides i'm thinking of riding in one day
    Bunker Creek
    Dark Hollow
    Blow Hard

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
    I'm visiting Cedar city this weekend and i'm finalizing my itinerary for the trip. I need help from you guys to ascertain if i can do this ride in one day and if so, how? ( i will have a shuttle company to provide the ride)

    These are the 3 rides i'm thinking of riding in one day
    Bunker Creek
    Dark Hollow
    Blow Hard

    Thanks in advance
    The rides themselves aren't what takes so long, it's the shuttle. Dark Hollow if you're riding at a modest pace will only take 30-40 minutes. Bunker Creek is a bit longer, but you start/park at the same trail head as Dark Hollow but go off the mountain in the opposite direction. The shuttle for that one from point to point is a bit lengthy. Blow Hard is a ways away from both DH and BC.

    They could be done in a day in the traditional two person shuttle, if your rides aren't riddled with mechanicals and you're not bringing Larry from Indiana on his third mountain bike ride ever. If you have a dedicated shuttle driver who isn't riding you could bust these out and still have plenty of time to hit that new Mexican restaurant in Brian Head.

    I would start with Dark Hollow so you're fresh, as that one is a bit rough. Then Bunker Creek due to the length and where it finishes and if you're planning on pedalling back out to the road that will add some more distance, followed by Blow Hard to get your fun on at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    The rides themselves aren't what takes so long, it's the shuttle. Dark Hollow if you're riding at a modest pace will only take 30-40 minutes. Bunker Creek is a bit longer, but you start/park at the same trail head as Bunker Creek but go off the mountain in the opposite direction. The shuttle for that one from point to point is a bit lengthy. Blow Hard is a ways away from both DH and BC.

    They could be done in a day in the traditional two person shuttle, if your rides aren't riddled with mechanicals and you're not bringing Larry from Indiana on his third mountain bike ride ever. If you have a dedicated shuttle driver who isn't riding you could bust these out and still have plenty of time to hit that new Mexican restaurant in Brian Head.

    I would start with Dark Hollow so you're fresh, as that one is a bit rough. Then Bunker Creek due to the length and where it finishes, followed by Blow Hard to get your fun on at the end.
    Awesome! Thanks for that bit of information it was a TON of help. Now, i can finalize my itinerary. I doubt that mexican restaurant can be as good as the hole in wall places out here in San Diego

    Speaking of restaurants, i was actually looking at this place. Wonder if it's any good.

    http://miltsstagestop.com/

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    What he said.

    Get an early start, it's a long day of riding and running shuttle but it's not epic if you don't screw around too much.

    The idea of a stand-alone restaurant in Brian Head just makes me suspicious. Is it any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    What he said.

    Get an early start, it's a long day of riding and running shuttle but it's not epic if you don't screw around too much.

    The idea of a stand-alone restaurant in Brian Head just makes me suspicious. Is it any good?
    It's not a Red Iguana or El Chub, but for Brian Head it's decent. Next to the resort is a burger joint and an ok pizza place. Next to the pizza place is a country store/liquor store. If you're up there on a busy weekend there is also a decent coffee hut at the bottom of the lift where they'll grill burgers, etc.... every so often.

    About a 1/4 mile down the road from where you'll get picked up after Bunker Creek is another country store. We used to end the shuttle there and leave a vehicle in their parking lot but they frown on doing that even though it means business, so we leave one on the side of the road in a pull-out. Needless to say they don't get our business anymore.

    The canyon where Bunker Creek kicks you out actually leads into Cedar City. If you end there you can always drive down into Cedar where food choices are a bit more 'convienent', although I wouldn't say you're going to get better quality.

    I would bring a spare tire and plenty of tubes if you're not running tubeless. Last thing you need is to have to drive back into town and try and find something other than the lone 2.1 Nevegal that's been sitting on the shelf since 2007. Dark Hollow and Bunker Creek have become pretty rough the past few years (see Dark Hollow Super D Thread) and will claim tires if you're not careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    It's not a Red Iguana or El Chub, but for Brian Head it's decent. Next to the resort is a burger joint and an ok pizza place. Next to the pizza place is a country store/liquor store. If you're up there on a busy weekend there is also a decent coffee hut at the bottom of the lift where they'll grill burgers, etc.... every so often.

    About a 1/4 mile down the road from where you'll get picked up after Bunker Creek is another country store. We used to end the shuttle there and leave a vehicle in their parking lot but they frown on doing that even though it means business, so we leave one on the side of the road in a pull-out. Needless to say they don't get our business anymore.

    The canyon where Bunker Creek kicks you out actually leads into Cedar City. If you end there you can always drive down into Cedar where food choices are a bit more 'convienent', although I wouldn't say you're going to get better quality.

