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    Trek Roscoe 650b+

    Looks like Trek are joining the 650B+ hardtail party!

    All feature an Alpha Gold Aluminium frame, SUNringlé Duroc 40 SL rims, Schwalbe Rocket Ron tyres and boost hubs.

    Roscoe 7

    Trek Roscoe 650b+-trek-roscoe-7-2018-model-black_a1672.jpg

    Fork - RockShox Judy Silver TK, coil spring, 120mm
    Shifters - Shimano Deore M6000, 10-speed
    Rear derailleur - Shimano Deore M6000, Shadow Plus
    Crank - FSA Gamma Pro, 28T
    Bottom bracket - Sealed cartridge
    Cassette - Shimano HG50, 11-42, 10-speed

    Roscoe 8

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    Fork - RockShox Judy Silver TK, Solo Air spring, 120mm
    Shifters - SRAM NX, 11-speed
    Rear derailleur - SRAM NX, Roller Bearing Clutch
    Crank - SRAM NX, 28T Direct Mount X-Sync
    Bottom bracket - Sealed cartridge
    Cassette - SRAM PG-1130, 11-42, 11-speed

    Seatpost - Dropper post, Bontrager lever, 31.6 mm, internal routing

    Roscoe 9

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    Fork - RockShox Recon, Solo Air, 120mm
    Shifters - Shimano SLX M7000, 11-speed
    Rear derailleur - Shimano Deore XT M8000, Shadow Plus
    Crank - Race Face Aeffect, 28T Direct Mount Narrow-Wide
    Bottom bracket - Sealed cartridge
    Cassette - Shimano SLX M7000, 11-46, 11-speed
    Seatpost - Dropper post, Bontrager lever, 31.6 mm, internal routing

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    Looks like a budget-Stache with smaller wheels to me

    But might be a nice addition

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    They should call this bike "Spade". It would go well with the Farley.
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    Like the 9. Good spec actually a 1X11 with a low enough gear for an old guy to get up the mountain. Not crazy about the flo-green accents, would like to have seen a Reba fork but overall, I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    Like the 9. Good spec actually a 1X11 with a low enough gear for an old guy to get up the mountain. Not crazy about the flo-green accents, would like to have seen a Reba fork but overall, I like it.
    If you want something more substantial then the Norco Torrent is what you're looking for!

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    Any more info on the Roscoe? I'm in the market for a plus hardtail for a second bike and this exactly what I'm looking for. Any ideas on U.S. MSRP price? How about brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgdblue View Post
    Any more info on the Roscoe? I'm in the market for a plus hardtail for a second bike and this exactly what I'm looking for. Any ideas on U.S. MSRP price? How about brakes?
    There's an embargo on further information for another two weeks. Dealers will tell you some details but there's not much more than basic specs and a price.

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    I guess the 9er comes in at ~1400$ (also in €); available in EUR ~ mid august.
    I've compared a lot in the last days (27.5+, 29" trail HTs) - for the price of the 9er I can't find anything with similar specs. Especially the 11-46 and the dropper eliminate most competitors. Imho a good value for that price.
    If he geo etc fits and since I'll get a discount I guess I'll swap the brakes from the scratch (at least SLX) and buy another front wheel with 29" x 2.4".
    Btw. I'm pretty sure in the next years there will show up more bikes which have actually Plus on the rear (for traction) and something smaller on the front (better steering, less bouncing).

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    The orange colour on the Roscoe 8 looks amazing in the Trekworld video (Spain?). I'd love to swap out the frame for that!

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    Comparing this to a Norco Fluid 650b+ (67.5 degrees) I'd guess the head angle is 68 degrees which isn't that steep compared to a Scott Scale which is 66.5 degrees.

    I could be wrong of course but we'll find out in August when bikes start dropping and Trek's system gets another update.

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    The new Roscoes look pretty nice. I'm not sure if I'd want a new bike with that 141 quick release rear set-up, but I still ride an old 135 qr and it's been fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by go-pirates View Post
    The new Roscoes look pretty nice. I'm not sure if I'd want a new bike with that 141 quick release rear set-up, but I still ride an old 135 qr and it's been fine.
    Why not? It boosts the back end without adding cost to the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambocairns View Post
    Why not? It boosts the back end without adding cost to the bike.
    Mainly because I'm a heavier rider and I ride more aggressively than I used to, so I think I'd rather have a Boost thru-axle for peace of mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by go-pirates View Post
    Mainly because I'm a heavier rider and I ride more aggressively than I used to, so I think I'd rather have a Boost thru-axle for peace of mind.
    It's not really needed as the fixed stays provide the axle strength needed. Flexier arrangements such as fork legs and suspension stays are the reason for through axles.

    It also adds no real cost addition to the frame.

    At least that's what I read for the reason for the 141 QR standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambocairns View Post
    Comparing this to a Norco Fluid 650b+ (67.5 degrees) I'd guess the head angle is 68 degrees which isn't that steep compared to a Scott Scale which is 66.5 degrees....


    Yep, I also think it will be around 68°. You mean "isn't that
    slack compared to a Scott Scale?

    On sunday I sat on a Last FastForward- also a very nice bike.

    The orange of the 8er reminds me of the 2015 TR Patrol in safety orange - nice color, but imho not for every day


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    the edit function is so messed up....is this only on my side?

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    Yeah slack, sorry!

    Everything is in bold in your post.

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    Looking for a ride for my 10 year old...rosco 8 with air fork looks promising


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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    That Trek Roscoe 9 spec sheet reads just like my Scott Scale 720 plus, excluding the gearing choice,,but for $400 less :P

    The Trek, 28t up front and 11-46 out back,, wow that's low low and not very tall..

    Mines a 32t chain ring and the 11-42 out back.
    I never seem to need a lower gear and I often find myself spinning in tenth gear, have been known to hang In 11th with a tail wind on the level fire roads :P

    I almost got that 11-46 cassette until I saw IMHO the WAY too wide jump up to that 46 tooth sprocket,
    didn't like that..

