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    See my shadow

    I decided to checkout the performance of Shimano's newest creation since the first examples are available over here in Europe.
    Heard some good things about the XT and XTR derailleurs a wanted to see if this is what I'm looking for.
    I had used SRAM XO and X9 shifters and derailleurs used in the past and wasn't that satisfied with its performance.Don't get me wrong, they are great but I think there is still room for improvement left.
    Now I can't wait to go out and take some rides to see if Shimano had noticeable improved their products in the last few years.

    Anyway, here some pictures for you.
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    looking good!

    I recently picked up these (about 100g lighter than Saint and lots cheaper )


    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/cmadrigal/2736763474/" title="Shimano SLX cranks 665 by cmadrigal, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2736763474_ea00ce886d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Shimano SLX cranks 665" /></a>

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    Twister? Extracurricular activites?

    Those cranks look nice. I might be on my way out with my old m952's, but hopefully I can squeeze some more life out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Twister? Extracurricular activites?


    that's the second time I've been told that

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    Rad,

    Lookin good bro! Let us know how it works out. I went with the older style Saint on my new Highline build to take adavntage of the bolt through design. However I will be getting the new Saint Cranks soon.

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    Darth Vader would like those Saint shifters.

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    I think my biggest motivation to switch to a shadow RD would be for the straighter cable routing. My old LX is only on its second season though, so it will stick around a little longer.
    When under pressure, your level of performance will sink to your level of preparation.

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    Yes, the cable routing is very clean with that Shimano units.
    The spring in the derailleur cage also feels very stiff and keeps nice tension to the chain in bumpy terrain so you have less chainslap. It shifts real fast, faster and somehow less noisy than it used to be with my SRAM setup. I might add that this is the 'SS' short cage version which only works well with a single chain ring setup in front due to its very short cage. I measured 50mm from pulley to pulley in comparison with the short cage X9 which is 55mm long.
    I run my bike with a dual chainring up front but can't use all the gears when using the 22T since the short cage can't catch up all the chain lenght needed. But it works at 5 from 9 gears which is ok for me since I never shift into small/small gear combos which shouldn't be used anyway.
    The shift levers are unspectacular with their plastic levers which seems to be shorter than at XTR or XT shifters. I would wish a stepless side adjustment like the XTR levers use for handlebar positioning since the Saint's dual bolts can be tricky to adjust out in the field. But you do this only one time so this won't be a real issue. Also a bonus is the multi release shifting which works in the classic Shimano way by upshifting by your indexfinger or in the SRAM way by using your thumb.
    I feel both shifter paddles are relative far away from each other so they minimize misshifting by pushing the wrong lever. They just feel right in their position wile riding but at short steep climbs where you change body position to stand up and hammer to enthusiastic it is possible to get clipped in with your baggy riding short.
    Guess where I know ...

    Thats it. Nothing more to say about it as it all does what a derailleur does anyway. It just works.

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    Thanks for the feedback. The reason why I left Shimano rear DRs to begin with was the excessive chainslap that was inherit with HL linked bikes. I also like the 1:1 ratio of Sram shifters, but I may give the Shadow a shot since it looks pimp and the fact that their new systems are geared towards 2 rings up front along with the stiffer spring to keep the racket down.

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    You are going to have to post when you have some time on the SLX cranks. I am planning on buying a set shortly, unless there is something wrong with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polandspring88
    You are going to have to post when you have some time on the SLX cranks. I am planning on buying a set shortly, unless there is something wrong with them.
    I have a couple of rides on them already and they are great so far....

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    RaD,

    Did you get the PM I sent some time back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/cmadrigal/2736763474/" title="Shimano SLX cranks 665 by cmadrigal, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2736763474_ea00ce886d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Shimano SLX cranks 665" /></a>
    Love the book title in the background - "Mastering Mountain Bike Skills"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinch
    Love the book title in the background - "Mastering Mountain Bike Skills"
    yessir!

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    Cris,

    Does the SLX come with a BB? I saw the 175 on sale at CRC for like ~80€ or so and figured it had to be without the BB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Cris,

    Does the SLX come with a BB? I saw the 175 on sale at CRC for like ~80€ or so and figured it had to be without the BB.

    yessir... BB included

    I paid 90 EUR for the set https://bike-components.de/catalog/S...193c12e40b1794

    here's what came in the box (OEM packing, but who cares )
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/cmadrigal/2735928891/" title="Shimano SLX cranks 665 by cmadrigal, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2735928891_cdc3a488e8_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Shimano SLX cranks 665" /></a>

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    Hmmm...looks like I might be putting through a CRC order soon. Need some cool weather clothing too and they're having a sale.

    Riding this weekend? We're supposed to have rain out here, so I'll be heading out soon to get in under the wire, but I also cut my thumb badly yesterday, so it will be iffy. Thinking about heading to the Sachsicher Schweiz, as we found some trails out there in a particular zone, so we might follow some gps tracks for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Hmmm...looks like I might be putting through a CRC order soon. Need some cool weather clothing too and they're having a sale.

    Riding this weekend? We're supposed to have rain out here, so I'll be heading out soon to get in under the wire, but I also cut my thumb badly yesterday, so it will be iffy. Thinking about heading to the Sachsicher Schweiz, as we found some trails out there in a particular zone, so we might follow some gps tracks for them.

    cool.... I don't know yet...my sister arrived over here yesterday, but she rides, so I guess I might ride and also do "tourist stuff" over the weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    RaD,

    Did you get the PM I sent some time back?
    Yes, reply is in the works already!

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    i sure love my XO sram shifters and rear der.

    but that shadow sure looks like it tucks in nice and would be hardrer to knock off.

    the sram unit really sticks out to far --------i knocked my rear der off this weekend and replaced it to ride the next day .

    that shadow looks real nice

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    Yeah, I killed a XO by hitting a rock and than went to the cheaper X9 derailleur wich served me well but UGI made me do the switch back to Shimano.
    The Saint DR looks real solid and it seems to be a tricked out unit which indeed tucks in pretty nice, just what I always wanted.

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    I double checked on the SLX ring range and noted they were 36t for the middle ring. Did they fudge the tabs so other rings can't fit? It looks like I can get the triple on sale, and I'd like to throw my old 4 bolt chainring and bashring on there.

    edit: oops, just saw that the triple is the XC version. Damn. That brings the XT back into the equation.

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    Here are some closeups and some shots from bike in my living room
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