    I would bring a spare tire and plenty of tubes if you're not running tubeless. Last thing you need is to have to drive back into town and try and find something other than the lone 2.1 Nevegal that's been sitting on the shelf since 2007. Dark Hollow and Bunker Creek have become pretty rough the past few years (see Dark Hollow Super D Thread) and will claim tires if you're not careful.
    -2 for being so helpful. A simple "suck it bishes!" would have sufficed.

    My memory is hazy, but isn't it the Dark Hollow shuttle that's on the road back to Parowan and Blow Hard is on the highway back into Cedar? I think Bunker Creek is on the road that goes past Panguitch Lake. Panguitch has good BBQ if the Cowboy Cafe is open for lunch.

    Regardles... to the OP, you can see you are talking about three rides that start in the same general vicinity, but end up in three very different locations.

    Oh, and for the haters: I think that the tire you need for these rides is No-Tubes The Crow. It's available now in a 2.1 which should completely shred at Brian Head and cut through the topsoil better than a tire with more Girth

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    -2 for being so helpful. A simple "suck it bishes!" would have sufficed.

    My memory is hazy, but isn't it the Dark Hollow shuttle that's on the road back to Parowan and Blow Hard is on the highway back into Cedar? I think Bunker Creek is on the road that goes past Panguitch Lake. Panguitch has good BBQ if the Cowboy Cafe is open for lunch.

    Regardles... to the OP, you can see you are talking about three rides that start in the same general vicinity, but end up in three very different locations.

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    You may or may not be correct on one or all of your questions/statements. But I'm not going to tell you.
    Then again, my bell is still rung from Dark Hollow. This is the Fancy Cats Forum correct?

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    Crow This

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    Oh, and for the haters: I think that the tire you need for these rides is No-Tubes The Crow. It's available now in a 2.1 which should completely shred at Brian Head and cut through the topsoil better than a tire with more Girth

    JMH
    I think the Crow should be the go-to tire for any Utah ride. Not so much for it's lack of any sort of tread pattern, durability, hook-up properties, uselessness, etc... but just because it's named 'The Crow.' With the Small Block 8 sitting back in reserve.

    Best Tire For TWE?
    Crow
    Best Tire For Spiro?
    Crow
    Best Tire For Wheelin' In The West Desert?
    Crow
    Best Tire For Cruising State Street In My Lowered Honda Civic With Fart Pipe And a Bunch of Dudes?
    Crow

    See how that plays out...

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    Yes it can be done in one day. We did it last Saturday(8/28) and used Bob's shuttle, www.shuttlebrianhead.com . The other shuttle company in town is great too but they don't shuttle Blow Hard.

    Started with Bunker Creek(right fork) around 930am local time, we got to the burger shack in Panguitch in a little over an hour. Bob picked all nine of us up and brought us back up to Brian Head peak and we descended Dark Hollow. Finished Dark Hollow in less than an hour.
    Took an hour and a half break/lunch. Bob picked us up at 430pm and brought us to Blow Hard Mountain. Bob got us back to the cabin in Brian Head at 7pm.

    I use Conti Trail Kings tubeless 2.4 front, 2.2 rear and they worked great in Brian Head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedsdoc
    Yes it can be done in one day. We did it last Saturday(8/28) and used Bob's shuttle, www.shuttlebrianhead.com . The other shuttle company in town is great too but they don't shuttle Blow Hard.

    Started with Bunker Creek(right fork) around 930am local time, we got to the burger shack in Panguitch in a little over an hour. Bob picked all nine of us up and brought us back up to Brian Head peak and we descended Dark Hollow. Finished Dark Hollow in less than an hour.
    Took an hour and a half break/lunch. Bob picked us up at 430pm and brought us to Blow Hard Mountain. Bob got us back to the cabin in Brian Head at 7pm.

    I use Conti Trail Kings tubeless 2.4 front, 2.2 rear and they worked great in Brian Head.
    I spoked to Bob today and he told me about your ride. Good job! He was a little skeptical about my plan and it actually might fall through. I'm having a hard time finding another group to share the shuttle vehicle with. As of right now there is only me and another rider. And Im almost certain at a business perspective that it wouldn't be cost efficient to run a shuttle all the way up to Dark Hollow if there is only 2 riders. FML!!

    I might have to change my itinerary

    I will be riding my Vassago SS with Maxxis(the best tire ever! DUH!) 2.4 Ardents(F) and 2.1 Ignitors (R)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
    I will be riding my Vassago SS with Maxxis(the best tire ever! DUH!) 2.4 Ardents(F) and 2.1 Ignitors (R)
    Better add a roll of hockey tape to your list of items to pack. You may need it to tape your wrists after Dark Hollow/Bunker Creek on a hardtail.

