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    What crankset on your bike?

    I've been an XT guy for years now. Are there other worthy cranksets I should be considering?
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    FSA Gravity Lights. Nothing wrong with the XT stuff though.

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    If you like XT - stick with it!

    Otherwise - pay homage to the square taper RF Turbines

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    If you like XT - stick with it!

    Otherwise - pay homage to the square taper RF Turbines

    WTF

    Atlas rule Ex BB best thing to happen to cranks since sliced bread, u guys just don't know ow to set preload though my grandmother rest her soul could do it

    I was sorta looking around myself, but Im liking the new Atlas FR sets for future if I can go there, should stirr some contraversy

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    FSA Gravity Lights. Nothing wrong with the XT stuff though.
    Stop reading my thoughts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLL
    Stop reading my thoughts!


    So efficient you don't even need pedals.
    look @ the bend in that crank arm, FLEXY
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    look @ the bend in that crank arm, FLEXY
    It only flexes when you are riding it on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLL
    It only flexes when you are riding it on the Internet.
    yeah now ya talking the WWW is very FLEXY and a CRUTCH
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    I chose these over XTs and have been 101% happy with them so far this year.

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    for which bike? XT cranks are fine for 26"-wheeled bikes...I would not recommend them on a 29er as they are going to be too flexy

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    and ghey

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    for which bike? XT cranks are fine for 26"-wheeled bikes...I would not recommend them on a 29er as they are going to be too flexy
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    Good point, Fo

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    for which bike? XT cranks are fine for 26"-wheeled bikes...I would not recommend them on a 29er as they are going to be too flexy
    I didn't want to just restrict it to just 26" or just to 4" or 5" bikes but that is my area of interest. I just sold the Spot (XT) I still have my Burner (XT) and the Superlight (XT), but I'm thinking of selling the SL. Just curious: why do you think a 29er would make the XTs flexy? And if it would, what crank would be "better"? I tried to think of XT equivalents with Race Face, FSA and Truvativ but it's tough to gather up objective comparisons and most of my riding buddies don't care enough to offer an opinion. But they're not Homers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy
    Just curious: why do you think a 29er would make the XTs flexy?
    it is a known fact on the Ventana and 29eur forum that Fo's legs are so massive that he bends pretty much any crankset out there when doing trackstands in his driveway. I hear he had some made out of unobtanium by Race Face. Oh, and he is laying off the EPO for the time being. The crack, not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLL
    it is a known fact on the Ventana and 29eur forum that Fo's legs are so massive that he bends pretty much any crankset out there when doing trackstands in his driveway. I hear he had some made out of unobtanium by Race Face. Oh, and he is laying off the EPO for the time being. The crack, not so much

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    chur for helping xcguy better understand the facts...and yes, XT cranks are prone to failure on a 29er given the higher speeds one achieves. XTs are field and bench tested under the assumption that smaller wheels will be used so if you may be putting them on a 29er now, or at a future time, do not go with XTs. It shoudl also be noted that with most cranks, the warranty is void if you use on your 29er so check into that first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    chur for helping xcguy better understand the facts...and yes, XT cranks are prone to failure on a 29er given the higher speeds one achieves. XTs are field and bench tested under the assumption that smaller wheels will be used so if you may be putting them on a 29er now, or at a future time, do not go with XTs. It shoudl also be noted that with most cranks, the warranty is void if you use on your 29er so check into that first.

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    You really hit the nail on that fo, as the higher speeds on 29eurs are one of the better kept secrets out there. It is a well known fact that most of your standard Shimano bearings fail at high speed, which is why ceramic bearings are always recommended for 29eurs. Doubly so for Truvativ, though I never met a 29erur owner that ran them due to pronunciation issues. Smaller wheels of course can run whatever they like, as the speeds are much loweur. it is nice to give the inferiour wheels some choice now anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy
    I've been an XT guy for years now. Are there other worthy cranksets I should be considering?
    If it ain't broke don't fix it. I have had rotten luck with bearing drag and loosening crank arms on both Race Face and Truvativ external BB cranks. (I know the flames are coming here - "you just don't know how to install them," "you don't have the shell faced right," etc. I've heard it all and I believe none of it. Two top notch shops and I were involved in these incidents. If NONE of us could get the installation right, then it's too hard to get right. In the case of the Truvativs - which came stock on a new road bike - they were replaced instantly under warranty without a blink. This tells me we are dealing with a known design or manufacturing issue. I say stay away.) More than two years ago I bolted on a set of XTs and they have been like a rock ever since. I did replace one of the bearings, but I consider that normal wear and tear.