    My 11-42 cassette goes from a 37 tooth cog to the 42 and It's a BIG jump.
    Can be a real revolution buster during a steep climb.
    The 11-46 I understand jumps from the same 37 tooth up to the 46 tooth...
    Spinning a 28T and that 46Tooth,,I doubt I could hold that cadence for long
    No thank you......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osco View Post
    That Trek Roscoe 9 spec sheet reads just like my Scott Scale 720 plus,,,but for $400 less :P
    Not as slack though, could be an issue?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Yeah true, I didn't know until I rode slack and all It took was a single figure eight in my front yard..
    But everybody Is different so 68 degree may be better for some people.

    We are Talking about Trek here, I own one of their bikes and It Is really dialed.
    So dialed I left It stock....

    Just sayin ~
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    I rode a friend's GT Zaskar which he'd fitted a 120mm fork to and it was such amazing fun! Didn't care that the seat angle was all wrong, I just loved smashing through stuff with confidence!

    I'm not a fast rider so a 650b+ hardtail should suit me fine.

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    It's a shame they didn't spec one with a Fox Rhythm 34 fork. I'd be willing to spend an extra $200 for that fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Interceptor View Post
    It's a shame they didn't spec one with a Fox Rhythm 34 fork. I'd be willing to spend an extra $200 for that fork.
    Or a Yari

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaxB21 View Post
    Looks like a budget-Stache with smaller wheels to me

    But might be a nice addition
    A solution to a problem that doesn't exist, unless it's for very short people....like too short for a 15.5 Stache.





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    Quote Originally Posted by richde View Post
    A solution to a problem that doesn't exist, unless it's for very short people....like too short for a 15.5 Stache.
    Yeah but 29+ wheels aren't very nimble are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambocairns View Post
    Yeah but 29+ wheels aren't very nimble are they?
    Ride a Stache.

    Wheelsize doesn't matter, geometry does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richde View Post
    Ride a Stache.

    Wheel size doesn't matter, geometry does.
    No chance of that because I'm in Australia and they won't have one in my size anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osco View Post
    That Trek Roscoe 9 spec sheet reads just like my Scott Scale 720 plus, excluding the gearing choice,,but for $400 less :P

    The Trek, 28t up front and 11-46 out back,, wow that's low low and not very tall..

    Mines a 32t chain ring and the 11-42 out back.
    I never seem to need a lower gear and I often find myself spinning in tenth gear, have been known to hang In 11th with a tail wind on the level fire roads :P

    I almost got that 11-46 cassette until I saw IMHO the WAY too wide jump up to that 46 tooth sprocket,
    didn't like that..

    My 11-42 cassette goes from a 37 tooth cog to the 42 and It's a BIG jump.
    Can be a real revolution buster during a steep climb.
    The 11-46 I understand jumps from the same 37 tooth up to the 46 tooth...
    Spinning a 28T and that 46Tooth,,I doubt I could hold that cadence for long
    No thank you......
    That gearing is perfect for me and the terrain that I ride. I currently ride my 22/36 (and wish for a tad lower) a lot in the mountains around Sun Valley. Could really care less about the top end - if 28/11 will get me to 18-20mph that will be fine with me.
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    the roscoe has been posted on the trek site, so if you want to see geo numbers.

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    They show the 7 & 8 but no 9? Is it just not up yet or no 9's in the US?
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    Straight from the Trek Rep, NO Roscoe 9 in the USA. Bummer - not interested in the lesser spec'd bikes. Too bad. Guess I'll see what Salsa does to the Timberjack.
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    Roscoe
    head angle: 68.3
    seat tube: 71

    Scott Scale Plus
    head angle: 66.5
    seat tube: 72.8

    Norco Fluid
    head angle: 67.5
    seat tube: 73.5 - 71.9 (XS - XL)
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    The orange roscoe 8 is $1249 us and the 9 is $1549

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pecjr23 View Post
    The orange roscoe 8 is $1249 us and the 9 is $1549
    Is the 9 being sold in the US? Because I talked with a Trek rep via live chat last night and was told the same thing that @centershot was told - that the 9 would not be sold in the US.

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    dang, Trek really missed the mark with this bike, only selling the 7 & 8 Roscoe in the US. This bike looks like fun, but a 30mm fork? No thanks. Maybe in 2019, they'll offer the 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Interceptor View Post
    dang, Trek really missed the mark with this bike, only selling the 7 & 8 Roscoe in the US. This bike looks like fun, but a 30mm fork? No thanks. Maybe in 2019, they'll offer the 9.
    I totally agree. I was really pscyhed when I saw the video introducing it. The spec on the 9 is the one I'd buy not the 8. I even reached out to Evans cycles inline to. See if they would ship me a 9 to the US, but they said trek doesn't allow them to ship trek bikes. Totally disappointed

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    yeah, Gary Fisher's promo is classic. I'd buy his version of the Roscoe!
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    68.2 HA and 71 STA- sounds like an odd mixture. I would be interested how they measure the STA.
    Nevrtheless, I guess I 'll skip the Roscoe for this year and wait or look for something else.

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    Roscoe is now on the Australian site. No Roscoe 9, seems to be a UK only bike? Weird.

    The Norco Fluid looks like a better buy unless you can score a 120mm boost fork with 32mm stanchions and a 51mm offset for $500.

    Then again geometry still favours the Norco.

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    So if a guy got the 8 and put on a new fork, what fork would you get? I'm thinking a Rockshox Reba would be about right, maybe go with 130mm travel. Should be at least a pound lighter than the stock fork. Need to talk with the LBS and see what they would do on a fork swap.

    BTW: That promo is awesome. Manuals across the creek are enough to sell about any bike!
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    I'd get a fork with 34mm stanchions, like a x-fusion McQueen or a fox rhythm. of course I'm a big boy, and hate having flexy forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    So if a guy got the 8 and put on a new fork, what fork would you get? I'm thinking a Rockshox Reba would be about right, maybe go with 130mm travel. Should be at least a pound lighter than the stock fork. Need to talk with the LBS and see what they would do on a fork swap.

