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    Need advice - make my 5.5 Spot more aggressive

    Hi All,

    I have a 5.5 Spot(2007) with Pike 545 Air , RP23 , 5.1 Rims and HR 2.35 rear and Minion 2.35 front.

    I want to make the bike more aggressive by changing 1 or 2 parts.

    What do you think ? i dont want to move to the RFX because of the money issue and the ability to do XC riding.

    Thx

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    add a 36 Talas up front. It'll have the same ride height at 130mm of the Pike and slack it out just enough at 160mm.
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    Was also thinking 160mm fork.
    possibly coil shock.
    2.4-2.5 front tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highroller
    Was also thinking 160mm fork.
    possibly coil shock.
    2.4-2.5 front tire.
    Nailed it.

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    2.5 Nevegal up front. That should make it nice and slow, er...agressive!

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    ill buy the money argument but yer mistaken on its xc ability. its no racer but its damn fun on tight, twisy, fast 1 track.

    now go get some bigger tires. i found the advantage in a 2.4 to be pretty aggressive feeling without bein overly heavy. maybe add a shorty stem and some big, wide bars. i just threw some 28" easton havoc's and a 70 x 6 stem on the rfx and wow! vee-vah law diff! about 2 hunny worth all told.

    so i guess im suggestin 4 parts, dbl what ya asked for but deal with it.
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    but why? sounds like your set up is perfect for the spot already. your current fork, wheel and tire choice is already aggressive. i suppose you could put a coil shock on.

    my 03 spot is built up much the same, coil pike, highroller/minion tyres, 321 rims but i have a van r coil shock and a 60mm stem perfect for xc/mild dh/jumps and general titting around.

    or just ride it more aggressive )

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    ill buy the money argument but yer mistaken on its xc ability. its no racer but its damn fun on tight, twisy, fast 1 track.

    now go get some bigger tires. i found the advantage in a 2.4 to be pretty aggressive feeling without bein overly heavy. maybe add a shorty stem and some big, wide bars. i just threw some 28" easton havoc's and a 70 x 6 stem on the rfx and wow! vee-vah law diff! about 2 hunny worth all told.

    so i guess im suggestin 4 parts, dbl what ya asked for but deal with it.
    This would be the best bang for your buck right here.

    Else get yourself an Avy or CCDB.

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    Add a coil shock, I've always found it makes a big difference in aggro riding on choppy terrrain. IMO even a pushed air shock isn not as aggro fun as a pushed or similar level coil.

    Tires: consider 2.4 Ardents. I just put a set on my Spot, and have a set of 2.5s on my Highline. Kickarse tire. Rolls even better than the High Rollers and corners MUCH better. (North East trails)

    Shorter stem and wider bars could be a consideration as well. I think the coil shock will make a big difference.*cough*Avalanche*Cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya99
    I want to make the bike more aggressive by changing 1 or 2 parts.
    Black wheels.
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    Thx for your replies

    Some questions :

    **If i will put 36 talas i will add some weight (150 grams) to the front ? how its will change the ride?( the A2C will be the same - Pike at 140 and the 36 talas at 130 are 515 m)

    ** I know that the Minion is quit aggressive (front),if i will put minion instead of the HR at the rear , how will it change the ride?

    **What is the best coil shock for the spot?and what i2i2?

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya99
    Some questions :

    **If i will put 36 talas i will add some weight (150 grams) to the front ? how its will change the ride?( the A2C will be the same - Pike at 140 and the 36 talas at 130 are 515 m)

    ** I know that the Minion is quit aggressive (front),if i will put minion instead of the HR at the rear , how will it change the ride?

    **What is the best coil shock for the spot?and what i2i2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya99
    **What is the best coil shock for the spot?and what i2i2?
    Best? that'll start a battle.

    I'll add a +1 with Jayem. Consider the Avy Chubbie.
    Also the CCDB or a Pushed DHXc. Folks have had positive things to say about the Zoke coil and it's more economical.

    Avy's my personal Favorite.

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    On the coil shock side, consider a Fox Vanilla R - you can pick one up cheap, try it out, if you like it get it Pushed, and still spend 1/2 what you would on a CCDB or Avalanche. Doesn't have all the adjustments of the others but gets high marks from others on MTBR. I am trying out a newer Van R on my spot and really like it - heavy but a better ride than an rp3 IMO. I'll second (or third, whatever) the wider bars and shorter stem.
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    I don't know how your bike is set up, but theoretically, if you were to hand me a typical modern XC bike, the first thing I would do is swap the stem to something shorter and throw on some platform pedals... then look at the tires... I don't care if it has a 800$ shock or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AW_
    I don't know how your bike is set up, but theoretically, if you were to hand me a typical modern XC bike, the first thing I would do is swap the stem to something shorter and throw on some platform pedals... then look at the tires... I don't care if it has a 800$ shock or not.
    Agreed. I'd go for 2.5DH front tire first. that'll change the ride instantly. then short stem (50mm) n wide bars (28" or longer). Coil shock isn't really that necessary. Despite of the debate about which manufacturer makes the best rear shock, IMHO the best rear shock is your legs, controlled by the best super computer, much longer travel too and best of all, it's free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya99
    Hi All,

    I have a 5.5 Spot(2007) with Pike 545 Air , RP23 , 5.1 Rims and HR 2.35 rear and Minion 2.35 front.