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    I really like my XT's ...
    Simple and solid.


    btw - here's your 29er approved crankset...
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    29ers FLEX everything biggest crutch yet invented since the Penny Farthing

    Who needs a phaggy gravity dropper when ya got a 29er




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    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    WTF

    Atlas rule Ex BB best thing to happen to cranks since sliced bread, u guys just don't know ow to set preload though my grandmother rest her soul could do it

    I've got a few sets of Ex BB cranks. I just like my Turbines. My Turbine/Hope Pro2 hub has much less noticeable 'drag' using a middle of the road UN54 sq taper BB than my 07 Stylo 1:1/XT hub does w/ the Ex BB.
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    Simply XT.
    Price and performance, and weight.
    FS Gravity Light are a good option, but they are overpriced compared to XT here in Europe(or at least they where)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I've got a few sets of Ex BB cranks. I just like my Turbines. My Turbine/Hope Pro2 hub has much less noticeable 'drag' using a middle of the road UN54 sq taper BB than my 07 Stylo 1:1/XT hub does w/ the Ex BB.
    Actually that crank is what turned me too RF

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    29ers FLEX everything biggest crutch yet invented since the Penny Farthing

    Who needs a phaggy gravity dropper when ya got a 29er
    your comments look flexy

    chur

    Back on topic--can't go wrong with XT's. I have run a few sets, and have never had issues.

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    Is this the future?

    Also check my thread on this in the DH/FR forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLL
    your comments look flexy

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    Back on topic--can't go wrong with XT's. I have run a few sets, and have never had issues.
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    First off I'm rather surprised how many people are putting those Gravity Lights on Highline builds.

    I bought a set too and sent the damn things right back when I saw how weak they looked next to the Highline.

    So I ordered these mofos. Quad BB bearings, UBER thick cranks. IMO, this is the ONLY way to go with a Highline. You never really notice how flexy cranks can be until you ride one of these.

    I got mine in 175mm and can REALLY put the hammer down. Even though I have 2 rings up front, I didn't drop to the 22 ring once my entire climb on the first ride.

    The other grea thing about these is that they are slightly wider than other 83mm cranks, so the bolt for ISCG tabs don't hit the small ring. My Stinger ISCG fits great!



    Putting gravity lights on a Highline is like putting your penis into a grinder. Just not a good idea.

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    Nice Yo, looks tight..
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    If you's a pimp, hit up the Deity Vendettas.



    Am putting these on my Highline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G
    If you's a pimp, hit up the Deity Vendettas.



    Am putting these on my Highline.
    I looked at getting those, but got a great deal on the Gravity DH Cranks.

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    I've decided to stick with XT (770 this time)

    The reason I asked originally was to find out whether there was another crank that does what XT does (for my riding style) only better and for reasons I don't know. Longer lasting bearings, easier maintenance, more bombproof installation, more strip-proof threads in the crankarms. I know there are some who lead a Shimano-free existence (a badge of honor for them) just like some lead a Microsoft-free life so they'd never choose XT or even XP. When I sold the Spot the purchaser had many questions about whether Shimano was any good. I guess I convinced him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy
    The reason I asked originally was to find out whether there was another crank that does what XT does (for my riding style) only better and for reasons I don't know. Longer lasting bearings, easier maintenance, more bombproof installation, more strip-proof threads in the crankarms. I know there are some who lead a Shimano-free existence (a badge of honor for them) just like some lead a Microsoft-free life so they'd never choose XT or even XP. When I sold the Spot the purchaser had many questions about whether Shimano was any good. I guess I convinced him.
    I hear ya XC in the end ya have to try these things for yourself, what works for some may not work for everyone, so many varibles, imo bearings are a subjective subject and very much a user thing rather than a performance issue, preload setup while not hard can have a affect on life and wear, conditons, though I subjected mine to as bad as it gets! Im pretty happy with the wear I get and savings Ive made, others have different experience as I said there's always the human factor and then jra

    The new XTs look pretty sweet, Im sure theyre fine for most people!
    I do thing RF is stiffer in the arms and I like there spline, the preload might be an issue for some but Ive not found that and I can get a better chain line! Until it fails me Im prbably not going to change, Im one of those Apple not PC people Sram not Shimano dudes, Ive only had shimano in the past year cause my DH bike had some Saint stuff, most of it I hated, so hasn't endeared me much towards it, apart from the brakes which I like on my DJ bike!