    BTW: That promo is awesome. Manuals across the creek are enough to sell about any bike!
    Forks are hella expensive in Australia and the second hand scene is slim, especially for a 51mm offset.

    I reckon I'd look at the new Revelation or a Reba if that wasn't available.

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    Just have to wait for the reviews but I guarantee they'll mention the flexiness of the Judy (30mm stanchions), especially as it's a trail bike.

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    The Roscoe looks like a nice bike (as more of a entry level Stache), but I think I'm still going to wait to the 2018 Stache 5, since there is none of the 2017 model (in my size) in my area. Plus I'm sure Trek will add a dropper seat post with the 2018 model, since the Roscoe has it. I also like the color of the Roscoe 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekWarMachine View Post
    The Roscoe looks like a nice bike (as more of a entry level Stache), but I think I'm still going to wait to the 2018 Stache 5, since there is none of the 20117 model (in my size) in my area. Plus I'm sure Trek will add a dropper seat post with the 2018 model, since the Roscoe has it. I also like the color of the Roscoe 8.
    You should get to your local retailer and get one on order.

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    LBS guy came from the Salsa / something else bikes camp said that he rode the crap out of a boutique steel plus bike - after he was done, looked at the fork and was surprised to see that it was a Judy. Maybe these will be better than anticipated. Wish they would get a Roscoe in so I can try it myself.
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    That's encouraging..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekWarMachine View Post
    The Roscoe looks like a nice bike (as more of a entry level Stache), but I think I'm still going to wait to the 2018 Stache 5, since there is none of the 20117 model (in my size) in my area. Plus I'm sure Trek will add a dropper seat post with the 2018 model, since the Roscoe has it. I also like the color of the Roscoe 8.
    Picked up my 2018 Stache 5 yesterday. Looks really nice. It has a dropper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewe6 View Post
    Picked up my 2018 Stache 5 yesterday. Looks really nice. It has a dropper.
    Pic? What color?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekWarMachine View Post
    Pic? What color?...
    It's matte gunmetal

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    Sorry, terrible pics...camera wouldn't focus Trek Roscoe 650b+-tr.jpgTrek Roscoe 650b+-tr2.jpg

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    Very Nice!

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    I may pull the trigger on a Roscoe 8 tomorrow. I ride a 17.5 Farley and the 17.5 Roscoe fit nice, just seems like a much, much smaller bike. The frame reach, standover, and eff top tube are similar, so should work. Didn't ride the 18.5 to compare. Anyone have any insight on sizing? Thanks.

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    On a bike like this I'd rather it be a tad small than a tad too big. With the recent stretch of top tubes and short stems it's difficult to go with your 'standard' size. Always good to ride both and see what works best for you.
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    I agree with going small if need be. This bike in particular will only be used to shred. No rail trail distance riding on the Roscoe. I may not have the luxury of test riding the next size up. I do have some longer stems, but I don't think it's a reach thing at all. The standover is really short on these bikes. Ironically, the standover on the next size up is lower, as per Trek's website. It just looks like a tiny bike. I just received a message back from Trek saying to stick with the same size as my Farley. If anything, it may be a tad small, but not too small, which like centershot said, go small if you have to choose. I'm open to all opinions or stories from experience. Thanks.

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    I asked Rockshox what the weight of the Judy Silver is but they said they didn't know and they will update the website as soon as they do...

    I replied with "No worries, hopefully someone can find a set of weighing scales, a Judy fork and 10 minutes to weigh them."

    I wish they'd create a standard flex test as a 30mm stanchion boosted fork (Judy) could be stiffer than a 32mm non-boosted fork (Recon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambocairns View Post
    I asked Rockshox what the weight of the Judy Silver is but they said they didn't know and they will update the website as soon as they do...

    I replied with "No worries, hopefully someone can find a set of weighing scales, a Judy fork and 10 minutes to weigh them."

    I wish they'd create a standard flex test as a 30mm stanchion boosted fork (Judy) could be stiffer than a 32mm non-boosted fork (Recon).
    That's unfortunate that the maker of the fork doesn't know how much it weighs? Hopefully it's not terrible, I was hoping to upgrade to lighter stem and bars before Fork. My pickup should be Friday according to LBS, will be putting it(bike) on the scale on my way out the door and reply back if it hasn't been posted.

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    I really wouldn't be as concerned about the weight of the fork as much as its flexy skinny legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Interceptor View Post
    I really wouldn't be as concerned about the weight of the fork as much as its flexy skinny legs.
    It might be pretty good though! Depends what you're doing on the bike.

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    Not sure on the Judy, but I know that I'd pay $300 more for the same bike with a Reba. A bike like the Roscoe needs a light front end. Wheelies and Manuals are a big part of the fun that a bike like this is (should be) designed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    Not sure on the Judy, but I know that I'd pay $300 more for the same bike with a Reba. A bike like the Roscoe needs a light front end. Wheelies and Manuals are a big part of the fun that a bike like this is (should be) designed for.
    Yeah I'll run it for a little while and we'll see how it feels, the Gary Fisher video talks about the geo being for long rides but with a more slack front end for climbing and DH. I'm really curious as to how the large frame will feel, the medium was just a little too small. Maybe after I get it, put a few good rides it, I'll pull the fork and weight it for everyone. Regardless lightweight stem, bars, and fork will be the first upgrades beyond mag flats and tubeless.