    I want to make the bike more aggressive by changing 1 or 2 parts.

    What do you think ? i dont want to move to the RFX because of the money issue and the ability to do XC riding.

    Thx
    What does "aggressive" mean?

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    Add some flame pin striping and maybe a skull to the headbadge.

    Oh, and the wider bars and shorter stem is a good relatively inexpensive upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jubilee
    What does "aggressive" mean?

    Where is the bike lacking for you?
    My questions exactly; which component is lacking performance? Or are you just wanting to make it look more aggressive?

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    if price is an issue, first remove rear brake, then front brake

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    I think this'll do it:


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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    ill buy the money argument but yer mistaken on its xc ability. its no racer but its damn fun on tight, twisy, fast 1 track.

    now go get some bigger tires. i found the advantage in a 2.4 to be pretty aggressive feeling without bein overly heavy. maybe add a shorty stem and some big, wide bars. i just threw some 28" easton havoc's and a 70 x 6 stem on the rfx and wow! vee-vah law diff! about 2 hunny worth all told.

    so i guess im suggestin 4 parts, dbl what ya asked for but deal with it.
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    5Spot is a racer, its kills it on the course, ya don;t all need 21lbs and lycra to kick arse on those roadie dirt trails, ya might not win but its can nail it if setup right!, Ive 12/24hr mine done adventure racers and enduro's I'd take it in an XC race, setup and fitness, amazing what a tire can do, and I did all this on a tru axle forks and hubs, Spot @ 28lbs XC killa, next Im planning an XC highline just to prove it can be done, Ive seen a SC Bullet raced at a 12hr once he did pretty well and was a fit bastard!

    Sorry CC just had to throw that out there! but its true, don't underestimate the power of the chur I mean spot, people pigeon hole that bike far too much, and usually ones who never ridden it in many guises!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    Agreed. I'd go for 2.5DH front tire first. that I'll change the ride instantly. then short stem (50mm) n wide bars (28" or longer). Coil shock isn't really that necessary. Despite of the debate about which manufacturer makes the best rear shock, IMHO the best rear shock is your legs, controlled by the best super computer, much longer travel too and best of all, it's free.
    Finally a good answer, don't waste money on Fork upgrades and Shocks!

    Yes coil is nice, but I'm sure the RP23 can take it CC DHs his I used to abuse hell outta my RP3!


    Scuby CC bang on start with some big tires! Ardents/ Minions 2plys!

    To go with that though shorter stem and Bar will transform ya handling and capability into a bad ass Spot, 36s are a crutch, I'll take on anyone with a Spot 36 with my PIKE Spot any day that's fine if ya want a slacker HA, that's the only reason I see any point but that screws its balance, the Spot is one bike setup right that can do allot without fluffing around!

    I rarely use my Uturn and when I do it was for endurance events then left it at what ever felt nice HA wise!

    Ive done stuff on my Spot my RFX and 66 has done and felt no difference in stiffness on landing or stability, what always worried me was my back end, I'm no lightweight and if I came up sort I was more worried about my chain stays!

    Bars 28inch as scuby says
    Stem 50-70mm [wider bar means shorter stem]
    Big tires, cheapest and best mods ya could make

    Even without riding when I play with my bars on both bikes the Spot seems XC narrow with its Easton EA70s vs the RFX 29.5s might have to get some bigger ones for the Spot again, Dam I can;t wait to ride again!
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    maybe just chain it up out back and spray it with a hose when it barks. this worked for a old neighbor of mine. his dog got super aggressive that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G
    I think this'll do it:


    That works for me do they do that in a 31.8mm
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    yeah but, we were talkin about the rfx. miss a round of meds or get in a extra? i can never tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    yeah but, we were talkin about the rfx. miss a round of meds or get in a extra? i can never tell.
    Dam it

    my bad ahh mssed around I think I can never remember now, mems gone

    carry on carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    maybe just chain it up out back and spray it with a hose when it barks. this worked for a old neighbor of mine. his dog got super aggressive that way.
    Dogs don't like being chained up
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailadvent
    Dogs don't like being chained up
    hmmmm... i think ya may be right. perhaps that explains the dogs aggressive behavior. just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    hmmmm... i think ya may be right. perhaps that explains the dogs aggressive behavior. just a guess.
    Definitely the dog is agitated, water works for other things but he/she is already upset probably just wants some walking or running regularly, my buddy lets me know when hes agitated, normally chews my arm and its play time again, they need exercise and happy bones, mines chewing on a big bone right now and is happy as for another 30 -45min or so some peace, tried going for a walk today but its crappy as hell outside..
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    all you really need is a SpokeDrunkies headbadge on your Spot....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokermtb
    all you really need is a SpokeDrunkies headbadge on your Spot....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G
    I think this'll do it:

    The op needs this like I need a kick in the balls.
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