    Once upon a time last year, we left a vehicle at the bottom of the dirt road after the bottom of Dark Hollow (the dirt road exit is a b!tch BTW, long, sketchy and just dumb.) Got a ride back up to the resort, bought a one time lift pass to the top and then rode over from there to the DH trail head. Seeing as how Bunker Creek starts a ways beyond DH, you could do something similar with that trail, etc....

    In no way could you complete your trifecta doing this, but you'll get a bit more mileage in otherwise. This scenario won't work with Bunker Creek.

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    It's a long weekend coming up so there should be some riders going to Brian Head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
    Speaking of restaurants, i was actually looking at this place. Wonder if it's any good.

    http://miltsstagestop.com/
    Milt's Stage Stop used to be really good, but I haven't been there in awhile. It's typical burgers, steaks, and shrimp kinda place. Nothing fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    What he said.

    Get an early start, it's a long day of riding and running shuttle but it's not epic if you don't screw around too much.

    The idea of a stand-alone restaurant in Brian Head just makes me suspicious. Is it any good?
    Me Pueble? I'ts the dang goods, Ive eaten there a few times last Winter while being snowed in. After riding those three trails though anything is gunna sound good. Even whats in the dumpster outback looks good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    -2 for being so helpful. A simple "suck it bishes!" would have sufficed.

    My memory is hazy, but isn't it the Dark Hollow shuttle that's on the road back to Parowan and Blow Hard is on the highway back into Cedar? I think Bunker Creek is on the road that goes past Panguitch Lake. Panguitch has good BBQ if the Cowboy Cafe is open for lunch.

    Regardles... to the OP, you can see you are talking about three rides that start in the same general vicinity, but end up in three very different locations.

    Oh, and for the haters: I think that the tire you need for these rides is No-Tubes The Crow. It's available now in a 2.1 which should completely shred at Brian Head and cut through the topsoil better than a tire with more Girth

    JMH
    You're right about where these are and where they let out - I live in Cedar and ride on the mtn regularly. If the shuttle becomes a problem and you can't do all 3 I'd recommend dropping Bunker Creek. Its fast and fun, but short given the long shuttle.
    I don't recommend Milt's - they are overpriced and not that good. The best mexican in Cedar IMHO is Don Miguel's on Main st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
    I'm visiting Cedar city this weekend and i'm finalizing my itinerary for the trip. I need help from you guys to ascertain if i can do this ride in one day and if so, how? ( i will have a shuttle company to provide the ride)
    You'd better start early...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    I think the Crow should be the go-to tire for any Utah ride. Not so much for it's lack of any sort of tread pattern, durability, hook-up properties, uselessness, etc... but just because it's named 'The Crow.' With the Small Block 8 sitting back in reserve.

    Best Tire For TWE?
    Crow
    Best Tire For Spiro?
    Crow
    Best Tire For Wheelin' In The West Desert?
    Crow
    Best Tire For Cruising State Street In My Lowered Honda Civic With Fart Pipe And a Bunch of Dudes?
    Crow

    See how that plays out...
    I like someone who will reply to their own post. It speaks well to the function of the forum!

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    So, I'm here @ Cedar City as I send this reply back. Curious if anyone knows of the trail that comes down on the 14 highway/rd. Just shortly pass mile marker 9. Saw 2 guys with big bikes yesterday and saw a truck left behind this morning perhaps for shuttle purposes. Looks steep!

    PM me if this trail is on the downlow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
    So, I'm here @ Cedar City as I send this reply back. Curious if anyone knows of the trail that comes down on the 14 highway/rd. Just shortly pass mile marker 9. Saw 2 guys with big bikes yesterday and saw a truck left behind this morning perhaps for shuttle purposes. Looks steep!

    PM me if this trail is on the downlow.
    BlowHard

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    Non planned EPIC

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    Tease!

    So what did you end up riding?
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    Wilson peak road?

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    HOLY SHYAT! Good guess! Im assuming that you are a local. Not having internet access for 4 day, I had to wait til I got back from San Diego to find out where we ended up.

    Ill be posting some pictures later but to make a long story short. We left SD at exactly 4:00am and arrived at the trail head for Thunder Mountain at around 2:00pm and wheels were rolling in about 5 minutes. We climbed the paved road and somehow rode our bikes all the way to Chevron gas station only to realize that weve gone too far. So, we turned around and realized that we were supposed to turn on Fremont. So we took Fremont down and instead of going all the way straight towards the campground we went left on Coyote pass. We got to the fork and looked at the directions I have on my blackberry and it mentioned to climb up Coyote pass So, we ascended all the way to peak. At elevation, Id say it was quite painful. So, after we realized that I was wrong, we descended down and went back to Fremont and took that all the way to the trail head of Thunder Mountain. By the time we arrived at the trail head it was 6:00pm. I was concerned about running out of daylight but we proceeded to climb up Thunder Mountain. By the time we reach the top, the whole place was in engulf by the awesome lighting from the sun setting. Made for some picturesque descent, thats for certain. We finished the ride with 2 minutes for of daylight 5+ hours later LOL

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    Wilson peak road?