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    Picked up my large framed Roscoe 8, weighed her on my way out.. little hefty considering I've gone tubeless and added 376g flats she was hovering around 31.10#... new fork, stem, and bars will drop that considerably at a later date. Took her home and pulled all the reflectors off, won't be that much of a difference though. Lowered the tire pressure to 15-front and 16ish-back, hopped on and took her down to some trails close to the house. 11-42 shifts extremely well, I've not rode for 2 years but believe it won't take long to get used to the 11-42 and could save weight if I stay in 42 range instead of 46 range when upgrading later.
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    The geo feels nice, comfortable during tight turns but haven't got to test it downhill yet, trails today are more technical rocky riding with steady climbs and descents not too fast and I'm also not very familiar with them and had a 45 min time limit due... I wish I had an entire day! Bike felt comfortable on slick rocky muddy terrain, much more stable than my old 29x2.2s, the tubeless setup is definitely easier rolling than the medium frame I demo'd at the LBS first with tubes.
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    Judy fork it to be determined, it seemed fine today but think I can get it dialed in more. As my first dropper post I can definitely see where I can take advantage of it. Brakes are TBD, will have more time to ride this weekend and I can't wait.
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    ^^^ Thanks for the initial review, keep the updates coming. I started riding trails this year and purchased a Trek Marlin 5 (29er) this past spring to get my feet wet (and love riding the trails - what a rush!). Since I have been riding for the past six month and reading articles on this site, I have found out what my bike and I can and cannot do.

    I would like to upgrade in the next 6 months to either a 2018 Trek Roscoe 8 or a 2018 Trek Stache 5. The retail price difference is $320, which is not a big deal to me. I'm assuming it's worth it to spend the extra money to get the Stache 5, for the better fork and bigger wheels (29 vs 27.5, since I used to riding on 29ers). I also think it would be overkill to upgrade to a Trek Fuel EX 5 29?

    Thoughts? Opinions? Advice?...Thanks!

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    Good to hear someone actually has one and is riding it. Will be watching for more updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekWarMachine View Post
    ^^^ Thanks for the initial review, keep the updates coming. I started riding trails this year and purchased a Trek Marlin 5 (29er) this past spring to get my feet wet (and love riding the trails - what a rush!). Since I have been riding for the past six month and reading articles on this site, I have found out what my bike and I can and cannot do.

    I would like to upgrade in the next 6 months to either a 2018 Trek Roscoe 8 or a 2018 Trek Stache 5. The retail price difference is $320, which is not a big deal to me. I'm assuming it's worth it to spend the extra money to get the Stache 5, for the better fork and bigger wheels (29 vs 27.5, since I used to riding on 29ers). I also think it would be overkill to upgrade to a Trek Fuel EX 5 29?

    Thoughts? Opinions? Advice?...Thanks!
    I looked closely at the Stache 5, I have been riding 29ers for 5 years roughly so I wanted to go with the 27.5 mid fats, first impressions are they roll just as well as my 29ers did but feel more responsive in tight turning. Won't have a solid opinion until I ride some more. Personally I was able to get the Roscoe 8 for 1199, so $60 off... becoming a no-brainer for me. I'll start upgrading parts slowly of the next year, my goal is to get it to 29lbs or less if possible. I think if you go with either, you'll be happy. Stache has great components and the roscoe 8 is a nice base that should turn in to a beast later

    Upgrading to FS is all about preference, personally I sold a FS and picked up the 8!

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    Just picked up a Roscoe 8 tonight. Taking it out tomorrow. I was leery on the fork, but all of the other specs really caught my eye. For my uses, this bike seems great. Will let you know how it goes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider of Rohan View Post
    Just picked up a Roscoe 8 tonight. Taking it out tomorrow. I was leery on the fork, but all of the other specs really caught my eye. For my uses, this bike seems great. Will let you know how it goes!
    I'm more interested in knowing what the trails at Rohan are like!

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    I'm more interested in knowing what the trails at Rohan are like!

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    I'm in north eastern Wisconsin, Appleton, Green Bay areas. Lots of flowy single track with your average rock gardens, rooty sections and small berms depending on trail. The place I'll ride tomorrow is quite sandy, Sunday I'll take it to a ski hill and really test it.. I discovered an "adjustable rebound" on the bottom right lower. It has a turtle and a rabbit with 5 click settings. Makes a snappy difference, very curious about this and will certainly be one of the things I focus on with the fork. I do have to say that Bontragers entry dropper isn't bad for an entry. I've ridden a Reverb and thought it was great, but this thing is nice and does what it needs to. +1 for me! I, like everyone else am confused as to why the front is Thru axel and rear is QR..... more tomorrow evening!

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    Post first day thoughts...
    So yes I'm new to the forum, but I've used it for years, never felt the need to comment, just learn. Now that I've got something so new I thought I could contribute I hit 14 miles of single track today and really messed around with a lot on this bike.

    First, I started the ride at 20psi in each. I really wanted to feel how the Judy fork performed. I'm 140lbs, had 75psi in it- LBS set that up. Like I said before, I found an adjustable dial on the bottom right of the fork. It has 5 click settings and goes from turtle to rabbit. I started at turtle. This made the fork feel more progressive but rebound slow. Turn it to rabbit and I flew through travel but the rebound was snappy. To my novice fork experience, it seemed as if it were acting as a movable token on the inside. Anyways, I found that 1 click below rabbit was best for the terrain, if not, full hare. 120mm was a good call by Trek and gave me more confidence. Is this a Yari, Lyric, or even a Reba? No. is it a bad fork? No! But the lack of adjustability and low speed rebound control are missed.

    Fork and stem- not a bad choice at all. 50 mm stem makes this thing respond like no other. 750mm bars are quite nice, but a bit less backsweep is my preference for climbing. Also, do yourself a favor and buy new grips with the bike. The stock lock on Bontreggs were about as useless as the plastic wellgo pedals.

    Dropper- THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART OF THE BIKE it's not a Reverb nor does it have pretty kashima coating, but damn this thing made my life better. Good entry dropper.

    Drivetrain- The NX performed very well, I was not disappointed. I did want GX on the bike I bought, but now that it isn't side by side with GX like when I was demo-ing, I don't miss it. Good call, Trek.

    Wheels and tires- At first, I didn't think these Rocket Rons would float my boat. I was wrong. They grip like a mofo and roll nicely. I had a new level of confidence with them. Wheel set is solid, performing and physically. They're heavy but really supported me pushing through corners. No creaking or flexing, that is until I goofed and landed a bit off. Let's just say I called my LBS for a dual wheel true.....pissed me right off. Again, my fault most likely. I did forget to mention, I settled in riding front at 16 psi rear 18. Good firmness but forgiving in the hard packed/sandy trails. Side note, when on the 42 tooth, there's about a 1/2" clearance to the knobs without digging out a ruler.. I don't know how much more aggressive of a tire you can put on here.