    There's allot of good options out there now, so it comes down to what suits you, brand ya like etc etc

    I also like the 3pc Deity stuff, they are bomb proof, run em on the DJ bike! not trail or AM options for me, but HL/DHR maybe

    Once I did witness an XT crankset have its arms in a G out on an AM bike end up in the 6oclock postion on both sides, was funny as hell, and Ive not been keen ever since, we did get that guy onto RF Atlas not sure what hes running now, probably changed back now! Some of the old crew seem to be going back to Shimano now Im no longer riding with them, I'll stick to what works for me, XTs obviously work well for you, BBs are cheap I don't know why people make such a fuss over them, internal bottom brackets were 3-4 times the cost, maybe eveyone has short memories, much hardr to change over, chain lines were worse total pain in the arse!

    I love the external BB, maybe its done the LBS out of some work its not hard to change EXs yourself, most people needed an LBS to do ISIS, Octalink or square taper, and it took longer, more chance of stripping the BB housing of the frame Higher margin on an internal Oct/ISIS too, just some thoughts..
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    3 PC Deity cranks?

    How much do they weigh?Anyone?

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    Deity weights are a mystery - officially. My research revealed 960g for the cranks + BB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoPawn
    First off I'm rather surprised how many people are putting those Gravity Lights on Highline builds.

    I bought a set too and sent the damn things right back when I saw how weak they looked next to the Highline.
    Just curious, how can you tell something is weak just by looking at it? Just wondering.
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    I didn't see anyone mentioning Saints. That's what I am running. I love them.


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    Have you looked at the new SLX stuff? If you need a crank that is a little burlier, but not Saint burly it seems like a pretty nice option. Lighter than the Saints, and come with steel inserts too.

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    The Gravity crankset is burly for sure... and its steroid-pumping looks DO make other cranks look wimpy in comparison. I had a set on my old bike and they were really quite good. Gravity Light and XT are probably the best bet for most riders though.

    If you don't need to run a double ring, chainguide, bashguard, external BB or a mountain bike, really old Dura Ace is another good option:

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    What about LX? Same weight as XT for about half as much, best crankset for the $$$ IMHO. I've had three of the HT II's over the last few years with no issues at all. I bought a replacement BB set when I put a dent in one of the cups for about $30 and despite what the "seals" say, they can be disassembled. When the bearings are toast you can always go the Enduro route as others have suggested.
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    Damn double post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Chris
    What about LX?
    Dude - this is the Turner forum. Who can brag and show porn pictures of inexpensive but functional parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    Dude - this is the Turner forum. Who can brag and show porn pictures of inexpensive but functional parts?
    If you need porn, how about slapping a blingy bashguard on it?
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    Deity weight,

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G
    Deity weights are a mystery - officially. My research revealed 960g for the cranks + BB.
    Talked to them today and was told 1006 for cranks and BB..CF..

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    In general I think the Homie's have the cranks thing dialled for most applications, one nice thing with external BB is its easy to retro fit most brands [obviously not 3 pieace or ISIS] it mostly comes down to what brand works for yer!

    Im gonna give those Enduro bearings a rock as replacements next time again!
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    I thought of LX

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    If you need porn, how about slapping a blingy bashguard on it?
    Pricewise it is cheaper ($130 as we speak at Blue Sky Cycle but everyone else is at about $190). Weightwise--LX 907 grams (or around there) XT 853 g (or around there, but who's counting, right?). The 770 XT's got some fancy shmancy steel/carbon composite middle ring that's supposed to be more durable.

    Tell you the truth, I've never had anything but an XT crank (going all the way back to square taper). The durability of the chainrings is a known quantity to me. I've heard rumors that the LX has a higher Q factor (some are bothered by that, I don't know if I would be...what's high anyway?)