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    Besides the orange dirt peeking out from within the brush, that part of the country always reminds me of the High Uinta's a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
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    Sounds like you had quite an adventure. We rode Thunder Mountain last August 1st. Bob shuttled us from Brian Head to the trail head and waited for us to finish at the bottom. So no climbing the paved bike path . If it's a big enough group, Bob will do it(11 of us).




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    Yeah even skipping out on the bike path when doing the shuttle still leaves you a good amount of climbing. We've rode the whole loop a couple times and that was enough. Now we always shuttle it and I don't feel guilty because i still have to earn my way up. I just took the short cut

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    You Inspired us to shuttle all three in a day too. Blowhard went fine with no incidents. Dark hollow was another story. Two pinch flats and one exploding tire soon was eclipsed by one broken arm down Dark hollow we decided to can Bunker creek due to a trip to Instacare. Major bummer because I Love Bunker creek and was saving it for last but there was other things that needed tending too. Luckily we were close enough to the bailout option back to town. Still though, Totally do-able for all three rides in a day. We dubbed it the "color country trio"

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    Ahhh your friend has succumbed the darkness of the hollow.....unfortunate.
    Picture taken last week.


    I have something for you to be inspired with. How does 20,000 feet worth of descent in one single day without repeating a single trail sounds to you? If you like shuttles and and big descents. Click on our Vertical Epic 2009 ride last year. I think you will like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbster15
    You Inspired us to shuttle all three in a day too. Blowhard went fine with no incidents. Dark hollow was another story. Two pinch flats and one exploding tire soon was eclipsed by one broken arm down Dark hollow we decided to can Bunker creek due to a trip to Instacare. Major bummer because I Love Bunker creek and was saving it for last but there was other things that needed tending too. Luckily we were close enough to the bailout option back to town. Still though, Totally do-able for all three rides in a day. We dubbed it the "color country trio"
    Shelb -

    How were the trail conditions? We are headed up to BH in a couple of weeks! Have you done Paradise (off of DH) lately?

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    Didnt ride Paradise this weekend but DH was rocky as usual. Blowhard was loose on top and super sweet down further. Virgin rim had some trail work done in the last week that i'm not to happy with. someone or something dug several water bar/ water drainage's off the trail which im ok with but got a little carried away in places and took away from the buff flowy goodness and turned it into road hazards ex: potholes. So be cautious if riding it. Bunker has been getting more and more chewed up over the last few summers. There was a trench running down the middle of it when we rode it two weeks ago. Ill be up there again to check out BC and BH again this coming weekend.


    Did however ride Marathon Trail down to Navajo lake.....It was worth the scouting.

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    Thanks.

    Did Marathon several years ago - dang it was a long day. I've gotten older/fatter so we are concentrating on shuttles and a mandatory Thunder Mountain visit this time..

    I just hope it's not too cold in the morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro
    Thanks.

    Did Marathon several years ago - dang it was a long day. I've gotten older/fatter so we are concentrating on shuttles and a mandatory Thunder Mountain visit this time..

    I just hope it's not too cold in the morning
    Nice pics Shelbster!

    titusbro here is something for you to get giddy about

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    PS. All you locals didn't hit me up before my trip! what's up?!

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    BH/Thunder

    Quote Originally Posted by shelbster15
    ..Blowhard was loose on top and super sweet down further...
    Mmmmm...I like it....good recipe for a mind wander.... Blowhard is probably my favorite on the mountain.


    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro
    ..Did Marathon several years ago - dang it was a long day. I've gotten older/fatter ...
    No way! I bet you're in better shape now than when we rode that last...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G
    ..titusbro here is something for you to get giddy about ...
    Nice. 1st time approaching those exposed ridges on Thunder scared me giddy-less...

    Can't wait to bomb that stuff in a couple of weeks!!!!

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    Some video from our last trip to Thunder Mountain.


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    WOW! That video quality is pretty good. What kind is that, if you don't mind me asking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott forty G.
    WOW! That video quality is pretty good. What kind is that, if you don't mind me asking?
    Thanks. Go Pro HD camera, chest mounted.

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    Vintage BH...

    Well, it took a while, but I finally found some 'vintage' BH pics - circa: 2005

    1. First ride ever on Blowhard
    2. Past smoothness on Dark Hollow

    I am 'STOKED' for our upcoming trip!
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