    Brakes- okay, THIS is where I'd spend an extra $50-$75 beyond retail. The 180mm/160mm rotors are great! But they don't have the brakes to stop them! Shimano m315's flat out suck. I had DB7's on my last bike and would take them back in a heartbeat....

    Finally the frame- the "new" alpha gold aluminum frame has great geometry. I felt super comfortable all day, (usually suffer from lower back pain). It sits very comfortably and has an enduro feel. I found a big steep cross country ski hill, at least 25-35 degree slope, slammed the dropper, put er in high gear, leaned back, and let er rip. Oh. My. Lanta. Was that ever fun. This thing can handle its paces. It almost felt like a bmx bike. This let me test the 42 tooth as well and I like the range of cassette. The one downfall to the short stem, slacker headtube, short chain stays, was I had to get out of my seat a lot to climb or my front wheel was up. Going back to the fork, weight isn't something you should worry about. The frame however, it's a heavy rig. Bunny hops or preloading kickers really took effort. The bike feels heavy off the ground. But on the dirt my god is it FAST. I was throwing it every which way and it responded better than I could have wanted.

    To wrap it up, Pros: frame geo, drivetrain/groupset, rims/wheels, DROPPER, handlebar/stem, and honestly, the fork gets a 8/10 based on value and performance but I wouldn't doubt it if I replace it within a year or two-because I want to, not need to.

    Cons: Brakes, Brakes, BRAKES. Lack of fork adjustment, not very good low speed compression, not the best climbing geo even though the traction is great.

    I bought this bike because I wanted something to take me to the next level. I was looking at going full fat, but glad I didn't. This thing opens so many doors and I don't see much it cannot do for $1200. I spent a day on a Salsa Woodsmoke and it was the most fun I've ever had with my pants on. This wasn't far from. It accelerates great, dives into corners hard, and goes where you point it. Is it a Stache? No, it wasn't intended to be. The specs aren't quite there either. But if you want that same plus sized effect at a budget price, buy this thing. I'm a teacher and have student loans. You can fill in those financial lines, this bike is perfect for me. I cannot say enough, you get a LOT of bike here for 12 bills and some change. You won't regret it. I will be shreddin on this guy for a few years for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider of Rohan View Post
    Post first day thoughts...
    So yes I'm new to the forum, but I've used it for years, never felt the need to comment, just learn. Now that I've got something so new I thought I could contribute I hit 14 miles of single track today and really messed around with a lot on this bike.

    First, I started the ride at 20psi in each. I really wanted to feel how the Judy fork performed. I'm 140lbs, had 75psi in it- LBS set that up. Like I said before, I found an adjustable dial on the bottom right of the fork. It has 5 click settings and goes from turtle to rabbit. I started at turtle. This made the fork feel more progressive but rebound slow. Turn it to rabbit and I flew through travel but the rebound was snappy. To my novice fork experience, it seemed as if it were acting as a movable token on the inside. Anyways, I found that 1 click below rabbit was best for the terrain, if not, full hare. 120mm was a good call by Trek and gave me more confidence. Is this a Yari, Lyric, or even a Reba? No. is it a bad fork? No! But the lack of adjustability and low speed rebound control are missed.

    Fork and stem- not a bad choice at all. 50 mm stem makes this thing respond like no other. 750mm bars are quite nice, but a bit less backsweep is my preference for climbing. Also, do yourself a favor and buy new grips with the bike. The stock lock on Bontreggs were about as useless as the plastic wellgo pedals.

    Dropper- THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART OF THE BIKE it's not a Reverb nor does it have pretty kashima coating, but damn this thing made my life better. Good entry dropper.

    Drivetrain- The NX performed very well, I was not disappointed. I did want GX on the bike I bought, but now that it isn't side by side with GX like when I was demo-ing, I don't miss it. Good call, Trek.

    Wheels and tires- At first, I didn't think these Rocket Rons would float my boat. I was wrong. They grip like a mofo and roll nicely. I had a new level of confidence with them. Wheel set is solid, performing and physically. They're heavy but really supported me pushing through corners. No creaking or flexing, that is until I goofed and landed a bit off. Let's just say I called my LBS for a dual wheel true.....pissed me right off. Again, my fault most likely. I did forget to mention, I settled in riding front at 16 psi rear 18. Good firmness but forgiving in the hard packed/sandy trails. Side note, when on the 42 tooth, there's about a 1/2" clearance to the knobs without digging out a ruler.. I don't know how much more aggressive of a tire you can put on here.

    Brakes- okay, THIS is where I'd spend an extra $50-$75 beyond retail. The 180mm/160mm rotors are great! But they don't have the brakes to stop them! Shimano m315's flat out suck. I had DB7's on my last bike and would take them back in a heartbeat....

    Finally the frame- the "new" alpha gold aluminum frame has great geometry. I felt super comfortable all day, (usually suffer from lower back pain). It sits very comfortably and has an enduro feel. I found a big steep cross country ski hill, at least 25-35 degree slope, slammed the dropper, put er in high gear, leaned back, and let er rip. Oh. My. Lanta. Was that ever fun. This thing can handle its paces. It almost felt like a bmx bike. This let me test the 42 tooth as well and I like the range of cassette. The one downfall to the short stem, slacker headtube, short chain stays, was I had to get out of my seat a lot to climb or my front wheel was up. Going back to the fork, weight isn't something you should worry about. The frame however, it's a heavy rig. Bunny hops or preloading kickers really took effort. The bike feels heavy off the ground. But on the dirt my god is it FAST. I was throwing it every which way and it responded better than I could have wanted.

    To wrap it up, Pros: frame geo, drivetrain/groupset, rims/wheels, DROPPER, handlebar/stem, and honestly, the fork gets a 8/10 based on value and performance but I wouldn't doubt it if I replace it within a year or two-because I want to, not need to.