    LX, XT, SLX, it's all changing incrementally year to year and I thought I'd ask Homerville if maybe other cranks had become worthy of late. So far I see a lot of votes for different heavy duty double chainring setups so that's good info for those looking for that sort of crank. I hope you all don't lose any sleep knowing I might just go with XT one more time.

    BTW, I looked at a bike shop's Specialized line to see where LX was spec'd and it went all the way up to their $2400 bikes. So maybe LX has come a long way, Q factor be dammed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I've got a few sets of Ex BB cranks. I just like my Turbines. My Turbine/Hope Pro2 hub has much less noticeable 'drag' using a middle of the road UN54 sq taper BB than my 07 Stylo 1:1/XT hub does w/ the Ex BB.
    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    Actually that crank is what turned me too RF

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    Wow. I was wondering if I was missing out on running an X-Type crankset. I'm running RF 5-arm 94/58 cranks and a UN-73 on my Flux, have another brand new set of RF 5-arm 94/58 cranks in a box, and a set of RF 5-arm 110/74 cranks I will be putting back on my IBOC Pro-SX frame when I get around to turning it into a single speed.

    I recently pulled the cranks off the BB when I switched out to 9sp drivetrain, and I noticed the UN-73 BB had some drag and what feels like generally dry bearings. It appears the UN-7X series is no longer made. I guess I'll have to go with a UN-54. I just hate the plastic cup on the UN-X3 and later styles. I wish I could still buy a UN-72 or even a UN-92. I put a UN-92 on my Rockhopper in 1993 and I thought I was cool stuff.



    Although, I'm wondering how much weight I can save by going with a XT M-770 crankset. I'm not sure about the weights listed at weightweenies.com for the RF crankset and Shimano BB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royta
    Wow. I was wondering if I was missing out on running an X-Type crankset. I'm running RF 5-arm 94/58 cranks and a UN-73 on my Flux, have another brand new set of RF 5-arm 94/58 cranks in a box, and a set of RF 5-arm 110/74 cranks I will be putting back on my IBOC Pro-SX frame when I get around to turning it into a single speed.

    I recently pulled the cranks off the BB when I switched out to 9sp drivetrain, and I noticed the UN-73 BB had some drag and what feels like generally dry bearings. It appears the UN-7X series is no longer made. I guess I'll have to go with a UN-54. I just hate the plastic cup on the UN-X3 and later styles. I wish I could still buy a UN-72 or even a UN-92. I put a UN-92 on my Rockhopper in 1993 and I thought I was cool stuff.


    Although, I'm wondering how much weight I can save by going with a XT M-770 crankset. I'm not sure about the weights listed at weightweenies.com for the RF crankset and Shimano BB's.
    I run a RF Deus on my Spot it would be sweet on yer Flux if ya like RF why change, they are stiffer in the arms imo at the high end, Deus for XTR or XT imo! probaly why they are a few grams heavier!

    Ya could get the Enduro BB for that crank ya got also! or SKF or is that the adjustable Ti version, numbers are lost on me its been a long time for that buddy

    Oh and ya can have Badd Ass black or Shiny silver both look hawt shiny silver be nice on a polished Flux though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Talked to them today and was told 1006 for cranks and BB..CF..
    These are no weight weenie cranks, but bombproof cranks? YES...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    These are no weight weenie cranks, but bombproof cranks? YES...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    If you don't need to run a double ring, chainguide, bashguard, external BB or a mountain bike, really old Dura Ace is another good option
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLL
    Just curious, how can you tell something is weak just by looking at it? Just wondering.
    Because I've used Saints before. Couldn't find any in 175mm x 83mm.

    So I went with the Lights. Weak. Sure they hold the pedals onto the frame, but other than that negates the whole point of having such a stiff frame.

    Mega burly cranks + Highline = Insane stability and cornering response, esp. for heavier riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demo-9
    I didn't see anyone mentioning Saints. That's what I am running. I love them.

