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    Looking into a Flux...

    Hey guys and gals. I have been doing a few of the 100 miler series and some other endurance races and I have been sticking with my hardtails. I've tried these races on my Fisher Ziggurat - which I broke, that turned into a Trek 9.9 - which I broke, and the latest ones I've done on my Fisher Rig converted to gears. I'm not wanting to switch because I broke the bikes...one was stupidity and one was a warranty issue.

    I did two courses which have me seriously thinking about going to FS. The Wilderness 101 and the Firecracker 50 had me wishing for some rear travel. I'm looking around for some choices and have noticed the Turner Flux. My best friend has one and it's the best FS I've ridden. Light responsive and no noticeable loss to the rear suspension. Have any of you fought the same battle and actually found out the FS was nicer? were you quicker on the FS? The ironic part is that the bike I'm riding right now(RIG) is just under 26 lbs and the turner can be built up at 23-24 lbs so it would be an advantage at just the weight. I'm really leaning towards picking up the turner and building my new endurance rig out of it. Smart move??? Let me hear your thoughts.

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    yes. now the build spec please.
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    yes, my Flux is faster around my 50k loop than my HT (stumpjumper). Has more traction on the uphills as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    yes. now the build spec please.
    2008 Turner Flux Build
    * Frame Size: Large
    * Frame Year: '08
    * Color (frame/rear triangle): White
    * Shock: Fox RP3
    * Fork: Fox F100RL
    * Brakes: Avid Juicy 7
    * Brake Levers: Avid Juicy 7
    * Cranks: Bontrager Race X Lite GXP
    * Shifters: SRAM X0
    * Front Derailleur: SRAM X9
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM X9
    * Chain: SRAM PC-991
    * Pedals: Egg Beaters SL
    * Stem: Bontrager Race X Lite
    * Handlebar: Bontrager Race X Lite OS Carbon Riser
    * Seatpost: Thompson Elite 27.2
    * Saddle: Forte Pro SLX
    * Bottom Bracket: Bontrager GXP
    * Cassette: SRAM PG-990
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: Bontrager
    * Front Tire: Kenda Karma
    * Front Rim: Bontrager Race Lite
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Bontrager
    * Rear Tire: Kenda Karma
    * Rear Rim: Bontrager Race Lite
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Bontrager
    * Seatpost Collar: Bontrager
    *** Build Weight: ???

    This is what I currently have as it will be switched over from the Trek Elite 9.9 that I was racing before I broke the frame. As it goes into build phase I'm sure I'll sneak some better stuff in there too.
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    The Flux is a good choice and your build seems good. I don't like Sram chains. For some reason I break them. I use Shimano with the Sram Quick-Link. Makes for easy chain cleaning. Have fun with your new Flux...

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    yep, a solid build. the juicys arent my fave but they dont suck either. nuthin wrong with a good sram chain in my book. carry on.
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    You will not be disappointed my friend! These long distance races and endurance races is what the flux is designed for. At the end of the day, your body will love you for the change over to fs. Your build will be perfect for your needs. Now pull the trigger on that frame and go have blast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC62701
    Have any of you fought the same battle and actually found out the FS was nicer? were you quicker on the FS?
    Yes! Went from a 24 lb. Paragon to a 24 lb. Flux and started achieving my best results ever- won the state championship on my second race on the Flux. This was for pure XC (~20 mile courses), so I'm sure the difference would only be amplified over a longer course. I felt much more fresh in the second half of the race on the Flux, and was quicker over anything more demanding than a dirt road to boot. Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregdr
    The Flux is a good choice and your build seems good. I don't like Sram chains. For some reason I break them. I use Shimano with the Sram Quick-Link. Makes for easy chain cleaning. Have fun with your new Flux...
    I've been ok on the SRAM chains. I've been having geat luck and no issues on them so no need to change

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    yep, a solid build. the juicys arent my fave but they dont suck either. nuthin wrong with a good sram chain in my book. carry on.
    The juicy's have been working great for me and I can get a killer deal on a brand new set so I'll probably do these. I would like to get a new crank though. Not sure what to get. I've been liking the Bontrager Race X Lite Carbon that I have but not willing to spend enough dough to step up to XTR's.

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    One of the NYC guys I think you spoke with at the Wilderness, Nate, was racing on his Flux until he went rigid SS recently.

    (Rigid SS over that Wilderness course sounds like a challenge I don't want to attempt!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement
    One of the NYC guys I think you spoke with at the Wilderness, Nate, was racing on his Flux until he went rigid SS recently.

    (Rigid SS over that Wilderness course sounds like a challenge I don't want to attempt!)
    That's an interesting reverse transgression...lol. After doing that course I bet he was wishing for his Flux. I have dreams of completing some of the endurance races on a SS one day.