    Cons: Brakes, Brakes, BRAKES. Lack of fork adjustment, not very good low speed compression, not the best climbing geo even though the traction is great.

    I bought this bike because I wanted something to take me to the next level. I was looking at going full fat, but glad I didn't. This thing opens so many doors and I don't see much it cannot do for $1200. I spent a day on a Salsa Woodsmoke and it was the most fun I've ever had with my pants on. This wasn't far from. It accelerates great, dives into corners hard, and goes where you point it. Is it a Stache? No, it wasn't intended to be. The specs aren't quite there either. But if you want that same plus sized effect at a budget price, buy this thing. I'm a teacher and have student loans. You can fill in those financial lines, this bike is perfect for me. I cannot say enough, you get a LOT of bike here for 12 bills and some change. You won't regret it. I will be shreddin on this guy for a few years for sure.
    Great review, I love my roscoe 8 as well, spent some more time on her today, absolutely fantastic bike, so comfortable and really brings tonnes of confidence to the table!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls2ndblessing View Post
    Great review, I love my roscoe 8 as well, spent some more time on her today, absolutely fantastic bike, so comfortable and really brings tonnes of confidence to the table!

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    Thanks and I agree, Paul! I was riding with more confidence than I've ever had. The comfort is so great and I think will really allow me to ride for 2-3 hours rather than 1.5-2.

    I didn't mention the stock seat above, with my padded shorts, I never once thought about my tail end. 25 miles on my roadie and I'm sore, this thing is really quite wonderful for stock. Hope to see others thoughts on their Roscoes as well!

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    kinda crappy trek refuses to let people run 3.0 tires on the plus bikes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishywishy View Post
    kinda crappy trek refuses to let people run 3.0 tires on the plus bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishywishy View Post
    kinda crappy trek refuses to let people run 3.0 tires on the plus bikes...
    I totally agree if you're right. But it looks like there is a lot of room for wider tire. Where did you hear/see this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philoanna View Post
    I totally agree if you're right. But it looks like there is a lot of room for wider tire. Where did you hear/see this?
    There is no fitting a 3" tire on the Roscoe. Hell, you won't even fit a 2.81 on there. I put it on the 42 tooth and the chain cross is so steep that there is 1/8" between the knobs and the chain, 1/8 OF AN AN INCH?! I don't even know if I can put a set of Highrollers or Minions on this thing without it rubbing... I think it'd be fun to run 3" Minions or HRs in the fall. There IS however plenty of room with the spacing, its just the chain here...

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    Great review R of R.

    I get the feel that Trek dabbled instead of fully committing to the 27.5 Plus Hardtails. They are close with the 8 but fall a little short for those wanting a little more than the 'beginner' bike level that it's spec'd at. I hate to buy a new bike and immediately start spending money on upgrades. I would much rather get the bike that I want to begin with.

    My local dealer also carries Salsa, so I am in wait mode until the Salsa release. Evidently Salsa learned from last year's near immediate sellout and now have 3 levels of the Timberjacks with the more expensive model being ~$1700. Hopefully that bike will have what the Roscoe is missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    Great review R of R.

    I get the feel that Trek dabbled instead of fully committing to the 27.5 Plus Hardtails. They are close with the 8 but fall a little short for those wanting a little more than the 'beginner' bike level that it's spec'd at. I hate to buy a new bike and immediately start spending money on upgrades. I would much rather get the bike that I want to begin with.

    My local dealer also carries Salsa, so I am in wait mode until the Salsa release. Evidently Salsa learned from last year's near immediate sellout and now have 3 levels of the Timberjacks with the more expensive model being ~$1700. Hopefully that bike will have what the Roscoe is missing.
    I believe the only mistake Trek made was not bringing the 9 to the USA. However I disagree that the Roscoe 8 feels "dabbled". I don't know of many, 27.5+ bikes for $1260 that are spec'd out as well or better. My only gripe with the bike is the weight but even that is a small gripe considering I only paid $1199 for mine OTD, I do think the 9 would have turned more people on to the bike though

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    I'd like to add that it's not nor is it advertised as an all-mountain bike, it's an adventure bike with a mountain feel, even in the Gary F video they mention it as well as Trek putting rack mounts all over it should be the tell for that

    Can't stop talking about how comfortable the bike is, that's probably one of my favorite features, it just feels good!

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    I think it's a great value, but I think there are a lot of folks out there that are looking for just a bit more. The 9 would be great but I'd even pay a little extra over that for a Reba fork. That would shake a couple pounds off right there. I just don't like the idea of adding $500+ to the price of the bike to get the fork is should have had to begin with. I fully understand the price points but I will very likely end up with something other than Trek to get the spec (fork mainly) that I want.
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    Correct, if you want an all mountain hard tail then you'll want the Norco Torrent.

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    Just head back from SRAM regarding some more information on the Judy forks, thought I could share it with you guys. Looks like a decent fork will drop 1-2lbs or so from the Roscoe.
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    Don't have any Norco Dealers around here, mainly Giant, Spec, Trek - I much prefer to buy from the Trek dealer who also has Salsa. Bummer because the Norco looks great (same with Kona).

    How do you think a Reba (for instance) that is 1 1/2# lighter (~$500) would make the Rosco feel? Getting that much weight off the front should really liven that bike up.
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    I got mine a week ago. I think that I too was expecting this bike to be a little more than it is. That is not to say that I don't like it. It's comfortable and looks really nice. I ride my Farley a lot on my local trails, and I guess that I should have never expected the Roscoe to hook up like the Farley. If I was coming off of a lot of trail riding on my El Mariachi, I may have been more impressed. However, I can say that after swapping out the super wide bars and putting a little longer stem on it, it is a very comfortable bike. I got the bike for $1139, so for the price point, I can't really complain about the Roscoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls2ndblessing View Post
    Just head back from SRAM regarding some more information on the Judy forks, thought I could share it with you guys. Looks like a decent fork will drop 1-2lbs or so from the Roscoe.
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    Thank you for posting that. As I suspected, they're engineering it for stiffness over weight so maybe the 30mm stanchions will be fine. That said I'd prefer the new Revelation -