    That's what my riding pal xtrahoss has on his HL as well. I've had really good luck with the two sets of newer XT hollowtech II's, and I'd like to get me a set of Saints for my HL when it shows, but they are costly. And the new Saints due out in a few months are even more $$$, holy crap. $450 for the double ring set with BB I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy
    Pricewise it is cheaper ($130 as we speak at Blue Sky Cycle but everyone else is at about $190). Weightwise--LX 907 grams (or around there) XT 853 g (or around there, but who's counting, right?). The 770 XT's got some fancy shmancy steel/carbon composite middle ring that's supposed to be more durable.

    Tell you the truth, I've never had anything but an XT crank (going all the way back to square taper). The durability of the chainrings is a known quantity to me. I've heard rumors that the LX has a higher Q factor (some are bothered by that, I don't know if I would be...what's high anyway?)
    My LX's came in at 855g with one spacer on each side and I paid $128, it pays to shop around. Guess I got a light set too.

    I may be wrong, but I thought the Q factor was the same across Shimano's high end line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007
    $450 for the double ring set with BB I believe.
    I hope that is a typo somewhere. $450 for a crankset w/bb? Never. I paid shop price for my Saints and I thought that was a rip-off. Granted the cranks deliver, but I would get 2 sets of cranks before one set at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demo-9
    I hope that is a typo somewhere. $450 for a crankset w/bb? Never. I paid shop price for my Saints and I thought that was a rip-off. Granted the cranks deliver, but I would get 2 sets of cranks before one set at that price.

    Nope, see here at the bottom:

    http://www.sicklines.com/2008/06/26/...int/#more-2280

    the saints for 68/73 bb's are $425, for the 83bb the are $450, MSRP of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoPawn
    Because I've used Saints before. Couldn't find any in 175mm x 83mm.

    So I went with the Lights. Weak. Sure they hold the pedals onto the frame, but other than that negates the whole point of having such a stiff frame.

    Mega burly cranks + Highline = Insane stability and cornering response, esp. for heavier riders.
    Fair enough. perhaps they are not the best choice for the HL. Don't know, don't have one. They do just fine on the RFX . . . and I'm 250#. Super stable.

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    On my '07 Spot I have the following crankset:
    > Middelburn RS 7, ISIS arms, with XC spider
    > 26t granny and 36 middle ring
    > Straitline bash
    > Crank Brothers bottom bracket with steel spindle




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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmund
    On my '07 Spot I have the following crankset:
    > Middelburn RS 7, ISIS arms, with XC spider
    > 26t granny and 36 middle ring
    > Straitline bash
    > Crank Brothers bottom bracket with steel spindle




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    I like middleburn allot but are they not ISIS only? Is that a drawback? I have only ever used external.

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    shimano hones are a great buy. as light as gravity lites. stronger i would say. mini-saints
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude
    shimano hones are a great buy. as light as gravity lites. stronger i would say. mini-saints
    Yeah those suckers are great cranks for an AM/light FR bike.

    I have some on my AM bike and they're pretty damn strong and stiff considering the weight.

    Too bad they don't come in 83mm for lighter riders wanting a good DH race crank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    4yrs of worn and crusty
    Tell me that bashguard is not 4 years old?! It's spotless! (Was Gamut even around 4 yrs ago?)

    OT: How much weight is saved with the Gamut bash over an E13? Considering the 9.5mm vs 13mm width and speed holes my guess is "a noticeable amount".
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoPawn
    First off I'm rather surprised how many people are putting those Gravity Lights on Highline builds.
    You fail to realize how many Homers build the Highline into a HighLite and ride it for a trail bike!
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    Tell me that bashguard is not 4 years old?! It's spotless! (Was Gamut even around 4 yrs ago?)

    OT: How much weight is saved with the Gamut bash over an E13? Considering the 9.5mm vs 13mm width and speed holes my guess is "a noticeable amount".
    Nah the bash is not four years old its an 07 add on but never got used as I couldn't fit it without some mods so never got around to riding it, I ended up giving it a dremel to fit the crank arms, Gamut still warranty it with that mod!
    Seems pretty sturdy, big weight saving over the RF Diablous bash though, have to see how it lasts one day

    Never weighed my e13 before I cut it up to make 2 taco's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude
    shimano hones are a great buy. as light as gravity lites. stronger i would say. mini-saints
    Second that vote for Hones. Mine have been trouble-free. They're cheap, light and good looking to boot!
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