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    ive used a ton of bonty bits over the years and have liked most of it. if ya feel a need to change, look at xt. the rings are mighty soft but otherwise they are a solid choice. i always tell folks to run em till they die and replace with race face rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    ive used a ton of bonty bits over the years and have liked most of it. if ya feel a need to change, look at xt. the rings are mighty soft but otherwise they are a solid choice. i always tell folks to run em till they die and replace with race face rings.
    True. I was just checking them out. I thought they were too heavy but they really aren't in comparison. I also was looking at the Race Face Deus XC Cranks and they look pretty sweet. They are both in the same weight range too. I just wonder which are the more dependable.

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    First of all why are you just thinking about a Flux??? Don't think just pull the trigger you will not be dissapointed!!

    In regards to the crank.... Shimano will be the most reliable. The RaceFace cranks are nice but they seem to be hit or miss, and Shimano is just hit. The Bontrager cranks are nice but I think you will be happier with a set of XT cranks, the las time I compared the weight of the Deus and the XT they were within 1oz. of each other, and they will be stiffer.

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    The Flux will be a welcome change. Every time I've raced the Firecracker, I've been especially happy to have a fs bike, especially on the second lap!

    Don't necessarily move to the Flux because it can be built lighter - move to the Flux because it will ride that much better at the same weight XT cranks are bombproof reliable, light, and shift great, too.
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    if ya decide on the rf's, toss the stock bearings for enduro's before the install. rf bearings are total crap and not worth the bother.
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    i ride a 23lb flux. i admit i have weenie tendencies, and everytime i go to the races i think, maybe i should get a hardtail, and then i'd have a 20.5 lb bike, and surely i'd fly the climbs. then i get on the flux and thrash it round the course, and all is good with the world again.

    when i'm out on the course there is no other bike i'm thinking of, and i finish the race totally hyped up about how good the flux is. brilliant piece of kit.
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    Well it looks like there's only one thing to do...order one. Now for the color question...what to get. The candy blue is nice, the metallic blue is sweet, black looks good but white has caught my eye. I think all built up that would look pretty hot.

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    I believe the 08 Flux comes with the RP 23. Good thing.
    Personally, I'd go with Formula K18s and X9 shifters, perhaps a Cane Creek 110, though a Chris King really is a great HS for the Flux. Everything else looks pretty good.

    Go with white. Best color ever. I will never order up another color as long as I live.
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    Awesome!!! I haven't seen a white flux anywhere! That's part of the reason I like it. It's pretty rare. I'm doing the X-0 shifters and Juicy 7's cause I already have em. No need to upgrade for now.

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    there was a white flux built up last month. very fockin pretty. of course im all about the candy blue too and theres a good posibility my next frame will be black smoke. lots of good choices lately.
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    Where are the pics? I saw a pic of a white sultan I've been drooling over. I need the white flux.

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    do a search for "june totm". it should be in there somewhere.
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    Just ordered a flux in raw myself, but did like the white; here's a pic posted by drindiana recently...
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    I'm curious to know how the 9.9 broke and what broke on it. I thought by now those frames were pretty stout due to constant engineering of the original design. Also considering a fully built 9.9 is now almost $6,100 USD.

    I think just about every full suspension manufacturer around 2000 did some tests and they all found the same thing- their test riders all felt like they were going a bit slower around the course, while the timer observed they were going much faster. I think the bigger ones behind this finding were Giant and Specialized. So they went much faster, even at a 2-3 pound penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XC62701
    Where are the pics? I saw a pic of a white sultan I've been drooling over. I need the white flux.
    Competitive Cyclist has some great pictures of a white Flux and other Turners in the gallery section. http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...=PHOTO_GALLERY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I'm curious to know how the 9.9 broke and what broke on it. I thought by now those frames were pretty stout due to constant engineering of the original design. Also considering a fully built 9.9 is now almost $6,100 USD.

    I think just about every full suspension manufacturer around 2000 did some tests and they all found the same thing- their test riders all felt like they were going a bit slower around the course, while the timer observed they were going much faster. I think the bigger ones behind this finding were Giant and Specialized. So they went much faster, even at a 2-3 pound penalty.
    It's an 07 frame that had some stress cracks near the bottom bracket. It actually looks as if the bottom bracket shell was flexing inside of the frame. I wasn't sure if it could actually be the paint cracking as it might not flex as well as the resin that was in that area or if it was actually cracking. Either way I sent it back to Trek and they warrantied it and I'll be getting a brandy new 08 9.9 SSL frame coming my way shortly. I have a tendency to beat the hell out of bikes so carbon may not be the best for me. I feel kinda bad because that bike is an absolute rocket. I have never felt a bike so responsive and fun to ride as that hardtail. Part of me wants to keep it but I figure I'll only break it in a couple months again. So I figure I can probably sell that frame to fund the Flux. Seems like a good idea

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