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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    How do you think a Reba (for instance) that is 1 1/2# lighter (~$500) would make the Rosco feel? Getting that much weight off the front should really liven that bike up.
    I think the reba rl 27.5+ shaving 1.4#s off would make a pretty bid difference but like Riders of Rohan said, when your on the dirt it feels light, it's when you're preloading and jumping when you notice it... so I think it'd be safe to say a lighter fork would definitely help in those areas. I'm thinking I'm going lighter cassette, crank, and bars first then a lighter fork next year. I think I'm hoked on the bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by philoanna View Post
    I got mine a week ago. I think that I too was expecting this bike to be a little more than it is. That is not to say that I don't like it. It's comfortable and looks really nice. I ride my Farley a lot on my local trails, and I guess that I should have never expected the Roscoe to hook up like the Farley. If I was coming off of a lot of trail riding on my El Mariachi, I may have been more impressed. However, I can say that after swapping out the super wide bars and putting a little longer stem on it, it is a very comfortable bike. I got the bike for $1139, so for the price point, I can't really complain about the Roscoe.
    That's unfortunate to hear, I came from a 2013 Specialized Camber Comp FS and the Roscoe check marked everything I missed about having a hard tail as well as the confidence and plushness, albeit a little less, my FS offered. I took the Farley around the LBS and it is a fantastic bike but just more than I wanted to spend, it was light, fat, and responsive. Maybe the Roscoe will grow on you a bit more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls2ndblessing View Post
    I think the reba rl 27.5+ shaving 1.4#s off would make a pretty bid difference but like Riders of Rohan said, when your on the dirt it feels light, it's when you're preloading and jumping when you notice it... so I think it'd be safe to say a lighter fork would definitely help in those areas. I'm thinking I'm going lighter cassette, crank, and bars first then a lighter fork next year. I think I'm hoked on the bike.



    That's unfortunate to hear, I came from a 2013 Specialized Camber Comp FS and the Roscoe check marked everything I missed about having a hard tail as well as the confidence and plushness, albeit a little less, my FS offered. I took the Farley around the LBS and it is a fantastic bike but just more than I wanted to spend, it was light, fat, and responsive. Maybe the Roscoe will grow on you a bit more!
    Thanks for the kind words, all. See, I'm not a TOTAL grom....

    Paul, what did you think about the brakes on this thing? I felt like they were either on or off. I couldnt feel the rotors in my finger like I'd like. I mean, I think they perform better than Mech discs, but still.

    As for fork weight, I really do think that dropping 1.5 lbs on a new one would help this a lot in many ways. I also think tubeless would make it dope. I pulled apart the front wheel last night, Rocket Rons ~ 2.0 lbs, Duroc 40 rims w hub~2.8 lbs. So we are close to a pound on tube, lets call it 3/4 for my shitty scale. So there may go 1-1.5 lbs if youre lucky with tubeless. With both of these, we are looking at a sub 30 maybe even 28# bike. Trek claims 30.7#for a M, which I have.

    Great catch, Paul, on the "How light it feels on the ground" I will firmly stand behind this thought. I think going clipless will help it feel better getting off the ground. (I run carbon clipless on my roadie, bout time I do for trails).

    Like I said, I was going for a really nice, fun, budget/quality bike as a teacher. Here it is. The Salsa Timberjack has the better fork and GX but no dropper. Pick which entrees you want now and what desserts later.

    Yes, I know lot of people (including myself) want to spend money and ride what they got and not stick in money because they need to. I really do think half of the fun of this hobby is spending a few Washingtons to make it your own. First order of business: Tubeless (Ive got like a gallon of Stans sitting around, I just suck at setting this shit up), Brakes(looking to find new take-offs on Pinkbike), and a Diety Bar. I want something with less backsweep. Jensons is shipping my new GE1 grips, and a few other toys as we speak. Im going Orange and Blue to make it my college colors. Ill let you know how that goes later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider of Rohan View Post
    Thanks for the kind words, all. See, I'm not a TOTAL grom....

    Paul, what did you think about the brakes on this thing? I felt like they were either on or off. I couldnt feel the rotors in my finger like I'd like. I mean, I think they perform better than Mech discs, but still.

    As for fork weight, I really do think that dropping 1.5 lbs on a new one would help this a lot in many ways. I also think tubeless would make it dope. I pulled apart the front wheel last night, Rocket Rons ~ 2.0 lbs, Duroc 40 rims w hub~2.8 lbs. So we are close to a pound on tube, lets call it 3/4 for my shitty scale. So there may go 1-1.5 lbs if youre lucky with tubeless. With both of these, we are looking at a sub 30 maybe even 28# bike. Trek claims 30.7#for a M, which I have.

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    Hey RoR,

    I felt the brakes were adequate I felt like I could control them pretty well but I will say they don't provide much feedback and will most likely try new pads and possible try to adjust a few things, my rear seems to be on/off like you said but my front seems to have a bit more action... hopefully you know what I mean.

    Also I'm already running tubeless, this made MASSIVE difference in the roll... first thing I did to the bike, I rode the medium frame at my LBS with tubes before I purchased my large, it was night/day difference IMO.

    The salsa was honestly my first choice but the closest dealer is 5 hours away so I decided on the Trek and to be honest I think I made the right choice for myself, the geo on the trek fits my riding style and lower back VERY well.

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    How tall are you guys and what size did you go with? I'm 5'-10.5" right smack in the middle of medium and large for most manufactures. I typically go a little small rather than large because it's usually more fun. Leaning 18.5 - thoughts? Roscoe for the local shop is on backorder so I have time to over anal-yze this some more........
    I wanna ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    How tall are you guys and what size did you go with? I'm 5'-10.5" right smack in the middle of medium and large for most manufactures. I typically go a little small rather than large because it's usually more fun. Leaning 18.5 - thoughts? Roscoe for the local shop is on backorder so I have time to over anal-yze this some more........
    I'm actually 5'10.5" with a 32.5" inseam and 165lbs. I demo'd the medium around the parking lot and store but it felt pretty cramped. The 18.5/Large felt perfect for me, after riding for a few hours this weekend it felt good, never ran in to a space issue or felt stretched - really just felt great. I feel like they run a tad small regardless, my last two bikes (cannondale trail and Specialized camber comp) were both larges the cannondale felt great the specialized felt too big (there large is a 19") so the Trek 18.5 is perfect for me.. but my riding style is would be more described as trail meets flow and not super aggressive so I wanted longer rides with comfort.

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    I ride medium Salsas and Surlys for the most part, and a 17.5 Farley. I am about 5'9.5".
    I rode the 17.5 Roscoe and it was small for me, but not aggressively small. I could have made it work.. The 18.5, which I bought, fits well. The dealer said that there is a big jump from 18.5 to next size up. The Roscoe is actually offered in two medium sizes, 17.5 and 18.5. It is kinda confusing for some reason. I would say the 19.5 is the large, not the 18.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philoanna View Post
    I ride medium Salsas and Surlys for the most part, and a 17.5 Farley. I am about 5'9.5".
    I rode the 17.5 Roscoe and it was small for me, but not aggressively small. I could have made it work.. The 18.5, which I bought, fits well. The dealer said that there is a big jump from 18.5 to next size up. The Roscoe is actually offered in two medium sizes, 17.5 and 18.5. It is kinda confusing for some reason. I would say the 19.5 is the large, not the 18.5.
    Yeah I'd agree, even though the post says "Lg" I'd put it in the md/lg category. Great description philoanna!

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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    How tall are you guys and what size did you go with? I'm 5'-10.5" right smack in the middle of medium and large for most manufactures. I typically go a little small rather than large because it's usually more fun. Leaning 18.5 - thoughts? Roscoe for the local shop is on backorder so I have time to over anal-yze this some more........
    My LBS didn't have a large at first either, they put me on the 2017 stache 7 in a large as the sizing is relatively close, albeit more slack, so if you feel decent on the stache the Rosoce will feel similar but a tiny bit less aggressive. Just food for analytical thought

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    Video review of the Roscoe 7:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk-7w8b_0-M

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    Quote Originally Posted by centershot View Post
    How tall are you guys and what size did you go with? I'm 5'-10.5" right smack in the middle of medium and large for most manufactures. I typically go a little small rather than large because it's usually more fun. Leaning 18.5 - thoughts? Roscoe for the local shop is on backorder so I have time to over anal-yze this some more........
    I am 5'8" 140 Lbs and I grabbed a 17.5" frame. My wingspan is 71" and I feel like that contributes. Inseam? Idk.. but I wear 29/31 pants! I have the seat slammed back only because it is my style and I wanted the BB forward on me when I sit rather than under further for flowy trails. I rode a 17.5 GT 650b prior and this feels a bit more compact, but the cockpit is closer to the headtube stock. I really dont think that putting a 60mm stem instead of the 50 would hurt, may actually help climbing. Just a thought.

    So yes, I agree with Paul, they may feel like they run a bit small but it has all to do with nimbleness, the shorter chainstay may contribute as well.

    If you can, ride both of course. You may like the compactness of 17.5 but 18.5 osunds like it may fit you much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider of Rohan View Post
    ...Brakes(looking to find new take-offs on Pinkbike), and a Diety Bar. I want something with less backsweep. Jensons is shipping my new GE1 grips, and a few other toys as we speak. Im going Orange and Blue to make it my college colors. Ill let you know how that goes later
    Okay so put in another 1.5 hours last night, brakes do seem a bit anemic, I think I'll be swapping them sooner than later. My Ergon GE1's should be in tomorrow (white/grey), I'm going with Roarange/White/Black for my colors. I have a fizik arione vs that I'm going to weigh against the stock evoke 1.5 saddle and see which is lighter and just go with that one.

    I'm undecided right now about whether I want to go clipless with this bike... I ride both but for some reason I feel like flats fit this bike BUT I also think being clipped in will allow me to handle preloading for rollers and jumps, decisions decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls2ndblessing View Post
    Okay so put in another 1.5 hours last night, brakes do seem a bit anemic, I think I'll be swapping them sooner than later. My Ergon GE1's should be in tomorrow (white/grey), I'm going with Roarange/White/Black for my colors. I have a fizik arione vs that I'm going to weigh against the stock evoke 1.5 saddle and see which is lighter and just go with that one.

    I'm undecided right now about whether I want to go clipless with this bike... I ride both but for some reason I feel like flats fit this bike BUT I also think being clipped in will allow me to handle preloading for rollers and jumps, decisions decisions.
    Paul, you are reading my thoughts....I am in the same boat. GE1's are coming on Friday (blue). Ill stick with the stock saddle, really like it! As I was riding, my feet were kind of bouncing all over the place on flats and I thought about going clipless next season (WI weather takes a good 5 months out for me) for the same reasons you said, preloading and such. But the flats do make it reeaallly fun most of the time....

    I may end up getting those brand new Stamp 3's for $100. Just released yesterday or the day before! I like the blue.... Ill sleep on that choice and wait till next year.

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    Just ordered my wife a WSD Roscoe 8 (13.5 shes tiny) plans to slap some XT'S on for binders, and a boost Reba in 120, should be about all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Don't Surf View Post
    Just ordered my wife a WSD Roscoe 8 (13.5 shes tiny) plans to slap some XT'S on for binders, and a boost Reba in 120, should be about all!
    That's fantastic! I'd really like to know your thoughts on the bike before and after the Reba if you wouldn't mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Don't Surf View Post
    Just ordered my wife a WSD Roscoe 8 (13.5 shes tiny) plans to slap some XT'S on for binders, and a boost Reba in 120, should be about all!
    Bam - perfect. Any idea what the fork and brake conversion will cost?
    I wanna ride!

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    About $550 over the bike price, I've changed the fork to the Manitou Machete Boost 27.5 + (I have a Magnum Comp and Magnum Pro already) and will have some color matched stickers made for it
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